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2761  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Turkish Super League 2022/23 Season on: July 30, 2022, 03:11:56 AM
It is really very early to start the league in Turkey. Even in the north of the country, temperatures are very high and it is quite humid everywhere. It is too hard to play a decent game. Season could start at least 3 weeks later, in my opinion. Even Istanbul is too hot for even 21:45 games. And I agree with what you have written, no team seems ready now. We will probably see very unexpected results indeed. I don't expect much from the big three also. First 8-10 weeks will be quite unexpected. And big teams need more transfers now. But in this economic situation, it will be very hard for every team.
Yeah, right now things are not good for start of this season but sadly all leagues are going to have early start of this season due to Qatar world cup which is going to play in November and December, so they want to adjust their time as well which is also very important for them. I was watching few games which are happening in different countries and feeling it's still hot and players are feeling problem due to this all, but they have to settle this for this season and next season could be again on usual time and all will be able to have their best.

In last two seasons we have too many difficulties for many clubs even top ranked clubs are also suffering with economic situation and world is also suffering badly due to Russia, Ukraine conflict which is having big impact on all clubs hopefully we will be in better position in next season.
2762  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Futures Trading is not for everyone on: July 29, 2022, 10:30:42 PM
If you are a crypto trader using spot I advice you should stick with it till you become a professional trader, just because you start futures and win three rounds of short or long buys doesn't mean you are officially a pro trader....

I thought I was a pro coming from spot trading, I used 300$ which I planned to use to DCA into a project but a man can dream, my first attempt was successful, which net me 50$ and the second was 100$, the third round was 40$ and I close the trade for the day...

On the second day I lost everything, I now officially accept that I am far from been a pro trader, at least that's what I thought 🤔.  
For some of us here who already have an experience, they still find it hard to understand everything in spot trading so it was surprising how a newbie can start in futures trading directly. It could be that they are smart for them to understand things easily? And what's more surprising is they manage to win three rounds or more but of course they are not pro yet but being a pro takes time and a lot of experience.

The moral that we can get on your own story op is don't be confident enough just because your previous attempts are successful and have gone smoothly because there will be times where we can get unlucky so always secure most of your profit and use only amounts which you can easily afford to lose.
2763  Economy / Speculation / Re: Your most realistic ATH prediction for the next cycle? on: July 29, 2022, 10:20:42 PM
You’re prediction of 185K is fair and probably most of the member here will agree base on the recent price behavior of Bitcoin on previous cycle. The previous ATH before 69K is around 20K so bu doing an estimate growth, the multiplier of growth we looking for is more or less x3.5 of the ATH which means the next psychological target for new ATH will be above 100K and 200K mark. Price prediction above that range is already insane and not logical at all but who knows? We are all lunatics Bitcoin believer when we dream Bitcoin price will go above 20K when the price is less than a grand.  Cheesy
100k is a common prediction ever since so why not 185k? Once we are now at those levels, 200k or more is now going to be easier to achieve and will now be the new target by the people. Price prediction above
 200k like for example 300 to 400k is still realistic in my opinion. In case you didn't know, we have a thread here last time which shows the price predictions of those so called experts.

If only you saw that you will say that those are the ones who are insane because some of their predictions can range to 500k up to 1 million u.s dollars. I didn't know if what are their basis on why they can say that because there are no extra information.
2764  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 29, 2022, 09:59:21 PM
we are talking about the poor performances by the Pakistani bowlers in this test match but they were the same team with similar bowlers who won the first test match against Srilanka.
I think the batsmen were more responsible in this loss as they scored too low a total in the first innings which caused the pressure to pile up and affected their batting and bowling performances.
After winning first test match by big margin most of the players were overconfidence with this captaincy was also not good as suddenly Babar doing some blunders which were helpful for home team in first inning and fielding is also having troubles for them for years, but sadly they have never done any positive change in this department which is big dilemma for them and their selectors.

Sri Lankan's are good learners, and they settle their mistakes which help them, and they were able to fight back with now they have again third spot in League table if they are able to beat New Zealand then surely they could be on good spot which will help them for having good end in this test championship.

Now for reaching into last two, a hard target for Pakistan as they need to win all five matches which is not easy job because current England team is doing good job with red ball.
2765  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The right time to invest on: July 29, 2022, 09:48:50 PM
The right time to invest in crypto is always during the dip, and trust me that's best tactics some traders uses to purchase all these top coins that they miss out when they were pumping. But some still get the wrong part of it due to FOMO and buy during the pump and lose everything when the coin hits it's ATL. Definitely devastating to see such these days because the market is currently dump and experiencing Hugh losses like that doesn't really helps matter. The right and appropriate time to invest is during the bear period and hold and wait for the bull to click then you sell, isn't it simple?
The problem to some of us is that they are still greedy even if the market already moves in the opposite direction because they think the price was still high and they said to their selves that they need to wait for more dips or for that real bottom to come. This is why some can miss the best opportunity.

There are also people like that who buys at high but there are some who got lucky because the price continued to rise instead of falling down. They then sell their coins for some profit but if ever they still got greedy and waited for more then that's already their problem. Buy low sell high seems simple but the truth is not all have the patience to wait for a long time only to see a real pump before they sell.
2766  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is the future of Bitcoin uncertain? on: July 29, 2022, 08:56:11 PM
What could be the state of Bitcoin in the future?

This is discussed all the time but I am asking this question because my elder brother said that after 2025 Bitcoin will not exist anymore and will be completely dead. He also said that after 2025 Bitcoin will not be mined so that Bitcoin will not be able to hold its own position.

So I would like to know from you how reasonable this statement is?
I know that there could be falls here and there on bitcoin, but the bottom we have seen here is the peak we saw in 2017 so it shouldn't be that shocking to think that bitcoin will go up over time. Like for example we will have a huge increase now after this drop, whatever the price becomes, 100k, 200k, don't know really but when we have another drop, it will be once again around 50k+ when it "drops", and that would be the key to our success.

If you buy at the top of a period, you will still be profitable on the bottom of the next. Just keep doing that and you will be making a huge amount of profit, only if you buy it.
2767  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: July 29, 2022, 08:38:04 PM
Haha, so there are still people who compare the new season to the preseason games? Wake up, guys. The Chelsea team is much better than Arsenal and Tottenham. They competed for the league title last season until January, when they lost steam due to COVID19, and they finished the campaign as semifinalists in the Champions League and winners of two domestic cups runner-up medal. Chelsea is a force to be reckoned with; they want the league this season.
No, I don't compare new season with Chelsea's friendly games, I know for a fact that Chelsea won't be a contender this season, just like last season. They have no chance to finish the league in Top 3. I can make any bet for you that it's not gonna happen. Chelsea is not even a minor threat to Liverpool or Arsenal, let alone Manchester City. They are lucky if they can pass Tottenham to be honest. I don't call Manchester United and Chelsea as league title contenders at all. They are nowhere near same level as Manchester City, which is the obvious favorite again.
There is no doubt we are going to have tough competition for top rank and this is not easy game for any club right now Chelsea is having few issues in last season and right now they are still having same because change of management is having serious trouble for them with Tuchel is already complaining about this, but new management is still not giving required funds which are not good for team and their performance in the future.
 
They have few quality players but after watching preparation from other English clubs look like they are far behind and can face serious problems because in current season we have good work in transfer market by Tottenham and Arsenal which are tough challenger for them and can put them out of top four race.
2768  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: There will be 1 billion crypto users by 2030 - research on: July 29, 2022, 07:06:21 PM
I also believe that these numbers will be achieved soon because if we say about eight years period then we can imagine how much growth the crypto market would witness.At current we already have millions of users in this space but for me 1 billion users would be soon within few years only
The first crypto which was bitcoin came out on 2009 and then after that many cryptos have followed up, so to sum it up, cryptos are now running for 13 years but it shows that the total number of crypto users are only 300 million.

I am thinking that if we will hit another 13 yrs, only 300 million more are going to be added so that will be over 600 million in total, therefore I can't really agree with you or to the op that by 2030 we can have 1 billion crypto users. We can't just say that cryptos are now more popular so it will now be easy to be adopted. Let us not forget that many people have been scammed and they now hate cryptos, also there are countries which are still banning cryptos.
2769  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rise of Streamers in Online Gambling on: July 29, 2022, 06:34:04 PM
There are actually quite a few streamers playing for their own money, but as my marketing experience. And I can also tell you that some streamers will have sponsors from online casino websites to invite them to play and make videos with free credits, and indirectly advertise it to attract subscribers and I am also happy to see it and indeed it will make people want to do it.
Maybe there are streamers which are sponsored and then after they have done their jobs, they will switch on their main account and gamble for real and maybe they have another streaming account only to stream their real game. While there are also streamers which don't have any sponsorship and only play using their own money.

It can be noticeable because their bankroll is not that big enough and also they are more careful with their moves. Seeing sponsored streamers play can entertain us not only because they are betting with bigger amounts and playing on a high risks games but also because of their awesome commentaries.
2770  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hardware wallet demand increases in 2022 bear market as exchange scramble on: July 29, 2022, 05:09:15 PM
In fact many of the crypto users in my circle are the one who use a non custodial wallet.
It makes sense to use these wallets since these are better than centralized ones but if the amount of crypto is anywhere more than $1000,
then I think it is better to invest a few dollars in buying a hardware wallet instead.
It is a one time investment after all.
I mean sure if you want to, but I do not see the point of it. My entire savings are in 3 places right now, one is binance, the biggest one, second is metamask which is technically good and allows you to do easily what you would normally be able to do yourself anyway, and lastly a tiny bit in electrum, nothing big there though, it is very small and could be hacked today and I wouldn't care, it would be scary to know I am hacked, but not to know I lost that small amount.

So, I never had the feel to buy a ledger or a trezor or anything like that, metamask type of stuff are understandable, but that’s about it, I do not think that physical ones are really needed.
2771  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Satoshi is not dead, what is he doing? on: July 29, 2022, 04:28:49 PM
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Wouldn’t you from time to time come back with another account, to make shure all goes the right way with the future development?
How exactly would he make sure that everything is going the right way in terms of Bitcoin development, even if he has an alt account here? No single entity has such power in a decentralized system that everybody contributes to, especially one that has many independent developers and thousands of independent nodes all across the globe.
The idea is that he doesn't have a centralized power to do anything, but he does have a huge huge huge influence. Hell even Elon has enough influence to change the prices a bit for some reason, have absolutely no clue why he does, but we can't deny that he does have that influence.

If Elon could say "Tesla sold all bitcoins it had" and drop the price, then I can assure that if Satoshi was alive or around, and he comes around and says "bitcoin failed my dream" or whatever, then we are going to see a much much bigger fall. Of course it is not going to happen because if he declined to talk so far, I have no reason to believe that he would do that now. Dude could have become the richest person alive, and didn't do anything about it.
2772  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling in Moderation, Pros can out weigh its Cons in Financial and Health? on: July 29, 2022, 01:52:11 PM
Gambling makes you happy unless if you always winning in it , but if you're not a pro and your just basing your luck on daily basis then i don't think you will be happy and it will become your stress reliever after all. Lol many people are frustrated in gambling and that's the truth, wherein these perspective is clearly for those who have good experienced in gambling only not the majority of all people who use to gamble.
So you are saying that you feel happy when you lose? Or maybe you are saying that you feel happy when you are entertained. For the rest of us, what can truly make us feel happy is when we win huge in gambling. We won't stop till we get it but if ever we got busted then fine we can still accept it.

You do not need to be a pro if your only goal to gamble is to relieve stress and you don't need a luck either but both of that are only required if you are playing for a profit. The only reason why people are frustrated in gambling is because of their expectations that most of the times cant be met but only if they learn to lower it then they can feel a lot better.
2773  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What do you guys think is the best crypto signals group on Telegram? on: July 29, 2022, 12:22:16 PM
Nope! I am not part of such groups. My friend recently got scammed. I stopped using telegram since then. I think, if you want to be interested in trading groups. Join some good communities or forums. You will get better people there as they are moderated.
I don't think telegram is at fault here. Telegram in terms of applications is what Bitcoin is to the real currency. It's not moderated and regulated but has its own advantages because it serves freedom just like Bitcoin.

There are many scam groups on telegram you are right but that only means we have to be more careful and mature when dealing with people and must not trust any groups blindly. I am sorry your friend got scammed but it's similar to getting scammed in the metro by a stranger.

It has been said many times that these telegram groups are mainly created for scamming people out of their funds and don't know how you can trust them but they are promoting some shitcoins under pump dump scheme so stay away from them if you want to save your money and if not join these groups.
Right and if someone actually believes that legit and true advice/signals can be given out on telegram then they are fooling none but themselves.
2774  Economy / Gambling / Re: Action 24/7 - The Premier Casino, Sportsbook, and Racebook on: July 28, 2022, 10:29:32 PM
Welcome to Bitcointalk.org

Another sports bookie. Before one getting to try your services, you would need to tame the wild stag in the forum. And they are not easy to tame. Its about building a reputation here. This is how to compete with the established bookies. Also I couldn't find the registration link. Maybe because I'm using my tablet.
This isn't just a sport book but it's clearly written in the title that it's also a casino and then a racebook but racebook seriously?Didn't know there's such thing and it's also separated to a sportsbook? Because in most sportsbook they already have racing games on them. Indeed that it's not easy to tame people here because all of us here are wise.

We won't just try a new casino without a condition but there might be some who will get curious immediately especially if the gambling site offers something unique. There is no registration link but if you want to have an account here you need to contact the op. That is what I understand upon reading some comments.
2775  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is the bottom in for BTC? on: July 28, 2022, 10:14:37 PM
I am not 100% sure. This could be the bottom i.e at $20k - $22k or there could be one final capitulation to $13k for the final bottom.

Usually, BTC bottom is a drop down to 84% but again we have more awareness and adoption. From now on the drops might be smaller.

What do you guys think? Go with your gut
I think you are now too late for this. Most of us here are now talking about the pumps and not the dips or the bottom. Where you at when the price is falling down to 16k? But that should be the real bottom for btc because after that, the price did not drop anymore but it only became stable and then showed a small increase later on.

This current price we are in now may not be the true bottom but I think I still can consider this low so you are always welcome to buy it if you are planning. Don't wait for a more dip as it may not occur anymore. You once said that btc is now becoming more popular. In no time, many people are going to pour more money on here.
2776  Economy / Economics / Re: Social media, now looking more for business than for socializing. on: July 28, 2022, 09:54:51 PM
Do you think social media is now becoming more a place for business than socializing, Could it be as a result of digitalization and things moving online or more people now starting business online because of need to somehow generate income or another source of income for self to survive the economic situations which is becoming tougher?
For facebook yes but for i.g and twitter, not really. I guess that's because many people uses facebook but in facebook, they have this section called marketplace. That's a more appropriate place to place your business. There are buy and sell groups as well, that can be found inside the platform. This was mainly used before by business minded people before those marketplaces were invented.

Facebook is not only for business but you can still socialize with your friends, family and even strangers. The reasons that you state are right. Those are the reason on why many people are now doing business in social media but the covid 19 is what contributed a lot for this.
2777  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Bitcoin Going To Fall Below The Previous 20k ATH possible? on: July 28, 2022, 09:26:06 PM
I believe that the second half of 2022 will be positive, July is the start of a revival, prices rise from $18k to over $23k, investors earn more than 30% profit within a month if they buy when the price dips and sell now, but I suggest to keep buying, the opportunity for rising is very big and makes me optimistic that August will reach $40k.
The second half have started already by the time we enter the month of july. At the first few days/weeks there are no noticeable change in the price but recently, we saw that price break the 20k barrier. This may seem not much but this was still an improvement compared to those past months where the price only sits at 20k and sometimes going under than that.

The lowest we got this year was not 18k but it was 16k I think, so people that bought on that price are now earning more than 30% if ever they sell when the price touches 23k. There might be some who got greedy and refrain to sell thinking the rise will continue but it fell down again by some percent.
2778  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Looking forward to add exchange tokens to my portfolio on: July 28, 2022, 08:49:53 PM
What is the best exchange investment for a newbie? I am looking for an exchange either CEX or DEX token that's good for long term hold, I can only find BITGET and DODO, which one would you advice to go for?.. Already had BNB so no need to talk about BNB.
You admit that you are still a newbie but how come you already know those things? As a newbie you should start on the very basic coin first which was btc and maybe add some ethereum. These two coins should be your main priority before the others. Cex are being used the most compare to dexe's so you will have more success if you will also invest on cex tokens. You already have one there which is bnb.

You can also add token from kuckoin, I think that was called kcs. Houbi and ftx are I think have their own tokens as well, you can grab them too. Never heard of bitget but dodo, yes. Dodo was once a talk of the town but nowadays I rarely see an update with it.
2779  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Satoshi is not dead, what is he doing? on: July 28, 2022, 08:30:35 PM
After reading so many topics that discuss who satoshi could be and why he would leave bitcoin from one day to another it made me think: What is he doing these days? It is really unlikely that he never ever came back to the forum again, just to read and look at the progress. Also it seems likely that he had at least one alt account that may even be sill active.
If he is not dead then maybe he is observing us all and maybe he will appear on the right time or when bitcoin is really in a critical condition like it's falling on a very low price like under 5 USD.

The reason why is because he wanted us to be calm but if the opposite thing happens like if the value of bitcoin is increasing up to a price where no one can imagine then I don't think he will do the same thing because number one; he is already proud of his creations and to the people that patronized it, and there's no need for him to say it in public. Number two is; he might be dead already when that time comes or maybe some us of here. That is why is better to enjoy than to keep on questioning.
2780  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where is real pumps ? on: July 28, 2022, 07:29:47 PM
I think, no exchange or no coin gives you 100% -1000% profit. If it happens, everyone will invest to the coin or any exchange. I also trade in binance or other exchange, It is very hard to profit 100%-200% from any coin daily. If you hold for long term, then you can get a good profit.
Even if you are holding for the long term there is no guarantee that it will profit especially in the crypto market where a coin suffocates to survive more than a few months. Unless the coin is actually solving a real problem and has the metrics of a successful project, only then it will be profitable in the long term. When I think of long term investment in the current market, I cannot think of any coins apart from BTC, ETH, BNB & maybe SOL surviving more than a few years.

There are some NFT-based projects gaining a lot of momentum and hype but that's short-lived according to me because just like the ICO boom, this may come down quickly because of the large number of NFT coins being circulating now. Do all the research you want and it comes out that Bitcoin is still the far superior investment as compared to 99% of other coins out there.
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