I'd just like to make it clear that I'm not supporting some weird conspiracy regarding the coronavirus. I don't think that the WHO is in bed with the Chinese, nor do I think that the WHO made up the coronavirus.

When I made my claim before I was talking about how I believe that the WHO was just slow to get the jump on the Coronavirus. I fully understand that they're just an advisory group to countries, but I think that with the amount of funding they receive to be the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION, they should've been a bit more in front of this issue and been able to call China out on their BS. Just an explanation on why this didn't happen would be nice. Because I highly doubt the WHO and everyone running it wanted to just ignore this or did this on purpose -- that'd be career ending and would probably lead to some horrible events happening to the leaders of the WHO.

So yeah, that's my little explanation regarding the matter.

I do understand a large amount of the backlash against the WHO. We send large amounts of money to the WHO and in all honesty they probably should've reacted a bit faster to the Coronavirus outbreak in China and shouldn't have relied on Chinese authorities to ensure that they were being legitimate. You can' trust China when it comes to stuff like this, and I think the WHO was relying heavily on Chinese information which made their response slow.

Why send money to a global health organization that didn't really do much here? I know that they're probably handling many other things, and the Coronavirus wasn't their only medical issue to be handling -- but still.

If Trump was smart he'd start his own health organization that is run by US health officials and is properly funded for future pandemics.

This can't be done without the government requesting a backdoor to access data for all of this information. The government is probably going to try to pitch an idea like this, they're most likely going to say that its done to ensure that during an emergency people are safe. Once this ends though, the government isn't going to give up stuff like this -- they're going to keep the program running and just continue to track people.

That's why we have the privacy issues we have today, all the monitoring, surveillance, etc didn't just come out of nowhere. An emergency happens where people just want action to come, then action comes through legislation, government grows and they don't give back that control after the crisis.

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Hopefully I can work with you again here Hhampuz. Been hoping for a slot to open for awhile as I missed the last one. Always happy to work with ya Hhampuz, great campaign manager.

Stay safe and good luck guys.

Oh you're right in regards to all of that, just a nerve racking time where the typical rational thinking brain of mine isn't really doing that. I'm fine and I don't have a medical condition where this could be lethal -- that's the case for most people. Still not a big fan of leaving and having to go out, and I assume that's similar to most people as well.

Yeah no N95 masks -- just cloth on your face. Many videos on social media (I shared one from the surgeon general) and so on to show how to make one. It'll work fine for most peoples needs and it'll stop / slow the spread of the virus.

I guess so, just not a big fan of having someone else handle goods right now. But I guess you don't have much of a choice when it comes to all of the stuff that I'm getting from the grocery store once a week. God there's been a few cases in my grocery store that forced them to shut down for a few days, so I assume Etsy is probably the least of my concerns.

I see most people just using a scarf or shirt or something like that. Surgeon General put out a video showing people how to make their own mask: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPx1yqvJgf4 (Scarf/T-Shirt, and rubberbands) Seems simple enough. I wouldn't buy anything off Etsy personally, not a fan of having anything shipped to me now + it'll take too long to arrive.

I agree with this being the right call though, best way to limit the spread.

I'm assuming the lack of production is because there never really was a demand for this sort of thing. While this is a horrible thing to happen to the country and the world, as many are going to die. The good thing that is going to come out of this is that the government should invest in having equipment in reserves for this sort of thing. Pretty much me pointing back to the Bill Gates talk on pandemics (https://www.ted.com/talks/bill_gates_the_next_outbreak_we_re_not_ready?language=dz) which was right after the Ebola crisis about how we weren't ready.

Would be great if NY could be providing them to people who can't have them or something like that, though I guess the best thing is to just make your own with a piece of cloth / shirt / etc.

+1 to all of this. Some people are freaking out and saying that this is a bio weapon, but I think that's so much bullshit. If this was a bioweapon by China, and the American intelligence groups had found that out by now -- Trump and the rest of his admin would've made that public. They would've wanted public support behind starting some sort of war with China (even if it's just economical instead of with a military)

Plus the fact that if this was a bioweapon, this would've been a HORRIBLE bioweapon as they killed and infected a large amount of their own people while doing this. Just saying.

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I guess this blog isn't being used anymore? Doesn't seem updated.

Yup, this is it. I've tested it alongside JackG at a certain point in time, and honestly it's just based on your luck.

BitDeer is literally able to come to you and say -- we actually are having technical difficulties right now so you're not going to get paid for x amount of days, though we'll credit you at the end. At first glance this doesn't sound like an issue, though when you actually look at that that's NOT OKAY. Because they're going to credit you at the end of lets just say 6 months or so, what that does to you after difficulty adjustments is that it really gives you about 50-75 percent of the mining value of today.

If you were able to confirm that they were fully legitimate and not lying, then MAYBE it would be okay. But you're not able to confirm this. They can take hours from you whenever they want, pocket the difference to make some money, and then give you shit at the end.

Not worth it. If you make money you're lucky.

Maybe the title is a bit misleading, but NY Gov Cuomo has ordered that everyone in NY when in public (when unable to follow social distancing guidelines) must wear a mask. This is going to be pretty common on public transportation, grocery stores, some work environments, etc.

NY is getting stricter and stricter with their measures, for good reason, as they're the state that has been hit the hardest when it comes to the coronavirus. Let me know what you guys think about this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/nyregion/coronavirus-face-masks-andrew-cuomo.html

Ya have a source on this? I know that Apple was repatriating some money -- maybe in the realm of $50-100b or so due to the tax law changes which they thought were worthwhile to bring money back. Though I don't think they're going to bring ALL on the book operations back to the US. If they do, all that means is that the US government is going to have more tax funds and the lawyers at Apple have decided it makes the most economic sense to do as they need the cash here ASAP.

If not: They don't need the cash here and they foresee another tax change or repatriation period sometime soon.

I thought I was going to read a thread on how the Amish people were the best to run the country or something like that, was ready for a weird nutjob discussion. But Justin Amash, alright.

I know there were some conspiracy theories (unknown how legitimate they are) that Amash was getting money from some Chinese interest groups. But this guy isn't going to get anywhere. He's not a Republican and he's not a Democrat, he's this weird middle without any association. Has no shot and is most likely just trying to keep his rep job cause Republicans are going to mount a LARGE campaign against him come primary season.

Maybe I'm just too stuck in thinking the only way you're able to stay in power is by associating with one of the parties. We'll see when this guy runs for election for rep (doubt he'll actually run for President)

+1 to this.

Just file charges. I wouldn't do anything that could put you in some sort of legal trouble if this person is to file a defamation suit against you. No reason to risk it.

People at the police office will totally take everything you say seriously and forward it over to whoever it needs to get to (Ex: Sex offender list) if warranted.

Messaging on tele soon, going to update this based on how the trade goes.

First things first, I'm not saying that Crypto is going to go to $0 sometime soon. Though I do think the massive swings in volume are going to take away from the legitimacy of thinking that crypto or just Bitcoin can be used by companies, consumers, merchants, etc.

You're right, this is a new experiment. I just think a lot of people in this space think that because the stock market is going down then crypto is going to moon because its ANTI GOVERNMENT AND ANTI TRADITIONAL. Just wanted to show that's not the case, and it's all interconnected in someway.

Do I think the montetary system will change? Yes.
Do I think that people will move further and further towards digital currency in the next couple decades? Yes. But I think this digital currency is most likely going to be government sponsored currencies. Unless Crypto changes a good amount to make it more attractive to people in the West.

I've spoken about this with multiple members of the forum and we've all said that bitcoin is cool for nerds like this, but for most people they don't see the need to use all this crazy stuff that isn't stable and is not really easy to use as an older regular person.

But when you're talking about debt -- I do truly think that debt is going to be an issue for countries as it is now. It is going to spiral out of control, and I'm unsure what the plan is when interest payments are set to exceed items such as the NATIONAL DEFENSE BUDGET FOR THE US. I don't think it's going to make countries default and go under -- because at that point we're most likely in some sort of war / civil war / uprising. But we'll see.

I wouldn't say its that much. Good amount of money going out to small and large businesses if you're smart enough to apply for either the EIDL or the Paycheck Protection Loan, both are fully forgivable and allow people to continue paying payroll to keep employees on.

Unemployment benefits have been beefed up by the US government, giving people another $600 a week on top of whatever your state was giving you, to ensure that the millions of people who have filed for unemployment are able to pay their bills and such, as this is an unprecedented situation where no one is able to find work for the coming months if you got laid off.

While yes, it's expected that there is going to be some beef. But the stimulus checks aren't the only things that regular everyday people are getting here. Many things people can get to keep them afloat.

I mean I hate to be pessimistic, but do you truly think that FIAT governments are going to go poof by the time that these are working? I've heard that China is literally rolling out some testing right now regarding their digital currency (https://www.coindesk.com/chinese-state-owned-bank-offers-test-interface-for-pboc-central-bank-digital-currency)

I'm not like many in the crypto community when I say that I don't think that world governments are going to let this happen so easily and without their intevention. I've always said, if world governments thought crypto was a real threat they'd shut down everything and physically attack miners, coders, etc.

But yes -- if countries are able to go to using digital currency, they're going to be able to TRACK EVERYTHING. Which is a major problem. People don't think it, but fiat currency cash is literally the best way to be off the grid with. Bitcoin really isn't. I love crypto and everything about it, but I think we believe that crypto is completely separate from fiat and traditional financial markets when it truly isn't and we all know that in the back of our heads.

Sidenote: Can we compare the Bank of Englands nice clean website with the federal reserves website? Kinda sad to see that the Federal Reserve (US) has such a horrible site that doesn't show anything clearly.