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681  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 05, 2015, 08:47:23 PM
Here are pics showing the wall getting eaten up since 6/3, when there was ~100,000XPY wall there.


The bloodbath begins

I'm getting hungry. Nom Nom, Red candles yummy!

Nom Nom


*Burp*
682  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 05, 2015, 08:33:24 PM
Buhbyes support wall @ .00032:



Are Those Who Have Endless Free XPY who have been working together for this last pump breaking ranks and devouring each others push walls? I have been watching that same ~20BTC wall being pushed up and pulled away right before dumpage for a couple of weeks, and all of a sudden someone dumped into it.

P.S: Got ninja'd by Clownius-LOL. Looks like he is thinking the same thing I am.
683  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 05, 2015, 08:15:27 PM
I was noodling around a bit and discovered something very odd about the Cryptsy address where 1,000 of the 42,000 XPY from BTClend ended up. It seems that all of the deposits here come from Bittrex, usually directly, but in a couple cases I looked at they went through a couple of shuffle addresses first. Darned near all of the deposits here look like this:



https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PJSoxCA3fqUg2HV4whNKpDKuGFGP33gmDv.htm

Very odd indeed. Around 33,000XPY have gone briefly through Bittrex and then went to this account since March 19. I have only checked a dozen or so of these addresses so far, still looking for a deposit that will link it to some known wallet, but thus far everything leads back to Bittrex. These amounts are too much to be explained by arbitraging between Bittrex and Cryptsy. It looks to be a more complex mixing attempt than the regular Paycoin shuffle seen all along.
684  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 05, 2015, 06:36:44 PM
OK, found more XPY moving from BTClend to both Cryptsy and Bittrex. This here appears to be a shuffle address, which also receives scrape from PC payouts. Portions of the 68,000XPY parking address mentioned above have moved through here recently, and many smaller transactions have entered and exited. It is possible that these are legitimate withdrawals, but is suspicious how coins are taken from one of the main BTClend addresses and then routed through this one on their way to exchanges. Most of the outputs are to either exchanges or the main BTClend wallet. In a few cases large even amounts have moved to other parking addresses.
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PDSwS6UKQcFAkD3HQU4aNior4iF2JKTvyR.htm
685  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY btc.com Bitcoinist. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 05, 2015, 05:20:30 PM
I am not sure what the 42,000 XPY transaction is about. Are you saying these coins were "liberated" from BTClend, or sent out by Carmel to sell for the purpose of covering the BTC lost from BTClend? It is not obvious to me what is going on there. They do all go to Bittrex, in only 2 transactions. Also, I can say that these coins don't seem to have anything to do with the massive amounts being taken and sent to exchanges from the (now) #2 address.

Those coins were liberated from BTC Lend Customers.   The bitcoins in a few cases appear to have been purchased inside user accounts drawing from their banks, and then withdrawn from btclend.

I'll get clarification on the 42K XPY.   It was stated that they were stolen from BTC Lend during the same theft.

Another UPDATE:

Everyone should try to withdraw their coins which are locked in "Staking" mode with BTC Lend.   It seems like Carmelo doesn't want to let them go Smiley  Maybe he doesn't have the users coins actually in XPY and has done something with them?

Of course, if everyone tried to withdraw all coins there would likely be a "run on the bank".

I will try to take a look at the known BTClend addresses to see if any major amounts have left recently. If you have a list of these it would help, but I do have a few addresses that have been confirmed to belong to BTClend. When I first heard of the BTClend scam a few months back, I immediately said that if Carmelo was really trying to make a profit, the obvious thing to do would be to immediately dump the XPY that were deposited, because the price is constantly dropping. When people want to withdraw, you would keep a certain amount in reserve to cover this, and if the withdrawals increased past that you would then have to buy coins to cover that. The longer you could con people into keeping their coins in @ 10%/year interest when the price is dropping 50-75% per MONTH, the more profit you would make. BUT, the addresses that I am aware of holding BTClend coins did not show this happening- so my conclusion had been that he is simply doing this as a scheme to lock coins up so they are not dumped. I may not have had all of the necessary addresses, and he may have started dumping more recently, after my initial look into this.

Also: A message to everyone with coins at BTClend and the other increased stake online wallets. You have about two weeks (MAXIMUM) to pull your coins out and dump them at the current rate. Just before the 180 day stakers are released there will be a huge dump, closely followed by dumping of what is said to be ~800,000 XPY from the stakers. Use your head. 10%/year means nothing when the coin value plummets 50-90% in a couple days.
686  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 05, 2015, 04:00:16 PM
In relation to the BTClend activities, I took a look at the address where Carmelo parked the coins taken by the "rouge developer" after he was notified of the "theft", and 53,265 XPY were removed from there yesterday, and join up with some more XPY and are now sitting in a 68,900XPY chunk here: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PRgGS4XfW7hEFAyBJRxhEkbsY1Vuq8ic2o.htm


The remainder of the coins sent to that address were pulled from what I think is a BTClend user wallet (1459 addresses):
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/wallet.dws?281359.htm

Address of the "rouge dev" hijacked XPY: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PJ7eYpspyanPo8AFyzeXmVhU5N37YST8aG.htm




687  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY btc.com Bitcoinist. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 05, 2015, 03:30:14 PM
UPDATE:

BTC Lend is a FinCEN registered MSB operating, allegedly illegally, in the state of Florida with their LLC based in Delaware.  

The service was COMPROMISED for the SECOND time and customer coins were LOST for the second time (second confirmed time).  

Carmelo then posted that everything was solved (as quoted and archived below) and no customer coins were lost.  

Cryptsy and Bitrex were notified of the theft.

Addresses for the stolen coins.

I don't believe the public has been notified of any details yet?  

XPY 42,000
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PN9tXWfRNxaTrKyGgLM7UXKLxPwoyjoVHf.htm

BTC 21
https://blockchain.info/tx/f6e75742ad5f22b342308c6e1809be3452811f212ccb039e37c47e65999136bd

BTC 4.45
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1bwqkYg7SqQnYuQ19eNXsovSgVHMYypGg

BTC 2
https://blockchain.info/es/address/18nUecCHjFHC6QjpzQX7t5HgQ32wPuqKm6

@Paul Revere, some of the recent dumps may have been carmelo withdrawing from ZenCloud to buy BTC in order to payback the lost bitcoins!  Since BTC Lend has four (4) prime controllers they can likely make up the xpy.  

BTC Lend may be operating at a negative balance (Fractional Reserve) right now.


Well Looky Here:

https://btclendtalk.org/topic/251/coinbase-hacked
https://archive.is/MerLI

@VCollective
Quote
Coinbase Hacked
Everyone check your coinbase account, i have had reports of 4 BTC getting purchased and sent to an address. 2 confirmed reports so far.

Coins were sent to here 1M8zzE2HHsPvBHUeKQ6wwD2B8bjHcBqnvd

I am not sure what the 42,000 XPY transaction is about. Are you saying these coins were "liberated" from BTClend, or sent out by Carmel to sell for the purpose of covering the BTC lost from BTClend? It is not obvious to me what is going on there. They do all go to Bittrex, in only 2 transactions. Also, I can say that these coins don't seem to have anything to do with the massive amounts being taken and sent to exchanges from the (now) #2 address.


https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?683284.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?683319.htm

Also: I know this is not conclusive, but it is fishy. Look where 1,000 XPY from that 42,000XPY address went. This could in theory be any Bittrex user transferring coins over to Cryptsy, but note that the rest of the coins deposited in the Bittrex address where Carmelo's XPY went have not been moved to another (cold) wallet.


688  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 05, 2015, 12:51:51 PM

accusing potential investors is a really big turnoff by the way. Where did some people learn their public relations skills?

wait, you want to invest in paycoin?

why yes, this is a great opportunity for the likes of you. make sure to check out hashtalk.ch

HIlarious. Bitbets , you should skip "investing" in Paycoin and go straight to TNT coin. It is a new and better version of Paycoin, complete with it's own exchange service, just like Paycoin (part of the reason this thread is in the service discussion).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1000505.msg11525563#msg11525563
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1072935.msg11531149#new
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066969.0

When you are ready to invest, just summon Bitpop for your escrow needs.
689  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 04, 2015, 06:51:51 PM
When I suggested in my post Badbitcoin.org Gives Bad Bitcoin Advice he had the temerity to claim that posts by Colonel32 here on BitcoinTalk were made by an impostor.

great article btw. and lol for badbitclown in the comments, too funny Cheesy



ViK has Pity for us.



These guys probably know what the beef jerky is for.  Cheesy
690  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 04, 2015, 05:12:49 PM
BadBitclown defending the masses with astute observations on how to spot a scam. Uh, wait a second, these things sound like the description of the Paycoin scam that he/she vehemently defends.  Huh


https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37994/paying-as-of-june-4-xcryptos-com-new-investment-site-plan-options-within-24-hours-available/8 Archive: https://archive.is/g6yOS

Amazing that these idiots over there actually listen to this asshole shill.
691  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 04, 2015, 03:56:50 PM
someone knows something you don't - of course.

there will be a huge dump once this zencloud things are released. we're witnessing the last pump & dumps for this coin

Yep, right before the flood of released coins happens there will be some huge dumpage, and those getting their XPY back from stakers will be left with the option of dumping them for damned near nothing or keeping the worthless crap. In the meantime I think we will likely see one more little Pump attempt. It looked like it was happening yesterday with about 10,000 XPY being bought, and then it fizzled and stopped.
692  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 04, 2015, 03:47:33 PM
It still amazes me that the Paycoiner's can simply not grasp how coin markets work, particularly how pumping to create higher priced Buy Bids is done. This latest Pump and corresponding Dump was incredibly obvious, yet these idiots can not see what is right in front of them. All during this latest Pump, Those With Infinite Free XPY have been using the same ~20BTC Push Wall to buoy Buy Bids and make people feel secure enough to put up their own Buy Bids at or above the Push Wall price. Over and over during this latest pump I have watched these Buy Bids get sucked up, stopping short of their own Push Wall. When they want to scoop up the Buy Bids below the Push Wall, you will see it get pulled, and then they dump and scoop up all of the real Buy Bids, then buy into the resulting vacuum and prop up the price with the Push Wall again. Pump, let Buy Bids accumulate, Dump, rinse, repeat. They know their Push Wall is relatively safe, because Those With Infinite XPY are all acting in collusion here, and if others start to panic and dump into it they just pull it and place it a bit lower. Ya, the people with the 20 BTC Push Wall know something all right. They know that all of the Paycoiners are stupid morons that can not figure out they are being played for fools.




No signs of an obvious Pump/Dump cycle here at all.  Roll Eyes



Also, another 100,000 XPY have been sent on the Shuffle from what has been the #1 address this week, pushing it down to the #2 spot now. The idea that this is all Hashtaker payouts is completely preposterous , as there have been MILLIONS of XPY moved to exchanges from this address in the last couple of months. This would mean that there were MANY Millions of Hashstakers, which is simply not the case, the latest estimate is around 500,000, which would mean payouts of ~50,000 per month, not a Million as we can see is the case.



693  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 04, 2015, 01:14:51 PM

nah, those scam site owners know where to go to promote their shit. I think you can make good money out of the hashtalk crowd

Amazingly enough, the wily and hardened Hashtalker's seem to have pegged this for a Ponzi scam.



And yet they can not grasp that Paycoin is a scam. The remaining few hanging out simply think that there were/are a few bad actors, but the coin itself is sound and viable. Never mind that 90% of the Paycoins are in the hands of a few people who got them for free.



The People's Coin!
694  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 04, 2015, 01:21:44 AM
Dumb and Dumber than a fucking stick, in action:


https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37983/where-i-am-today/11 Archive: https://archive.is/nuw7G

Edit to add: I was not sure how to grade the mangled last sentence, but now I think he meant "seeing that you'll" after the incorrect separation of "otherwise" into two words.

And corrects him on waist vs waste. Lulz to the GAWtard.

Eggzackry.  Cheesy

Protip: When you're criticizing someone's grammar, make sure yours is correct.
695  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 04, 2015, 12:55:44 AM
Dumb and Dumber than a fucking stick, in action:


https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37983/where-i-am-today/11 Archive: https://archive.is/nuw7G

Edit to add: I was not sure how to grade the mangled last sentence, but now I think he meant "seeing that you'll" after the incorrect separation of "otherwise" into two words.
696  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 04, 2015, 12:24:12 AM
An interesting post on Hashtalk:


https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37916/here-is-where-we-discuss-the-latest-post-from-the-mrceo-handle/132 Archive: https://archive.is/SqsZN
697  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 03, 2015, 11:11:26 PM
Probably a really simple answer that I've missed somewhere along the line, but why is it that miaviator is the go to person for zencloud account unlocking?

weren't one of the multitude of other entities supposed to have taken on those responsibilities?

698  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 03, 2015, 09:41:52 PM
Paul you're gonna love this:

http://paycoinable.com/

Looks like a site for special paycoinable people to get paycoined.

https://archive.is/L0arr
https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37982/introducing-paycoinable-offering-gift-cards-for-xpy

@Droopy
Introducing Paycoinable - Offering Gift Cards for XPY
Quote
As the owner of Paycoinable, I wanted to open this thread to explain my project, and to allow everyone a way to ask me questions, and provide us with feedback. You can check it out here: https:/paycoinable.com

First off, let me apologize to everyone living outside the US. Unfortunately, we are not currently shipping outside the US. Gift cards are specialized to the region. Most gift cards that are purchased in the US can only be used in the US, and those merchants with more liberal policies still leave it up to the individual stores in other regions whether or not to accept a gift card. So paycoinable is US-only to begin with.

Paycoinable is a XPY-only store that offers a painless way to purchase gift cards for yourself or others. We offer physical gift cards from many popular merchants.

Our initial offering:

Restaurants - Longhorn Steakhouse, Olive Garden, Buffalo Wild Wings, SubWay and others
Coffee - Starbucks
Retailers - Best Buy, Lowe's
Entertainment - Regal Cinemas (and UA Theatres)
Yes it is modest, but I already have more brands and more gift cards on the way. Hopefully there will be something for everybody really soon.

If you happen to do the math, you may notice that your paycoins have been given a little boost. This 5% boost is designed to generate a little demand for paycoins, and maybe for us as well.

So, how does paycoinable work?

Add your gift cards to the shopping cart
At the end of the checkout process, send your paycoins through coinpayments gateway
Your order will be processed and shipped usually within 24 hours
USPS will deliver your order in approximately 3 - 10 business days
Finally, thank you to all of you who have offered up encouragement and suggestions, and also to all of those who have already visited our store.

Cheers,
Jonathan

Code:
"username":"Droopy
"ip":"75.66.29.202, 10.133.169.135"




The Mississippi location is interesting. Think these are just socks?
699  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 03, 2015, 07:06:48 PM
Were all accounts locked? If so, is there any evidence of anyone with multiple large accounts wanting them unlocked? Someone with the initials HJG perhaps?
700  Local / Marketplace (India) / Re: [ ANN ]FIRST ALTCOIN EXCHANGE ACCEPTING TRADES IN BOTH INDIAN RUPEES AND UNITED on: June 03, 2015, 07:02:58 PM
TNT coin will only be available by mining. TNT coin will only be available through escrow purchase. TNT coin can be purchased from TNTswap. Uhhh, no. How about: TNT is the scam project of a schizophrenic Hashtalk Paycoiner idiot who changes the scam outline continuously.


https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37654/ann-transit-coin/2 Archive: https://archive.is/Q6l8S
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