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781  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 02, 2015, 02:00:20 AM

https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37960/100-million-caf/10 Archive: https://archive.is/dFOST

I am pretty sure that is the first actual witty thing I have seen posted on Hashtalk. Usually when I read the attempts at humor there I shake my head and think " WTF? Are all of these Hashtalkers from a 5th grade Special Ed class or what?"
782  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 02, 2015, 01:25:36 AM
If I buy Hashclub do I get the payout from the pending "slander" litigation against Miaviator included? That would be a super deal right there. Cheesy

What if miaviator buys it? That would be awkward.

I am offering Smiley

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PLEASE NOTE: I will ONLY sell these to someone with the highest of standards and care for the community.
If they don't have these values, I will not sell it to them. No matter how much they offer. I stand firm on that.


783  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 02, 2015, 01:01:54 AM
If I buy Hashclub do I get the payout from the pending "slander" litigation against Miaviator included? That would be a super deal right there. Cheesy
784  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ ANN ] FIRST ALTCOIN EXCHANGE ACCEPTING TRADES IN BOTH INDIAN RUPEES AND UNITED on: June 02, 2015, 12:41:44 AM
There is going to be ~$5 Billion worth of escrow needed to cover the new TNT coin purchases, so I would think there needs to be some expansion in escrow service providers.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066969.0

Escrow option:

Finalize the escrow the buyer want to use ( only trusted escrow service will be accepted )===> inform us how many coins u want to buy ==> we will send the coins to escrow and buyer will send the BTC to Escrow===> Escrow will hold the fund equal to 1$/coin for 3 months. :-) ( If the buyer want to sell back the coin they can contact escrow for the same and get back the funds by giving back the coins he bought and stake generated)


Note: Only buy coin using escrow. Else don't buy at all.


He is totally cereal. No really, cereally. Here he explains the operation a bit more clearly:

Here is Wunkbone admitting that TNTswap "exchange" is a scam. The asshole literally laughs when confronted with the evidence that TNTswap is simply a scam to get people to deposit coins in his Cryptsy account:

Who pays for the escrow service? If all coins are purchased through escrow, where exactly is the dumping of staked coins happening? If you can use or dump this coin, that means it must be tradable on exchanges. If it is being traded on exchanges, that means that coins are being bought and sold without escrow. Nothing you are saying makes any sense. If funds to purchase TNT coins are sent to you, what is stopping YOU from just keeping those funds and disappearing before you send it to the escrow service? Who are you? Where are you (India)? Why are you pretending to be multiple people, when it is obvious you are Coldcoiner from Hashtalk?

Also: Have you found that address of the 10,000 XPY bounty yet? Still waiting. Prove that you actually have these coins or remove all mention of the bounty, apologize for wasting people's time, and remove any insinuation that this fake bounty proves that your exchange is secure.

P.S: The person having trouble with the English language is you, not me, so please give that bullshit a break.


R u mentally retarded several times it was cleared that:

The user will send the fund to escrow they prefer and escrow will keep the funds.   and keep in mind none of the user will choose us for escrow they will choose btcpop or escrow.ms or other escrow service they like.

Either you are mentally retarded or spreading FUD so all your further post will be ignored

So, it has come to light that TNTswap is not an exchange at all, you just want people to deposit coins in your Cryptsy account. WTF? You have some explaining to do. Let us know how you are going to explain that your exchange is nothing more than you wanting people to deposit coins in your Cryptsy account. And, your explanation of how the escrow is going to work is bullshit. Answer the questions. Who pays the escrow fee? If ALL coins are purchased through escrow, how do people dump them, as you say can be done? How can the coin be used if all purchases are done through escrow? The coin is either traded on exchanges, or it isn't. Please answer the questions and stop being an asshole and attacking people.


Now he is refusing to prove that they are in possession of 10,000 XPY as they are claiming to be offered as a bounty for checking their security. This is the most worthless bunch of chumps to launch an XPY scam in quite a while.

Apparently they just store the coins on cryptsy and process withdrawals manually.



PJagaQFptPkmHQjHg3Czhg7pRiUAcVfwzT

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PJagaQFptPkmHQjHg3Czhg7pRiUAcVfwzT.htm:



Source code for the exchange appears to be here https://github.com/btcexch1/ecoinstrader

IP address is 192.99.1.95.

Alternate web addresses are


(Note: the certificate will be from tntswap.com)

WTF? Seriously? This is a blatant scam, and means that everything that has been stated about TNTswap is a brazen fucking lie.

 Grin

And here is Wunkbone admitting that he is actually Hashtalk member Coldcoiner, along with his other sockpuppet account here, TNTswap:

This was brought up:


Now he is refusing to prove that they are in possession of 10,000 XPY as they are claiming to be offered as a bounty for checking their security. This is the most worthless bunch of chumps to launch an XPY scam in quite a while.

Apparently they just store the coins on cryptsy and process withdrawals manually.



PJagaQFptPkmHQjHg3Czhg7pRiUAcVfwzT

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PJagaQFptPkmHQjHg3Czhg7pRiUAcVfwzT.htm:



Source code for the exchange appears to be here https://github.com/btcexch1/ecoinstrader

IP address is 192.99.1.95.

Alternate web addresses are


(Note: the certificate will be from tntswap.com)

So, TNTswap is not an exchange at all, you just want people to deposit coins in your Cryptsy account. WTF? Seriously? This is one of the most blatant scams I have seen in quite a while. Please explain this, since it is completely different that you were claiming this "exchange" to be.


And PLEASE stop posting with multiple accounts, Coildcoiner. Everyone knows that there is one person running this scam.

Ok we all are coldcoiner then what ?

Already told you we are not able to stop you from assuming what ever you want.

Finally. Thank you for admitting that you are Coldcoiner. Now, what is your explanation of the revelation that your TNTswap exchange is nothing more than a scam to get people to deposit funds into your Cryptsy accounts?

This guy is a GAW/Paycoin scam victim who has decided to try to do to others what was done to him. Stay away from this coin and everything that Coldcoiner and his sockpuppet accounts TNTswap, and Wunkbone are involved in.

Some random unidentified guy in India, associated with known scammer Josh Garza. Seems legit.
785  Local / Marketplace (India) / Re: [ ANN ]FIRST ALTCOIN EXCHANGE ACCEPTING TRADES IN BOTH INDIAN RUPEES AND UNITED on: June 02, 2015, 12:41:18 AM
There is going to be ~$5 Billion worth of escrow needed to cover the new TNT coin purchases, so I would think there needs to be some expansion in escrow service providers.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066969.0

Escrow option:

Finalize the escrow the buyer want to use ( only trusted escrow service will be accepted )===> inform us how many coins u want to buy ==> we will send the coins to escrow and buyer will send the BTC to Escrow===> Escrow will hold the fund equal to 1$/coin for 3 months. :-) ( If the buyer want to sell back the coin they can contact escrow for the same and get back the funds by giving back the coins he bought and stake generated)


Note: Only buy coin using escrow. Else don't buy at all.


He is totally cereal. No really, cereally. Here he explains the operation a bit more clearly:

Here is Wunkbone admitting that TNTswap "exchange" is a scam. The asshole literally laughs when confronted with the evidence that TNTswap is simply a scam to get people to deposit coins in his Cryptsy account:

Who pays for the escrow service? If all coins are purchased through escrow, where exactly is the dumping of staked coins happening? If you can use or dump this coin, that means it must be tradable on exchanges. If it is being traded on exchanges, that means that coins are being bought and sold without escrow. Nothing you are saying makes any sense. If funds to purchase TNT coins are sent to you, what is stopping YOU from just keeping those funds and disappearing before you send it to the escrow service? Who are you? Where are you (India)? Why are you pretending to be multiple people, when it is obvious you are Coldcoiner from Hashtalk?

Also: Have you found that address of the 10,000 XPY bounty yet? Still waiting. Prove that you actually have these coins or remove all mention of the bounty, apologize for wasting people's time, and remove any insinuation that this fake bounty proves that your exchange is secure.

P.S: The person having trouble with the English language is you, not me, so please give that bullshit a break.


R u mentally retarded several times it was cleared that:

The user will send the fund to escrow they prefer and escrow will keep the funds.   and keep in mind none of the user will choose us for escrow they will choose btcpop or escrow.ms or other escrow service they like.

Either you are mentally retarded or spreading FUD so all your further post will be ignored

So, it has come to light that TNTswap is not an exchange at all, you just want people to deposit coins in your Cryptsy account. WTF? You have some explaining to do. Let us know how you are going to explain that your exchange is nothing more than you wanting people to deposit coins in your Cryptsy account. And, your explanation of how the escrow is going to work is bullshit. Answer the questions. Who pays the escrow fee? If ALL coins are purchased through escrow, how do people dump them, as you say can be done? How can the coin be used if all purchases are done through escrow? The coin is either traded on exchanges, or it isn't. Please answer the questions and stop being an asshole and attacking people.


Now he is refusing to prove that they are in possession of 10,000 XPY as they are claiming to be offered as a bounty for checking their security. This is the most worthless bunch of chumps to launch an XPY scam in quite a while.

Apparently they just store the coins on cryptsy and process withdrawals manually.



PJagaQFptPkmHQjHg3Czhg7pRiUAcVfwzT

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PJagaQFptPkmHQjHg3Czhg7pRiUAcVfwzT.htm:



Source code for the exchange appears to be here https://github.com/btcexch1/ecoinstrader

IP address is 192.99.1.95.

Alternate web addresses are


(Note: the certificate will be from tntswap.com)

WTF? Seriously? This is a blatant scam, and means that everything that has been stated about TNTswap is a brazen fucking lie.

 Grin

And here is Wunkbone admitting that he is actually Hashtalk member Coldcoiner, along with his other sockpuppet account here, TNTswap:

This was brought up:


Now he is refusing to prove that they are in possession of 10,000 XPY as they are claiming to be offered as a bounty for checking their security. This is the most worthless bunch of chumps to launch an XPY scam in quite a while.

Apparently they just store the coins on cryptsy and process withdrawals manually.



PJagaQFptPkmHQjHg3Czhg7pRiUAcVfwzT

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PJagaQFptPkmHQjHg3Czhg7pRiUAcVfwzT.htm:



Source code for the exchange appears to be here https://github.com/btcexch1/ecoinstrader

IP address is 192.99.1.95.

Alternate web addresses are


(Note: the certificate will be from tntswap.com)

So, TNTswap is not an exchange at all, you just want people to deposit coins in your Cryptsy account. WTF? Seriously? This is one of the most blatant scams I have seen in quite a while. Please explain this, since it is completely different that you were claiming this "exchange" to be.


And PLEASE stop posting with multiple accounts, Coildcoiner. Everyone knows that there is one person running this scam.

Ok we all are coldcoiner then what ?

Already told you we are not able to stop you from assuming what ever you want.

Finally. Thank you for admitting that you are Coldcoiner. Now, what is your explanation of the revelation that your TNTswap exchange is nothing more than a scam to get people to deposit funds into your Cryptsy accounts?

This guy is a GAW/Paycoin scam victim who has decided to try to do to others what was done to him. Stay away from this coin and everything that Coldcoiner and his sockpuppet accounts TNTswap, and Wunkbone are involved in.

Some random unidentified guy in India, associated with known scammer Josh Garza. Seems legit.

786  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ ANN ] TNTSWAP.COM [ TransitCoin Exchange ] on: June 02, 2015, 12:33:03 AM
Hey, Coldcoiner, can you get Fuck You Coin on your fake exchange that is actually just Cryptsy addresses where you want people to send coins to you?

Here is what this "exchange" actually is. Just a scammer trying to get people to send coins to his Cryptsy address:

There is going to be ~$5 Billion worth of escrow needed to cover the new TNT coin purchases, so I would think there needs to be some expansion in escrow service providers.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066969.0

Escrow option:

Finalize the escrow the buyer want to use ( only trusted escrow service will be accepted )===> inform us how many coins u want to buy ==> we will send the coins to escrow and buyer will send the BTC to Escrow===> Escrow will hold the fund equal to 1$/coin for 3 months. :-) ( If the buyer want to sell back the coin they can contact escrow for the same and get back the funds by giving back the coins he bought and stake generated)


Note: Only buy coin using escrow. Else don't buy at all.


He is totally cereal. No really, cereally. Here he explains the operation a bit more clearly:

Here is Wunkbone admitting that TNTswap "exchange" is a scam. The asshole literally laughs when confronted with the evidence that TNTswap is simply a scam to get people to deposit coins in his Cryptsy account:

Who pays for the escrow service? If all coins are purchased through escrow, where exactly is the dumping of staked coins happening? If you can use or dump this coin, that means it must be tradable on exchanges. If it is being traded on exchanges, that means that coins are being bought and sold without escrow. Nothing you are saying makes any sense. If funds to purchase TNT coins are sent to you, what is stopping YOU from just keeping those funds and disappearing before you send it to the escrow service? Who are you? Where are you (India)? Why are you pretending to be multiple people, when it is obvious you are Coldcoiner from Hashtalk?

Also: Have you found that address of the 10,000 XPY bounty yet? Still waiting. Prove that you actually have these coins or remove all mention of the bounty, apologize for wasting people's time, and remove any insinuation that this fake bounty proves that your exchange is secure.

P.S: The person having trouble with the English language is you, not me, so please give that bullshit a break.


R u mentally retarded several times it was cleared that:

The user will send the fund to escrow they prefer and escrow will keep the funds.   and keep in mind none of the user will choose us for escrow they will choose btcpop or escrow.ms or other escrow service they like.

Either you are mentally retarded or spreading FUD so all your further post will be ignored

So, it has come to light that TNTswap is not an exchange at all, you just want people to deposit coins in your Cryptsy account. WTF? You have some explaining to do. Let us know how you are going to explain that your exchange is nothing more than you wanting people to deposit coins in your Cryptsy account. And, your explanation of how the escrow is going to work is bullshit. Answer the questions. Who pays the escrow fee? If ALL coins are purchased through escrow, how do people dump them, as you say can be done? How can the coin be used if all purchases are done through escrow? The coin is either traded on exchanges, or it isn't. Please answer the questions and stop being an asshole and attacking people.


Now he is refusing to prove that they are in possession of 10,000 XPY as they are claiming to be offered as a bounty for checking their security. This is the most worthless bunch of chumps to launch an XPY scam in quite a while.

Apparently they just store the coins on cryptsy and process withdrawals manually.



PJagaQFptPkmHQjHg3Czhg7pRiUAcVfwzT

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PJagaQFptPkmHQjHg3Czhg7pRiUAcVfwzT.htm:



Source code for the exchange appears to be here https://github.com/btcexch1/ecoinstrader

IP address is 192.99.1.95.

Alternate web addresses are


(Note: the certificate will be from tntswap.com)

WTF? Seriously? This is a blatant scam, and means that everything that has been stated about TNTswap is a brazen fucking lie.

 Grin

And here is Wunkbone admitting that he is actually Hashtalk member Coldcoiner, along with his other sockpuppet account here, TNTswap:

This was brought up:


Now he is refusing to prove that they are in possession of 10,000 XPY as they are claiming to be offered as a bounty for checking their security. This is the most worthless bunch of chumps to launch an XPY scam in quite a while.

Apparently they just store the coins on cryptsy and process withdrawals manually.



PJagaQFptPkmHQjHg3Czhg7pRiUAcVfwzT

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PJagaQFptPkmHQjHg3Czhg7pRiUAcVfwzT.htm:



Source code for the exchange appears to be here https://github.com/btcexch1/ecoinstrader

IP address is 192.99.1.95.

Alternate web addresses are


(Note: the certificate will be from tntswap.com)

So, TNTswap is not an exchange at all, you just want people to deposit coins in your Cryptsy account. WTF? Seriously? This is one of the most blatant scams I have seen in quite a while. Please explain this, since it is completely different that you were claiming this "exchange" to be.


And PLEASE stop posting with multiple accounts, Coildcoiner. Everyone knows that there is one person running this scam.

Ok we all are coldcoiner then what ?

Already told you we are not able to stop you from assuming what ever you want.

Finally. Thank you for admitting that you are Coldcoiner. Now, what is your explanation of the revelation that your TNTswap exchange is nothing more than a scam to get people to deposit funds into your Cryptsy accounts?

This guy is a GAW/Paycoin scam victim who has decided to try to do to others what was done to him. Stay away from this coin and everything that Coldcoiner and his sockpuppet accounts TNTswap, and Wunkbone are involved in.

Some random unidentified guy in India, associated with known scammer Josh Garza. Seems legit.
787  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 02, 2015, 12:25:22 AM
Wow. And Wunkbone and TNTswap were pretending that they were not Coldcoiner sockpuppets:



That is even Coldcoiner's avatar image on Hashtalk.


https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37882/ann-tntswap-com
788  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 01, 2015, 11:35:58 PM
Man, I think I m getting a little Anti-Social. I haven't been banned from a forum in like a month, I need to get out there more.  Grin
789  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: tntswap.com official thread ( support and discussion ) on: June 01, 2015, 11:29:31 PM
INR market Added to the tntswap.com within 24 hours we will activate the deposit feature and you can start trading. Thanks.


Will that market also use Cryptsy wallets for deposits?

What can possibly be more secure than depositing your coins into a Cryptsy account belonging to some random guy in India who refuses to identify himself? 100% secure No, that is like 100 Garzillion% Secure!
790  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 01, 2015, 11:08:26 PM


https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37969/the-death-of-paycoin Archive: https://archive.is/HANJL

Good day to you all,

First let me say that if you came to this thread to see FUD or an annihilation of character, you are mistaken. Nor is this a short clever post to poke fun, make light of, or insult with a quick joke and then a good night. If you have the patience and time to honor me by reading, do so. If not, be blessed and have a great day anyway. What you will read is simply my perspective as a XPY supporter, and potential crypto victim.

The Death of Paycoin - My personal story...

I (and my brothers that began this journey with me) am like many of you here. I trusted in a vision that GAW and Josh laid out and began purchasing very early on--early days of black widows war machines and vault breakers. And throughout the process, something was inevitably wrong with my order. Either it didn't show up, or there was no information on PSU's or we would receive countless hardware errors while mining. In fact, my first two months involved with GAW were essentially a nightmare. After an onsite visit to GAW -- yes we ACTUALLY drove there and saw the facility first hand -- the promise of hashlets was revealed and we were on board.

We poured immense amounts of money and purchased at premium prices. My average hashlet price was over $40 even with all the "great deals" on the market. We had unfortunately missed the legendary $15 primes. And when we purchased we were assured there was a CAF, $20 floor, updates, investors, places to spend XPY, bill pay...it goes on and on and you all know better than I. Obviously you know what happens next in this story. All told, my losses alone approach the 100k mark. And so you know...I am middle class/hard working/honest/never cheat/blue collar man that could have finally built his man cave, finished saving for my son's college tuition, helped countless family members, or saved for my retirement with that money. I am not a millionaire investor with disposable wealth. Now my wife and I are living check to check, looking for honest and fruitful ways to pay down this debt I have accrued without -- get this-- selling a single XPY in order to protect this community and others like me. (How reckless of me would it be to dump and ask you all to stay behind holding the bag...sound familiar?)

So why bring up this story and share some of what I have seen? No, I am not looking for pity nor am I looking for alms.

First I want to make clear that I am in no way an economist, crypto expert or financial specialist. I am a college educated man that tries to think often about anything i am involved with. And I wanted you all to know that I haven't sold a single XPY. Some of you here are experts and can find my XPY addresses and do some digging. You will discover that I am missing some XPY. Ask Pex Peppers, or ZERO2CASH or countless other I have purchased their goods from or simply given my XPY away to, to try and help in some way. And the reason I want you to know this the actual heart of this thread. As I am not a programmer, crypto specialist, have financial expertise in any way, I need to find other ways to contribute to the health of this coin and community. Here's what i discovered.

At this point, there continues to be finger pointing and fighting, accusations and mistrust. Ironically...FUD. Josh says this and Team XPY says that...law suits, counter law suits...it's never ending. But I want you to reflect on something for a few minutes if you can, remembering that I have lost much just as you have. The success of this coin was never going to be contingent on leadership or development alone. The genius of this project was in getting a critical mass of bodies -- namely YOU -- to believe in this project enough to have people waiting to use and spend XPY once it hit the markets and once the innovations were in place to spend our coin like real currency.

Now I realize that sounds obvious, but if you're already thinking that, slow down! You went too fast! Stop for a moment and think about XPY's greatest asset...Y-O-U. You are the reason it was born, developed, used, traded, fought over, sued over, argued over, banned over, threatened over, FUD-ed over...etc. Because you made it here, it was worth while to fight for it, to hoard and want it because you were willing to put your hard earned BTC and or cash or credit to make this thing valuable. My question is: Why have you forgotten this?

It doesn't matter who's team you are on, or whom you believe - Josh or Team XPY. Look at the reality in which were are currently in and you will discover what needs to be done. Josh, for all his innovating and posturing has gone. We know he's lied about many things and has not been honest about others. We know there are mysteries about the CAF and other projects, but here's the startling truth-- none of that matters because he is no longer around or in control. Furthermore, his track record with this community has been proven to be dismal and thus we cannot confide in him anything any longer. That leaves Team XPY.

I know what you are thinking...you are an unabashed Team XPY supporter and you came here to write under false pretenses. Furthermore, there's really no choice in support when all thats left is Team XPY. Allow me to respond to your hypothetical question. Firstly, I am not part of Team XPY and you can ask any of those guys if I am. They will tell you no. Secondly, you are correct. There is not much of a choice. Team XPY, for the most part, are in control. So we cannot "un-choose" them even if we wanted to. But let me ask you an important question: Why would you want to un-choose them?

Have you forgotten what XPY's greatest asset is already? You just read it above a moment ago. You are XPY's best hope and asset. XPY flourishes when you get behind it. XPY has a chance when you stick around to defend it. It doesn't matter who is running XPY at the moment. Team XPY is what we have. Josh is gone and has taken our money. Focus on that. If we want to recoup our losses then we need to come together as a community. We need to come together as a community. We may not all get along, nor agree with one another, or even like one another, but one thing is for certain -- We need to come together as a community. Divided we fall and fail. And worse still, someone walks away with my kids college fund, my man cave I've been dreaming about for years or your, swimming pool, or retirement, or rent money or credit, or your wedding gift etc...

Do not allow what misfortunes bad leadership and dishonesty cost us, to prevent you/me from coming together and reviving this coin and our losses. Do Not Let It. We must come together as a community. If Team XPY is leading then let them. Demand from them excellence but help them along the way. Those of you with knowledge, apply to be part of their team. Those of you who can program, write something for them or offer your assistance. Calling All Trolls!! You are all good at poking and prodding and writing and posting and "meme-ing." Why aren't we asking our pro-trollers who have gotten burned by GAW and Josh to post like crazy all over the inter webs to begin to accept XPY -- even at $.10 USD. That would give us an opportunity to spend some XPY, raise the price and literally "buy" time for the programmers to develop something worth while.

At the end of the day, this XPY project goes as far as this community will take it. Not a step further. Please remember that. Think about a way you can contribute, but most importantly, do not abandon XPY the way Josh has. When you say you are part of this community, then be here and promote all things XPY even if you disagree with them, A disagreement does not warrant an abandonment or dismantling, only discussion on how it can be improved or better represented. I believe the current leadership is at least amenable to that. Then let us start building what we hope this coin could be. I am too far in to be able to cut my losses and leave. I am asking you to do the same. Support your coin and XPY. Stop supporting sides or groups, only those who have XPY's long term health, well being and resurrection in mind.

As for Josh: He has said himself that he is gone. Whether that is true or not or whether the "Mr.Ceo" handle is actually him or not does not matter. Again -- Does Not Matter. Here's why...he has not appeared AND it looks as if he might be gone for a while. Forget him. When, if he returns at all, he will likely do so to pump the price with an announcement to dump more XPY as he has done in the past. I will gladly be wrong for the following. If he does make an announcement and actually delivers something for once, then we All win because we all hold and have XPY. If he comes here to pump and dump, ignore him, like one does a temper tantric child. We know his tricks and lets not fall for them. The more he pumps the price, the better for us in the long run. In my opinion, people that are under as much scrutiny and investigation cannot afford to make themselves available for fear of incriminating themselves further.

As for Team XPY: they are still here and working. Do not forget your differences with them because what you think about this community matters and as leaders, they must at least hear you out. But what i am asking for is for you to put aside your differences for a moment. Give them a chance to produce and work and concentrate with our full support the way Josh once had our full support. Along the way, they will stop to hear what our concerns are for they must have learned from some if not all of Josh's mistakes. Give them the fervor of this community's full support and see what they might be able to accomplish with that. What other option is there? If we do not, trust me when I say this project will fail.

You are the most important asset to this community and Paycoin needs this community to rally and come together.

Lastly, as if I haven't said enough, allow me to add this indulgence. My favorite bible verse is 1 Corinthians 13. Living anywhere in the world where there are Christians you are bound to have at least heard something of how this verse goes. If you are not a faith based person then just have a little more patience with me and allow me to share.

1 Corinthians 13 New International Version (NIV)

*13 If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.

4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.*

I wanted to focus on the part where it says love does not boast and is not proud. I know we are hurting, spiritually, emotionally, intellectually and financially, but please do not let those hurts make this community one of boasters too proud to admit it. Set down your pride and come with your gifts and intellects, positivity and spirit in order to revive our coin. We need your humility and willingness to make this work. If we can find a way to make that possibility come to fruition, I am certain Paycoin and this community will succeed.

Paycoin can and will only decease when you abandon it...not any other way. Please do not allow this to be the death of Paycoin

I wish you all the best fortunes and blessings. I used to always sign off with I hope to see you at the top. That wish for you has not changed. Anyone willing to engage or contribute, please do so. Post here or at talk.paycoin. I have the same handle there too though not the same reputation! I welcome all opinions if it means that you will stay here to promote our coin and not tear it down. Please consider kindly and carefully what I have written. It may be the final key to making Paycoin a success.

Be well and be blessed,
jv

"Love never fails" Corinthians 13
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I have to admit, I did not make it through 2 or 3 paragraphs before I gave up on that idiocy from an idiotic Paycoined Bagholder.
791  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 01, 2015, 10:43:16 PM
I am going by memory here, but isn't White City OR just over the border from ID, where a certain known serial Crypto  scammer resides? COINcidence?

Nevermind, White City is over by Medford. I recognized the name, but confused it with Baker City over on the east side of OR. Done a fair amount of gold mining in both of those areas.
792  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 01, 2015, 10:37:55 PM
What the fuck ever, Ikeboy. Have fun playing your asshole semantics games. The fact is that the way Market Capitalization of Crypto currency is done is not at all indicative of what they are actually worth.
793  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 01, 2015, 10:32:08 PM
Uh oh...


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/cryptsy/xpybtc

56 BTC on the Buy Book right now.



So, a supposed $1.2 Million coin has a total buy support of $12,000 on the books, which would make it plummet 98% in value. They really need to do something about how the market cap is calculated, that is ridiculous. The coin is worth what people will pay, and right now the entire lot of coins is worth MAYBE ~$15,000-$20,000 in total buy support on all exchanges.

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/paycoin2/

Do you know what market cap means? You can't report a "different" market cap, at best they could use different metrics.

Yes, I understand what Market Capitalization means. The way that it is calculated for Crypto coins is not indicative of the actual market value in the slightest. The lazy way that it is currently is done means that if someone creates a coin with 5 Billion premined coins and sells one for $20, the Market Cap would be listed as $100 Billion. This is obviously bullshit. To calculate an actual Market Capitalization value would mean including the amount currently invested, along with available supply, and current market support in the form of Buy Bids, rather than just saying X is the last price one was bought for and multiplying X by the amount of coins in existence.  Get a fucking grip, Ikeboy.
794  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: tntswap.com official thread ( support and discussion ) on: June 01, 2015, 09:30:07 PM
There is no argument. You are being asked some very serious questions about the trust based "exchange" you are implementing, and you refuse to answer. Anyone with any common sense at all can figure out that you are a fucking scammer. If you are not, please explain why your supposed unhackable exchange is nothing but a Cryptsy address? Why do you refuse to identify yourself?
795  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: tntswap.com official thread ( support and discussion ) on: June 01, 2015, 09:26:16 PM
Question: Why is your supposed unhackable "exchange" nothing more than a Cryptsy address?
796  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: tntswap.com official thread ( support and discussion ) on: June 01, 2015, 09:20:42 PM
I guess you think you are funny or something. If you have no intentions of answering questions about your exchange that is based solely on people trusting you, then why are you even here?

Question: Why is your "exchange" nothing but a Cryptsy address that you want people to send funds to?
797  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: tntswap.com official thread ( support and discussion ) on: June 01, 2015, 09:09:15 PM
This entire enterprise is based on trusting one person- YOU, and you are demonstrating that you have no integrity at all and prefer to play childish games instead of answering important questions about your enterprise.

Are you going to answer any questions or not?
798  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: tntswap.com official thread ( support and discussion ) on: June 01, 2015, 09:00:50 PM


Are you done throwing your tantrum yet? Are you going to answer any of the questions or not?

This was brought up:


Now he is refusing to prove that they are in possession of 10,000 XPY as they are claiming to be offered as a bounty for checking their security. This is the most worthless bunch of chumps to launch an XPY scam in quite a while.

Apparently they just store the coins on cryptsy and process withdrawals manually.



PJagaQFptPkmHQjHg3Czhg7pRiUAcVfwzT

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PJagaQFptPkmHQjHg3Czhg7pRiUAcVfwzT.htm:



Source code for the exchange appears to be here https://github.com/btcexch1/ecoinstrader

IP address is 192.99.1.95.

Alternate web addresses are


(Note: the certificate will be from tntswap.com)

So, TNTswap is not an exchange at all, you just want people to deposit coins in your Cryptsy account. WTF? Seriously? This is one of the most blatant scams I have seen in quite a while. Please explain this, since it is completely different that you were claiming this "exchange" to be.


And PLEASE stop posting with multiple accounts, Coildcoiner. Everyone knows that there is one person running this scam.

Ok we all are coldcoiner then what ?

Already told you we are not able to stop you from assuming what ever you want.

Finally. Thank you for admitting that you are Coldcoiner. Now, what is your explanation of the revelation that your TNTswap exchange is nothing more than a scam to get people to deposit funds into your Cryptsy accounts?
799  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 01, 2015, 08:42:50 PM
Uh oh...


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/cryptsy/xpybtc

56 BTC on the Buy Book right now.



So, a supposed $1.2 Million coin has a total buy support of $12,000 on the books, which would make it plummet 98% in value. They really need to do something about how the market cap is calculated, that is ridiculous. The coin is worth what people will pay, and right now the entire lot of coins is worth MAYBE ~$15,000-$20,000 in total buy support on all exchanges.

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/paycoin2/
800  Economy / Services / Re: [ WTS ] VPS on: June 01, 2015, 07:29:28 PM
When are you going to answer the questions about TNTswap actually being nothing but a Cryptsy address? I am completely shocked that you have the audacity to fucking LAUGH when your whole operation is exposed as being a blatant scam. You can expect these questions to get posted repeatedly in every one of your threads promoting this TNT/TNTswap scam until you answer them.

Who pays for the escrow service? If all coins are purchased through escrow, where exactly is the dumping of staked coins happening? If you can use or dump this coin, that means it must be tradable on exchanges. If it is being traded on exchanges, that means that coins are being bought and sold without escrow. Nothing you are saying makes any sense. If funds to purchase TNT coins are sent to you, what is stopping YOU from just keeping those funds and disappearing before you send it to the escrow service? Who are you? Where are you (India)? Why are you pretending to be multiple people, when it is obvious you are Coldcoiner from Hashtalk?

Also: Have you found that address of the 10,000 XPY bounty yet? Still waiting. Prove that you actually have these coins or remove all mention of the bounty, apologize for wasting people's time, and remove any insinuation that this fake bounty proves that your exchange is secure.

P.S: The person having trouble with the English language is you, not me, so please give that bullshit a break.


R u mentally retarded several times it was cleared that:

The user will send the fund to escrow they prefer and escrow will keep the funds.  and keep in mind none of the user will choose us for escrow they will choose btcpop or escrow.ms or other escrow service they like.

Either you are mentally retarded or spreading FUD so all your further post will be ignored

So, it has come to light that TNTswap is not an exchange at all, you just want people to deposit coins in your Cryptsy account. WTF? You have some explaining to do. Let us know how you are going to explain that your exchange is nothing more than you wanting people to deposit coins in your Cryptsy account. And, your explanation of how the escrow is going to work is bullshit. Answer the questions. Who pays the escrow fee? If ALL coins are purchased through escrow, how do people dump them, as you say can be done? How can the coin be used if all purchases are done through escrow? The coin is either traded on exchanges, or it isn't. Please answer the questions and stop being an asshole and attacking people.


Now he is refusing to prove that they are in possession of 10,000 XPY as they are claiming to be offered as a bounty for checking their security. This is the most worthless bunch of chumps to launch an XPY scam in quite a while.

Apparently they just store the coins on cryptsy and process withdrawals manually.



PJagaQFptPkmHQjHg3Czhg7pRiUAcVfwzT

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PJagaQFptPkmHQjHg3Czhg7pRiUAcVfwzT.htm:



Source code for the exchange appears to be here https://github.com/btcexch1/ecoinstrader

IP address is 192.99.1.95.

Alternate web addresses are


(Note: the certificate will be from tntswap.com)

WTF? Seriously? This is a blatant scam, and means that everything that has been stated about TNTswap is a brazen fucking lie.

 Grin
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