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781  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: June 20, 2017, 09:26:51 AM
I know most of us will claim to dislike the idea of a crypto bank... but in my experience, people new to Bitcoin will be very afraid of the idea to keep their own seed or private keys or even wallet address. My family for instance always ask me "what is my email password again?" and every time will lock themselves out because of wrong password.

So I know they would rather create an account somewhere for someone else to keep their crypto safe.

This is where a notepad comes in handy. You can either use a physical notepad (notebook pad) or the notepad application on your computer. There's not much big deal on putting your private keys and email passwords on your computer as long as no one's touching it except you. I knew that I would eventually forget my password since I don't use the same password twice and so I just write it down. That's also what I did with my parent's password.

Actually, this is where the ETF topic goes in. A lot of people want to invest in bitcoins or buy bitcoins but do not have the knowledge. They don't have the time or that they are not interested about the whole idea of bitcoins at all. They are just here for the profits that they will make when the price of bitcoin goes up. Unfortunately for them, you have to at least understand the basics in order to invest in bitcoins.
782  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think are the biggest disadvantages of Bitcoin? on: June 20, 2017, 09:07:36 AM
I think the disadvantages of Bitcoin are the transaction fee is so high and slow, Uncertain Future No one can say with certainty what will come of bitcoin. As it remains today, bitcoin is very speculative as it is still an experimental type of technology.
Lack of recourse If you lose the wallet which had bitcoins stored in it, you have lost all of your bitcoins in that wallet. You cannot regain it and they are simply lost forever.

Uncertain future: What future is even certain? Even the whole humanity has no certain future. One thing is certain about bitcoin, though. The idea will always live off. Even when bitcoin goes down because of reasons, people will always use cryptocurrencies. One thing that you can do to deal with the uncertain future of bitcoin is to learn how to trade. Learn how to diversify your money so even when bitcoin has fallen, you have your money on other things. Although I really think that bitcoin is the strongest one right now. All the other coins are just there so that people can make more bitcoins.

Lack of recourse: That's just your own negligence. That's not bitcoin's fault.
783  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: You only lose if... on: June 20, 2017, 08:56:57 AM
You only lose if... you invest in worthless coins that clearly have no future.
You only lose if... you invest all of your money in one coin and sell as soon as the price decreases.
You only lose if... you don't research the coin you're thinking about investing in, before you buy it.

But it's also possible to lose when you invest in a coin that clearly has a future, hold the coin as long as you can even with the price decrease, and research a lot about the coin before buying it. Once the developer has ran away and there are no more updates, the coin will die in just a matter of hours. It will become a race. The last one to sell will be a bagholder of a shit coin.

Some coins have excellent plans all along but never get to do it because they never actually planned to do so. Beware of devs that only want to make a quick buck from investors.
784  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How can we encourage local businesses to accept BTC? on: June 20, 2017, 08:31:09 AM
3-5% is still a large difference than almost 100% transaction fees for bitcoin's microtransactions. You can never hide the fact that bitcoin users would know that when they are going to do a microtransaction, the transaction fee is almost equal to the amount that they are sending. You're just going to waste your time setting up all these "we accept bitcoin" things since most bitcoin users wouldn't use that service anyway if they are being practical.

Lol. Credit card machines? You can literally just plug in a credit card scanner to your phone in order to have a card transaction.

400 satoshi cost 1 cent of dollar currently.

EDIT: big bull I said, forgot to add the bytes

size of transaction=in * 146 + out * 33 + 10 gives 189 bytes minimum, with BTC = 2500 USD this would make a minimum of 1.89 USD. If the creditcard charges 3%, the BTC is better for payments over 63 USD.


But most local businesses are selling simple stuffs like coffee, fruits, vegetables, donuts, etc. Those stuffs don't go higher than 63$. Nice computation, by the way, but that just gives us a conclusion that bitcoin is only good to use for huge purchases. As the time goes by, the transaction fee is going higher and higher. I was surprised last night seeing that a small transaction costs 0.002BTC for transaction fee. As time goes by, that 63$ for btc being a better payment method goes higher and higher. It might be 63$ today but it can be 70$ next week, and so on.


And I know the answer after all research. Customers should have discounts when they will to pay with btc.

Sure discounts attract customers. But as a local business owner, are you prepared to charge less to people just because they are using bitcoins? You're lowering your profit with this choice.
785  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: June 20, 2017, 08:20:59 AM
Yes, I really don't like the idea of having a bitcoin bank, when bitcoin increases we can't expect the real amount of the value of bitcoin, it is better to store them in our btc wallet and wait until it increases so at the same time we also earning while storing our bitcoin in our btc wallet, unlike in bank. We don't need btc bank at all.

That makes no sense since bitcoin banks surely will work just like any other exchanges work. When the price has increased and you're withdrawing your btc to the banks through ATMs (fiat money), then it should cost you lesser bitcoins since they will be following the buy/sell rate. It would not make sense at all if bitcoin banks only store your bitcoins and nothing else. Because what's the purpose of the physical bitcoin banks that they have.

Bitcoin banks surely will be fiat and bitcoin together. You can withdraw your bitcoins as fiat and vice versa. If it's just fiat, then it would be just a regular bank. But if it's just bitcoin, then their "bitcoin bank" is pretty much just a bitcoin wallet just like electrum. They have to combine the two to have sense.
786  Economy / Services / Re: [CFNP] DiceBack.com Signature on: June 20, 2017, 08:07:31 AM
Is this campaign still running? No more updates happening about the payments. Nevermind, confirmed it myself. This campaign is already over.
787  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns [Last update: 19-Jun-2017] on: June 20, 2017, 07:58:06 AM
Dao.Casino campaign got ended after 1 week. -stupid snarky emoticon-
Civic Campaign is full now and not accepting new members.
Applied these changes to the OP as well.

Civic is actually still PNYC but they are already full Smiley
788  Economy / Services / Re: Tweet about @CoinMarketApps and earn BTC [ROUND 1] on: June 19, 2017, 05:14:54 PM
Twitter link: https://twitter.com/_EasyBTC/
Followers: 4870
Tweet link: https://twitter.com/_EasyBTC/status/876850619645952002
BTC Address: 3P5FtB56EL6t7vvcifsdyBGbvtsvkCVVeq
789  Economy / Services / Re: Dao.Casino | Twitter Campaign ✔ | [Closed] on: June 19, 2017, 03:37:03 PM

Thanks! I received the payment too.
790  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why some people prefer Bitcoin over fiat ? on: June 19, 2017, 07:51:34 AM
I have read that several underground transactions involve bitcoin. So perhaps some preferred bitcoin over fiat because of its anonymity. Highly concealed transactions involving drugs, arms, assassination, and the like use bitcoin as a form of payment. Especially in the deep web, a large amount of bitcoin is changing hands. And as far as I know, 96% of what's going on in the web are in the deep web. What we can access through the famous browsers are only the surface.

Satoshi Nakamoto, a genius, of course, did not create bitcoin solely for this. Just like anything else that is neither bad nor good, it is how people use it that taints its reputation. Our current fiat currencies were invented for commercial purposes but some crooked-minded people use them for some bad activities. As such, you cannot blame bitcoin or any fiat currencies.

Sometimes I wonder how would I inform everyone in this forum that bitcoin is nothing compared to how much fiat money is being used in illegal transactions. Okay, bitcoin gives you anonymity privileges. But that doesn't surpass the amount of money that have transacted for illegal activities in fiat.

Just like bitcoin, a gun wasn't made for the sole purpose of killing innocent people. Yet here we are. We have terrorist attacks almost everyday. Electricity was discovered and the discoverer thought it will be very useful for machines and whatnot. Yet we have an electric chair which kills people. A lot of things are being used for things that are different than the creator's objectives.
791  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BItcoin needs to die on: June 19, 2017, 07:24:05 AM
What use is Bitcoin if in 9 years you cant even buy groceries with this shit

You cant build a business on bitcoin because of the volatility and even if you try to runa business on bitcoin you have to wait forever for a transaction to be sent

whats the point of bitcoin, if you cant do anything with this shit?

"Wow, this project has made a lot of people earn good amount of money. It's also in its infancy stage so buying some coins now guarantees profit in the future. Wait, you can't buy anything with this currency yet? This project has to die!!"

- niokobo 2017.


Like the saying goes, be the change that you want to see in the world. If you can't buy anything with bitcoins, then maybe it's a good idea to start your very own company that accepts bitcoin for payments. Since we're almost always uptrend and it's not mandatory to withdraw your funds during a downtrend, then holding the coins is not a bad idea to counter the volatility of bitcoins.

I can only imagine you holding ten million dollars in an underdeveloped country and since they are not accepting your dollars, you're just going to throw it away. That's the logic of your post.
792  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where are we going with cryptocurrency? on: June 19, 2017, 07:11:24 AM
As soon as majority of the world is informed and knows about digital currency, what do you think will happen? No matter how good it sounds to traditional banking, how much of the population will make cryptocurrency grow? 

Honestly, I think that there would be lots of dramas as we grow in numbers. Just like in everything else, humans tend to destroy things over simple and silly stuffs. There would be people, might even grow to teams, spreading FUD out there just so they can pump/dump the coins that they like. People will be busy trading. Never have I seen a bitcoin user that didn't eventually go full time on trading by quitting their day job. I guess it's because we have very low pay rate in my country but I also talked to some people in slack. They also quit their day job to go all in in making money from cryptocurrencies. We all want a money making method in which we can decide when to do work, and when to take a rest.
793  Economy / Economics / Re: Worst bitcoin decision you've ever made? on: June 19, 2017, 06:46:47 AM
My worst bitcoin decision is when last year i'm not trust about the halving and thought halving is a joke. But i'm really wrong on that time, actually i want invest big on bitcoin on that day before the halving. But i cancel it because i'm afraid the halving is only a gossip.

And this is why you want to be friends with Google. With whatever hardship or confusion that you get in life, google that thing. It doesn't matter how silly or how dumb you would look like if somebody sees you Googling that stuff. It only takes 2 minutes to find out that bitcoin halving is true and that it actually helps the price increase in the long run.

Back then, I thought that bitcoin halving means the price would double. But when I did my research, it's the miner's rewards that's getting divided by two. This means that the new coins being mined is becoming less and less which helps with the price increase for the supply law.
794  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How can we encourage local businesses to accept BTC? on: June 19, 2017, 06:34:18 AM
If you tell them the advantages about bitcoin that would be the best way to encourage them to accepr BTC. Hoping soon local business would accept btc.

And they will ask you, what are the most popular and basic advantages of bitcoin when they are going to accept it? You can say that if they have customers offshore they can tell their customers to send their payments by means of bitcoin. And by that way, that is going to make their transactions fast and convenient.

Please tell me you're being sarcastic. Gone are the days when bitcoin has fast transactions and low fees. You're not going to buy 3$ worth of coffee and then spend 2 more dollars for the transaction fee in bitcoins. And even with this amount of transaction fee, you'd still have to wait a couple of hours before the transactions comes through. Plus, it's not convenient since the store owner has to wait before he can ever get those coins. We're still not at the point when a store looks cool when it says "Bitcoin accepted here." since we're so far away from mass adoption.

Fiat is still the best when it comes to microtransactions. No transaction fee. Instant confirmations. That's fiat for you.

Still it is cheaper for the business to accept BTC fees-wise, since they pay 3 to 5% to credit card companies for the "privilege" to use their service - putting 400+ satoshi/B is far cheaper. Oh, did I mention they also need to buy the credit card machines?

3-5% is still a large difference than almost 100% transaction fees for bitcoin's microtransactions. You can never hide the fact that bitcoin users would know that when they are going to do a microtransaction, the transaction fee is almost equal to the amount that they are sending. You're just going to waste your time setting up all these "we accept bitcoin" things since most bitcoin users wouldn't use that service anyway if they are being practical.

Lol. Credit card machines? You can literally just plug in a credit card scanner to your phone in order to have a card transaction.
795  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: In what situation would Bitcoin die? on: June 18, 2017, 10:25:18 AM
How and why would the end of bitcoin (and any other cryptocurrency) occur? Value decrease? Legality issues? Different technology/ideas to supersede it?
How and why would the end of bitcoin (and any other cryptocurrency) occur? Value decrease? Legality issues? Different technology/ideas to supersede it?
If an attack in the Bitcoin network occur there might be a possibility that bitcoin may stop functioning. Attacking Bitcoin nodes may intercept bitcoin traffic thus resulting in a delay to block propagation that can cause a significant amount of mining power to be wasted.


Not at all. When there's an attack on the bitcoin network or the 51% attack, it would run just the same but others might become terrified and sell their bitcoins. Hence, making the price of bitcoin go down. Bitcoin is decentralized and taking down nodes of it will be useless since there are tons of other people running a node out there. That's the beauty of bitcoins. Do you really think no one has tried attacking the bitcoin network before? Of course there is but there's none that has made enough damage so far even the PBoC that we thought would take bitcoin down only made a momentary damage.
796  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What to do with the people who don't like Bitcoin? on: June 18, 2017, 08:05:31 AM
People who hate bitcoin are usually statists. It's not worthy your time to argue with someone who worship the State.



I honestly think that statists get paid on what they are doing. I see people out there worshiping certain politicians but that's just because they get paid to do so. They bash the current government because a federation is paying them or should we all pretend and say "donate" to them. Honestly, why would you want the state to take over everything? Do they really have to control everything? Is your government that good and clever amongst everyone that you put all of your trust to them? I don't think so. It's just all about money.

We like bitcoin because it gives us profit and statists like worshiping the state because of the benefits that they get for doing so. I mean, who has the time to have defend the state over simply arguments.
797  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think are the biggest disadvantages of Bitcoin? on: June 18, 2017, 07:42:56 AM
The biggest issue would be the incompatibility with the financial system which are overly watched and observed, the fact that not every bitcoin address is linked to someone's name and identity make it hard for regulated financial institutions to use bitcoin as a currency

But that's just the point of bitcoin, not getting taken over by a financial institution. Bitcoin should not be regulated and we should all remain anonymous here. The essence of bitcoin will quickly die when the banks take over it. It's a good thing that they can't do it by making up new laws. They would have to buy the majority of the coins in order to have control which might not even be enough to have power over other bitcoin users.


What's preventing Bitcoins from being accepted as mainstream payment forms? I'm working on a new blockchain and would like to learn what drawbacks of Bitcoin urgently need to be improved Wink
I think the biggest disadvantage of Bitcoin for now is that the very big fees of every single transaction that people need to pay at least 1$ for any amount of Bitcoin, even if 0.001 BTC or 0.0001 BTC

But on a much happier thought people that are transacting a high amount of money only has to pay the same transaction fee. Bitcoin is just outpriced for poor people, honestly. Even the transaction fees.
798  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: June 17, 2017, 02:20:41 PM
Probably my worst mistake in gambling is the same as most people. It's going back to gambling even when I know that I'm just going to lose whatever money I put to the gambling site. Yes, I can withdraw them anytime. But can I? I will always have that desire to gamble and gamble. At some point I might win but I would end up desiring even more profits. The only time that I'm going to stop is when I have nothing to gamble. We are never satisfied with our profits.

What makes it my worst mistake isn't the extremity of it but the amount of times it happened. Back then, I would gamble all day and night. I thought I was just trying to make friends but nope. It has become my daily routine to gamble. I eventually stopped because I always wanted to learn new things in life and surely gambling doesn't taught us that much.
799  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: June 17, 2017, 10:45:58 AM
0.042BTC won't even cover my hotel let alone food, flight etc.. But I think 99% of people make 0BTC on your signature campaign. I make 0 and I'm here more then most learning what to trade and I make 0! That is why I know it's a lie, and dont' say you make who cares what you make you are 1 in 10,000, what do the 10,000 make? They make 0 (99% of of them). We are talking about the 99% not you!

Truth and freedom is all we have in this life you twist the truth abou tyour signature campaigns which hurts others they think they can make money with it when they can't look at me I make 0!

At this point I'm starting to think that you don't really know what signature campaigns are. You have to be enrolled to a company. Like in my signature, I'm enrolled in Bitsler and the owner of the website pays me for advertising his website. The reason why you're not earning anything from signature campaign is because you're not enrolled in one. Click on the link that I just gave you and try to enroll on one of them.

I'm not a 1 in 10,000. A lot of people are actually enrolled in a signature campaign and they are making money from it. Look at the signatures of other people. They are doing some promotion for a company and that company pays them.

I'm also starting to think that you thought you get paid by the forum automatically when you wear any signature. That's not how it works, apparently.
800  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think? on: June 17, 2017, 10:35:04 AM
Do you think the richest families or personalities in the world would be interested in using bitcoins??
And if so, would that be a good thing for us small people or negative??
I mean rich people are capabale of so much things, so it makes me wonder..

I guess so. The richest people sure do show interest on things that makes them earn money, that's how they got to the top. Rich people can buy bitcoins just for fun, just to have some "practice trading". I think the rich people buying bitcoins are a good thing for us, the smaller people. Even when they manage to buy the majority of the coins, that's a lot better to us since we can finally sell our bitcoins at a much higher price. I don't really see any negative side except the fact that they can accumulate almost all bitcoins that new investors will be afraid that the one owner can sell all of his shares and everyone else end up as bagholders.
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