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1561  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: trading or working in signature campaigns? on: December 11, 2017, 06:55:20 PM
What do you think should be done?
These days bitcoins are not given directly in campaign but tokens are given and very less campaign give bitcoins purely.
What would you do?campaign or trading?
That is not entierly true, many campaigns give payment as bitcoin, and even if they don't they would be paying you in tokens wich can be exchanged into ethereum, which not a bad thing, since etheruem is getting more and more popular and we may see it rise in the next year, and you could always exhcnage that into bitcoin, all in all working in signiture campaign is always better than trading, because with trading your profit is limited to how the market flows and you could be losing so it is risky, camapaigns give you fixed payment that you can save and earn profit from it in your wallet.
1562  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Want to invest £10,000 on: December 11, 2017, 06:07:26 PM
I have around 10k i want to invest into cryto i like the look of EHT and SALT both look like great projects but their are so many coins out right now
i am not sure which to get i am wanting longterm and shortterm investments what do you guys think ?
If you ask anyone who have been on the cryptocurrency world for quite some time now, he will tell you that all you need to do with your money is to invest it into a bitcoin, bitcoin has been and will for ever be the king of the cryptocurrencies the most profitable thing that has ever existed and will ever exist on earth, bitcoin was able to go from being at a pprice of 1000$ to a price that exeades the 15000$ in just a year, that is more than 1500% profit, wich makes it profitable both on the long term and the short term as equal, if you are thinking of putting your money on ethereum or any other altcoin you would be disapointed from thier growth and you wouldn't get as much profit as you would using bitcoin.
1563  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: 2018 Crypto predictions on: December 11, 2017, 07:16:47 AM
Given the year that 2017 has been, what are your predictions for 2018 for cryptos? will Bitcoin continue to rise? I think governments will be involved more in cryptos in 2018, more regulation maybe?
I couldn't agree more, since bitcoin have seen a massive increase in price and this lead to people starting to take part in it, like investing in it and earning massive amounts of money from it, there is no more ignoring it and say it is just a bubble, the amount of money that has been pumped into the cryptocurrency market in general, is going to lead to more and more people and investors joining it, my prediction for the bitcoin next year is that it will keep on going high and that is a known fact, but it's rise is accompanied with cryptocurrenvies gaining more popularity and in particular Ethereum, which have proved how viable it is and this is reflected from the massive amount of projects that are starting up, selling tokens that are ethereum based to promote and to get start ups on their ideas and projects.
1564  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoins in 2018? on: December 11, 2017, 06:24:28 AM
What do u think bitcoin will countinue this insane grow in 2018, its worth to hold my altcoins?
I am very disappointed, i started crypto 4 month ago, and my portfolio now worth the 1/3 value in bitcoin as when i started this..
2018 will be the year of altcoins, or bitcoin get an absolute dominance?

Well bitcoin has always been on the rise and next year will be no different, the only thing that matters is how large the profit is going to be, this year we had bitcoin breaking all records with a profit exading 1500% all year long and it is still not yet done, we really don't know  that will have the same situation next year, but the thing I am sure of is no matter what bitcoin will always haveore profit in it than altcoins, so if you have a choice between bitcoin and altcoins always go for bitcoin, and you said it yourself you did not have that much profit from them.
1565  Economy / Economics / Re: What coin do you believe will be next to bitcoin? on: December 09, 2017, 05:56:37 PM
I strongly believe that the alternative solution for bitcoin and the only coin that have enough potential to rise is ethereum due to it's very special smart contracts , unique usiage and it's been here for as long as bitcoin . It also has better blocks , lower fees and trusted by the community members . It's also essential fir creating new tokens thus it has an utility which makes it indispensable.
I agree, for quite some time ethereum has been on the spotlight of many investors and cryptocurrency users, so it is most likely to follow bitcoin, most people know that there are a tone of altcoins in the market and most of them have no sort of new ideas, they are just deprate ways to become a copy of bitcoin and achieve the same level of success and popularty, but ethereum is different it tries to be differnt in its own way, it may not reach crazy numbers like the bitcoin did and still doing, but it will definetly be up there.
1566  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Bitcoin Volatility A Bad Thing? on: December 09, 2017, 02:59:35 PM
Steam dropped bitcoin support citing "high volatility" as a motive.

When amazon stock jumped from $18 to $1,200 over a period of years, was this high volatility a bad thing?

If bitcoin's value increases from $6,000 to $16,000 over a period of months, and HODL'ers benefit, this high volatility is bad?

Where does the idea of high volatility being an unnecessary evil come from?

Are there good arguments or evidence which support the concept of high volatility being a negative circumstance?

In a sense, volatility simply means the price of something moves a lot, its not that bad if the vast majority of motion is in an upward direction?

 Huh Huh Huh
Atually no, i think that if bitcoin was not this volitale it wouldn't be so popular, when bitcoin first launched a few pople knew about it and that is due to the fact that it did not have a high price like today, and since it is started rising more poeople got intressted in it and more invesstments were acomplished and this lead to the price rising even more and the market becoming more and more volitiale, just look at what happend this year people were using bitcoin gained a 1000% profit just by saving it, no investment no tricky stuff just by putting it in a wallet and letting it sit there, anyone who does not know about bitcoin hears about this for sure he is going to invest in it, so i am pretty sure that more will come as bitcoin keeps on rising.
1567  Economy / Economics / Re: TIME FRAME TO REACH $25,000 on: December 09, 2017, 11:16:37 AM
Coupled with the rate at which the price of bitcoin has been increasing lately. I'd like to know how long it would take bitcoin to reach $25k since it took it just a year to rise from $1k to $10k(which was pretty cool and fast) but I doubt if it can rise as fast as that again
Yeah i mean everything is possible after we saw how much progress bitcoin, has made this year, i mean there is no limit to prdections on when the bitcoin will be reaching 25k, not only bitcoin was able to reach 10k in a year giving its users 1000%, but in just a week bitcoin went from being 10k to reaching more than 15k, that exeded anyone's expectation, so trying to predict when the price is going to reach 25k is like fliping a coin, but the sure thing is that we are going to see the bitcoin rise not only in terms of price but alos in terms of users and investment and potentialy use it as a global payment method.
1568  Economy / Services / Re: X8CURRENCY Signature and Avatar Campaign on: December 07, 2017, 08:34:21 PM
I would like to apply for the campaign
Btctalk name: Shenzou
Rank: Sr Member
Current post count: 581
BTC Address: 1MtcGaHJ8nMAgG9C4evHeZf81fdC6gbhHF
Wear appropriate signature: yes
hope i get accepted
1569  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's rise and rise on: December 06, 2017, 10:05:33 AM
Now the price of bitcoin is reached $11000 its a tremendous growth in the coinmarket. In future the price will increase more and more. When the price of bitcoin is low you can buy it and hold it for some days.once the price is high we can sell and earn the profit.
When do you find the time to trade bitcoins now? Many people are so scared of selling. The fees and the transaction time takes so long, and after that, Bitcoin has already risen by a few 100 dollars. Trading won't commence until Bitcoin stabilises, and that won't be for a long time.
I agree bitcoin trading right now is in a pretty bad state, there is a massive debate concerning it considering how the price has been constantly changing, sided with high fees and slower transaction made it hard to make an exchange, where timing in trading is the most important thing, where every second matters, and besides the price of the bitcoin is constantly on the rise so selling it is one time only, because probably you won't be able to rebut it again and even if you get the chance to rebuy it the price will change before the transaction is completed.
1570  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Getting into bitcoin with only $25 on: December 04, 2017, 09:40:41 PM
I scraped together the little money I have and dove into bitcoin. My ambition is to make money trading altcoins and keep a bitcoin reserve. Can I even make it anywhere starting with such a small amount of money?
Well after seeing what have happaned all year long and how much profit poeple were able to make off the back of the bitcoin, every little dime that you put into it is worth it, this year bitcoin has risen from 1k to 10k giving the people who were able and paitent enough to hold it all year long a profit that exedes 1000%, that is more than investment or trading did or will ever get you in a life time, saving bitcoin now is the new way to invest your money, there is no other safer and more profitable way than just passivily earning money.
1571  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Banks and Bitcoin on: December 04, 2017, 08:24:05 PM
I personally think that in the war of BTC vs Bank, BTC is always ahead far away from bank.So the bank are already taking action and making thousands of plans to eradicate not just bitcoins but the all of the crypto currencies but all the plan have been failed.

Banks do what the goverments approve of, recently with the huge rise up of the bitcoin's price there has been a lot of talk about the state of bitcoin, and wethere it should be leagalized or not, govermments and banks have no controll not so ever niether on the user or the bitcoin network, so ome of them went with the saying if you can't beat them join them and they accepted bitcoin and use it, others are baning it and punishing pople who are found using it, there is no present way for banks and goverments to go against bitcoin, so there is no fear for it, we should be happy because soon most of the world will start accepting it and using it.
1572  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin or Ethereum: Which is the Future Cryptocurrency on: December 04, 2017, 08:11:15 PM
I used to assume before now that bitcoin is the all and all of crypto, maybe because discovered bitcoin before other cryptos like ethereum. But over time, that assumption is at the verge of being reversed. This is because i now discovered that apart from being a means of exchange, ethereum also has the power of smart contract. Which do you think is better and has great future?
In terms of investment bitcoin is and will forever be the most profitable of all cryptocurrency, it being the first one be founded i gained popularity over time and with it the cryptocurrency built a name around it, and for most users there is only bitcoin others are just a hopeless way to copy it, they are founded with no new ideas and has nothing to prove, but recently poeple have taken notice of how the ethereum had new ideas to bring and how people are using it and how practical it is, so in the future i think that poeple will not use bitcoin for thier every day lives needs and for being things regulary, it will be ethereum.
1573  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Oh my God bitcoin reached 11000 on: December 04, 2017, 06:43:30 PM
Yeah bitcoin has becomd very successfulcwith a price of 11000+ USD now i think which is going to go even further in time. I think it is good for the people who invested in bitcoins as they will get alot of profit through it. There is also a big chance that the price of bitcoin may fall which will lead to loss of many people. But i think even if it's price crashes it will recover and cross more than it was before.
Bitcoin's price increase is always good for not only the people who have invested in bitcoin and got profit but it is a good thing for all the cryptocurrency world, you see bitcoin has been gaining popularity with its massive crazy price and this has led to many people jumpin,,g to invest in the cryptocurrency market and in pursuite of bitcoin people will find themlselves looking for ways to get it and one of them is exhchanging altcoins to bitcoin because they are easier to mine and cheaper to buy and safer to trade, so we all should be happy and thankfull for the success of bitcoin becuase if its popular all cryptocurrency will be popular as well.
1574  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 150$ to trade on: December 04, 2017, 04:44:02 PM
Hello everyone!

I'm new here but I hope to find some help of you. I have 150$ on bitcoins and I want to try trading some altcoins for short term.

First question is wich exchanges are better for this? I was thinking to split this 150$ on Livecoin, HitBtc, Cryptopia and Yobit. The reason is because the have a lot of markets. What do you think, is a good idea?

Second question, wich is better in your opinion? Arbitrage or buy low sell high?

This questions for now. If i will have more, I will put it here.

PS: I want to make a challenge, make 1000$ from 150$. Cheesy

Thank you!



Trading altcoins can be a profitable way to invest your money, and splitting your cap on multiple coins is a fantastic idea, however with the cap you have it is quite hard to make a good profit splitting it into three, in your case I would suggest holding your money as it is on bitcoin and waiting a bit longer so you can get as much as you can from it before diving into altcoins, don't get me wrong your strategy is good in theory but it lakes cap, and you will better of with bitcoin, people were able to make 1000% just from holding it this year, so be patient.
1575  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Start with Bitcoin or Ethereum on: December 03, 2017, 09:27:15 PM
I want to start  trading , should  i buy Bitcoin or Etheureum first ?
If you want to start trading i would suggest that you start with bitcoin, trading altcoins can be a bit complicated because of how their prices are always changing so it may give you a hard time espesialy if you are a starter, bitcoin on the other hand is much easier to trade, because of how the price of bitcoin rarely goes down, makes the time to buy and sell noticebale because of how many people would be talking about and so you won't miss it, but the only disadvantage is you have to be paitent, because if you sell it will take a long time before the price goes down and be able to buy again.
1576  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin business success on: December 03, 2017, 09:17:01 PM
The whole cryptocurrency market is generating huge profits for the investors - both for traders, holders and bitcoin&altcoin based businesses.
You can say it is a still a niche, but it is also the fastest growing niche out there, from zero to ultra-high profits in short time.
No other conventional business can generate such profits -  it's something that acts as a magnet for crypto businessmen.
If you are asking about specific number certain crypto business is generating - I am afraid that no one will give you accurate data. Sadly.

I agree, the amount of moeny that has been recently pumped into the crypto currency market exedes any investments there is, i mean ICO alone are a best exemple for what the market has reached, tokens have been an easy and an effective way for developers and project owners to get a kick starter to their ideas, and i am sure that in the future this will become more and more of an intressting market, as for bitcoin the only successfull bussniess that i can think off are few, people were and still unsure about implementing it in their work because of how goverments still haven't fully leagalized it, but we are seeing some investment from multiple big companies and i am sure more will follow in the future.
1577  Economy / Economics / Re: One Bitcoin, $10,000. Ten Thousand Dollars. on: December 03, 2017, 04:27:48 PM
Wow brothers and sisters, 2017 and Bitcoin reached the 10,000 USD mark.

Congratulations to all Bitcoin enthusiasts all around the world, it really has hit mainstream now, has it Smiley

Oh our Bitcoin, the world knows you now!

So you're happy with this value. I suggest you don't put your hopes up better stay down. There's many resistance waiting for bitcoin. Maybe most of us forgot about the fact that its price is unstable it can decrease also. I am not against the bitcoin just telling you always aware about this fact. Also Such fast movements of price will not be stable in long run.


Because the price is really unstable, the price went down after it reached $10K but we shouldn't be worried about this. It's normal for the price to go up and down, so the price dip that occurred was not so alarming. If you feel satisfied with that kind of value, then I advice for you to sell quickly. The price changes so fast and it's going to be hard to tell when the price would that amount again.
The price drop that bitcoin has witnessed is nothing compared to its price and the amount of of growth that it had, so many poeple thought that 10k was an impossible and a crazy number to reach and a 1000% profit in a year is somthing that exisits only in the fantasy of investors, bitcoin right now is the most exspensive thing and the most profitable investment there is, i am pretty sure that in the future we will look back to this day and say we made it, and i am sure that some time 10k will be nothing in the eyes of the bitcoin users.
1578  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will you sell your Bitcoin at $100,000 or what? on: December 03, 2017, 12:48:59 PM
I don't have much of bitcoin to sell it below $100,000 - and will probably do this one year after.
Still have some doubts.. Maybe $200,000 will be a better point?
Please give an advice, your opinion is important!!

PS. It's not a joke. Please be realistic while estimating..
Gonna bring up this topic close to X-Mas 2018.
It really depands on you, it is tied to how you are earning your bitcoin, so if you are constantly earning bitcoin and one the price reaches that point and you want to sell do it, but if you just bought bitcoin at some point and you are saving it as an investment than no, because selling bitcoin is one time thing only you can not rebuy your coins again because of how the price is constantly going up, so when selling it you most likely won't get a chance to buy at a low price, this has been an issue for a lot of people since the bitcoin price started reaching high numbers, they say they will sell at a certain point but they don't because they are greedy and there is always more  and the price is going to get higher.
1579  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: will you still buy at 10k on: December 03, 2017, 12:32:39 PM
bought bitcoin in 2015 didnt believe in it. missed the train. bought again around 2-3k but diversified it to altcoins.
will you still buy in this current price? or do you believe a correction is near?
It does not matter if you buy now or wait after the correction, because lets face it no matter how much the price of bitcoin will go down you are always garentead to get profit because it always comes back up again, for me this a good thing and a bad thing as well, because buying bitcoin means that i am palanning to sell it at some point, but unlik the other altcoins, buying and selling bitcoin is not easy, it is a one time only thing once you sell your coins you are likely less to be able to rebuy them again because the price practicly never goes down, it is good if you plan on not to sell bitcoin for years but it makes bitcoin trading nearly impossible.
1580  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why invest in bitcoin on: December 03, 2017, 11:36:15 AM
why invest in bitcoin when u can invest in real stocks market?


Is it good to invest in bitcoin because the price of it are increasing. They all said that investing is an easy way to earn a lot of money so I'm encourage everyone to invest on it so that you can earn a lot of money like the people who are investing bitcoin. Bitcoin investing is safe just like what they said is it safe because is it secure even you are investing for a long time.
Not only bitcoin is a good investment because it has a limited supply so people are rushing in to get it so they could get some profit from it, but bitcoin is a new idea, since it has been released bitcoin proved that a system that is based and controlled by the poeple, a system that does not fall to the hand of any goverment or bank actaully exists, such idea had a massive success and it is still and will be successfull and many people support it and many more will in the future and being apart of it is a previllage, and that is why is put my money and my time in it.
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