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2161  Economy / Economics / Re: Bodyguards and security service Will be booming soon for sure on: December 17, 2022, 03:15:12 PM
Security will be only booming business for sure.
Speaking more about security and the safety of your cryptocurrency, Newbies should also be careful about people who will offer their services to help or provide assistance to them in securing their cryptocurrency. You shouldn't trust anyone offering services to teach you about how to secure your coins and asking for access to your noncustodial wallet. Your security should be your responsibility first.
I think it's okay to trust people whom you already know the most like for example your close friends and family members because you already know their attitude and you won't approach them if you think they are hiding something. Topics about wallet and on how to secure it are seem sensitive but we need to learn especially if we are only a newbie.

I agree about the OP that security are going to boom soon here in cryptos because there are so many hacks and frauds that have happened lately but I am not sure about the bodyguards. I think this can make sense in the real world. We don't need a bodyguard when we are only at our home and doing our business online.
2162  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin December price on: December 17, 2022, 02:51:33 PM
I am calling 25k for this month as the peak, I do not know if it will finish with that or just hit it and go down later on, but I call 25k to be possible. We already had too many months when it went down and I am not expecting it to keep going down more, which means that if I realized this, the market already realized it. So if we all know that it is unlikely for it to go down even more, then it means we all know the only direction left is to go up.

I know it is not going to be easy, but it is going to happen no matter how difficult it is. Lets realize the fact that bitcoin is at the bottom already, and the direction is up, and 25k is not too high to make it unrealistic.
Not looking good to be fair. I assumed that it would have at least some resemblance of something good, because we have dropped so much from the FTX news and now that news cycle is over I assumed that it would probably be a lot different and a lot better but by the looks of it I am guessing that it's not anything like that.

I hope that it will recover before the year ends and we end up with like 20k price and start the new year like that, but the possibility of 15k is looking more likely than the possibility of 20k for the time being. Right after FTX deal, media published a fake Binance news, and they are doing awesome and yet they are being branded as a bad place right now.
2163  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are the Whales Control bitcoin price? on: December 17, 2022, 11:10:43 AM
we all know no one can controls the bitcoin price because bitcoin isn't like bank, stock and valas. but if the whales owned 51% of bitcoin, can do it?. if happen, does decentralization not exist?
Both yes and no from me too. I think whales do not have the money you guys think that they do, news do change it, so whales can actually change it but basically by saying stuff and there is a difference to it. Imagine a market where billions and billions of dollars exchange hands everyday, I mean look at the crypto market and trading volume, when you see that do you really think that anyone has enough money to change anything in there? I think there is obviously nobody on earth that can.

You can buy 5 billion dollars worth of bitcoin OTC and not even move it a dime, but if you SAY you will buy 5 billion worth of it, it will move like crazy.
2164  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Next generations on bitcoin on: December 17, 2022, 05:49:02 AM
Does that mean new generations will have the motive to start bitcoin over again and start spreading the same way Facebook did? Starting from college students and get mass adopted later on?
That is basically what is going on with altcoins, are you not aware? There are a lot of people who were not part of the early part of bitcoin and try to join in on the newer altcoins in case they grow to be huge, like if something you got in when it was 10-20 million marketcap became 10 billion in marketcap, that is good enough forever for you, you will never need more money ever again. That is what people are banking on when they are investing into crappy shitcoins that come out everyday.

I personally feel like there is a good chance people will keep doing that, but forking bitcoin will not make the real one gone, it will just create another altcoin.
2165  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Too many chickens own BTC. Don't be a chicken, HODL! BE A LION. on: December 17, 2022, 05:00:30 AM
It's funny how many people say "why haven't you sold at 60k" when even they didn't know that 60k was going to be the top Smiley As I've said, HODL, less headaches.
As someone who has been holding for many years, and keep buying more, I dislike this analogy. I mean what's the point of calling our crypto friends chicken, what could we gain from it? I understand there is this underlying "be a lion" type of hype making involved, you want them to be hyped enough to want to be a lion and all that, but you just called their current state a chicken.

As long as you buy and sell, as long as you are involved, as long as you are interested, I feel like every person is a lion. The fact that they are not in fiat and they are interested in crypto is all the thing I need to call them a lion and support all of them the same.
2166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH whales buying MATIC. Price surge incoming? on: December 16, 2022, 08:38:02 PM
In the cryptocurrency market, the price of a digital currency can be influenced by many factors, including demand and supply, government policies, technological developments, and investor confidence. So, it cannot be predicted with certainty whether the price of a digital currency will rise or fall in a certain period of time. Preferably, before making any investment decisions, make sure to do enough research and consider the factors that might affect your investment. Always remember that investing in cryptocurrencies comes with a high level of risk and is not suitable for everyone. Never invest money that you can't afford to lose.
The unexpected stuff is the hardest part of it all. I mean it's clear that we are not going to end up expected a long term thing, it's not going to be just straight sailing, there will always be unexpected stuff and that's the part about it.

If there was no bad or good news then we would end up with something that will be profitable in the long run, because it will always go up, but because there are some news that changes constantly, that means we do end up with some troubles in the long run and keep the price low. That's an issue for sure, but we can't really end up with no news and that is something unavoidable for the time being and we have to learn to live with it.
2167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NFT ?? What do you think about it ? ? ? on: December 16, 2022, 06:41:04 PM
Friends, I present to your attention an NFT painting worth $ 11.8 million!!! Shocked Grin

Today's guest of our discussion topic is a picture from the cryptopunk collection! Dear friends, I ask you to love and favor. I suggest you evaluate this masterpiece. I think it's a first-class job


Not that I support it, or find it actually worth a lot. But, the idea is not that is is a good image, or a masterpiece, or even art but more about the fact that it is unique and rare. I know that it makes no sense to many people, it makes no sense to me neither but at least we should know why some people value it so high before we could be shocked by it as well.

The point of this image is not the fact that it is looking good, it is the fact that even if you use it, you are not the owner and NFT makes sure there is a real owner, and that means its very very unique, and even though I think it doesn't worth $11, I find it quite understandable if they really truly believe it.
2168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: When devs don't even know what they are doing on: December 16, 2022, 03:13:04 PM
Take a look at this crypto company called Bitcoin.com, the name itself have a lot to say but instead these people went and create their coin on Ethereum  Grin Grin Grin

Can we say they don't know what they are doing? How can you name your project Bitcoin dot come and create token on Ethereum? I belief that Bitcoin dot come should have make their own bitcoin coin.
There are a lot of people who are making a new token and they are ending up with a big loss because they have no idea. I have to also say that there is a good amount of people who are not devs, not designers, not marketers, they are nobodies with some money they found somewhere, even taking a loan, and they do a project.

I have met with a few of them, they have ended up with meeting people who knew nothing about it and took a 3-4 thousand dollars loan and they ended up with something that meant nothing and horrible and that caused them to eventually not even finish the project because that money wasn't enough for anything and that's the problem.
2169  Economy / Speculation / Re: How we know btc not going to 100$ ?? on: December 16, 2022, 01:05:51 PM
What guarantees we have btc not going very low like 100$ ??
Can btc go Even like 50$
Becouse everybody knows that Market Will crash hard soon very bearish out look now for btc
If today btc start falling what price is good to buy ?
It can fall to 1000$ or lower why not ? What's stop btc to fall down like 20$-50$ ?
What are you talking about? It seems you write without knowing anything about crypto. Do you want to talk about Altcoins? If so, specifically which coin? But you repeat several times about BTC, you automatically talk about BTC and nothing else. Even 9 years ago the price of BTC has reached $ 500 to $ 800 dollars.
That is a troll, do not really care about it. Think about the potential and the technical possibility and respond accordingly if you want, or just say straight out no like me because he will keep on starting topics like this. Of course it is not possible, yeah if we are talking about technical part of it then it could be 10 cents as well, is that technically possible then it is but if we are talking about likely situation then we are talking about something impossible.

Bitcoin will not be even 1000 dollars anymore, I highly doubt we would even see anything under 10k anymore, from here on out we have seen the bottom and rest is just going up from here.
2170  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin high prediction 2023? on: December 16, 2022, 12:45:42 PM
Is this an expert advise? We have to be guided with this little rally and resistance that bitcoin has done since the last week. It is true that the expectation for bitcoin this month to drop has not been felt but notwithstanding we don't have to jump in all in all for the expectation for bull early, at least DCA is still a better pattern to hodl.
No, that's not the expert's way of saying that "after $20,000 bitcoin won't stop" This seems to be in doubt.

Bitcoin is still not strong enough to rally and can only hold resistance but the price is back down meaning that with the pattern of resistance still not strong enough we are still at the lowest support point at the moment, you need to know that market expectations are still not strong enough to stop the decline so we have to stay big wait for this.

True DCA and Dips are still a great way to hold bitcoin, as strong as we can be we have to hold on and strong run buying bitcoin at any cost.
Resistance is still there and the market is not acting the way it should towards how we are right now. Let me put it this way, as soon as we start to do some good, there are some news that will put some doubt in peoples minds and the price goes down. What does this tell us?

There are some high upper people that has a lot of money, but not as much as us, so they are using us to make the price go down, if they wanted to drop it themselves financially, it wouldn't be possible because their money is not enough, but pay a few million to bribe some people and buy some media and you can in still doubt in peoples minds and they will start selling for you, in tune of billions.
2171  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Too much uncertanity here it got be more sure here what i say on: December 16, 2022, 09:12:06 AM
The whales control the market? If whales are losing, do you know how significant the loss could be? Bitcoin market is also too strong for whales to manipulate
By considering the volume of every exchange, we may assume that bitcoin market is stronger but in my opinion it is still vulnerable for whales' manipulation. Because, due to its decentralized nature, I believe traders do get panic out of any FUD quicker than other market traders. This works in favour of whales to manipulate the direction of market on their own benefits.

If i were you i would have been buying gradually because that is the only way i think you could take back from the whales
Honestly it would be highly possible to make the whales powerless by wide adaption. It has been long discussed fact that whales will lose control over the time when more small individuals take part in bitcoin market. It is a matter of time and in my opinion, mid to small whales are not in controlling action any more.
2172  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Beginner Averaging future trading. on: December 16, 2022, 08:30:55 AM
i have started a plain to shorting BTC at different levels i start my trade with 3$ at the price of 17091$ but market keeps going higher then i take another trade for averaging my opening position at 17269 with another 3$ and then i open another short trade at 17455$ and now market is going higher and higher and my liquidation price is 2090$ which is not far but i tomorrow deposit more money for take liquidation price further away , And make some more short DCA ,
So guys what are your thoughts and advices .
I never encourage derivative markets due to its high risk factors. Imagine what is you would have been buying when bitcoin was trading around $30k and then $20k and finally around $16k levels. Yeah, you can simply keep holding and I am sure you will get at least 2x profits before end of 2024. If your point is immediate or monthly profits, I have answer for that as well.

If you focus on instant profits then you you should not have opened this topic because you must have plans before shorting bitcoins for the situations like market goes against you. When you do not have concrete plans for what to do when market moves as per your expectation and against your expectation, there are 90% of chances to lose your capital. I am sorry for saying that but fact is open. Switch to long term holding and enjoy massive profits over the time.
2173  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is The Gambling Industry Part Of The Domino Effect That Happens In The Market on: December 15, 2022, 10:05:22 PM
Even well-known sites are not spared from accusation or problems from gamblers. Regardless it is proven or not but there is always a risk about any online casino.

Therefore we must remain wise in using casinos and may not make this casino a place to store assets. Casinos are generally centralized, and the biggest fear is that they will cheat the gamblers in the end especially when the casino does not have a good reputation.
It is definitely something that every casino will be hit with, how they respond is the important part. I mean if they respond with proof that there was something wrong for sure, or they respond with fixing, then that is a good casino and there is no problem with that.

However, if they respond with something terrible like not caring about what they are doing, that would be a bad deal and I doubt that it would be solved anytime soon, they will be known as a bad casino, or a scammer. This is why what happens is not the issue, how they respond to it is the clear indicator of a casino being good or not and that matters a lot more than people think.
2174  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is the smart choice not the entire crypto industry on: December 15, 2022, 07:28:03 PM
The blockchain and cryptocurrency market is an extensive market. I don't see any reason why the presence of altcoins is the major drawback for Bitcoin's global image if investors themselves educate themselves about cryptocurrency investment.
I know you see altcoin as a drawback for BTC's positive global image due to some scam, rug pull, etc done by some altcoin team. However, this is expected in a market that is full of opportunity.
It's the investor that needs to wise up.
Blockchain is a technology and it used by Cryptocurrency. It is not a market but cryptos can be. Coins other than BTC doesn't affect BTC but it was the BTC rather that influence them. I am talking about the price there but in terms of reputation then maybe they can affect BTC. I don't know why they termed BTC as a safe haven when the truth is that it is not immune to some hazards including the crisis that the world is currently experiencing now.
Yes, blockchain is a technology, not a market. However, it is not only used by cryptocurrency because it's also an important technology to medical practitioners, banking institutions, security, etc.
I don't know others but when people like said BTC is a safe haven, I simply mean it is the best cryptocurrency investment but that doesn't it being the best won't experience some challenges and the crisis the world is currently experiencing now won't have had much impact on BTC if we're not in bearish season.
I feel like it is used mainly in crypto and that is a good enough reason. I am not saying that it is the only way to make money or anything, but blockchain is not really widely used in all other places, it is mainly used in these places and that's normal.

I feel like the best thing to do right now is to invest into things that have either good blockchain used by millions just like bitcoin, or if you want to invest into something new, then make sure that they have some improvement and something better with their blockchain, something that has the same as everyone else, literally copycat, doesn't mean it will be good, nothing like that could ever be good in the long run.
2175  Other / Archival / Re: Harsh crypto winter for all categories of crypto users on: December 14, 2022, 08:19:10 PM
The problem with cryptocurrencies is that they actually do not have unique useful properties for the real market.
Let's try to enumerate
1. Data integrity based on blockchain protocol. Ok, there is. The scope is rather narrow.
2. Simultaneous processing of a large number of transactions. OK. Let's say. But where is the international system on the blockchain? Partially, financial institutions use blockchain, but massively and widely - no!
And everything else is digital assets, smart contracts, DAG, NFT, and so on - cool, but has no real and wide application in the world.
All of those are stuff that would make it a good one but doesn't need in the end. I mean I agree that it would be good to have, there is no denying there, I could name 10 more stuff that would be great, those are not wrong and I definitely agree with all of them. However, they are not needed to be able to do anything, they are just good to have things and nothing more.

I know that it's not going to be easy to accept this, but bitcoin is good all on its own without needing any help at all and that is why I am pretty sure that it's not going to be a big deal at all. I think the best thing to do right now is just to focus on what we have, instead of dreaming what we could have to be better.
2176  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price 2023 on: December 14, 2022, 01:12:33 PM
lets hope for more betterment since we really go with huge dumps recently so hopefully recovery phase will happen to that year so that we can see good year for bitcoin and crypto on year 2023.
Yeah, after the massive dump, we may get into sideways movement before having recovery phase. But, this sideways will definitely will have recovery also but only in split times. So, simply we can say 2023 may seem like a pleasant year compared to hard bearish trend of 2022. There cannot be any accurate prediction about what kind of bullish market we are going to have in 2023 hence we cannot say about the peak price of 2023 now itself.

All movements of the market will depend on the world economic situation, yesterday, we received positive information when inflation in the US decreased, and that is a good signal for the market. If things continue to go well, we could have a better 2023 and vice versa.
In my opinion, for a deflated asset, world economy might be a less than 40% influencing factor. Bitcoin got its own community and economy hence regardless of how world would perform, we can expect bitcoin to be getting into a new ATH in 2025 which means 2023 will be the stepping stone toward that.
2177  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin high prediction 2023? on: December 14, 2022, 12:21:31 PM
Up until today I had the plan of just holding and selling when everything gets back to all time highs again but I have just realised as I have been buying at these lows for a while now my average buys have decreased a lot meaning I don’t need my investments to go back to all time highs to see good returns.
If you hold for more years then you will see all your bitcoin in multi-fold profits which means you never need to worry about your initial capital as some 10% of your total bitcoins are enough to cover the capital amount and then you can leave off your investments to keep growing. This is how true bitcoin adaptors do. This must be the simple trick to enjoy the maximum benefits out of bitcoin investments.

I am curious to know how high we all feel Bitcoin can reach later in the year before 2024?
Before 2024, you may not see any big rallies but if you remain patience until end of 2025 then you can see at least 10x appreciation from the current prices as bitcoin is speculated to test $1 million by end of 2025 (~20x from current ATH).
2178  Economy / Speculation / Re: US Inflation is 7.1%. Bitcoin price broke $18,000. What's next? on: December 14, 2022, 07:40:34 AM
Today, we have a very good new about US inflation is dropped to 7.1% , lowest since December 2021, while few months back we even heard the Inflation even surpassed 9%.
With that being said, Bitcoin also pumped to $18,000, so whats next?

So was the bottom at $15,500 and now we are going to start new leg of bitcoin bullish graph?
Believe or not; as per usual cycle of bitcoin market, the bearish trend is about to end and we are going to enter a new year which is highly expected to be a 'different' year than what we had in last 12 months, more positive news from everywhere will arrive and drive bitcoin market bullish. This had happened in the past for no reasons. I mean for example, even if a big exchange gets a hack, that would not impact bitcoin prices deeply (same may affect bitcoin prices heavily in bearish trend).

In the first quarter of 2019, after the big bearish year of 2018, bitcoin recovered from ~$4k to ~$15k levels in less than 3 to 4 months of time. I am expecting similar rapid recovery in next 3 months which might be up to 80% of current ATH. Yeah, history repeats itself.
2179  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Demo Account, Should Not Be Related To A Real Account on: December 13, 2022, 08:21:20 PM
demo accounts are created lull vigilance, to create a fake feeling of having knowledge, skill or supremacy. Most important, demo accounts does not make you learn from your mistakes. In demo accounts every single trade is correct, while reality is different.
Even in real account, if you simply move on, you will never get chances to learn anything. Most traders accept both loss and mistake to move on which means they may commit same mistake again but as per risk management we need to accept losses at stop-loss level (not everywhere or before stop-loss) and need need to go back-tracking to analyse on what went wrong to make that trade a losing one.

In my experience, such kind of back-tracking is possible even with demo account. If you take time to go through on your own performance then you can learn and become a pro trader and if you ignore then you cannot achieve anything in trading. Demo accounts are recommended to learn because it got no risk but its effectiveness is purely subjective of how serious you treat it.
2180  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Scalping, my best trading strategy on: December 13, 2022, 05:58:20 PM
Scalping must be absolutely correct in the right entry, and really don't forget to always put a stop loss and take profit when scalping. For those who are very experienced, maybe the scalping method will look easier, but I don't think it is for beginners, and even a lot has to be learned in applying this scalping method. Psychological calm must be in good condition, also our mentality must be much more prepared.
Trading with any strategy always carries risks regardless of whether they are experienced or not. No one can escape the risk of volatility but a knowledgeable and experienced trader is always likely to know how to minimize the risk.

In fact, scalping also carries a high risk of losing money, especially when traders do not have good emotional management when dealing with price volatility. The market is never stable, without good analysis and knowledge and a mastered strategy, they are gamblers. Once again, any trading strategy has risks, but these risks can be minimized when traders have knowledge and experience.
Yeah, risks are inevitable but let's admit it that it's better to use different strategies in trading than only sticking into one. This allows us to stay consistent when trading no matter what the conditions on the market are. Experienced traders are more knowledgeable but this can make their ego go higher. They may also use larger amounts of money within their trades so I won't say that their risk are only small.

Even we all have those positive traits you mentioned above, I think we can't erase the fact that we are still gamblers because the market can still move on their own most of the times. There is no way to predict them accurately.
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