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of course "risk free" is to see in limited way. External risks are always possible. But these risks are as well possible with risky systems. I have programmed 2 systems... one I call it risk free with profit after 100 days. the other one is risky because we have the risk to see the ROI only after 100 years or never. of course the aside risks are bigger with the second one because the plan lasts over 100 days. But aside risks are as well possible with sign campaigns... But neither system is "risk free" When you claim the first system is risk free you are being dishonest. The first time it was possible you simply didn't know any better, but by this point it's clear that you do know what risk free means, but you still choose to describe your system as risk free. That's dishonest. The system is 100% risk free... Of course the life is not risk free... I talk about my system N°1 for the system N°2 i say it is risky because the ROI can last... what is dishonnest in my saying?
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November 08, 2015, 02:03:11 PM |
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To be honest the tried and true method of earning bitcoin has long been through signature campaigns. These are the easiest, most consistent and simplest way to earn yourself some bitcoin or to just get started in the community in general.
Another simple method would be to complete odd-jobs and small tasks for other bitcoin users throughout the community. If all else fails, just invest a small amount of your salary into bitcoin via an exchange or trusted exchanger here on bitcointalk.
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November 08, 2015, 02:24:28 PM |
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To be honest the tried and true method of earning bitcoin has long been through signature campaigns. These are the easiest, most consistent and simplest way to earn yourself some bitcoin or to just get started in the community in general.
Another simple method would be to complete odd-jobs and small tasks for other bitcoin users throughout the community. If all else fails, just invest a small amount of your salary into bitcoin via an exchange or trusted exchanger here on bitcointalk.
i agree, i myself have just joined a signature campaign and look forward to bitcoin that comes through. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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November 09, 2015, 08:43:23 AM |
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of course "risk free" is to see in limited way. External risks are always possible. But these risks are as well possible with risky systems. I have programmed 2 systems... one I call it risk free with profit after 100 days. the other one is risky because we have the risk to see the ROI only after 100 years or never. of course the aside risks are bigger with the second one because the plan lasts over 100 days. But aside risks are as well possible with sign campaigns... But neither system is "risk free" When you claim the first system is risk free you are being dishonest. The first time it was possible you simply didn't know any better, but by this point it's clear that you do know what risk free means, but you still choose to describe your system as risk free. That's dishonest. The system is 100% risk free... Of course the life is not risk free... I talk about my system N°1 for the system N°2 i say it is risky because the ROI can last... what is dishonnest in my saying? We're not talking about life, we're talking about the system you promote - a system which is not 100% risk free, due to the risk that you default. By not acknowledging the risk you represent, you are pretending you are 100% trustworthy. Clearly you are not (you'll recall that the first time I raised this with you I used the example of US government bonds - and how even they can not be considered risk free due to the risk that the US government defaults). If that were the case people would be able to claim that ponzis were 100% safe - they continued paying out right up to the point when the promoter decided not to pay out any more.
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November 09, 2015, 08:48:14 AM |
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yes i earn 0.003 BTC from Sign-Up BONUS (Affiliate). I tried to play and get a 0.01 BTC and then I tried to make a withdrawal ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) you can make this much with rotator script send me PM and will give you one for free i can promise i will do this today but for tomorrow i will
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November 09, 2015, 09:50:13 AM |
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of course "risk free" is to see in limited way. External risks are always possible. But these risks are as well possible with risky systems. I have programmed 2 systems... one I call it risk free with profit after 100 days. the other one is risky because we have the risk to see the ROI only after 100 years or never. of course the aside risks are bigger with the second one because the plan lasts over 100 days. But aside risks are as well possible with sign campaigns... But neither system is "risk free" When you claim the first system is risk free you are being dishonest. The first time it was possible you simply didn't know any better, but by this point it's clear that you do know what risk free means, but you still choose to describe your system as risk free. That's dishonest. The system is 100% risk free... Of course the life is not risk free... I talk about my system N°1 for the system N°2 i say it is risky because the ROI can last... what is dishonnest in my saying? We're not talking about life, we're talking about the system you promote - a system which is not 100% risk free, due to the risk that you default. By not acknowledging the risk you represent, you are pretending you are 100% trustworthy. Clearly you are not (you'll recall that the first time I raised this with you I used the example of US government bonds - and how even they can not be considered risk free due to the risk that the US government defaults). If that were the case people would be able to claim that ponzis were 100% safe - they continued paying out right up to the point when the promoter decided not to pay out any more. it's an endless talk. We do not talk about the same thing. I talk about the system and you talk about the system owner... Of course nothing is risk free... signature campaign are then in same way not risk free you publish and it is not sure that you will be paid. I have paid my hosting for 2 years and it is a risk that the host fall down. I talk about my system. My system is "risk free". Why do you argument with a ponzi if my site is not a ponzi? If you are not able to argument about my system then you are out of topic. A ponzi is a risky system and i do not contest it. if you find the single risk in my system I will send back all investment and profit and close my site. Unfortubnately for you you will not find because it is impossible to find a risk with a "risk free" system. Ok...I agree you take the risk that I'm a scammer. But this has nothing to see with my system. If I want scam I have no need to run a scam site. I sell ad-space and close my sites and disappear... Why should I start to scam after 20 years webmastering? You make me laugh like many other ones before you. See mellowads... it is down and all the advisers risk to loose all the invested sach and all publishers risk never see their publisher cash. And we can all admit that the system is "risk free"... the risk is aside...it's a perfect exemple. With my system it is exactly the same... The risk is aside... And if something bad would happen... the "pain" would be bigger for me that for the investors... If you are not able to understand what I mean about "risk free" then I can not help you more... I hope my investors have understood...what means "risk free"
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November 09, 2015, 09:51:24 AM |
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yes i earn 0.003 BTC from Sign-Up BONUS (Affiliate). I tried to play and get a 0.01 BTC and then I tried to make a withdrawal ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) you can make this much with rotator script send me PM and will give you one for free i can promise i will do this today but for tomorrow i will If you don't mind, I would like to know what are you talking about??? Are you saying that one can earn BTC0.01 a day with rotator script??? If yes, please PM me and send me one for me to see how it's possible... Also, if possible, please send it with the steps mentioned as to what is to be done to earn those amounts... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 09, 2015, 10:01:54 AM |
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yes i earn 0.003 BTC from Sign-Up BONUS (Affiliate). I tried to play and get a 0.01 BTC and then I tried to make a withdrawal ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) you can make this much with rotator script send me PM and will give you one for free i can promise i will do this today but for tomorrow i will If you don't mind, I would like to know what are you talking about??? Are you saying that one can earn BTC0.01 a day with rotator script??? If yes, please PM me and send me one for me to see how it's possible... Also, if possible, please send it with the steps mentioned as to what is to be done to earn those amounts... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) it something that i have made with some design help from friend here on forum you add you faucet and do you thing no reff for me or anyone else the idea was to make it free and still is free if some one want to donate it can do so supports btc, ltc, doge, dash, ppc, xpm and anything else you can remember tested and works fine (some have issues with iframe code and pop out of the script) anyway here is my tread about faucet and script is here for download https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=768932.msg8666329#msg8666329if you think i deserve donation feel free to do it on addresses provided there
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November 09, 2015, 10:05:19 AM |
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it something that i have made with some design help from friend here on forum you add you faucet and do you thing no reff for me or anyone else the idea was to make it free and still is free if some one want to donate it can do so supports btc, ltc, doge, dash, ppc, xpm and anything else you can remember tested and works fine (some have issues with iframe code and pop out of the script) anyway here is my tread about faucet and script is here for download https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=768932.msg8666329#msg8666329if you think i deserve donation feel free to do it on addresses provided there Oh ok... I thought something else... But thanks for the script, I am going to download and will start a site for sure for others to earn with me, that way, I might get some good amount of referrals by spreading just one link, that too my own instead of some other rotators... I checked out the script and it's good, well I will donate something to you for sure if I get some good referrals with your script... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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November 09, 2015, 04:05:42 PM |
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there are so many threads like this. better u go check first before u posting ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) best way to earn here is by signature campaign, trading, and gambling. My apologies for making another thread. I'll do my best not to make a duplicate thread again. I'll do a search before I create a thread. With that out of the way, signature campaign! I'm in the same one as yours! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) 777coin seems really good, so yeah. Trading: I'll try that and see if I can get some more coins to play with:) Gambling: Yes, yes, yes. Gambling is fun, I'll have to say. 777coin makes it fun too :p Anyways, thanks for the advice! I don't recommend gambling. They're got house edge so you will eventually lose, no matter what. Just gamble what are you willing to lose ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Gambling can be a good idea for you only if you are really good at it. But if you aren't why not simply provide a service (S/W development, etc.) to earn your BTCs? seems like a good and legit idea to me. I would go for providing service as a way to earn BTCs myself.
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November 09, 2015, 04:19:13 PM |
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there are so many threads like this. better u go check first before u posting ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) best way to earn here is by signature campaign, trading, and gambling. My apologies for making another thread. I'll do my best not to make a duplicate thread again. I'll do a search before I create a thread. With that out of the way, signature campaign! I'm in the same one as yours! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) 777coin seems really good, so yeah. Trading: I'll try that and see if I can get some more coins to play with:) Gambling: Yes, yes, yes. Gambling is fun, I'll have to say. 777coin makes it fun too :p Anyways, thanks for the advice! I don't recommend gambling. They're got house edge so you will eventually lose, no matter what. Just gamble what are you willing to lose ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Gambling can be a good idea for you only if you are really good at it. But if you aren't why not simply provide a service (S/W development, etc.) to earn your BTCs? seems like a good and legit idea to me. I would go for providing service as a way to earn BTCs myself. I don't know if you can consider gambling to be a good idea. Most of the gambling sites are pretty unregulated. And I think the most common is dice. Dice is a game of chance. There are systems... yes. But ultimately your fate is random. And it is pointed twords the house winning. Do not take your hard earned money an gamble it and consider it an investment. If you do it know your doing it for fun.
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November 09, 2015, 04:34:27 PM |
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there are so many threads like this. better u go check first before u posting ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) best way to earn here is by signature campaign, trading, and gambling. My apologies for making another thread. I'll do my best not to make a duplicate thread again. I'll do a search before I create a thread. With that out of the way, signature campaign! I'm in the same one as yours! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) 777coin seems really good, so yeah. Trading: I'll try that and see if I can get some more coins to play with:) Gambling: Yes, yes, yes. Gambling is fun, I'll have to say. 777coin makes it fun too :p Anyways, thanks for the advice! I don't recommend gambling. They're got house edge so you will eventually lose, no matter what. Just gamble what are you willing to lose ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Gambling can be a good idea for you only if you are really good at it. But if you aren't why not simply provide a service (S/W development, etc.) to earn your BTCs? seems like a good and legit idea to me. I would go for providing service as a way to earn BTCs myself. I don't know if you can consider gambling to be a good idea. Most of the gambling sites are pretty unregulated. And I think the most common is dice. Dice is a game of chance. There are systems... yes. But ultimately your fate is random. And it is pointed twords the house winning. Do not take your hard earned money an gamble it and consider it an investment. If you do it know your doing it for fun. Better you play on sport betting since you're just need deep analysis to predict the result and ofcourse it's easier to win in average. For example : I did predict the result for last year world cup and makes me win x7
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November 09, 2015, 10:57:05 PM |
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Yes if Im going to gamble, I will choose sports betting especially in basketball and besides I even have a thread for prediction picks with analyzation on some of my games.
Another one that worth to gamble is biy investing in bitcoin. To became familiarize just seek a guide from an advance trader to help you read the charts.
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November 09, 2015, 11:22:41 PM |
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Bitcoin faucets - referral earnings from these. Great way to earn and learn.
I think signature campaigns come second, they're great for a while but you can earn way more with faucets if you are smart! There's a lot of ways to earn. If you have a skill you can offer that for Bitcoin, graphic designers, developers - especially front-end devs are heavily in demand. You have to get in where you can fit in with Bitcoin!
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November 10, 2015, 01:49:53 AM |
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Bitcoin faucets - referral earnings from these. Great way to earn and learn.
I think signature campaigns come second, they're great for a while but you can earn way more with faucets if you are smart! There's a lot of ways to earn. If you have a skill you can offer that for Bitcoin, graphic designers, developers - especially front-end devs are heavily in demand. You have to get in where you can fit in with Bitcoin!
yeah we know at faucet we have only small chance to get "more referal" (maybe 1000+ref) and im sure only smart people can take advantage of it
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November 10, 2015, 01:59:18 AM |
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hit up bitbond, its a new P2P lending system, ive lent some btc there and have made some profits, also i think they do tons of checks to ensure people receiving loans cant scam.
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November 10, 2015, 02:10:05 AM |
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Yes if Im going to gamble, I will choose sports betting especially in basketball and besides I even have a thread for prediction picks with analyzation on some of my games.
Another one that worth to gamble is biy investing in bitcoin. To became familiarize just seek a guide from an advance trader to help you read the charts.
so gamble do you think is the best way to get bitcoin? I myself like to gamble and I think tennis is the easiest in the appeal basketball ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 10, 2015, 06:42:04 AM |
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Yes if Im going to gamble, I will choose sports betting especially in basketball and besides I even have a thread for prediction picks with analyzation on some of my games.
Another one that worth to gamble is biy investing in bitcoin. To became familiarize just seek a guide from an advance trader to help you read the charts.
so gamble do you think is the best way to get bitcoin? I myself like to gamble and I think tennis is the easiest in the appeal basketball ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Every time you gamble, do you do research beforehand for the game that you will bet on? And also, in the end, do you make a profit, or have you made a loss?
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The Rules - Don' gamble your money - Don't invest at ponzi scheme
The way - faucet - signature campaign - adsens from blog (like bitmedia, a-ads etc) - trading and invest at bitcoin price(risk for beginning) - service ( if you have skill)
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it's an endless talk. We do not talk about the same thing. I talk about the system and you talk about the system owner... Of course nothing is risk free... signature campaign are then in same way not risk free you publish and it is not sure that you will be paid.
I have paid my hosting for 2 years and it is a risk that the host fall down. I talk about my system. My system is "risk free".
Why do you argument with a ponzi if my site is not a ponzi? If you are not able to argument about my system then you are out of topic. A ponzi is a risky system and i do not contest it.
if you find the single risk in my system I will send back all investment and profit and close my site. Unfortubnately for you you will not find because it is impossible to find a risk with a "risk free" system.
Ok...I agree you take the risk that I'm a scammer. But this has nothing to see with my system. If I want scam I have no need to run a scam site. I sell ad-space and close my sites and disappear... Why should I start to scam after 20 years webmastering? You make me laugh like many other ones before you.
See mellowads... it is down and all the advisers risk to loose all the invested sach and all publishers risk never see their publisher cash. And we can all admit that the system is "risk free"... the risk is aside...it's a perfect exemple. With my system it is exactly the same... The risk is aside... And if something bad would happen... the "pain" would be bigger for me that for the investors...
If you are not able to understand what I mean about "risk free" then I can not help you more... I hope my investors have understood...what means "risk free"
We are talking about the same thing - the system. You are a part of your system. You will recall that when we first discussed this the example I used was of the US government - even US government bonds can not be described as "risk free" because of the risk that the US government defaults. You say that signature campaigns are not risk free - that is correct. It is also a red herring. Campaign managers running signature campaigns are not governments - why should they be less likely to default? "Risk free" has a specific meaning. I understand what that meaning is. You do not appear to. At least, I assume that that is the explanation - it is possible you understand perfectly well what it means, but choose to pretend otherwise. I linked to a Wikipedia article that explains "risk free bond" when we first discussed this. You should read it. It describes a theoretical investment used in modelling because actual risk free investments don't exist. Not even signature campaigns. With your system there is a risk that you default. Pretending otherwise is dishonest and scammy. You have a choice whether to misapply existing terms to deceive your "investors". I hope you choose instead to be honest.
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