Can you explain this, Coldcoiner?  https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37983/where-i-am-today/8 Archive: https://archive.is/cmPASSo, maintaining a $20 floor with ~15 Million Paycoins is clearly impossible with these "Prime Nodes" cranking out insane amounts of coins, but maintaining a $1 floor with ~5 Billion TNT coins with "Prime Nodes" cranking out 3.5x these insane amounts is going to like totally 100% work. You are saying the Paycoin model will not work over on Hashtalk, and here you are launching a clone of Paycoin with the same exact model and claiming that it will work. WTF? Which is it? Explain why you are sure the Paycoin model will not work, but your even more ridiculous clone of Paycoin WILL work. Please explain this. |
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What is the exact method you plan to use to determine the amount of coins staked on escrowed coins? Also, please describe the legal justification for imposing this arbitrary stake penalty. Exactly what gives you the legal authority to deny someone their property? Please phrase the answer in actual legal terms, because you are describing a legal matter when you are talking about denying someone their rightly acquired coins. Edit to add: Also, can you explain this? https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37983/where-i-am-today/8 Archive: https://archive.is/cmPASSo, maintaining a $20 floor with ~15 Million Paycoins is clearly impossible with these "Prime Nodes" cranking out insane amounts of coins, but maintaining a $1 floor with ~5 Billion TNT coins with "Prime Nodes" cranking out 3.5x these insane amounts is going to like totally 100% work. You are saying the Paycoin model will not work over on Hashtalk, and here you are launching a clone of Paycoin with the same exact model and claiming that it will work. WTF? Which is it? |
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Coldcoiner seems to have Paycoin all figgered out: https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37983/where-i-am-today/8 Archive: https://archive.is/cmPASSo, maintaining a $20 floor with ~15 Million Paycoins is clearly impossible with these "Prime Nodes" cranking out insane amounts of coins, but maintaining a $1 floor with ~5 Billion TNT coins with "Prime Nodes" cranking out 3.5x these insane amounts is going to like totally 100% work. He is Totally Cereal about this, c'mon!   |
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This just keeps getting better and better. I've never been banned from an exchange before, let alone one that doesn't even work so there is no possible way I could have done something wrong. Is that because I asked some questions coldboner?  LOL! Banned from an exchange? Your money is no good here! GTFO! |
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John Hartford ~ Natural to be gone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW1iKjPmjy8If you are familiar with They Might Be Giants, listen to this song. I think they picked up some of their quirky rhymes from John. Can't recall the song ATM, but there is a TMBG song with a nearly identical melody to this. |
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is this one guy or are wankboner, coldcock and so on actually a scam team?
never saw such a pathetic scam attempt by the way, and the bar already used to be pretty low before.
It's like a batting machine lobbing softball bloopers one after the other. Muh ahms issah gettun tarred uff hittins em ovuh tha fence! CoiledCoiner says that WunkBlunker is another person, but that today CC is pinch hitting for him. The language, extreme rage, grammatical and spelling errors, misuse of colloquial terms, errors in remembering which sock he is posting as and such make me think that CC, Wunk, and TNTswap are all the same person. |
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Yeah, he seems extraordinarily pissed with you. Well done.
This is some kind of common trait in this "demographic" (Garza, Carmelo, now this coldcoiner/boner person). They get incredibly agitated at the simplest questions. Running a scam must be a very stressful job. Maybe telling countless lies causes headaches. One can only hope. |
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Its an advice from us for who feels all this is a scam. Its not the only way but adviced to buy coin using escrow.
If we post an advice user can take it or leave it :-)
Like one of my friend is going to buy 500 TNT and he will never use escrow. For him no need to go for that. But if someone who are not familiar with TNT coin or just want to test can use escrow to safeguard themselves.
You want to see it in other way that's the problem.
Anyone who want to scam will not be ready to accept escrow and that also of buyer choice. Our only demand is trusted escrow. So that tomorrow no one can ask us to accept MR. Paul as escrow :-)
But escrow means nothing if he (including you) can't pay you back, it's not about trusting an escrow, it's simply about very basic economic principles. If user want to get 1$ value of btc if he decides to give back the coin then he have to find an escrow ready to convert btc paid by user to fiat and keep them untill time over or user close the escrow. Its depends upon user chosen escrow we don't have any control on it :-) And if anyone buy directly from us we will immediately convert btc to fiat and keep 1$ to buy back. Earlier you were saying that the only way to purchase TNT was through a trusted escrow, and now you are saying that people can buy them directly from you. Which is it? You fool we said that user can purchase coins through escrow option and its adviced . User can also purchase coins from wherever they want u idiot Look, I am going by what YOU are saying: FIRST COIN WHERE YOUR FUNDS ARE 100% SAFE. ESCROW BUY
Escrow option:
Finalize the escrow the buyer want to use ( only trusted escrow service will be accepted )===> inform us how many coins u want to buy ==> we will send the coins to escrow and buyer will send the BTC to Escrow===> Escrow will hold the fund equal to 1$/coin for 3 months. :-) ( If the buyer want to sell back the coin they can contact escrow for the same and get back the funds by giving back the coins he bought and stake generated)
Note: Only buy coin using escrow. Else don't buy at all.
bitpop is ready to handle the escrow. and you can also choose another escrow but only trusted escrow will be accepted. Thanks. You should really make a list of all the lies you are putting forth to help you keep them straight. You really suck at this, give it up. Now last word you mother fucker : Its clearly mentioned there : only buy coins from escrow Where is it mentioned you idiot that its the only option available you retarded. You said it again: Only buy coins from escrow. And you say that they can be bought straight from you. So which is it? You clearly have a poor grip on the English language and a complete lack of understanding regarding what statements mean. |
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That coldcoiner dude sure could use a PR frontman. Here's a similar reply I got from him last month:  Also this interesting tidbit, looks like he changed his mind:  He clearly likes you, otherwise he would be threatening to shit in your mouth. |
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In that scenario we simply demand the signed message from user and if not get that we will send back the coins to the address from where the coin is transferred :-)
Nice to see that paul is like ... :-)
Genius idea, you'd send the coins to a non-related cold address in the case of zencloud. I guess there are other wallets that work like this too. also, what about blockchain? there could be 10 or more tx from one wallet? As i already stated we will add this to faq so that user can be aware of it. And if one or two transactions of these type comes we will try to verify by asking for copy of withdrawal confirmation mail received from the exchange they transferred the coin. This TNTswap is getting more secure and easy to use by the minute. Brilliant idea about wanting people to send the withdrawal confirmation Emails from an online wallet (exchange) from where they sent the coins. Sending some random guy in India who refuses to even identify himself my personal exchange confirmations from that related Email is like completely 100% secure.  Its the way we operate if not redy to accept our conditions no need to join :-) that's all If fools store there coins on exchange and pool and transfer from there we can't help them :-) So someone who would store their coins on an exchange is a fool, and you are running an exchange where you want people to store their coins. You are calling all of your customers fools. Fucking brilliant. You are fucking ediot. Read the thread fully you fool: We already requested users not to store coins on any exchange including tntswap you fool. Exchange are for trade not keeping coins . If you keep coins there you will definitely lose it in one way or another.So you are clearly stating that people who keep coins on your exchange will lose them. You are also saying that your exchange is 100% secure. These are OPPOSITES. Choose one or the other. What happen if sunamy hits our place :-) everything will be vanished off you fool. Its always adviced to keep coins on local wallet :-) So you admit that your claim of your exchange being 100% secure is nothing but a blatant fucking lie to trick people into trusting you? I knew this from the start, but it is good to hear you admit it yourself. You idiot we only claimed that in a event of server down or hack we will not lose the wallet access and coins. And now its clear by your post that you are simply fool . So none of your queries will be attended. :-) we don't need mentally retarded users So now you are saying that you will not lose the coins due to a server going down or a hack, but other than that they can and will be lost, and that anybody who chooses to put coins on your exchange is clearly a fool. Your words. |
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Its an advice from us for who feels all this is a scam. Its not the only way but adviced to buy coin using escrow.
If we post an advice user can take it or leave it :-)
Like one of my friend is going to buy 500 TNT and he will never use escrow. For him no need to go for that. But if someone who are not familiar with TNT coin or just want to test can use escrow to safeguard themselves.
You want to see it in other way that's the problem.
Anyone who want to scam will not be ready to accept escrow and that also of buyer choice. Our only demand is trusted escrow. So that tomorrow no one can ask us to accept MR. Paul as escrow :-)
But escrow means nothing if he (including you) can't pay you back, it's not about trusting an escrow, it's simply about very basic economic principles. If user want to get 1$ value of btc if he decides to give back the coin then he have to find an escrow ready to convert btc paid by user to fiat and keep them untill time over or user close the escrow. Its depends upon user chosen escrow we don't have any control on it :-) And if anyone buy directly from us we will immediately convert btc to fiat and keep 1$ to buy back. Earlier you were saying that the only way to purchase TNT was through a trusted escrow, and now you are saying that people can buy them directly from you. Which is it? You fool we said that user can purchase coins through escrow option and its adviced . User can also purchase coins from wherever they want u idiot Look, I am going by what YOU are saying: FIRST COIN WHERE YOUR FUNDS ARE 100% SAFE. ESCROW BUY
Escrow option:
Finalize the escrow the buyer want to use ( only trusted escrow service will be accepted )===> inform us how many coins u want to buy ==> we will send the coins to escrow and buyer will send the BTC to Escrow===> Escrow will hold the fund equal to 1$/coin for 3 months. :-) ( If the buyer want to sell back the coin they can contact escrow for the same and get back the funds by giving back the coins he bought and stake generated)
Note: Only buy coin using escrow. Else don't buy at all.
bitpop is ready to handle the escrow. and you can also choose another escrow but only trusted escrow will be accepted. Thanks. You should really make a list of all the lies you are putting forth to help you keep them straight. You really suck at this, give it up. |
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Its an advice from us for who feels all this is a scam. Its not the only way but adviced to buy coin using escrow.
If we post an advice user can take it or leave it :-)
Like one of my friend is going to buy 500 TNT and he will never use escrow. For him no need to go for that. But if someone who are not familiar with TNT coin or just want to test can use escrow to safeguard themselves.
You want to see it in other way that's the problem.
Anyone who want to scam will not be ready to accept escrow and that also of buyer choice. Our only demand is trusted escrow. So that tomorrow no one can ask us to accept MR. Paul as escrow :-)
But escrow means nothing if he (including you) can't pay you back, it's not about trusting an escrow, it's simply about very basic economic principles. If user want to get 1$ value of btc if he decides to give back the coin then he have to find an escrow ready to convert btc paid by user to fiat and keep them untill time over or user close the escrow. Its depends upon user chosen escrow we don't have any control on it :-) And if anyone buy directly from us we will immediately convert btc to fiat and keep 1$ to buy back. Earlier you were saying that the only way to purchase TNT was through a trusted escrow, and now you are saying that people can buy them directly from you. Which is it? FIRST COIN WHERE YOUR FUNDS ARE 100% SAFE. ESCROW BUY
Escrow option:
Finalize the escrow the buyer want to use ( only trusted escrow service will be accepted )===> inform us how many coins u want to buy ==> we will send the coins to escrow and buyer will send the BTC to Escrow===> Escrow will hold the fund equal to 1$/coin for 3 months. :-) ( If the buyer want to sell back the coin they can contact escrow for the same and get back the funds by giving back the coins he bought and stake generated)
Note: Only buy coin using escrow. Else don't buy at all.
bitpop is ready to handle the escrow. and you can also choose another escrow but only trusted escrow will be accepted. Thanks. |
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In that scenario we simply demand the signed message from user and if not get that we will send back the coins to the address from where the coin is transferred :-)
Nice to see that paul is like ... :-)
Genius idea, you'd send the coins to a non-related cold address in the case of zencloud. I guess there are other wallets that work like this too. also, what about blockchain? there could be 10 or more tx from one wallet? As i already stated we will add this to faq so that user can be aware of it. And if one or two transactions of these type comes we will try to verify by asking for copy of withdrawal confirmation mail received from the exchange they transferred the coin. This TNTswap is getting more secure and easy to use by the minute. Brilliant idea about wanting people to send the withdrawal confirmation Emails from an online wallet (exchange) from where they sent the coins. Sending some random guy in India who refuses to even identify himself my personal exchange confirmations from that related Email is like completely 100% secure. Its the way we operate if not redy to accept our conditions no need to join :-) that's all If fools store there coins on exchange and pool and transfer from there we can't help them :-) So someone who would store their coins on an exchange is a fool, and you are running an exchange where you want people to store their coins. You are calling all of your customers fools. Fucking brilliant. You are fucking ediot. Read the thread fully you fool: We already requested users not to store coins on any exchange including tntswap you fool. Exchange are for trade not keeping coins . If you keep coins there you will definitely lose it in one way or another.So you are clearly stating that people who keep coins on your exchange will lose them. You are also saying that your exchange is 100% secure. These are OPPOSITES. Choose one or the other. What happen if sunamy hits our place :-) everything will be vanished off you fool. Its always adviced to keep coins on local wallet :-) So you admit that your claim of your exchange being 100% secure is nothing but a blatant fucking lie to trick people into trusting you? I knew this from the start, but it is good to hear you admit it yourself. |
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In that scenario we simply demand the signed message from user and if not get that we will send back the coins to the address from where the coin is transferred :-)
Nice to see that paul is like ... :-)
Genius idea, you'd send the coins to a non-related cold address in the case of zencloud. I guess there are other wallets that work like this too. also, what about blockchain? there could be 10 or more tx from one wallet? As i already stated we will add this to faq so that user can be aware of it. And if one or two transactions of these type comes we will try to verify by asking for copy of withdrawal confirmation mail received from the exchange they transferred the coin. This TNTswap is getting more secure and easy to use by the minute. Brilliant idea about wanting people to send the withdrawal confirmation Emails from an online wallet (exchange) from where they sent the coins. Sending some random guy in India who refuses to even identify himself my personal exchange confirmations from that related Email is like completely 100% secure. Its the way we operate if not redy to accept our conditions no need to join :-) that's all If fools store there coins on exchange and pool and transfer from there we can't help them :-) So someone who would store their coins on an exchange is a fool, and you are running an exchange where you want people to store their coins. You are calling all of your customers fools. Fucking brilliant. You are fucking ediot. Read the thread fully you fool: We already requested users not to store coins on any exchange including tntswap you fool. Exchange are for trade not keeping coins . If you keep coins there you will definitely lose it in one way or another.So you are clearly stating that people who keep coins on your exchange will lose them. You are also saying that your exchange is 100% secure. These are OPPOSITES. Choose one or the other. |
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In that scenario we simply demand the signed message from user and if not get that we will send back the coins to the address from where the coin is transferred :-)
Nice to see that paul is like ... :-)
Genius idea, you'd send the coins to a non-related cold address in the case of zencloud. I guess there are other wallets that work like this too. also, what about blockchain? there could be 10 or more tx from one wallet? As i already stated we will add this to faq so that user can be aware of it. And if one or two transactions of these type comes we will try to verify by asking for copy of withdrawal confirmation mail received from the exchange they transferred the coin. This TNTswap is getting more secure and easy to use by the minute. Brilliant idea about wanting people to send the withdrawal confirmation Emails from an online wallet (exchange) from where they sent the coins. Sending some random guy in India who refuses to even identify himself my personal exchange confirmations from that related Email is like completely 100% secure. Its the way we operate if not redy to accept our conditions no need to join :-) that's all If fools store there coins on exchange and pool and transfer from there we can't help them :-) So someone who would store their coins on an exchange is a fool, and you are running an exchange where you want people to store their coins. You are calling all of your customers fools. Fucking brilliant. |
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In that scenario we simply demand the signed message from user and if not get that we will send back the coins to the address from where the coin is transferred :-)
Nice to see that paul is like ... :-)
Genius idea, you'd send the coins to a non-related cold address in the case of zencloud. I guess there are other wallets that work like this too. also, what about blockchain? there could be 10 or more tx from one wallet? As i already stated we will add this to faq so that user can be aware of it. And if one or two transactions of these type comes we will try to verify by asking for copy of withdrawal confirmation mail received from the exchange they transferred the coin. This TNTswap is getting more secure and easy to use by the minute. Brilliant idea about wanting people to send the withdrawal confirmation Emails from an online wallet (exchange) from where they sent the coins. Sending some random guy in India who refuses to even identify himself my personal exchange confirmations from that related Email is like completely 100% secure. |
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uh just a question: if I monitor the chain and claim a TX... how do you prevent that? brilliant idea, did you learn from Josh Garza? I think you didn't read the deposit procedure :-) User have to mail tx details from their registered id :-) And we cant give you further info regarding internal procedures otherthan what is published . The necessary info required by user is in deposit page and deposit address will also be rotated :-) What he was asking is what if someone who has an account on TNTswap watches the Blockchain for a deposit, and then sends you the Email from his registered mail address and claims it as his. How do you know who is telling the truth? This system is so idiotic and full of security holes it is a complete and total fucking joke. You do not even understand what the issues are, let alone how to deal with them. Give it up, you are an incompetant failure and do not belong in this business. You want me to explain how we handle that so that hou can use it to manipulate the deposit procedure :-) great Someone asked us prior is it possible to directly mine to tntswap address and we no it will not be credited . You don't think there's a reason behind that :-) Signed address verification or something like that :-) "Something like that". WTF? Explain. You are saying this is the most secure exchange in existence, and you do not even have the most basic things worked out. This is a total and complete fucking joke. I think you are fuckingretarded. Check the post its clearly mentioned there that we know that exchange server can be hacked but we will not lose coin because no wallets are installed on server . Nobody even mentioned a hack or losing coins. Stop snorting drain cleaner for a minute and read the post. The question posed was about your method of verifying that customer A made a specific deposit instead of Customer B, when they both make a claim saying the same deposit is theirs. Instead of answering the question you just start blurting out random buzz words. You are like a dumber and completely psychotic version of Garza. At this point anyone who deposits coins with you is a complete fool. |
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uh just a question: if I monitor the chain and claim a TX... how do you prevent that? brilliant idea, did you learn from Josh Garza? I think you didn't read the deposit procedure :-) User have to mail tx details from their registered id :-) And we cant give you further info regarding internal procedures otherthan what is published . The necessary info required by user is in deposit page and deposit address will also be rotated :-) What he was asking is what if someone who has an account on TNTswap watches the Blockchain for a deposit, and then sends you the Email from his registered mail address and claims it as his. How do you know who is telling the truth? This system is so idiotic and full of security holes it is a complete and total fucking joke. You do not even understand what the issues are, let alone how to deal with them. Give it up, you are an incompetant failure and do not belong in this business. You want me to explain how we handle that so that hou can use it to manipulate the deposit procedure :-) great Someone asked us prior is it possible to directly mine to tntswap address and we no it will not be credited . You don't think there's a reason behind that :-) Signed address verification or something like that :-) "Something like that". WTF? Explain. You are saying this is the most secure exchange in existence, and you do not even have the most basic things worked out. This is a total and complete fucking joke. |
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About escrows... this use case: - Phil buys 500 coins for $500
- $500 at $250/BTC = 2BTC
- Phil sends 2BTC to Escrow A
- 2 months pass, bitcoin price falls to $50
- Phil sees a great business opportunity because he thinks BTC will go up, I have 500 coins worth a $1 each
- Phil sends 500 coins back to Escrow A
- Escrow A now owes $500 in BTC at $50 rate (10BTC)
- Escrow A lost 8BTC ($400)
- Escrow A can't pay that money because all he got was 2BTC from the start
Now, if we reverse the story - Phil buys 500 coins for $500
- $500 at $250/BTC = 2BTC
- Phil sends 2BTC to Escrow A
- 2 months pass, bitcoin price goes up to $500
- Phil thinks BTC will still be going up and he has 500 coins worth a $1 each
- Phil sends 500 coins back to Escrow A
- Escrow A now owes $500 in BTC at $500 rate (1BTC)
- Escrow A just made $250
With that premise any swing in BTC price will cost the buyer or the escrow dearly. If we say only the amount escrowed is given back then you may be getting back $0.2 for you $1 coin, it isn't a $1 coin anymore, the only way to say it is a $1 coin is for you to get $1 back. This can only work if escrow are holding funds in FIAT which kinds of defeats the purpose of the coin. And yes if user found an acceptable escrow ready to accept fiat or immediately convert the btc and keep the fund in fiat we don't have any problem. We are giving user the option to choose the escrow so user will be responsible for that. What does that mean, users get the amount of BTC he put in two months ago or user gets $500 at today's value in BTC? Coldcoiner has no idea what he is talking about. Completely lost. If you check back, he came up with the whole escrow idea a day or two ago, and is just blurting out random BS that he thinks people will buy. What it boils down to is he got hardcore scammed by Josh Garza, and now he is trying to do the same thing to other people, and he is using the same buzz words he heard Garza use to pull his scam and is simply repeating them. |
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