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1921  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC bulls back? on: February 17, 2023, 03:11:08 PM
Some do adjust and some who arent on which its up to theirs on whatever decisions that they would be making specially into their trading styles and methods.Mistakes and errors is inevitable and its not

that surprising considering that we are dealing on a market which doesnt precisely follow neither TA or FA.This is why you should really be that versatile and really be that prepared for whatever things that might be encountered ahead.

Bulls back? This is what i had believed on the time the price had touched up 25200+ but we are all wrong.Selling pressure or simply the bears cant really just let it happen.
Now we are back on 24k and might possibly going even lower.
Mistakes are basically lessons that we paid for. If you haven't lost any money on bitcoin market, then you haven't truly invested into it yet. There are so many people who are veterans of crypto trading and all of them have one thing in common; losing money from trading.

Because in order to be a veteran, you need to make many trades, and if you do many trades, you will eventually lose in some of them, no human on earth ever traded a thousand times and be right a thousand times, all of them lose money in some of those trades. But that is a good news, if you haven't lost all of your money, that was a lesson you could learn from and be a better trader.
1922  Economy / Speculation / Re: What Is Your Bitcoin market speculation for the month on: February 17, 2023, 02:36:58 PM
$25,000 within February is an easy target.
And we already hit 24939 on bybit and most exchanges (almost 25k). This was at 22k yesterday. Who would have imagined such a price increase after a not-so-good cpi data which came just day before yesterday? This time bitcoin even shocked the Americans lol. Remember guys, If it goes above 25.2k, 30k will happen real quick, no stoppage in between.
Yes, the price was a hairline away from hitting $25,000 in many exchanges. I don't know if there was an exchange where Bitcoin actually reached $25,000 but the average price among exchanges was probably below $25,000. Coingecko has it at $24,960.70. In other words Bitcoin has not yet hit the $25,000 mark. Right now it is already in a correction phase. It will probably hit $25,000 and even beyond the next time the price rallies. It could happen any day from now.
I think that was actually pretty decent, it's a wonderful thing that bitcoin could look like dropping for a moment and then look like it's doing wonders the next moment. We were going down from 24.5k to begin with, and it reached as low as 21k levels, and then suddenly we are nearly at 25k levels, sure we dropped after that too but that's okay, we are just looking to see something could be done or not and that means the market is not dead.

The fact that 2022 didn't had this much hype and expectations about the price is all the difference I need to be happy. I mean even if we fail to do it, the expectation that we should be able to do it is all that I need.
1923  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Bitcoin Heading Back To $23,000? on: February 16, 2023, 09:40:15 PM
it's been answered as it is after a week? now bitcoin back to 24k and staying strong showing a possibilities performing to 25k in the soonest.

I believe that Bitcoin will now be ready to increase up to 30k , but be aware that it may be the sign of bitcoin fall as the year is still far from Halving.
I do believe it can go to 30k as well but we have seen ti try to do that before and it failed, so I am not entirely sure if it will do it, I think it "can" but we have seen it try and fail before, so I do not know if this time will be any different.

I hope that it does well this time around and it will end up with a good return for all of us, 30k would be such a great thing because it is such a big difference from where it used to be, that is nearly 2x from the bottom and it would actually mean something. Sometimes increases are not just pure increases but they are stories that the market is telling us and in this case the market would be telling is bull is back if we reach 30k.
1924  Economy / Speculation / Re: why Bitcoin Dumping ? on: February 16, 2023, 09:06:34 PM
Pumping and dumping is common, but today it's worth remembering because it has gone up over 11% and reached $24500, I believe February prices will touch $30k, and could be like January which was up over 40%, before prices got even more expensive then I suggest to keep buying, the increase will continue this year and maybe it will set a new price record.
There are moments like this that is insanely high rising in a very quick period. It didn't even take full 24 hours, like before it reached 24.5k, take a look at 24 hours before and then take a look at 12 hours before, it wasn't this high, which means that it was even like a few hours for it to reach this high.

That once again proves my point that I have been trying to make for years, bitcoin is something that can go up anytime, you should get in before it's too late. Too many people are "waiting" and they get in when it starts to go up and they are usually too late, if you get in when it is lower, that means you are going to make a lot more profit when it goes up.
1925  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Extremely Holding on: February 16, 2023, 06:59:08 PM
I know a man who has been storing his bitcoins for more than five years and is still not going to sell them, his plan is to wait for the next major growth, he believes that the price will be 100 thousand and until then he will continue to increase his savings.There are people who clearly follow their plan.
That sounded pretty incredible, because I'd never heard of such a thing before. But is a man holding huge amounts of Bitcoin waiting for a $100K price growth? Because if you only keep it in a small amount, I don't think it will be extraordinary enough for him even if the Bitcoin price reaches $ 100K later. If he was a big man with a lot of capital and still really believed in Bitcoin, surely he would try to add more Bitcoin savings before the $ 100K price happened to Bitcoin.
Doesn't matter how much they have compared to us, it matters how much he has compared to his old self. Which means, if he is living in a poor nation and making a small amount, that means even if he turned 50 dollars into 500 dollars that could be a good amount to have on the side, or turning 500 into 5k would be a life changing thing for them maybe.

I know that people are confused how 5k could change a life when it is one months salary for many people, but the truth is most of the world lives under 500 dollars a month, and that would be nearly a whole years worth of salary all at once and could change someone's life if they live in a country like that.
1926  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Operation Chokepoint 2.0 (Biden's administration quitet ban on crypto) on: February 16, 2023, 06:00:29 PM
But it was also late in 2013 when Bitcoin made an all time high. It was probably a strong enough statement that Bitcoin doesn't care at all. Whether it was more of the effect of the first halving in 2012 isn't the point. It still means Bitcoin is stronger than the development under Obama's administration.

If Obama failed a decade ago, Biden will fail more today. But the point is Bitcoin doesn't care. It's interesting to note that Bitcoin creates an ATH in every administration. It had one during Obama, another during Trump, and another during the current administration.
It is obvious that crypto is a global thing and doesn't care what US government wants to do or not. I get that they want to control it or at least control the citizens who use it, but that doesn't mean that they will be capable of doing that, they will most likely end up with nothing at all on their hands if they tried to pressure the public too much about this.

People in crypto care about their freedom from the government and that means they are not going to let the government get involved too much, they may do something about it, but they won't let it get that further down the line. Even if there were laws about it, they would just find ways to work around it.
1927  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else getting deflated with the bitcoin naysayers? on: February 16, 2023, 03:10:00 PM
Where do you think faith comes from? Why do you believe in bitcoin? Faith is not built through stories or persuasion from someone but is built from what we experience and verify for ourselves. That's why I say it's a waste of time trying to explain bitcoin to someone. I'm not explaining or trying to convince anyone, I don't have time to do that, and like I said. Show them the results we get from investing in bitcoin, their faith will start from there.
Supply and demand is a factor that makes bitcoin successful, we should not ignore them when talking about bitcoin, but it is not the first factor that opens the story for bitcoin to become more attractive.
I agree that faith should always be built like that, not always like that unfortunately in the world, sometimes older people tell younger people to "have faith" in something, and younger people grow up believing that they should, when in fact they do not know why. Simplest would be governments for example.

Bitcoin gained trust of everyone and we have faith for it because we have seen that it deserve our faith, not because anyone told us to, but because we saw it ourselves. That is why I believe that we shouldn't be really worried about it, it should be as normal as it gets and shouldn't really be something that shocks us in the long run that people trust it and love it.
1928  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoins to HODL on: February 15, 2023, 09:05:21 PM
I still have a lot of USDT in my wallet, I already have ROSE, NFTb, TRX, AXS. My question is any other altcoins that I have missed or should check out?
Those altcoins are good my bet is FTM ETH bnb and polygon because i believe that when the market returns to bullish this altcoins will always follow the trend just like the past bull run, the Bitcoin is the best of all coins but if we want a huge profit we also need to buy a good altcoins and hold it till bullish trend back.
I think you are on the right path, the mindset is "do not buy things that are unknown to everyone" and unfortunately many people still do that today, they invest into things that just a few thousand at most heard about, not ones that we all know like the ones you named.

To be honest, I do not have the same names as you do, like I don't invest into FTM, but at least I heard good things about it, and it is ranked high enough to matter, and that is where we should look at, we could have few differences but at least we are close enough to say that it is similar. I believe in BNB and ETH and Avax for example, but the idea for both of us is quite similar.
1929  Economy / Economics / Re: Anyone here into passive investing (of their time)? on: February 15, 2023, 08:39:30 PM
A few years ago I got passive income from Google adsense, at that time I had several blogs with good visits so earnings from adsense could be 5x greater than my monthly salary, unfortunately I didn't focus on taking care of the blog and making rankings on search engines go down then it's gone, I made a site since school and about 3 years started to get earning which I think is satisfactory.
What surprised me about your story is why you didn't focus on taking care of your blog properly, even though you have already felt the results and it's also very extraordinary because the results from your Google Adsense blog can beat your own monthly salary. But for some reason you don't take care of it anymore and prefer to look for something else, even though it's clear that everyone is always looking for big income in an easier way so that the focus can be maximized.
I used to have a blog too and I stopped as well and I can tell you my reason, no idea why he stopped but I am guessing it could be a similar reason as well. First of all, it requires a lot of work to keep doing it, even if you end up writing just one post per day, that is a lot of work, and most share multiple posts a day, there are big websites that posts 10 posts a day, you are competing against these people and having even one blog post per day is hard, 10 is near impossible for a single person, if you have multiple websites, calculate how much more posts.

Secondly these other companies and websites spend a lot more on marketing, so you have to spend more as well, and that causes a trouble as well and you can't afford it. So, it becomes near impossible to fight against these giants, and even when you work and spend money, you may end up not getting much in return.
1930  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The 4 trading fears and how to overcome them on: February 15, 2023, 06:29:20 PM
Do you think that experienced traders are not prone to fear? I guess they'll make a lot of mistakes if so. Big fear is a foe which prevents earning, but no fear is a foe also: you can become careless and lose everything if you think that you are experienced enough to be sure in the market trends. Balance is a virtue... and how hard to find it! Grin
This, the goal should not be to somehow not feel any emotion while we trade, an impossibility as no matter what kind of training you undergo as a trader your emotions will always be there, but to control them and to make the most out of them.

If the price crashes and you feel some fear out of this downward movement then you can be sure there are many other traders feeling way more fear, once you realize this is easy to take the correct decision as instead of selling you will realize the right movement to make will be to buy instead.
I agree that it is not really about having zero emotions, it is about not to care about your emotions and ignore them when you are trading. Are you afraid? Will you trade based on your fear or will you ignore the fear? That is all that matters, if you can do that then emotions you feel do not matter at all, they are not part of the calculation.

However, if you let your emotions run through you and you end up working hard for it, then I would say it could ruin everything you have worked for and you would make a big loss, I would suggest highly against that as much as possible and it would be a lot better if you could completely ignore them.
1931  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When to sell bitcoin before the next bear market starts? on: February 15, 2023, 05:22:31 PM
I won't hesitate to sell my Bitcoin when seeing the price is high OP. As long as I was in profit already, selling is certainly at the right time but because we are aiming high, that is why we are preferred selling them during the bull season. Unfortunately, that is the thing that we never know but constant price monitoring saves us from not missing it unless we are too greedy to wait for more which might lead us to miss the opportunity as well.
Basically it should be in a way that you should be still proud of what you have if it goes up. Like for example lets say you invested 20k and bought a bitcoin, then it went to 40k, you could sell half of it, get your money out, so you won't be losing anything at all, rest could do whatever it wants, go up or down or whatever and you should be still keeping it.

That way, not only you are protecting yourself from a future loss, but you are also making sure that you could profit from going even further up, like if it does another 2x on top of that, which is possible, you still have 40k invested and yet your 20k is out which would be pretty sweet.
1932  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BNB & BUSD Under Attack on: February 15, 2023, 03:39:51 PM
There is not such a thing as too big too fail, Lehman Brothers one of the largest investments banks and which existed for more than 170 years disappeared in a matter of weeks and it was the direct cause of the crisis we suffered during 2008.

I do not have the numbers but I would guess it was bigger than binance and it still disappeared, so thinking that just because binance is the biggest exchange on this market nothing can happen to it is a huge mistake.
To be fair, Lehman Brothers bankrupted itself, but others picked up what they had and continued. Even the building they worked in got sold, and their names and offices and business' that they had, all of that was sold to others and that money was used to pay off the people they had debts to, and that means only Lehman Brothers got screwed because of this.

They did it unto themselves, a big attack could always result with some companies bankrupting because they do not have enough income to pay off their debts, which means they weren't ready for a bad situation. I believe we do not have that right now, Binance is good, and they do not have to worry about this attack at all.
1933  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin could hit $10M in 9 years but more sidechains needed: Blockstream CEO on: February 15, 2023, 12:24:51 PM
Bitcoin may not be physical but that's why I mentioned NFTs (or even altcoins like Shiba Inu). These were stuff you talked about and showed off that you got, I seen it on TV talkshows and even on radio. People talk about them like they talk about their latest vacation or their latest bling. It's actually quite a good comparison as you say, a status symbol.

Without needing to see it, people already imagine these things and "admire" the people who own them.

Bitcoin, for better or for worse, will never be that status symbol. If you talk about it on a TV talkshow or on radio, people will generally view you as scammer or con artist or crazy. Plus, people who talk about Bitcoin usually don't even talk about the latest upgrade or tech or whatever. Always about x10 POTENTIAL lol.
Admire people who own NFT's? What is this 2021? I think people mock others who own NFT's at this point because it makes no sense. I understand sidechains, not bitcoin getting forked or anything, but we have one chain that is segwit which gets a bulk load right now and we need to have a few layers on there to make sure that it works better, and that is understandable.

But aside from that, I do not think that it should be that complicated for bitcoin to go up, it is a good project and everyone trusts it and from people who have 10 dollars to people who have 10 billion dollars, they all want to be part of it so I think it shouldn't be hard for it to reach 10 million eventually.
1934  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else getting deflated with the bitcoin naysayers? on: February 15, 2023, 11:23:58 AM
For those who have no knowledge of bitcoin, it is useless to talk about the supply, what they need is faith in bitcoin. To this day, bitcoin is still rejected by people simply because the government, the government is still the most influential authority, once they don't accept bitcoin, getting people to believe in it is tough. Suppose if the US government and other major powers simultaneously declare bitcoin as a better asset than gold, we will immediately see people's acceptance increase rapidly.
Trying to explain bitcoin to someone is a waste of time, try to show them what we get for investing in bitcoin instead, that's the best way.
That is true but that is not going to happen at all, we are not going to see governments say that bitcoin is better than gold. What we could see however is governments end up saying bitcoin is good, not say better than gold but saying it is good. If that ever happens I agree that what you said may happen and I am rooting for that right now.

Look at El Salvador, they basically said bitcoin is awesome, and if something even remotely close happens with bitcoin as well, then we are going to see it do so much better. We just need to have a situation where we trust bitcoin and its future and that would be a lot better for all of us at the same time.
1935  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin (food for table) on: February 15, 2023, 10:38:21 AM
If you rely on "Bitcoin" to put food on the table, you are invested in the wrong technology. Bitcoin as an investment is not effective as a short term investment, because it is better suited as a long-term investment.

There are potential for huge profits in the long run, but people that are living from hand to mouth, do not have the luxury to wait for 3 or 5 years for those investments to pay off.  Roll Eyes

If you want to put food on the table .... go out and look for a job or do something with your hands and sell that, if you can. Then take a very small percentage of that and buy bitcoins... it might pay off in the future.
You are considering bitcoin as just an investment, but you should realize that it is also currency. Let me explain as the most known thing here; signature campaigns. With them you get paid in bitcoin right?

Of course you do not get paid a ton, and it is around 80 to 100 dollars a week, and that is at max 400 dollars a month, and that is not enough for majority of the world outside of just few poor nations, none of us could live with that, but it is there, so it shows that there is a chance you could work and earn it. I believe that if we can do this, then there are other jobs and bitcoin could put food on your table, and that is the best thing about it.
1936  Economy / Speculation / Re: what now ? on: February 14, 2023, 02:25:20 PM
I can't tell if the bottom is actually done because the market is always unpredictable so I believe there's still a chance that the bottom would hit next time perhaps next year or so. But to think that $30k would be just around the corner is surprising because I didn't think $30k will be showing again if there's no bull market. But it might be possible though since the market is always unpredictable so it would makes sense if we'll be able to break that strong resistance. Perhaps, with this slow recovery and a pull back and grow up back and forth of the price we might going to see that $30k soon.
Just try to believe mate , if you are a bitcoin supporter and investor? then you must have faith that we already have the bottom last year and now we are seeking for a concrete increase that had been denied  since last year.
maybe we will not reaching bull market but at least we will not fail more than that .so holding at least 20k above this whole year is more than enough for me to believe how much i will care for my holding and buying more.
I agree and I am a bitcoin supporter and I believe that is exactly the situation we are in right now. I know not many people agree with me, but I believe that we shouldn't be shocked to see it go up a lot more. I know it looked a bit weaker recently after that increase, everyone expected it to be a lot higher and when it didn't moved that much higher many people were disappointed about it, but I think it is quite understandable why people didn't trust it that much and why they did not see it go up.

Not enough people believed in the bull run, and even though we are still 21k+ which is 5k+ more than the bottom, there are still many who do not trust the increase, and that's an issue.
1937  Economy / Speculation / Re: why Bitcoin Dumping ? on: February 14, 2023, 01:25:51 PM
The news lately that has been making headlines is now BUSD is considered an unregistered security by the SEC. Now how they came up with that I wouldn’t understand. We had USDT for years and they never considered it a security but now all of a sudden they are going after Binance. Before this it was kraken getting sued for the staking  being considered an unregistered security.

However FTX went completely under the radar and those other companies which commited fraud. I will never understand how SEC think. So far Bitcoin is holding up to this news. Most will convert to Tether and move on.
I think USDT is considered a "security" if they were as business as Binance, the difference is that USDT is not a company based out of USA, but binance.us is, and they are owned by Binance, and they control the whole of BUSD, not the same thing.

Obviously still terrible that they could make it like that, and I think they are basically saying "if we can't control you, we will punish you" and nothing more, and CZ knows this and will move towards more VPN side and not really care about what they say, because freedom to do whatever you want instead of doing what government wants will be a better profit maker for them. This is why they do not look worried about this at all.
1938  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How I made my first $2000 through stock marketing on: February 14, 2023, 09:50:50 AM
You’re into stocks, forex and crypto? Since these are all different market though have the same trading rules.

Well, you’re not the only one who don’t believe with Bitcoin at first but the moment they start earning crypto, they will realize that they are wrong and they are starting to explore this market. If you already made profit from your Bitcoin activities, then its good for you try to learn more and you’ll see a lot of opportunities here.
How can we earn a crypto if we don't believe at it? But, to be able to earn we must believe on it first because this was the only way for us to buy and hodl them. The OP is not into forex but he only applied what he learned to it and it work. Well, that's no surprise because like you said all of them have the same rules and that is to buy low and sell high.

Since the OP just learned forex, why can't he just try it as well right? Because even though they have the same rules, their market is still different from each other. what I know is that stocks and forex market are more stable but crypto market is highly volatile. It's much riskier in short so it would be better to diversify to cut the risk.
1939  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why are there sometimes big difference between spot trading and futures? on: February 14, 2023, 05:41:30 AM
Is it legal to buy tons of coins on Binance, withdraw, deposit on Coinbase and immediately sell the coins, then buy USDT and withdraw on Binance again?
It is legal but subject to your daily/weekly/monthly withdraw or deposit limits. All the above, if you do like you have mentioned, did you calculate how long such price differences will exist? In most cases, if you buy/sell in large quantity then prices in both the exchanges will converge as early as possible. When the price gap is not significant or not enough for covering for the fees to pay for placing orders (buy and sell), withdrawing from an exchange and network tx fees then there will be no point of planning for buying in one exchange and selling in other exchange in larger quantity.

When something like this is not feasible in large quantity, most people do not like to go for it in even in small quality as well due to the hassles involved in moving funds from one exchange to another. Probably you may try for it in small quantity if you have funds initially in both of the exchanges initially (to save time by not waiting for network confirmation before gaps disappear) and if you are KYC verified (for ensuring not getting locked while withdrawing).
1940  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoins to HODL on: February 12, 2023, 01:09:02 PM
I'm seeing the OP wanted to take more risk, meme coins for one might give him a big profit in the future. But for use who have seen the market before, ETH/ADA/BNB might be good choice, instead of looking for that one big altcoins to invest, so it's either a big win for him or a fat L.

Nevertheless, we can still invest and profit by riding the hype train on AI projects. There are a lot of them right now, it's just a matter on picking the right project before the next bull run. P2E might be another niche as well, but not sure how big it will be, project like AXS has made it's run on the previous bull run. But who knows, maybe they are still going to be hot pancakes 2024/25.
Or maybe he is just bad at picking an altcoin? Those coins are not risky before but maybe they are now today since their hype have gone and then there are so many negative impressions about them. If we want a big profit in the future then it's not an altcoin that can give it to us because we are not sure about their future but the ones that can full it is Bitcoin.

Sure, there are big alts like ETH which can also last longer but I am sceptical if it will pumped high as Bitcoin especially now that it had gone bad due to its latest transition from POW to POS. We are now close to the Bitcoin bull run so there is no need to ride the hypes of other coins and take big risks.
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