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101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: September 12, 2017, 06:58:34 AM
There was a time when a dev launched a coin with a very small premine percentage then had it all accounted for, and it was STILL was deemed "scammy".

Now ?
Holy mother of fucking god damn god !
You all ALLOW dev's (if you want to call them that) to simply premine *ALL* of the coins then keep vast insane amounts of them.. then you let them keep and even stake them via POS systems.
..such as this DeepOnion scam bullshit. ..or ETHEREUM ..or RIPPLE ..or

It's true -- it's a very sad state of affairs. The amount of dumb money coming into altcoins (because Bitcoin is "too expensive") is really absurd, and this has really caused a proliferation of very scammy projects intent upon soaking up all that money on the table.

This project is especially bad. Not only are they are scamming the vast majority of their signature campaign participants. So they are getting an absurd amount of free advertising from people who wrongly believe they will receive something from the "airdrop." But it's also a copy/paste shitcoin where the devs took a massive pre-mine and are openly staking the premine.

I'm from the days when LTC was considered a scam. If I only knew then what I know now..... Roll Eyes
102  Economy / Economics / Re: China Will Kill Bitcoin: A Conspiracy Theory on: September 12, 2017, 06:48:13 AM
Well, according to the Wall Street Journal: "The Bank of China has led a draft of instructions that would ban Chinese exchanges from providing virtual-currency trading services".  This just happened over the weekend.

If you read closely, and then read the article the WSJ and Bloomberg are citing, you'll see that there is no evidence that digital currency trading will be banned. Not only is the report totally anonymous, but it doesn't issue a directive against digital currency trading, but rather fiat/crypto trading. That's why Okcoin announced that if the report were true, they would switch operations to a digital assets exchange, rather than principally a BTCCNY exchange.

Here's what George Kikvadze‏ from Bitfury had to say yesterday:
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Spoke to well-connected contacts in China. The latest rumors are just that. May affect small and unregulated players. But thats it!!
103  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Chinese government has banned some exchange on: September 11, 2017, 09:15:21 PM
Read in the news. "The ninth of September, the state newspaper Caixin published that the government of China is an ongoing debate on the question of suspension of activities of the bitcoin exchanges on the domestic market of the country. Three bitcoin exchanges – the largest in China (BTCC, OKCoin, Huobi), said, confident that local regulators will not ban the trading platform. Head of strategic planning Blockstream and expert on cryptocurrency exchanges Samson MOU explained the situation. According to the economist, the statement said publication can be false, as for him not standing any reliable source. But many analysts believe that the edition had inside information obtained from government agencies."
I'm leaning towards the worst case scenario. China can realistically deny bitcoin in the country. and it will be just a magical event in the world of cryptocurrency. Shatter the myth of decentralization of cryptocurrency. And credibility just simply disappear..... Who can guarantee that you and your country authorities will not come to this decision?)

The cited report did not even suggest banning BTC or cryptocurrencies. In a way, the alleged directives highlight the decentralization of Bitcoin: they can only prohibit fiat markets and fiat gateways.

They cannot stop P2P cryptocurrency trade, and the report seems to openly acknowledge that. Okcoin, in response, said, "If the report is true, we'll stop BTC/CNY trades & become a P2P platform for digital assets." https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/906461180415197185

The authorities prohibiting the use of Bitcoin was always a tragic scenario for quick mainstream adoption, but not for Bitcoin itself. I think we are past the point (in terms of legitimacy) where one government prohibiting its use really matters in the long run.
104  Economy / Economics / Re: China Will Kill Bitcoin: A Conspiracy Theory on: September 11, 2017, 09:04:20 PM
probably they will start a new currency a bitcoin like so that they can compete with the existing one... well... they are very much into imitation so... they will imitate it eventually.... they would proclaim themselves as superpower as the U.S. is indebted to China for quite sometime now...

The Chinese government is likely developing their own digital currency. According to cnLedger‏, there's already a smartphone app available called "Blockchain e-Wallet" which is developed and designed by the Bank of China. It supposedly uses blockchain technology and can be linked to Bank of China debit cards. There is apparently no bitcoin/crypto interface in the app.

I think the Bank of China would be unlikely to develop this app entirely independently of the government.

See here: https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/907095022385823744
105  Economy / Economics / Re: China Will Kill Bitcoin: A Conspiracy Theory on: September 11, 2017, 07:04:26 AM
It's unlikely they will try to ban BTC... China wants to be a new center for
global finance. Bitcoin is at the cutting edge of that. Banning it or even making
transactions very difficult would run counter to their global aspirations.

More likely is getting onto the systems of the various exchanges, setting up
monitoring, backdoors, etc. Why kill the system when you can profit from it?

Bingo. No government can look around at what is happening in the Bitcoin/cryptocurrency space today and believe that they are going to disappear. Either get with the program or get left behind. There is only so much time to develop an ideal regulatory environment before other countries become the hubs for cryptocurrency finance. Just look at Vietnam, legalizing cryptocurrencies and outlining a regulatory framework.

I don't think the ban on ICOs will remain permanent, either. But the amount of money being put into this space is becoming large enough that the government feels they need to get a handle on it (AML, outflowing capital, unregulated securities, etc).
106  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Do NOT trust payments with https://www.coinpayments.net/ on: September 11, 2017, 06:07:30 AM
...  Basically what happened here is that you sent a payment directly to the scammer. Coinpayments doesn't actually control the keys here.

Basically if I had not been misleaded by the coinpayments.net payment gate (and as an ordinary person I had the right to think that the participation of a third party is primarily necessary to protect the transaction from fraud and not just for technical convenience of shop's employees) I would have never bought anything directly from those damn scammers

I hear that. But personally I'd have never gotten involved with such a scammy sounding site. Even if the deal were escrowed, you're bound to experience some hassle at least. When it comes to mining hardware, you should deal directly with the manufacturer. The chances of being scammed are very high.

I don't think Bitpay or Coinbase offers any protection in this context, either. They do refunds, but only as coordinated with vendors. If you get scammed by a vendor, I think all you can do is file a police report... Undecided
107  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Chinese government has banned some exchange on: September 10, 2017, 10:50:23 PM
This can be true because China holds the largest volume of bitcoin and there are many transactions in China. If this is true, then might be the cause of the great price deflation of bitcoin and this is not good for all of us.

This is no longer the case. Earlier this year, volume on the Chinese exchanges drastically dropped after the government audited them. Now, we see that Japan and the West have much more influence on the market (at least according to volume) than previously thought. Trading volumes are much more distributed throughout the globe now.

It's true, though, that China is extremely relevant to Bitcoin mining and ASIC manufacturing. That hasn't changed, although we are now seeing Japanese companies enter that space as well.
108  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: September 10, 2017, 10:29:05 AM
I heard they didn't pay some people on their signature campaign I have a friend who joined on their signature campaign and he got accepted. On the first payment, he didn't received any. He contacted the manager of the campaign but it didn't say anything. So he just left the campaign.

That some is more than 1000+ accounts. Read the main DeepOnion ANN thread and community forum at deeponion.org. There are more people complaining after ban then the persons shill in main ANN thread.

That's exactly what should've happened. DeepOnion is not free money for everyone who registers and surely not for those who give up on the project because they did not receive something.

Then why are you guys saying "Get Your FREE Coins NOW!" and "Free Airdrop!" in your signatures? It sounds like the majority of people wearing those signatures expected to get some free coins, but didn't. This is one of the few projects where "airdrop" not only means 1) work, but 2) work you don't get paid for.

All the while, the developers, moderators and shills continue to gaslight. "DeepOnion is not free money for everyone who registers." Reconcile that statement with your signature.
109  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Japan’s Entertainment Giant DMM Launching Bitcoin Mining Farm and Pool on: September 10, 2017, 10:16:03 AM
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DMM Group announced on Friday that it has established a Virtual Currency Division which will operate a mining business beginning in October.

“After completion of successful trials in October 2017, ‘DMM Pool’ will be released for world-wide use within the year 2017,” the company declared. “During the year 2018, DMM will be one of the 10 largest mining farms in the world.”

In March 2016, the e-commerce giant started accepting bitcoin payments through Coincheck, a leading Japanese bitcoin exchange and merchant service provider.

https://news.bitcoin.com/japans-entertainment-giant-dmm-launching-bitcoin-mining-farm-and-pool/

Great news. I actually thought it was a typo at first, thinking it was the GMO news. As for displacing China's dominance in mining... that might take a while. We'll have to see how things pan out for these Japanese mining ventures in 2018, and also what Bitfury has in store.

A lot can change between now and the end of H1 2018, when we can expect GMO's operation to have launched, so I'm glad DMM has an even more ambitious timeline to become operational. It'll also be interesting to see what Bitmain does in the meantime...
110  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think about DeepOnion? on: September 09, 2017, 06:19:32 AM
This project is really useful, because it allows to you to be absolutely anonymous: your real IP address won't be shown in the network because DeepOnion works through the TOR network.

Let's be realistic, though. That's not "absolutely anonymous" at all. Law enforcement agencies have been running TOR exit nodes and honey pots on the dark web for years now. It's a lot better than being tied to your ISP's address. But it's not anonymity.

One should always run a no-log VPN beneath TOR as an extra line of protection if you are really concerned about privacy, and if you want to protect yourself from would-be snoopers. But even TOR + VPN is no guarantee in this day and age. But it at least means you won't be low-hanging fruit.
111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: So I just lost 5.000 $ right? ETHEREUM Destination address typo error on: September 09, 2017, 06:10:02 AM
I was doing my first ethereum transaction right now as I got paid this way for the very, very first time.

Received my coins here on my mobile wallet:
0xeE183DC2242b25ef8AE86caf4FEF6d18794893c8
https://etherscan.io/address/0xee183dc2242b25ef8ae86caf4fef6d18794893c8

And sent them right away to an exchange as I was familiar way more with bitcoin than ethereum. As the mobile wallet's QR code reader function (Coinomi) did not work at all, I had to manually type the destination address and of course did a typo.

It was supposed to be sent to: 0x3f13171bedaf7a2b6e69fc12e08ff0429d8b058b

And I sent them there: 0x3f13171bedaf7a2b6e69fc12e08ff0429d8b059b
https://etherscan.io/address/0x3f13171bedaf7a2b6e69fc12e08ff0429d8b059b

I would only feel comfortable manually typing private keys (e.g. to import paper wallets), because if you screw up, there is no loss. You should always copy and paste addresses. I would have thought Ethereum addresses included a checksum, like Bitcoin, to prevent this sort of thing.

Well it appears your screwed. It's a valid address, that's why it worked. Same thing can happen with bitcoin. I'm sorry for your loss.

It's very unlikely to happen with Bitcoin. That's why Satoshi designed Bitcoin addresses to include a checksum for testing validity. So if you accidentally delete the last couple digits, for instance, your wallet won't send.
112  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Sending ethereum to bitfinex on: September 09, 2017, 06:01:51 AM
Hello I want to deposit some ethereum on bitfinex but I understand that they don't support smart contracts, I am using myetherwallet would you guys say it's safe for me to go ahead with the transaction or advice against it? Anyone got experience in this?

The coin I want to buy isn't availble on other exchanges (yet). And I'm too much of a poor broke bastard to go buy bitcoin to support my endavour.

All help is appreciated.

I had the exact same concern as you just a few days ago. I don't send ETH out of my wallet (MyEtherWallet) very often and I had never sent to Bitfinex. I took a chance with a smaller amount at first and just did a typical send (21000 gas limit), and it arrived at Bitfinex with no issues. Confirmed and released into my account in ~15 minutes. So I would say, go for it. Just don't leave funds on the exchange for long. You never know what might happen... Lips sealed
113  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China bans exchangers on: September 08, 2017, 08:41:30 PM
Caixin came out on twitter to dispute this statement and declared it false. Chinese did not ban exchangers and I wonder why they didn't do their assignments in the first place before dropping such a statement that caused a huge crash in the market earlier today.

Could you provide a link to the clarification from Caixin? I checked the main @caixin account, but can't find anything. I'm sure the reason for this story was to manipulate the markets. Somebody took out a huge short and is now collecting.

We've seen nothing official from the Chinese government and no other news sources confirm the story. I call BS. Anybody remember when the People's Bank of China banned Bitcoin (over and over again) a few years ago? This looks just like that.
114  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Nova Exchange community thread on: September 08, 2017, 08:35:07 PM
This is posted on the news page:

News
2017-09-08 20:46 - We have to block IP-ranges
We are still under attack and this time it is the login page that we can't disable. Instead we have blocked some IP-ranges where most of the attacks are coming from.
2017-09-08 20:31 - Registration page disabled for the weekend
We have disabled registration page now to free up resources since we are under constant attack. During next week we will hopefully be able to release a new registration function that will be resistant against this type of attack.

I managed to log on after about 6 attempts

Unfortunately, it really seems like they don't have sufficient resources to withstand constant attacks, which is a very basic requirement for any functional exchange.

It also makes me worry about their security; how much funds/effort are going towards penetration testing? Probably not much, if they can't even keep a functioning registration page up. Be careful sending any funds here!
115  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: September 08, 2017, 07:09:02 AM
They previously said no verification was required to trade. I am concerned about this answer, though:

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"Do I need to undergo verification in order to start trading on a new site?" If the balance of the account on the new site is replenished in koin, then no. If in fiat, then yes.

Does that mean that if you don't take the refund now, and you have your fiat balance transferred to the new site, that you must verify?
I think that's what it means.

No one will have fiat in new site.  You will have coins and fiat tokens.  The question is whether the fiat token counts as fiat.   I think they are only saying if you deposit or withdrawal fiat, then you will need to be verified.  Still waiting for clarification though

They said there will be no conversions once the new site is launched. That means if you held fiat on BTC-e, that some will be returned as "USD" and some will be returned as "USDET." That's what it looks like from the token tab as well.

It's pretty obvious by now that they intend to offer fiat trading/deposits/withdrawals. My gut says that doesn't seem sustainable, but billions of dollars are laundered every day. So, why not? If they can get some minimal level of fiat processing through whatever shady third party payment processors, perhaps some confidence can return. After all, the BTC-e code economy, I believe, was magnitudes larger than the actual fiat deposit/withdrawal volume of the site. Time will tell.
116  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC Transaction fee on: September 08, 2017, 06:58:40 AM
Use wallets that do have dynamic fees such as Electrum and blockchain.info. These services often imposed their own fees based on the lowest possible fee on the network for the transaction to be confirmed within the next block. Also, I believe that some mobile wallets support dynamic fees too such as Mycellium and could be handy as well.

Dynamic fee calculation sounds great, but it often doesn't work very well, and leaves users paying much more than necessary. I consistently send BTC using Electrum on the lowest fee setting (within 25 blocks). It's almost always included in the next block, and has never been delayed more than 2 blocks.

Anyone using the high fee setting to get immediate confirmation on Electrum (and other wallets...Core is even worse) is getting totally reamed on fees. Every single time. And I think this has created a bad feedback cycle where 1) users believe a high fee is necessary when it's not, then 2) persistently complain about the high fees.

Typical users have many less inputs to use on average than services like exchanges, and should expect to transact for considerably lower fees.

So yes, use Electrum, but you should probably use the lower fee settings if you use dynamic fees. Or just manually set much lower fees. And use RBF if necessary.
117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Why do you hold BitcoinCash? on: September 08, 2017, 06:49:28 AM
I have none and am thinking about hedging.  Why do you HODL?

I held them in the first place because I didn't want to screw up and lose any BTC trying to extract them. I wasn't sure how its replay protection worked, and I also didn't trust these scammy wallets that came out of nowhere, like "Electron Cash" and "Bitcoin ABC."

When I researched a bit more and figured out how to safely extract my BCH, I came to the conclusion that it was best to hold for a while. Like any altcoin, it was likely to base for a while and eventually get pumped, especially with powerful backers like Bitmain. I guess there's the tiny, tiny possibility that it could overtake BTC as well, but that seems to become less likely each day. Then again, BCH might be able to capitalize on Segwit2x drama/fears as we head into November.
118  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Users Should Use Linux Not Windows on: September 07, 2017, 11:26:55 PM
I knew this already and many are suggesting linux instead of windows. But I'll stay for now in windows the laptop that I'm using before is now my hardware wallet with electrum on it. And I'm only connecting it to internet just for synchronizing. Actually, it depends on the user if he isn't visiting any site that contains these malicious spywares, you are safe. Just be a responsible surfer and you'll be fine.

This is generally true. Wallet stealing malware has much more to do with irresponsible security practices and social engineering than anything else. The people that fall victim to it are usually those downloading anything and everything (such as altcoin wallets that are actually malware or random email attachments) onto machines that hold coins.

The primary defenses on an internet-connected machine: 1) rarely downloading anything, and when you do, only do so from a trusted source and check signatures. 2) Be careful clicking links and surfing in general. If you have coins at risk, you shouldn't be treating your computer as if it were a throwaway.

You should keep most of your coins offline, anyway. And you should also have a throwaway machine (or phone/tablet) for visiting sites that may be insecure, or for downloading torrents, etc.

I don't buy into the Linux vs. Windows argument. If you have bad security practices, you will lose your coins on Linux, too. If you think malware doesn't exist (or cannot exist) for Linux, you are mistaken. There is far less malware because hardly any end users use Linux.
119  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: next bitcoin fork in Nov? on: September 07, 2017, 11:15:10 PM
Actually the rumors about next Fork in Bitcoin system also make us have reason buy Bitcoin.
Because if that fork can be successful, do you think the price of Bitcoin in that time low or high?
For me, depends your opinion about that fork, you can earn big profit or miss an opportunity get rich.
Point is that this hard fork isn't needed with SegWit being activated. It's something the miners managed to force through as part of an agreement.

At this point it isn't even sure whether or not we'll really end up seeing a hard fork get initiated. Important factor is that miners (except Jihan & gang) will likely pull back their support for this hard fork, which is the only right thing.

In the runup to November I expect the fud to reach a boiling point, where the network will get spammed again, paid shills to start derailing every constructive fork thread, and the list goes on ~ nothing new after all.

I expect the same. Now that we are in a calm period without any pressing deadlines, the mempool spam has largely subsided and the fervor over BIP148 and BIP91 has declined to quiet grumblings about "No2x." And the Bitcoin Discussion subforum is mostly populated by low quality mega-threads again, instead of fork-related threads on every other line.

I suspect that this period will also coincide with a price consolidation that pushes into another leg of rallying. The market uncertainty around the November fork should start setting in by late October.... and I think that will be a major top for BTC.
120  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: September 06, 2017, 09:03:18 PM
So if fiat does NOT get converted, and the fiat withdrawal is very limited.. Our fiat is stuck there? I'm guessing people will be reluctant to sell their BTC / similar for fiat if it will be hard getting it off the site.

The value of the fiat will be much lower on btc-e as there is no assurance it will ever get out.

This means you will probably be paying a hefty premium on coins if they allow those to be transferred out.

I wonder if it might be like the US-facing online poker industry after Black Friday. The cashout situation became so bad that customers on networks like Carbon and Cake began to question the solvency of the sites they played on.

Check cashouts took anywhere from a few weeks to a few months to process, and sometimes the checks bounced. As such, a market developed around P2P bank deposits as a way to cash out. People would pay 40-50% premiums to get their money out of the dodgier sites.
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