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901  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: May 25, 2017, 06:14:20 AM
Do you think if BTC had a stable price which could only be altered by $0.01-0.10 it would still be as popular and as used?
Bitcoin gains more attention due to its volatile nature.

If bitcoin had a stable price,then more merchants would come forward to accept bitcoin as payment since they don't have any risk of loss due to price fall.
On the other hand,traders who get profits mainly due to the price variations in bitcoin would loose their interest in buying and trading bitcoins and would start moving to some other altcoin.

Which is practically the foundation of bitcoins. The merchants will come to us eventually. Making the price of bitcoin stable just for the merchants to accept it is such a foolish move. But it also has its advantage. Since they will be accepting bitcoins then, and then bitcoin dies and people moves to a different cryptocurrency, then maybe they can also adopt that currency even though it's volatile. What I mean to say is that it will at least familiarize them to the basics of bitcoin.

Anything having a stable price is actually impossible since everything is based on supply and demand even the ones that weren't meant to be like that. Scarcity will always give value to something.
902  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How is trading *not* gambling? on: May 25, 2017, 06:03:49 AM
How different is trading from just gambling? I know there seems to be a  big difference with technical analysis and whatnot, but in the end aren't you just betting on something completely random?
Trading has a big difference to gambling. Gambling is using a money to get a profit but they habe no assurance to get a profit unlike [1]trading that need to wait the right time foe the better price. Both of them are money involve, they need a capital and oir aim is to make a profit. [2]But trading need a long time to get a sure profit. While gambling gets a profit in small period of time and [3]will also turn to zero in just one moment.

[1] But is the right time ever going to come? Go to YoBit and see how many people have lost money from trading. People believe that the coin that they are currently holding is just going down momentarily and would easily go back after a short period of time. Until that "short period of time" has become long. Until the coin has finally died.

[2] Long time holding a coin doesn't guarantee "Sure profit" at all. As a matter of fact, holding a coin for too long can also be bad since people might already have left the market before you ever sell your coin.

[3] Only if you lose and only if you risked all of your money.
903  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: May 25, 2017, 02:01:50 AM
The easiest way to get some bitcoin for me is trading specially if you have much talent on that. you can get .01 bitcoin for just an hour. Just be patient you can achieve your goal. if you have much risk appetite i do suggest to do trading. trading is really profitable. trade at your own risk.

Sure you can but only when you get lucky. Staying for one hour in front of the computer watching the charts doesn't necessarily allow you to earn 0.01BTC. You can earn that much but only when the market has moved. Short trading is not always going to happen and most of the time your "short trade" becomes a long trade. You're going to wait for  days or weeks before you can profit. Otherwise, you're going to lose either because the price has decreased or because of the exchanging fee.

Trading is definitely a good way to earn money but only if you know how to do it, when to trade, and how much to trade.
904  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me a secret: any way to earn 0.1 BTC per week? on: May 25, 2017, 12:49:55 AM
Invest in coins and tokens that give a dividend. I am in JANUS TOKEN and it pays me monthly in NXT and there is a btc market that trades it also on various exchanges, so you could trade it back and forth, make a bit of bc trading it then every month put it back in your wallet to claim a dividend. That's also another way to earn.
But very few tokens come up with such plans of dividend. Most has an ICO presale and after which based on the token value and investment the bounties were distributed. So dividend by investing is not that an effective earning method to every user. The only hope is the trading and gambling where capital investment gives the profit depending on the luck and winning strategies developed by the person.

Lately the coins have been good. Look at Edgeless and Lunyr. They have little amount of participants while they have accumulated a large funds. The technique in joining altcoins is that you have to check first how much is allocated for the bounty campaigns, and how many percentage of that is allocated for the campaign that you're going to join (e.g. signature campaign, twitter campaign, facebook campaign).

Bitcoin signature campaigns give you quite a decent income while altcoins is kind of a gambling since you don't know how much you're going to earn.
905  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buying Drugs with Bitcoin ? on: May 24, 2017, 07:58:25 AM
it includes the features of the bitcoin "freedom" bitcoin that you own completely yours and it's up to you to use your bitcoin. You should also know the consequences if it is related to illegal acts.
Well in that case we have to be vert careful with our bitcoin and not to use it in illegal activities because transactions
can be easily trace since there is a public ledger. For people who are into business they know how to launder the funds and they
can use bitcoin mixer to mix the transactions.

But sometimes you don't know if the bitcoin mixer is not cooperating with the person tracking you or the person tracking you can simply contact the bitcoin mixer site. I honestly don't think someone will go to this extreme effort unless it's the government and you did something pretty bad. But there are jurisdictions that seem to have no power at all in the Internet. They can't trace anyone at all.

The term "easily traced" does not suit bitcoins at all since someone can create multiple amount of address and just make the money go round and round, put it on online wallets, on mixers, on exchangers, on trading sites, etc. In other words, "there are a lot of ways to get out of crime".
906  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The best cloud mining site !!! on: May 24, 2017, 07:47:34 AM
mostly cloud mining sites are scam I joined cloud mining site before but they did not pay me. Better do trading or join signature campaign  and social media campaign.

I believe everyone joined a cloud mining investment at least once, it's normal. The important is to learn with our mistakes, in this case with the cloud mining investment, but some people keep doing the same mistake again and again and don't stop losing money with cloud minings (the HYIPs and the non profitable "legit" cloud minings), it's because these people schemes like this still exist.

More like the reason why this scheme is still existing is because there are still people investing. The HYIP site creators have computer skills like programming. They surely know what they are doing. They have hidden their identity for quite a while and have scammed enough people.. But there are people that got scammed, and just thought "It was because I didn't invest sooner." Sure if you've invested sooner, you could've get your ROI before they ran away but that's not the solution to the problem.

These people only think that they can earn more money or ROI faster if they do have downlines so they keep on promoting HYIP sites. Some really make money from HYIP but mostly don't. I really pity the people that keeps on trying to earn from this type of website.
907  Economy / Economics / Re: How to teach kids about Bitcoin? on: May 24, 2017, 07:37:59 AM
I think, it is not necessary to teach them about Bitcoin. Bitcoin is not s game. It's a serious issue. Kidds have to play game, to learn their lesson and to enjoy their childhood. So they should be kept away from Bitcoin.
I'd love to teach my kids but do they care about bitcoin? No, they just want to have fun and enjoy their childhood, I cannot even convince my niece who are already matured enough to learn how bitcoin works, how much more a kid. Maybe I will just wait for the right time, they might grow up and comprehend all this things.

It simply appears to me that you have bad persuading skills. "Money", when people here that, their brain lights up like light bulb. Everyone wants money. Everyone's materialistic. I know there are special snowflakes out there that would say otherwise but let's face it, we're all materialistic. Simply telling your niece that he can buy whatever he wants if he's going to study bitcoins and work hard for it. The job isn't that tiring since they only have to do computer works which is pretty easy for today's generation.
908  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: May 24, 2017, 07:25:07 AM
Trading altcoin is good but you need to know what is the best coin you invest to make profit you do research to know what coin jave potential to increase in the future.

The far majority of the altcoins are nothing more than empty projects functioning as pump and dump scheme -- how exactly will research help in these cases? If you happen to invest in these coins, or trade them, it will be nothing more than gambling. If you look at coin projects backed by real developers and a realistic roadmap, they are a far minority, and in most cases already bought up to their justifiable value. Result -- people will jump into pump and dump coins hoping to hit bank.
Not for me, lately I've been seeing altcoin as more valuable investment than bitcoin if you only have a limited amount of money.
There are plenty of altcoins now that has a good potential if you will just try to make a good research, in fact I invested in
ICO and I make good money from it.

I personally count bitcoin as my safe haven. If my altcoins are converted in bitcoins, I'm confident that I wouldn't have that day when I'm surprised that my coin has went down tremendously without any idea if it will come back to life anymore. I still have some altcoins because of bounty campaign. I often check their price of liqui just so I wouldn't be too late to sell my coins.

Plenty of altcoins have a good potential ever since. But are people going to buy it? The "good potential" part has become so common that the only chance of a successful trade is that if the coin gets hyped up enough for you to get some profit.
909  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: May 24, 2017, 07:03:25 AM
Other thinks that paper money will be disappear soon but others paper money will helps a lot of our economics maybe it will change the appearance of the interface of money year by year but it will never be died or else disappear.
Paper currency is here to stay for the long haul and no matter how digitized we may become fiat will be used and it is really difficult to change the perception of humans to change their methods entirely.So that is what i think about this topic.

I agree with both of you here. Although other form of currencies are coming out these days, I think one that would stand out and endure would be paper money. People will always have the need to have a currency that they can physically hold in their hands and paper money basically has been the currency most of us have been used to. It would take a drastic change in society for this to change

It's already 2017 and the Millennials are already taking over. People don't settle with the traditional way of things anymore. People settle with the best thing for them. If they found bitcoin to be the best for them, then they'll use it. I'm a Millennial as well and 95% of my money is on bitcoin. The rest are converted in fiat just so I can survive since there's not much merchants in my place accepting bitcoin yet.

If more and more people use bitcoin, the only ones that will continue to use paper money are the older ones and those that don't have access to the Internet. Eventually, everyone will adopt to the situation, the older ones will die, and bitcoin will be used more than paper money.
910  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: May 24, 2017, 06:39:03 AM
Having a steady income is hard when you don't have own business but when trading I guess we can by working hard by focusing on what we've started already Bitcoin currency is there to help us to earn profit but with discipline we can do what ever we want from internet do shopping and gambling we need to avoid them earning money is our top priority.

And even having your own business doesn't assure steady income at all. Most of the things are just seasonal. There  are days when your product or when your service have a lot of buyers or customers. But there are also times when it's almost as if your shop is just invisible. And to most businesses, it's like this. Most of the time there's no customer. Not all businesses are booming. You should consider yourself lucky if your business is making some profit at the moment. There are business person that don't get any profit at all and just end up closing down because of where their business is going.
911  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Bitcoin has power nowadays ? on: May 24, 2017, 02:09:09 AM
I think it boils down to the demand and supply of bitcoins on the market which is the main determinant of Bitcoin prices and so it's powerful these days because there's an increased demand for it globally and everyone seems to want to join the train to make profits therefore it's becoming powerful.
Yup, that's right, I think that the major factor driving bitcoin to moon now a days is that the bitcoins are legalized in Japan and most of the Japanese people invest their money so they have found a new investment and it is a good one watching that a bitcoin was about $0.008 in start and now it is over $2k, so they can see huge gains with little investment and also supply is limited to only twenty one million coins only, so less coins and more demand....

One of the biggest reason why it goes up over these past years is because of this forum, there are thousands of people trying to get some bitcoin using these forum, and know that there are different ways to earn bitcoin and some are already in here. Giving the information they need about not just bitcoin but altcoins too, so basically this forum does some huge impact regarding bitcoin market, this forum expands the demand and made it to a different level.

I wouldn't think that it's a "big" reason at all. Bitcointalk has been here ever since. I think that all information and all dramas about bitcoin and altcoins are already here. All the FUDS, different type of scams, and the trolls are also here. You can say that this forum is where people freely post stuffs since (let's face it) moderation has always been a problem here. I see people here and there posting FUDs as if they are just casually stating facts about bitcoin

I don't think this is a problem

Since it would be rather strange for a forum advocating something which defies and denies the very idea of centralization to be moderators' paradise and posters' prison ("trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again"). That would be a bit hypocritical, as to me. Apart from that, I don't see a lot of damage in folks spreading rumors, FUD, or just trolling around and making fools of themselves (read clowns here). The main problem is the incessant flow of useless and pointless posts, but this seems to be the other, dark side of freedom that Bitcointalk adheres to ("the evil twin")

It's because it's not obvious. We don't know what newbies are thinking about a certain topic since not everyone of them are posting about it. Every now and then I see a Junior Member or a Member posting stuffs here that are totally untrue. Where did they get those information? From the fudders and from the spreaders of wrong information. Back then, I used to think that halving means the difficulty of mining is doubling and the price will be doubled as well. But that's just because that's what I read from other people here. You'd think that I should have done my research on my own but we simply believe everything that we read.

That's what I've been thinking for a couple of weeks until I read somewhere that it's actually the block reward that gets divided by two and the price isn't affected right away.
912  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: May 24, 2017, 01:42:34 AM
Bitcoin can only be viewed as an electronic currency, widely used on the internet worldwide, but to replace it with a solid currency, this is not possible, the reason being:
1. Bitcoin is an anonymous coin, unable to determine who sent the recipient, leaving the world out of control of the coin!
2. Bitcoin can not impose taxes, which makes it difficult to develop a nation's infrastructure
3. Bitcoin is not safe. Frequent congestion occurs when financial markets are volatile
4. Bitcoin is a perfect place for criminals to conduct transactions, causing global turmoil due to its anonymous ability (ex: terrorism, drug trafficking and weapons, extortion such as viruses. WannaCry ...)

If Bitcoin can overcome the following factors, I think Bitcoin can replace the Dollar, but that's a distant thing.


1. And then? You received the coin. That's it. If you mysteriously received some coins, then thank you to whoever sent it to you. It's pretty obvious that the sender was the guy you were having a deal with since it's pretty unlikely that someone will mistakenly send money to your address.

2. Tax will be paid just like the same way. You buy a food, tax is already there. Before your salary goes to you, the tax has already been imposed.

3. If bitcoin replaces the dollar, the prices will depend on bitcoins and not dollar. Volatility isn't a problem anymore.

4. WannaCry? Really? It's just a recent thing and now it's a reason why bitcoin cannot replace dollar. Grin Fiat is even more anonymous since there's no way you'll know who held the paper before you. In bitcoins, all the transaction history is out there.
913  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: May 24, 2017, 01:29:46 AM
Holding bitcoin for a long time is a good way to make money if and only if the price keep on increasing.  But sad price fluctuates. So i guess taking advantage of bitcoin price fluctuation is a better way to make money.  There are several members of these forum that can support what I said.

I surely would choose a market with price fluctuations but mostly in uptrend motion over a market that has its price keep on increasing but only on small increments. I think it depends on the pace. The downward movement every now and then doesn't necessarily slow down the increase of bitcoin's price. The price fluctuation is a good thing like you said. People can take advantage from it. But only those that "can". Not everyone can enter trading and then get out of the market with profit. Most of the time it's best if we simply just hold our bitcoins so we get as much profit as we deserve.
914  Economy / Economics / Re: How to teach kids about Bitcoin? on: May 24, 2017, 01:13:38 AM
I am actually surprised that there isn't much material to give or show novice people(kids or other wise) that will make them understand this bitcoin and crypto stuff easily.
I feel there definitely should be some books are at least collection of articles or guides that do this.

And I'm even more surprised that you're expecting that someone will create a video or an article about bitcoin for kids.  Google "Explain bitcoin like I'm 5" and you'd see some articles such as this, this, and this. Since I've found what you're looking for, it proves that you simply didn't do enough research. I don't think that you even used google at all. The things you need would not just be handed down to you by someone. You have to do your own research about these things.

There are pdfs out there about bitcoin and the most important one is bitcoin's whitepaper. Once again, it's not that it's not existing. You simply didn't do your research.
915  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Bitcoin has power nowadays ? on: May 23, 2017, 02:08:57 PM
I think it boils down to the demand and supply of bitcoins on the market which is the main determinant of Bitcoin prices and so it's powerful these days because there's an increased demand for it globally and everyone seems to want to join the train to make profits therefore it's becoming powerful.
Yup, that's right, I think that the major factor driving bitcoin to moon now a days is that the bitcoins are legalized in Japan and most of the Japanese people invest their money so they have found a new investment and it is a good one watching that a bitcoin was about $0.008 in start and now it is over $2k, so they can see huge gains with little investment and also supply is limited to only twenty one million coins only, so less coins and more demand....

One of the biggest reason why it goes up over these past years is because of this forum, there are thousands of people trying to get some bitcoin using these forum, and know that there are different ways to earn bitcoin and some are already in here. Giving the information they need about not just bitcoin but altcoins too, so basically this forum does some huge impact regarding bitcoin market, this forum expands the demand and made it to a different level.

I wouldn't think that it's a "big" reason at all. Bitcointalk has been here ever since. I think that all information and all dramas about bitcoin and altcoins are already here. All the FUDS, different type of scams, and the trolls are also here. You can say that this forum is where people freely post stuffs since (let's face it) moderation has always been a problem here. I see people here and there posting FUDs as if they are just casually stating facts about bitcoin.

I think the purpose of bitcointalk to the bitcoin world is that it gives people hope. It gives people the idea that at least there's one forum that's really really active even though the major reason why this forum is so active is because of signature campaign.
916  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin goes up very high should i buy a house? on: May 23, 2017, 01:47:28 PM
Offcourse why not. It is your money, you can do whatever you want with it. Buying a house is a good decision. House is an asset. In future you can sell it for better price. The most important thing is you need a house as you stated without mortgage. So yeah you should if you had that much bitcoin.

Houses don't necessarily get a higher price in the future. There are towns that are practically already a ghost town by now just because it was outgrown by a nearby town and so people chose to migrate there. The houses in that place went from "This shit's fancy and expensive." to "How many dust for this huge mansion?" There's no more people in the place, there's no more neighborhood, so the houses are now valueless.

On the other hand, if your house belong to that developing town, then the house should have a higher price.
917  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: May 23, 2017, 01:21:06 PM
Paper money's future is still be the same because we needed it for less fortunate people, due to no capability of computer litteracy. We have to see to it that bitcoin can be more progressive in the future and it is already starting now, digital is the mode of spending in the future and cash money using paper will also be limited in usage. Bitcoin will be used only by those who are rich in bitcoin investments as well as it's litteracy of being a digital currency engagement.

That is a bit harsh, we need it for the less fortunate people? there are a lot of computer illiterate in the world, do you think that will stop them using such currency? And, why will they need to use a computer by the way if they can use it or either withdraw it in a bank or ATM machine. I think you are being ignorant on other people what might do, and the future of the paper money might be vague, but we all know that paper money will stay as it is. Bitcoin might not be a good currency if it's price continue to increase, it will be just an asset for investors, if you think of it, most people look at it, as an asset, not a currency.

Strongly yes? Look up digital divide and you'd know that these people are in no way going to use bitcoins unless they stop being computer illiterate. How are they going to use bitcoins without being computer literate first? Yep, you can convert your bitcoins to digital fiat and then cash it out using ATMs but what is he even going to cash out?

If the price of bitcoin continue to rise, then the people like us will be swimming in money while other people will try to follow what we've done. We diversified our investments so here we are, we now have a good asset. People look at bitcoins as an asset, but isn't fiat basically the same thing? People also invested in fiat so the value of your fiat was made.

When fiat gets out of the scene, bitcoin will finally be used as a currency. It's the point of bitcoin after all. It can stand alone and it can replace all these biased monetary system.
918  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: May 23, 2017, 01:08:25 PM
I agree with the survey. Trading is the best way. Especially of you don't have a lot of money.

Trading is good source of earn money, but it is not easy way, it is time taking and many time we have lost our money. Trading same like gambling, many risk are here in it.
But in my point of view, now signature campaign is best source of income especially who have little capital and want to earn bitcoin without use any capital.
 

Earning from signature campaign doesn't require any capital the only thing it requires is time and efforts to post in it on daily basis and it is the safest and better method of earning bitcoins in compare to other methods where the risk of loosing money is higher and if you combine your earnings from signature campaign with trading after learning the basic then it will give you best income at regular intervals but you should choose trading only if you have sound knowledge of it.

I really think that it's a case-to-case thing. If you're not interested in forum or don't know much about bitcoin anyway, signature campaign is not that good for you. We're all at different levels. Some can do signature campaign but wouldn't because their time is much more valuable than the amount that they can earn here. There are also places, mostly 1st world countries, wherein having an actual side job is much better than a bitcoin side job.

Some do have the money and knowledge to trade so trading is the best source of bitcoin to them. But since we don't all get to Earth with money and everyone's not knowledgeable about anything when they come to life, you should have a strategy too. Learn about bitcoin, and then do signature campaign. Save up enough money, learn how to trade, and start doing trading.
919  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buying Drugs with Bitcoin ? on: May 23, 2017, 12:49:10 PM
no no no no no i myself do not use the evil web only reputable shop in netherlands
Yes, why do people always use the good thing into bad. Ill also do it because all of the bitcoin that have im going to spend it with for purpose and not in a bad thing like drugs. I think it will not good if bitcoin can buy it.

No need to blame Bitcoin for drug purchases. As far as I know, most of the drug purchases are done using physical cash. Also, a lot of darkmarkets selling drugs for Bitcoin has closed down recently.

Not to mention that literally every drug purchase before bitcoin were done with physical cash. Bitcoin didn't introduce people to using drugs. Those that buy drugs using bitcoins have been using drugs ever since. There's nothing about drugs in bitcoin's whitepaper. Bitcoin isn't advocating any of these illegal stuffs. People just learned that it's better to use bitcoin than cash when doing transactions that should be hidden.

The guy is saying that it might not be good for bitcoins if you can buy drugs using it. Uhmm. Honey, you can buy drugs using fiat too. But is fiat considered "bad" at all. "Good" things can and always will be used in a bad way. That's just how things are.
920  Economy / Services / Re: [AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW] Advertise on my Personal Message space for FREE!! on: May 23, 2017, 12:26:16 PM
Since no one's interested, I'm just going to lock this topic and completely abandon what I'm doing. Tongue
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