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121  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Happen If Gambling was not introduced? on: August 25, 2018, 10:46:59 AM
There are always other ways? Such as free faucets, free giveaways, lots of tasks to do and so on....
If you are refering to Net income.
The thing with people is that we're lazy and we will always be lazy unless we decide to not be so by disciplining ourselves and doing so every single day for the rest of our lives. Just look at the examples that you have mentioned free faucets, free giveaways. Both are free and doesn't demand you to do anything but claim the money.

Faucets, since the beginning of time, aren't worth anything. You only solve a captcha and you can claim your money once you have reached a certain amount of satoshis depending on which site are you using. For free giveaways, free giveaways were made so that people will register to a company's website. Basically it's their way to make people sign-up in their website and be able to claim that x amount of people have signed up already in their new and freshly published website. It's a way for people think that a lot of people were waiting for the website and were so excited to try it out that they had to sign up right when it was published. Two of your examples are both not lucrative at all and requires minimum effort.

How is gambling any different to such lazy behavior? People don't wanna do work, hence they do gambling. People don't wanna do work, hence they do faucet sites and claim free giveaways even if the money they are getting from it amounts to dust.
122  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you still continue? on: August 25, 2018, 10:02:00 AM
What will you do if after losing several times in gambling, you are left with only small amount of money and that money will be for your fuel or for transportation, will you still continue with the little you are left with? What if you lose?

No I will not. Losing my money is a sign that I am not lucky on the day I played so I better not lose all my money. I have to set limits, control myself and beside there are so many other days to play and win. Do not be addicted to it. Gambling is just there. It will never be gone. Gambling is just for fun and not to lose your everything.
Since losing your money in a particular day is a sign that it's an unlucky day and it's time to stop, don't you think that losing in multiple days is a sign to stop gambling because it's an unlucky lifetime and it's time to stop gambling forever? Smiley

I think people are deluding themselves that they are "in control" by being able to stop whenever they want. Sure you can do that, you can stop gambling whenever you want when you're in the casino. But can you stop gambling altogether? Can you stop coming back to the casino? The only thing this "controlling" does (i.e. stopping after a couple of losses or stopping when you lost x amount of money) is prolong the time that you lose all of your bankroll.

But at the end of the day, you still burned an amount of money which you can't afford to lose in order to gain back the losses that you have had in the past. Stopping gambling right now and never coming back is the best decision that you'll make because that would mean that you're not going to increase the amount of losses that you have to recover from. The more amount of losses you have, the more you feel compelled to gamble and get them back. It's a loop that you can only get out from by consciously having the decision to quit and committing to your words forever.
123  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do these gambling sites make good money? on: August 25, 2018, 09:13:46 AM
And is it worth trying to recreate one? I would imagine it's already too saturated. Either way, I was mostly curious about how much these guys actually make (margin-wise). If anyone had some insight on this, I'd love to hear.
Creating a new gambling site isn't a bad idea but be sure that the game you would launch is somehow unique which it can possible get a piece of share of the entire gambling industry of crypto and yes,it might be saturated but still always a chance but if you would just stick into games like Dice/sports/casino games then its better not to proceed at all.If you do try to look up on the current competition in the market then it would really really be tough.
I think that it's hard to compete with the current market but it's harder to introduce a new type of gambling game, and make people prefer it over the traditional gambling games unless your new game is dumb and allows people to make money easily which will lead you to bankruptcy, btw. These days, it kind of comes down to the little things.

When it comes to the type of games, you will most likely not end up having with a new game that people will actually play. It's in the service where the competition actually starts. Responsive customer service is the key these days. Gambling sites and also trading sites usually have a bad customer service. Of course there are some that have a responsive team and because of that, they are the ones that have the most players. Gambling sites are services at the end of the day, and people will not only rate you for the game but also their experience on how you handled their technical problems.

A gambling site can have a good ambiance and community that makes people enjoy the game, but if their customer service is bad, then the gambling site overall will be considered as bad right away. You need a team that can sort out problems as quick as possible otherwise people will start posting about their bad experience and that will make newcomers refrain from starting to bet in your site.

tl;dr: It's not just the game, but also the service (since gambling sites are offering a service at the end of the day).
124  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does convince people to enjoy gambling is a wrong idea? on: August 25, 2018, 08:31:25 AM
Nothing wrong with convincing people to enjoy gambling and actually its a good idea to promote gambling by telling them the positive and the negative side of gambling rather than showing them the side of gambling where all it can do is multiply your money in times when you need money. I was in that situation before, I have a few hundred dollars with me and I need a quick way to multiply my money because I need to pay someone, gambling is the first thing that came into my mind but I ended up empty handed.
Yeah you right. only marketing from gambling sites that say that gambling can make you rich and multiply your money.
in fact there is a huge risk behind it. You do the right thing if you tell someone else to play gambling correctly. which is to have fun
Not only that gambling sites say that they can make you rich, but they say that gambling can make you rich while having fun doing barely minimum efforts. Who doesn't want that? Everyone wants that. But the thing is, becoming rich in an instant is already too good to be true, let alone having fun doing it, so is make money while doing barely minimum efforts. So a combination of the three is just out of this world. True that there are people that were able to do it, but those people risked so much money, invested so much time, and the hard part (which most aren't able to achieve), they got EXTREMELY lucky.

So the promise that it's alright to enjoy gambling and have fun with it is nothing but a myth. You can't have fun in gambling unless you are on a winning streak or winning in general. But just how often does that happen? How FUN is it to watch your bankroll deplete right in front of your eyes knowing damn well that you could have used the money for better things that can totally make you feel great such as helping the less fortunate people?
125  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Is Your Worst Moment in Gambling? on: August 24, 2018, 12:58:33 PM
I don't know if it was the worst moment, but definitely hard psychologicaly, when I lost around 100 bucks each in three different crypto casinos some time ago, and than the price jumped, and what i lost was worth soo much more, a grand easily.  The price did decrease a bit after that, but it's still much higher than what it was when I lost.  I haven't lost much since than, and it wasn't what I lost that encouraged me to stop with the bigger sessions, its the realization that crypto is valuable.
Since you were betting that much in gambling sites, I assume that you have a lot more stored since you're obviously not going to be betting with all of your money. I think that you are still lucky to be one of those people that were able to have bitcoins before it skyrocketed. This means that you were able to ride the pump and was able to make tenfolds, maybe even more, from your crypto. You are still luckier than most crypto users as a lot of them only find out about crypto recently after bitcoin became viral because of the price pump.

I think that in crypto, you have to learn to let go. Your cash-outs today will be worth a lot more in the future. Your losses in gambling will be worth a lot more in the future. The only thing, it's a bad moment if the value increased just short after you've lost your crypto. But yeah, we're all doomed to say "My cryptos should be worth $xxxxx today if I didn't do this and that." which you should consider pretty normal due to bitcoin's price volatility nature. This is why I only sell my cryptos when I need the money so when I look back, I wouldn't feel guilty as I needed the money anyway.
126  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does positive thinking affect your edge in gambling on: August 24, 2018, 12:00:15 PM
It deffinetly effects your overall mood and can help either make your day great or horrible. If you are thinking negatively your gonna have a bad time!!

Fully agree with you, it happened to me as well many times. So during those times i just quit or want to play even more.
But positive thinking will not make you possibility to win increase. because the house won't see you playing with a happy and positive
heart. the possibilities will be the same. the house will have more possibilities to win and luck will still determine your victory dude
It's not like that they are recording our faces and if we look positive, then your chances on winning are increased. It's funny how these people claim that positive thinking helps you in gambling but aren't a millionaire yet. I mean, we all can be positive people, and since we're all at loss in gambling, does it mean that we're all negatively thinking while we're gambling? I think most are positive when they are gambling.

To those that are saying that positive thinking does indeed affect your edge in gambling, do you mind posting a screenshot of your win/loss history before and after you've become a positive thinker? Proofs are more than welcome. Roll Eyes

At the end of the day, your odds in gambling will always be the same no matter what you're thinking. It might help you in decision making since your mind is less distracted by negative thoughts, but the odds will always be the same.

I think those that are staying positive for the sake of having a good time in gambling knows pretty well that they are going to lose at the end of the day. Hence, they are positively thinking so that they can compensate about the fact that they have lost money AGAIN and that they are using gambling to distract themselves away from facing their real life difficulties..
127  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns [Last update: 23-Aug-2018] on: August 24, 2018, 11:25:05 AM
Why is there red mark for bitvest campaign ? There is some delay in payments but manager has paid and also informed all about the future payments.
I think that since you know that, you should also know by now that there's a multiple week payments that isn't still paid yet although it's in 2/3 progress. We're just waiting for the next payment and we're removing the red asterisk.
128  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Happen If Gambling was not introduced? on: August 23, 2018, 11:51:04 AM
If Gambling was not introduced then many people have to do the hard work for earning money.
Yes your right . no one can play gambling . everyone can work for their families and no one will be frustrate of money.
You guys are talking about gambling as if it has become an alternative way for people to make money aside from working hard. The thing is, gambling companies have made us believe that it's totally possible for you to win big in gambling but only the opposite is true. Yes, sure, there are people who have made a fortune from gambling. There are people who have become instant millionaires after betting in the lottery for decades, but what about the rest of the population? It's totally possible that you win, yes, but the chances are so little that it's not worth your money anymore. What makes you think that you belong to that small percentage of the population that makes a fortune in gambling? Like me, you probably are one of those who are never ever going to make a fortune out of gambling.

Even without gambling, people can still be frustrated because of money. Gambling isn't the only vice that makes you lose money. You can also lose tons of money from being an alcoholic or a drug addict. An alcoholic's physical health is at risk and a drug addict's mental health is at risk. Both doesn't really cost as much as gambling but in the long run, it can be a really expensive vice. Once an alcoholic is admitted to the hospital due to obesity, excessive drinking, or alcohol poisoning, and a druggie for overdosing, the bills are so much. It'll come to you out of nowhere and you probably won't have the money to pay for the hospital bills since they are all gone in feeding your vices in the first place. There will always come a time that you're going to be sentenced for your vices and it most of the time is a life and death situation (plus the bills).
129  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sometimes enough is enough on: August 23, 2018, 11:02:16 AM
Sports gambling are not easy to play just like dice or slide gambling. Here in sports gambling we not only depend on our luck but we need to have good study about the teams their player, and to make a good strategy for playing sports gambling.
It's actually easy to do. You can just bet blindly and let the luck do the work but that's very similar to just playing in dice. The advantage of doing sports betting is that you can do the research ahead of time and be able to determine which team is better than the other. On the other hand, things are still undecided and sometimes even an obvious win can be a surprising loss. Luck still functions in sports betting.
Knowing your limits is a good thing, but sometimes its hard to execute specially if you are almost reaching your limits and at the same time wanted to recoup. So its really important to take control of your brain because we all know that almost all gamblers decision making are clouded when everything is not going on our way.
The thing with us, humans, is that we're so good at planning but at the time that we actually have to execute our plans, that's where the problem seems to arise. In order to fix this, you're going to need to learn how to discipline yourself. I recommend checking out subreddits /r/SelfDiscipline and /r/getdisciplined. Sort it by "Top" posts and then choose "All time" so you can see the posts with the most upvotes. They are often a compilation of good articles about getting disciplined. They can also be posts where OP is merely sharing their experience about discipline. It's definitely worth checking out because it's a community. You are trying to be disciplined with other people that are helping each other out. It's said that it's easier to fight your demons if you fight it together with the help of other people fighting the same battle.

I'm pretty sure that there are posts about gambling in that subreddit as well which can totally help you control yourself when you've already reached your daily limit for your gambling habit.
130  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why not play games online instead of gambling? on: August 23, 2018, 10:15:15 AM
There are gaming competitions that give money, but they are not as accessible as the gambling competitions here. It is for fun ofc, but for money and rewards too

Another thing is that people who like to meet new people, be with people and make friends how will they like online gambling where you cannot see anybody else other than your computer. So it is beneficial for such people to go in casinos and gamble and enjoy the environment.

But for someone who wants to not lose money from gambling? Just because you are a gambler, doesn't mean that you can only interact with people that are gamblers as well. At the end of the day, we are humans and we are made able to interact and connect with everyone regardless of who we are and who are they. Better go to a bar where you can have a good time and get to know new people than be in a casino, lose your money, and feel bad about yourself. In bars, there are live bands, and stand up comedians so even if you don't get to talk to people, you're still guaranteed to have a good time.

It's beneficial for people to go to casinos but it's not a necessity and we can prove it by thinking of the fact that most people don't go to casinos but still are able to live a meaningful and fulfilling life.
131  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns [Last update: 20-Aug-2018] on: August 23, 2018, 09:16:03 AM
I am not unresponsive, I only reply to those who gets selected in the campaign. Since there is still a spot open for Hero/Legendary, I occasionally check all the users who apply for that spot but still haven't find one with good post quality.  

It's not up to me whether there is an asterisk or not but maybe just posting something like "all outstanding applications denied" occasionally would reassure people that they have been looked at.
Paractor's campaign has a red asterisk because he was unresponsive around June or July (not really sure, back read to find out). Since then, I was watching the campaign for the manager's updates regarding the applications, there are none so I thought he was still unresponsive. A reply to the applicants would be totally awesome so that they know that you've seen their accounts and they weren't qualified instead of just waiting for nothing. Now that this is cleared out although I strongly suggest doing what TheQuin said, we shall remove YoloDice's red asterisk.
132  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I never sold my First bitcoin. Are you also emotionally bound to bitcoin? on: August 20, 2018, 05:42:42 PM
I'm not exactly "emotionally bound" to bitcoin. I wouldn't care at all and will sell my bitcoins right away at a high price. As a matter of fact, I don't mind cashing out all of it now if I need to because I accumulated them in a much lower price. The only thing, though, why would I sell them when I don't have to? This is why I'm still holding even my first whole bitcoin. I only sell when I have to. There are times when I feel like I wanna treat myself for a lunch out at a fancy restaurant, and so I cash out some of my bitcoins. There are times I want to reward myself for something, so I do.

I think all of us are waiting for the 20k$ price again. We are holding as long as we can. But it's very important to have a taste of some of the fruits of your own labor. This way, you will be more motivated. You would feel refreshed and will feel a lot less burned out.

Me not selling my bitcoin is not me being emotional, it's me being practical.
133  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Bitcoin Wallet Blockchain Says It’s Adding 50k Users Per Day on: August 20, 2018, 04:26:26 PM
if true, this is more of a bad news in my opinion. because at this point in time we are not having that much adoption to say this is just a small part of it, in fact I think this shows most of the adoption these days. now the bad part is the fact that it shows new people are using a "web wallet" as their bitcoin wallet and it proves that most of the newcomers do NOT understand bitcoin at all.

hopefully this can change over time and as they read more about what they have just bought and stop only thinking about the price and getting rich!
And how do we know that when we don't have the data for people creating new desktop or offline wallets to compare it to? I think newbies are called "newbies" because they don't know much about bitcoin yet and they came here to learn more. I, for one, started out with an online wallet. I didn't really care THAT much about security back then because even if I get hacked, there's really nothing to get from me. Then after reading and accumulating around 20$ worth of bitcoin, I started using 2FA. After getting more, I started using a desktop wallet and later on moved my bitcoins to an offline wallet.

I think the journey of other newbies will be the same unless they have a facilitator who would teach them to use an offline wallet right away although there's really no reason to be since he doesn't have any bitcoins yet. Pretty much online wallets are just temporary wallets that will allow you to understand bitcoin more by having some first-hand experience in sending and receiving bitcoins.
134  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How can a goverment trace you have BTC? on: August 20, 2018, 03:40:41 PM
How can the government discover I own BTC, let's say I'm from Venezuela where crypto is banned, what they can do to discover and arrest me?

Government can trace your bitcoin if you had submitted your personal details to the government and stating that you owned bitcoin. With that declaration the government may impose taxes for every transactions that we are about to make.

I think government can't trace you, because it is a digital currency. That's why many bad people used in eligal transaction, it is an anonymous.

It is difficult to trace that you have a bitcoin. Unless government can discover or make a machine than can detect bitcoin or bitcoin detector.
Your transactions are only "anonymous" when you're using dummy bitcoin addresses. But at the end of the day, you're going to put your bitcoins in your local exchange account in order to cash out your bitcoins. This is the time that you're no longer anonymous and it's the time that the government has learned that you have bitcoins. This is why you're not really "anonymous" in the bitcoin world unless you do extra steps to do so. No matter how many times you put your bitcoins in a mixer, you're still going to need a local exchange site to cash out your bitcoins. And for all I know, local exchange sites need to have a license and all. Basically the government can access their records if they wanted to. They never promised that you're going to be anonymous with them, did they? Smiley

This is why bitcoin isn't exactly "decentralized" unless these companies are gone. We are in need of them, at the moment.

For us to be actually "anonymous", there are only two ways. One is to have a new website where people just do P2P transactions that has a large community and scams are being moderated. Second, commodities are finally being sold in exchange of bitcoins so you don't have to exchange your bitcoins into fiat before you can use it.
135  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN is useless!? on: August 20, 2018, 11:18:06 AM
Over the past eight years, people have been trying to price the BTC, offering bubble markers (Several years before the bubble burst at 1000, then $ 2000, then $ 5000). There are those who expect BTC up to $ 500,000 / 1 BTC, everyone has their own reasons, opinions, so what is the real value of the BTC?
The only "real" value of bitcoins is the price that it has now. Someone can have a totally convincing explanation why one bitcoin has to be worth a certain amount of money, but at the end of the day, that's now the price of bitcoin. People aren't going to buy one bitcoin from him at that price just because he was able to explain it well. Even with all the reasonings, bitcoin might still fail to reach the prices people are expecting from bitcoin because the price is affected by a lot of factors.

Some examples are:
1. whales selling their coins,
2. a major country prohibiting the use of bitcoins,
3. a relevant person in the crypto world started a FUD,
4. FUD caused unknowingly by another person's skepticism about bitcoin.

Assuming that one day, all of these hindrances will be overcome by the fact that bitcoin is actually a necessity in the future, the speculations still aren't that accurate. One can claim that "bitcoin will one day cost $500k each" but when? The "when" part is the most important since that will tell you how long do you have to hold your bitcoins.
136  Economy / Economics / Re: When will people feel comfortable using BTC ? on: August 20, 2018, 10:41:51 AM
People get affected mostly by the society, all the shops and services around us started accepting Bitcoins or any other cryptocurrency then people are going to feel comfortable using Bitcoin. That is a simple human nature, when they see others using service or a product then they are much more comfortable using it for themselves. Many company and services use this physiological theory for their business by giving advertisement and then try to sell stuff.
Some people are even getting paid doing stealth marketing. Stealth marketing is basically showing off or using your company's products around people. It's like you're marketing it to them without their knowledge that you're marketing it to them. It's basically a low-level hyping of products. There's advertisements on TV, there's Ads on PC, but people only start using something when they see someone use it in front of them and see how easy their lives have become after they started using the product. One good movie about it is The Joneses (2009). They are a family of steath marketers and they had to increase the sales of their company by making people think they are in need of their products.

For your first point, that once merchants start accepting bitcoins, people are going to be comfortable then using bitcoins, I really think it's quite hard to achieve. For merchants to start accepting bitcoins, there should be a demand first for it because otherwise it will be useless for the merchant and it will not increase their sales or attract new customers. That would mean that for merchants to start accepting bitcoins, people should already be using it; people are already comfortable in using bitcoins. It's a vice versa thing. Perhaps there should be enough population (not necessarily everyone) that are comfortable in using bitcoins so the merchants will start accepting it and the rest of the population (non bitcoin users; people that aren't comfortable using bitcoins yet) will just follow through.
137  Economy / Economics / Re: Crypto replacing fiat? on: August 20, 2018, 09:58:34 AM
Yes crypto is for sure replacing fiat.  Do you not find it odd the world governments are doing nothing to stop this rival to their fiat empire?  This is the new government money.  Your alive during the transition. 
I think they are doing nothing about the rise of cryptocurrency because if they are to do something, it will only make people know about bitcoin even more. It's called the Streisand effect (read more) For example, them banning bitcoins or any crypto-related site in your country's ISPs (i.e. making all crypto sites inaccessible) will only raise more attention to the topic. There will be viral articles talking about it and people will ask themselves, "What is this cryptocurrency thing and why does the government doesn't want us to see it?" Hence, they are going to research about it.

People like being involved in something that's a little bit underground. So once crypto sites are banned in your ISP, you're going to use a VPN just to access the crypto sites. A normal individual will feel "cool" or whatever and do a further research about crypto. It's a lot more engaging now that it's not allowed.

tl;dr: They are preventing a phenomenon called the "Streisand effect". (read more)
138  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin and altcoin on: August 20, 2018, 09:05:21 AM
in these days bitcoin had a strong rise, but the other coins seem to be standing at the stake, is there a reason?
do you think that the whole market can be resumed? or will most of the altcoins fail in these months? sorry for my english=)
Now there is a formation of a new market, it seems to me, altcoins will soon not depend on bitcoin. Ie. If bitcoin will fall, it will not affect the price of altcoins.
It kind of doesn't affect the price if you think about it. Bitcoin's price changed, so the price of altcoins are also changing. This is because people are selling their altcoins when they see bitcoin's price increasing so they can ride the pump. But if you check out the altcoin's price before the price change in terms of dollars, it will be the same price after the movement. So even when sometimes the price of altcoin are high in exchange of bitcoin, it's still the same price as before when you look at it in dollar rate.

A good mobile app that you can use for this is Blockfolio. I've been using it since the beginning to track which coins should I let go and which coins should I start selling. When you click at the coin you wanna track, you can also see the transaction history for your chosen trading site. Transaction history, the charts, and the buy and sell orders as well, you can see them in the app. You can also track how much money have you lost or gain in 24 hours in percentage, dollars, or in bitcoins.
139  Economy / Economics / Re: how to help people who have problem economic on: August 18, 2018, 02:16:39 PM
Even with the new job openings, if the person you're trying to help isn't qualified for the job, then he isn't going to get the job. I think the best way to help someone with a problem financially is to teach him a skill. Even driving, a simple skill, can make you get a job. You can be a private driver of someone or you can become a Grab or Uber driver. You don't have a car? There are now people who are renting their cars for Grab services. You don't know how to drive? Almost everyone can, just ask a friend to teach you how to drive. As you can see, something as easy and basic as driving can make you earn money nowadays.

One thing that we should keep in mind, just because there are a lot of people earning money from crypto, doesn't mean that everyone can do it. Most people here are tech-savvy and we have a good understanding of the technology that bitcoin isn't really something that we have to study for months just to understand it.

I believe that everyone is good at some field. I believe that everyone has liked to do something and was able to have decent skills on it because if you don't, then what the hell have you been doing with your life? It's just a matter of making money out of that thing you're good at.
140  Economy / Economics / Re: Choosing the one | What I think! - Real Job or Full Time Crypto! on: August 18, 2018, 10:31:58 AM
Why choose between the two ? Regular job is very hard to find, very hard to get hired then we / you are just going to leave it because you earn big in crypto ? You think we can always earn that big in crypto ? What if you get scammed ? What if the bounty does not reach the soft cap ? What if the market if red for a long time ? It is always good to have many sources of income.
I honestly never get why people think it's hard to find a regular job. It's only hard to find a job when you're starting out, when you don't have the experience, or you're simply incompetent. Otherwise, you can easily jump from one jump to another. It's easy to go on-off employment. I do agree that crypto earnings aren't always good but you also need some time to yourself and your family. Someone who's been doing full time crypto while having a regular day job can only be so burned out. Now that his crypto earnings are more than his regular day job, then it's time to focus on the crypto job and leave the day job.

This way, you'll have more time for your crypto job, more time for your family, and maybe even more earnings since you focus solely on it. We all know that regular jobs are really tiring especially with a boss constantly yelling at us. Once the crypto earning isn't going so well anymore, you can simply go back to having a regular job while having a crypto job. It can be a good way to find a better paying regular job since you already have the experience from your previous company.

At the end of the day? You had the time that you didn't have to wake up early and go to work. You had little tasks to do. You basically had your "me" time and was able to relax for a little bit. That's a million times better than being constantly burned out which might cause overfatigue, which will make you lose more money since hospital bills aren't a joke anymore these days.
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