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2681  Economy / Economics / Re: Energy, the driving force of any country being scarce gives way for inflation on: March 28, 2022, 05:33:07 AM
OP, did you the fertilizer market surge? I believe high food prices, and markets related to agricuture and food production will be the next driving force for inflation in many countries.How should be prepare for it from an investment standpoint? Invest in agri-stocks/food production companies.

I saw a post somewhere that some rich countries already did it, they have bought massive agri farms out of their profits from selling their own crude oil. It was a brilliant idea, now they cannot solely rely on their oil as it will drain sooner or later. So the alternative is needed, in order for them to survive they have bought lands across the country to grow foods that their own lands cannot. I am speaking about Saudi Arabia, look at their 3km disc like farms, it is an innovation and it was lit.

 I was planning from the start to buy farm lands, I wanna grow my own food too, releasing myself from the shackles of this society. The system wants us to follow it like robots, we die, somebody takes our position and I won't be waiting that to happen and do nothing. We need to think an alternative to break the chain, even if inflation hits us hard, knowing we have food in our backyard won't do us any damage. We might be needing the energy for transport, then if things gets harder, we'll just have to go back on using the old ways huh.


That would be the most worth it purchase from anyone's Bitcoin investment in my opinion. A good farm land located beside a neighboring farm land with an owner who is like-minded as you. That would be the perfect location. I also believe that purchasing and owning guns to protect your land, family, and yourself as a requirment to be a sovereign individual. Land, Guns, and Bitcoin. Cool
2682  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis on: March 27, 2022, 12:31:25 PM
New telegram post by the master in Bitcoin Beavers

Oчeнь жиpнaя бычья дивepгeнция нa нeдeльнoм. Пoxoжe идём нa 80к.

Very bold bullish divergence on the weekly. Looks like we're going to 80k.


Shower thought. Is the market current cycle the first time for Bitcoin not to go through a -90% bear cycle? Should I cancel my bids placed at the 200-weekly SMA, and buy the current DIPs? Is the Terra billionaire's move in the Bitcoin market a confirmation for plebs to buy before FOMO? Cool
2683  Economy / Economics / Re: Energy, the driving force of any country being scarce gives way for inflation on: March 27, 2022, 12:20:26 PM
OP, did you the fertilizer market surge? I believe high food prices, and markets related to agricuture and food production will be the next driving force for inflation in many countries.How should be prepare for it from an investment standpoint? Invest in agri-stocks/food production companies.
2684  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: CEX ruins the true value of Bitcoin on: March 27, 2022, 10:13:46 AM
You are wrong because value of bitcoin doesn't stem from how easily you can trade it! But the real value of bitcoin stems from how decentralized and censorship resistant it is as a currency or a payment system. This principle does NOT change for bitcoin no matter how much restrictions are placed in some centralized third party service that works with bitcoin.


Real value != financial value. The same mistake when some people in the forum read "HODL Bitcoin as a hedge", and literally conclude "financial hedge". Because of Bitcoin's underlying nature, it's not just a "financial hedge", it's also a hedge against a group of non-elected people who are trusted by plebs to keep the monetary system in order.
2685  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Russian head of the committee on Energy about selling oil and gas in Bitcoin on: March 27, 2022, 09:53:34 AM
The point of Bitcoin is the country that sanctioned "country A" can't censor any entity that decides to send, receive, or settle payments through Bitcoin.

It is not about censoring at all, it is about what would happen next to the entities that broke the sanction, they too will be sanctioned. It's essentially the fear of punishment that outweighs the benefits of the trade that prevents some entities from having relations with country A! Otherwise if the benefits were more (like Germany and other European countries) or if they didn't even care about them (like China, Iran, ...) they would just ignore the sanctions.

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There are limitations, but there are solutions. Plus "taint" doesn't exist in the blockchain. It doesn't make Bitcoin less censorship-resistant.


Again it is not about censoring but about finding out and then punishing those involved.


OK, if you're debating about "the situation", not about the medium of payment, then it won't matter which medium of exchange is being used whether Gold, Yuan, or Russia's SWIFT-alternative.

My standpoint was, "country A" can't be censored from making payments through Bitcoin by any entity, which I believe makes it a powerful alternative to solve the payment side of things.

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Yuan is an alternative, Bitcoin is another alternative. Any entity is free to choose.


Interestingly enough Russia is now demanding that those Europeans receiving Russian gas have to pay with Ruble from now on Cheesy


The reason is to help regain the value of the Ruble, which crashed > 20% against the Dollar.
2686  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Russian head of the committee on Energy about selling oil and gas in Bitcoin on: March 26, 2022, 12:05:28 PM
a country that wants to avoid sanctions in this way benefit from using Bitcoin.

Countries can not and do not use bitcoin to avoid sanctions.


Debatable because any entity can use Bitcoin to settle the payment side of things.

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It's a pretty simple matter, if country A is sanctioned by country B then country A can not use any means of payment including bitcoin to trade with country B or any country following B. And if country A and C don't give a shit about sanctions they will trade with each other with or without bitcoin.


The point of Bitcoin is the country that sanctioned "country A" can't censor any entity that decides to send, receive, or settle payments through Bitcoin.

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Keep in mind that bitcoin has the most transparent ledger in the world. So for example if country D was worried a little about getting sanctioned because of trading with country A, it would never use bitcoin!


There are limitations, but there are solutions. Plus "taint" doesn't exist in the blockchain. It doesn't make Bitcoin less censorship-resistant.

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Bitcoin is just another way to dump US dollar as reserve currency and for trades. Sanctions only give the incentive to do it faster.

As I said earlier, other means of payment are already being used (a LOT more than bitcoin will be). Even Saudis are talking about dumping US dollar and using Yuan for oil exports!


Yuan is an alternative, Bitcoin is another alternative. Any entity is free to choose.
2687  Economy / Speculation / Re: Terra cofounder Do Kwon is the one who is pumping Bitcoin on: March 26, 2022, 11:28:59 AM
I think that there are those who are trying to appear as Elon Musk or Justin Sun, thus inject this coin with news and a little investment to gain confidence and then print a lot of money to buy more Bitcoin.

I can't understand the benefit of adding a stablecoin based on the concept of linkage, which means that they may be good at first, but soon we will find that they have printed more of the assets they have.

If they create a new model then we may approve them.


Laughable. The Honey Badger don't care, Bitcoin is a Trojan Horse, absorbing financial systems old and new. Plus who are we to tell someone with billions that we disapprove of him of buying and HODLing an open, permissionless cryptocurrency? Will that stop him? We are mere plebs.
2688  Economy / Speculation / Re: Terra cofounder Do Kwon is the one who is pumping Bitcoin on: March 26, 2022, 08:36:38 AM
I have been reading theblockcrypto.com article and there is one thing I don't understand. It says on the one hand that they are buying it on the one hand because they are going to tokenize Bitcoin into Luna, their native token and on the other hand they are going to serve as a reserve for their UST stablecoin.

I think in part this is an acknowledgement that their stablecoin and token are crap and that Bitcoin is better.

I suppose the reserve is to cushion the depreciation suffered by fiat currencies and therefore stablecoins, but it is not clear to me what role the volatility of the Bitocin can play in a currency that is supposed to be "stable".


It's a very smart investment in my opinion, and it's a very big complement that they chose Bitcoin. It proves that their shitcoins will need Bitcoin for their protocols to continue to exist, and survive the Darwinian process. I believe it will be the same with legacy banks, governments, and their central banks. They will be next because they might have no choice, they need a hedge.
2689  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: CEX ruins the true value of Bitcoin on: March 26, 2022, 08:15:12 AM
What is interesting, however, is that despite people supporting Bitcoin they are also supporting centralized exchanges and custodial wallets and all things that are essentially against the Bitcoin standard. So perhaps we could ask whether the people really prefer complete independence. For many years, DExes are left behind by CExes in terms of volume. Moreover, despite compulsory KYC hassles and failing a number of times in the process, centralized exchanges are not losing popularity. Is it only because DExes don't support fiat? Or is it simply because CExes are generally better? Or perhaps people aren't really interested get out of fiat altogether?


Because it isn't as necessary for the users to use just a DEX, like BISQ, but I believe if we lose more exchanges to the governments' demanding requirements, DEX trading will become the first choice for many users.

Plus don't believe those trolls who spreads misinformation that DEX, or their developers are "random individuals" hiding away. Decentralized Exchanges are simply solutions to a problem.
2690  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Russian head of the committee on Energy about selling oil and gas in Bitcoin on: March 26, 2022, 06:38:35 AM
IF it ends up as a "underground-only" cryptocurrency, "according to" a cabal of entities who make the "rules", because a scantioned nation-state used it?

Most of the world population goes by those rules. They usually end up as laws.


Wouldn't censorship-resistance be more valuable in a tyrannical world like that?

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Will it be "our" loss if it proves the technology works as designed? Plus a nation-state truly using it will not make Bitcoin "underground-only", it could start real adoption.


There are a lot of wonderful experiments that didn't get world wide acceptance/traction for whatever odd reasons. And I will not talk (only) about (some) altcoins, I would (also) talk about better ways to store data (much better than DVD), for example. The world goes on and most will not miss that, but for some.. it's a loss.


But is Bitcoin just another "wonderful experiment"? It might be for you, but it's ground-breaking technology for me. A technology that the OG cypherpunks took years to solve, but they couldn't. The impact of the invention of Bitcoin will be comparable to the invention of the printing press.

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You do have a good point about proving it works as designed, although imho that was already proven.
Can Russia trigger real adoption? I doubt it. Just look how the "adoption" went in China. They toyed Bitcoin for a while, then kicked it out and started their centralized coin. It has proven to us the Bitcoin resilience, but for the average Chen it's a loss.

And the western banking sector (and it friends) just waits the perfect opportunity/reason to ban their main competitor. And then.. who will adopt Bitcoin?


We might have different definitions of  "real adoption".

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Are you saying the community should protest, and tell Russia not to use Bitcoin?

It's a free world (actually network), that's the beauty of it. And protesting won't help; I don't expect Russian government care at all.
But please allow me still be concerned, OK?


That's the point, there's no need to be concerned about the price, or the market as long as Bitcoin can maintain its ethos/social contact, and therefore its main value proposition.

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But what would be the point of Bitcoin? What would then be its main value-proposition?

I find Bitcoin now at a thin balance between the experimental status and worldwide adoption. I fear that the critical mass (user base) is not yet achieved and although we both have similar goal for Bitcoin, I'd prefer to "play safe" a little more.

What we have now with Bitcoin is a mix of hope and speculation. Bitcoin's actual value will come after the critical mass is reached and we can go on with or without the current financial sector.


What's your definition of "user base"? We might have different opinions.

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It will for me, it might for Putin and other sanctioned countries, and for the Heroine dealers in the dark markets.

I don't think that you really want that. It would be an immense setback.


What I want? It's not what I want, or what you want. The Core developers made design decisions for Bitcoin to be permissionless, decentralized, and censorship-resistant that can also survive against an adversarial environment.
2691  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: March 25, 2022, 11:13:07 AM
Buy dip and hold seems like a very simple strategy, but it offers maximum benefits.  Sometimes simple things succeed but people do the opposite and insist on complexity.  Unfortunately, Bitcoin is already in the $43k region and it looks like it continues to surge after some exciting news regarding Russia's acceptance of GAS payments in bitcoin.  The market will respond to the next level of that need.

I'm not sure it's a bullrun and much to look forward to in Bitcoin Miami April 6-8. No signs of verifying the next level yet but $48k looks great to end March for trend building


I believe there will be many investors/traders who definitely will find it debatable if it offers maximum benefits to your wallet, but I am very sure that simply Buy the DIP, and HODL will offer maximum benefits to your health, and sanity while increasing some benefits to your wallet. There will be less stress, we are just mere plebs.
2692  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Russian head of the committee on Energy about selling oil and gas in Bitcoin on: March 25, 2022, 10:45:48 AM
It will be their loss in my opinion, and Bitcoin will crawl into the systems that the legacy "legal entities" will not serve, and make those markets more efficient. The price might crash, but I'm confident it will surge again.

If Bitcoin ends up as underground-only currency, it will be everybody's loss.


IF it ends up as a "underground-only" cryptocurrency, "according to" a cabal of entities who make the "rules", because a scantioned nation-state used it? Will it be "our" loss if it proves the technology works as designed? Plus a nation-state truly using it will not make Bitcoin "underground-only", it could start real adoption.

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Sorry, I find your view in this a bit limited (or maybe I just don't understand it), and repeating that bitcoin is permissionless medium of exchange won't change that.


I respect your opinion.

Are you saying the community should protest, and tell Russia not to use Bitcoin? But what would be the point of Bitcoin? What would then be its main value-proposition?

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For example, an asset only in the underground markets - no matter the price recovers or not - won't really be seen as a store of value.


It will for me, it might for Putin and other sanctioned countries, and for the Heroine dealers in the dark markets.
2693  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Russian head of the committee on Energy about selling oil and gas in Bitcoin on: March 25, 2022, 08:19:19 AM
No ser, it is truly cheered by those who care about Bitcoin as a permissionless, censorship-resistant protocol with an underlying nature that can weaken political strongholds. Those who care only about the price are afraid that that would happen, because "Russia Bad will Bitcoin Bad Price Crash".

For Russia and China, Bitcoin is only a toy they can use and throw away. If Russia will indeed sell gas for Bitcoin to whatever sanctioned countries, we may get back to "bitcoin is illegal money" and businesses/individuals getting restricted in using it.


Bitcoin is a permissionless, censorship-resistant cryptocurrency, that can be used as a Medium of Exchange, and as form of self-sovereign Store of Value. If they take Bitcoin as a ground-breaking technology, OK. If they take it as a mere "toy" they can use and throw away, OK but will be laughable, their choice.

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I do understand your point, this kind of use would show how powerful Bitcoin actually is. But if then Bitcoin will no longer be accepted in the western world... it will be pretty bad, and not only for the price.

For "underground" use there are the privacy coins. But I would not be happy with Bitcoin used again only by (some of) us. I want to see Bitcoin accepted literally everywhere, by every merchant/business. The more legit the better.


It will be their loss in my opinion, and Bitcoin will crawl into the systems that the legacy "legal entities" will not serve, and make those markets more efficient. The price might crash, but I'm confident it will surge again.
2694  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Impact of bitcoin if Satoshi Identity is revealed on: March 25, 2022, 06:59:17 AM
One of the reason for high trust on bitcoin is that the bitcoin owner Satoshi identity is hidden.


It's because the Bitcoin network has continued doing its job without down-time, and maintaining its ethos/social contract with the community.

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If all of sudden Satoshi come in the public and his identity is revealed, do you think it will have a bad impact on the bitcoin price and it can dump?  Or do you think that bitcoin price will pump on this revelation? Mind you that i am talking about the real satoshi, not the fake ones claiming themselves to be satoshi.


I believe no one would care who Satoshi is. The community might care out of curiousity, but not to decide whether Bitcoin is "good or bad" depending on who Satoshi is. That would be laughable, and stupid. Would you dump Bitcoin if it's proven that Satoshi is Hal Finney or Adam Back?
2695  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Russian head of the committee on Energy about selling oil and gas in Bitcoin on: March 25, 2022, 06:36:19 AM

This news is cheered by those who care only about the price (which has indeed started going up), but I fear it will give even more ammo to Bitcoin's opponents.

And BTW, the whole news as I've read it, tells that they consider asking Bitcoin from the friendly countries and rubles or gold from the others.
However, changing the means of payment currency is not allowed by most of the existing long term contracts, so this looks to me like pushing the countries take the (not so easy) decision of finding better providers than Russia.


No ser, it is truly cheered by those who care about Bitcoin as a permissionless, censorship-resistant protocol with an underlying nature that can weaken political strongholds. Those who care only about the price are afraid that that would happen, because "Russia Bad will Bitcoin Bad Price Crash".
2696  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Privacy: How to Store My KYC Coins After Whirlpool Coinjoin? on: March 24, 2022, 11:37:23 AM
OP, if you want to "just HODL", just leave the coins alone and send them to your cold storage, IF you currently don't have any reason to require privacy.

Shower thought, if OP requires minimal privacy, can he use BlueWallet, create two Lightning wallets, load one of the wallets with Bitcoin, open invoice in the second wallet, loaded wallet opens direct channel to second wallet, send, then exchange Bitcoin from Lightning wallet to onchain wallet through zigzag.io?
2697  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Around 300 to 400 students will be attending my Bitcoin webinar next month on: March 24, 2022, 10:13:38 AM

OP, good luck! Emphasize Bitcoin's ethos and social contract first, and then explain how that's achieved through the usage of Proof of Work. Satoshi truly discovered something ground-breaking. Talk about the market after 30 minutes, and explain Bitcoin's first mover advantage, network effects, and its underlying ability to absorb financial markets by making them more efficient. The dark markets are good examples in my opinion.

Sure I’ll take note of these. I still have at least a month to prepare myself, gathering all of the information to be put to my slides. I already have my old slides from last year and can still use them, but I may have to update some of them though with the inclusion of NFTs, metaverse, etc. But the main focus is Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general for their real use cases and fundamentals as well as giving them advice in risk management.


Encourage their imagination by talking about "blockchain". Tempt their greed by talking about "Bitcoin six digits". BUT I believe we must educate the newbies about the basic, ELI5 technical side of Bitcoin for them to have a solid foundation in understanding cryptocurrencies. It goes back to the white paper, and what made everything stick together, POW.
2698  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Tips and tricks for day trading on: March 24, 2022, 08:46:56 AM
The best tip for someone like you is to stay away from day trading, day trading is for experts only


But someone can not just become expert in one day, if you are discouraging people not to trade, then no one will be an expert.

now you may engage on it if you want but I guarantee you that you will lose your money


New traders do lose, then best to advice them to use a very small amount which they can willingly offer to lose, starting to trade with $50 is not bad while trading with $10 in each trade

so I recommend that you begin by just holding your coins and then after some time you can lower the time frame in which you make your trades.
Tradimg can start anytime, it depends on the approach used.


That's a waste of time, and your money. If OP wants to treat trading like gambling when he's bored, then OK. Deposit 50 and lose all of it like he played dice. But if OP wants to make some extra profit, best way for us plebs is to save part of our monthly salary and HODL them in Bitcoin.

My advice will always be, "Spend less than your monthly salary, budget your money, pay your expenses, then HODL the rest in Bitcoin".
2699  Economy / Economics / Re: Thailand ban using crypto for payments on: March 24, 2022, 08:30:02 AM
I believe Thailand will launch their own CBDC, the Thai government obviously doesn't want their citizens to have absolute freedom to transact.

This is exactly what happened with the Nigerians government, they did the same thing by placing ban on crypto just to reveal the launch of their E-Naira CBDC, i think you're right, government are contending with cryptocurrency but they lack the understanding that CBDC is totally different from cryptocurrency.


They truly understand. Cool

I believe Thailand will launch their own CBDC, the Thai government obviously doesn't want their citizens to have absolute freedom to transact. But at the same time I believe the Thai government wants to HODL Bitcoin as part of their FOREX/commodity reserves? Why are the allowing Bitcoin as an investment?

Speaking of CBDC, I did posted earlier about the Philippines doing a pilot implementation run on it here.

I just don’t know if CBDC’s poses a threat to the adoption of cryptocurrencies as mode of payment or so. Every country has their own point of view regarding Bitcoin. As you said about Thailand not allowing crypto as mode of payment but allowing as investment, maybe they need to study more deeply about it as they don’t want to be left behind in the trend like the anti-Bitcoin countries right now.


CBDC in its final form will pose a threat to each citizen's right to transact. Everything we have feared as Bitcoiners will be happening in CBDC. Your freedom that you enjoy with paper money right now? WILL BE GONE. They will monitor you, censor you, cage you. It's very important that Bitcoin should be HODLed by as many people as possible.
2700  Economy / Economics / Re: Thailand ban using crypto for payments on: March 23, 2022, 11:25:29 AM
I believe Thailand will launch their own CBDC, the Thai government obviously doesn't want their citizens to have absolute freedom to transact. But at the same time I believe the Thai government wants to HODL Bitcoin as part of their FOREX/commodity reserves? Why are the allowing Bitcoin as an investment?
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