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January 23, 2020, 09:05:36 PM
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People who believe Earth is flat are definitely not crazy. Judge by yourself -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H110vCGvTmM
The problem with most FE videos is, they portray 3D rather than 2D. If the earth is flat, why don't essentially all FE videos portray 2D rather than 3D? After all, there is nothing that is flat... certainly not the earth.

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January 24, 2020, 04:52:09 AM
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Picture taken from the peak of Mounth Everest.

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January 24, 2020, 03:58:23 PM
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Picture taken from the peak of Mounth Everest.

https://i.imgur.com/yFEg47n.png

Picture taken from the peak of Mount Everest (GoPro corrected).



https://havecamerawilltravel.com/lightroom/correct-gopro-fisheye-distortion/







People who believe Earth is flat are definitely not crazy. Judge by yourself -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H110vCGvTmM
The problem with most FE videos is, they portray 3D rather than 2D. If the earth is flat, why don't essentially all FE videos portray 2D rather than 3D? After all, there is nothing that is flat... certainly not the earth.

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You didn't even bother to click on the link, it's a flat earth conference mockery video you absolute putz! This is the second time that video has been spammed, the fucking user even created an account just to spam it!



Authentic flat earth video:

   Lack of Earth's Curvature - 37 Scientific Experiments (2018) -- https://youtu.be/qUfilDNrDyQ
   
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January 24, 2020, 10:30:42 PM
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Picture taken from the peak of Mounth Everest.

https://i.imgur.com/yFEg47n.png

Picture taken from the peak of Mount Everest (GoPro corrected).

https://i.imgur.com/AoK618M.png

https://havecamerawilltravel.com/lightroom/correct-gopro-fisheye-distortion/







People who believe Earth is flat are definitely not crazy. Judge by yourself -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H110vCGvTmM
The problem with most FE videos is, they portray 3D rather than 2D. If the earth is flat, why don't essentially all FE videos portray 2D rather than 3D? After all, there is nothing that is flat... certainly not the earth.

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You didn't even bother to click on the link, it's a flat earth conference mockery video you absolute putz! This is the second time that video has been spammed, the fucking user even created an account just to spam it!

https://i.imgur.com/VjJN6Cs.jpg

Authentic flat earth video:

   Lack of Earth's Curvature - 37 Scientific Experiments (2018) -- https://youtu.be/qUfilDNrDyQ
   

You mean you admit that you use GoPro CGI?



And you know that I didn't click on some link, how? Are you tracking my Internet IP address?

Besides, what I said doesn't have anything to do with the video necessarily. I merely point out a fact.



Look. Why don't you make life easier on yourself. Simply change your handle to notflatman.

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January 25, 2020, 06:14:13 PM
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Earth - The Blue Marble


https://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/0/565/BlueMarble.jpg


Marbles are not flat.  Tongue
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January 25, 2020, 08:20:01 PM
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^^^

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January 25, 2020, 11:59:50 PM
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^^^ Your chair at the FE conference?      Cheesy

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January 26, 2020, 08:30:30 AM
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Well, I have returned from my trip to Antarctica ...

I took this picture off the coast of Antarctica at 1:30 am, facing south. The sun set a couple of hours before in the south and it rose in the south a couple hours later.

I would be interested in knowing how the flat earth model explains this. According to my understanding of the flat earth model, the sun should be on the other side of the north pole right now, and not south of me. In fact, it should never be south of me if it is circling the Earth 3000 miles above the Tropic of Capricorn.

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January 26, 2020, 11:38:27 AM
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^^^ The firmament's concave mirror reflects the light and it wraps around.





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January 26, 2020, 04:42:09 PM
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^^^ The firmament's concave mirror reflects the light and it wraps around.

That doesn't seem right. At noon, I could see the sun in the north as expected, but then as the day went on, it started heading around to the west and south. At what point did it become a reflection of itself, and why didn't perspective and refraction cause it to appear to set in the north like you would expect?

Do you have a diagram to show how the light "wraps around" the firmament's concave mirror? Your images don't show that effect. I don't see how it is possible.


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January 26, 2020, 05:06:36 PM
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^^^ You wanted an answer, you got one. The provided images while not exactly what I was looking for give some idea of what's going on.

I'm not wasting a massive amount of time producing or searching for illustrations and photos of an effect where agents have burnt a lot of time manually removing said images. I'll just take my chips to the cashier k thx.

The question at hand is whether the surface of earth curves or not, this is irregardless of what the lights in the sky are doing. Pointing at the lights in the sky is a distraction technique. The image you provided indicates that the earth is flat for as far as that camera can see.
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January 26, 2020, 10:31:10 PM
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^^^ You wanted an answer, you got one. The provided images while not exactly what I was looking for give some idea of what's going on.

I'm not wasting a massive amount of time producing or searching for illustrations and photos of an effect where agents have burnt a lot of time manually removing said images. I'll just take my chips to the cashier k thx.

The question at hand is whether the surface of earth curves or not, this is irregardless of what the lights in the sky are doing. Pointing at the lights in the sky is a distraction technique. The image you provided indicates that the earth is flat for as far as that camera can see.

You didn't really provide an answer. You provided some speculation. You claim that the firmament's concave mirror reflects the light and it wraps around, but you don't really know how that could even work. So, you are really just providing a guess and calling it an answer.

I can accept that you don't have the ability to explain how some things work, but honestly I think that "I don't know" would go a lot further than providing some dubious and unsupported claim. You say that you don't want to waste time supporting your claim, but what about the time I waste trying to understand it? If you don't want anybody to waste their time, I suggest that you don't make claims that you are not willing to support.

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January 26, 2020, 11:06:47 PM
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^^^ He's just trying to keep the thread alive to see how big he can grow it. He knows the earth isn't flat.

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January 26, 2020, 11:57:22 PM
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@odolvlobo you can see the wrap-around lighting effect in the bottom of a coffee mug FFS. You want to speculate that the surface of the earth curves based on observations of lights in the sky, yet when I speculate on those same lights you start calling the kettle black.

I can see all the search engines had agents put time into manually removing search results to the images I want to post, this being the case the somewhat weak images I did find will have to suffice. I think they're rather informative IMO.

The light sources in the sky are speculative in nature and any conclusions derived thereof must also follow. You're distracting and diverting from the fact that the earth is observably and measurably flat for as far as a modern super-zoom camera can see.

me: "the earth is observably and measurably flat and motionless!"
you: "hold my beer!"

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January 27, 2020, 12:48:56 AM
Last edit: January 27, 2020, 01:20:50 AM by odolvlobo
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@odolvlobo you can see the wrap-around lighting effect in the bottom of a coffee mug FFS.

I can see a lighting effect but it is not the observed lighting effect, especially if the light is inside the mug.

You want to speculate that the surface of the earth curves based on observations of lights in the sky, yet when I speculate on those same lights you start calling the kettle black.

Not true. I simply asked how the observation is explained on a flat earth. I made no assertions about a curved earth, though I don't deny my bias.


The light sources in the sky are speculative in nature and any conclusions derived thereof must also follow.

That's a very reasonable reply.

... the fact that the earth is observably and measurably flat for as far as a modern super-zoom camera can see.

That is open to debate because the same camera seems to show examples of flat earth (objects seen above the horizon) and spherical earth (objects obscured by the horizon).

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January 27, 2020, 01:16:56 AM
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Some thoughts ...

My goal here is to understand the scientific basis behind the belief in a flat earth. I try to never assert that the earth is spherical or that evidence proves or demonstrates it because that would be unproductive.

My opinion so far is that the scientific basis for a flat earth is much weaker than I expected. I suppose that should not be surprising since those with the most aptitude for science are generally indoctrinated in mainstream scientific beliefs from an early age, and that generally leaves those with less aptitude to work outside of the mainstream. It also doesn't help that funding for such research is minimal at best.

The most interesting thing I have learned from flat earth science is that the Michelson-Morley experiment can also be interpreted as evidence that the Earth is motionless.

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January 27, 2020, 08:35:20 AM
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Flat earth is a joke of epic proportions. Lol
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January 27, 2020, 10:55:04 AM
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@odolvlobo,

   When the globe claims we're riding a 1,000 MPH (rim speed) flywheel that has a diameter of 8,000 miles, I call that weak because I know that the shear forces involved would cause an instant explosion to happen.

When the globe claims a pressure gradient (air) exists next to a vacuum without a container, I call that weak because I know it's a violation of the second law of thermodynamics.

When the globe claims we're travelling at 66,600 MPH while spinning 1,000 MPH, I call that weak because I've been on a mad carnival ride before. I know a precision gyroscope proven to react to a 15 deg/hr rotation does not react to the globe's claim that we're spinning.

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... the fact that the earth is observably and measurably flat for as far as a modern super-zoom camera can see.

That is open to debate because the same camera seems to show examples of flat earth (objects seen above the horizon) and spherical earth (objects obscured by the horizon).

What's the debate? There's water in the air and it causes a refractive effect (there's a multitude of effects) called looming where objects in the far distance are magnified. The magnified objects are cropped at bottom by the horizon vanishing line.

In fact I've discussed looming, other refractive effects & optical compression with you before so I'm really just left with the impression that you're intellectually dishonest. The fact you pressed me for censored/memory holed images & diagrams makes it seem like you glow in the dark.
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January 27, 2020, 11:32:59 AM
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What's the debate? There isn't any debate. There isn't anything flat. Look it up. "Flat" is relative. The earth isn't flat, just like it isn't a perfect globe. But it certainly isn't flat with all its mountains and valleys. Even in a flat area, the mountains and valleys are there, although they might be microscopic. "Flat Earth" is a figment of notflatman's imagination.

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  When the globe claims we're riding a 1,000 MPH (rim speed) flywheel that has a diameter of 8,000 miles, I call that weak because I know that the sheer forces involved would cause an instant explosion to happen.
That's because you don't have a good sense of the physics involved. The centripetal force is F = mv2/ r. Plug in the numbers and you will see that it is much lower than the force of buoyancy and that is why we don't go flying off into space.

When the globe claims a pressure gradient (air) exists next to a vacuum without a container, I call that weak because I know it's a violation of the second law of thermodynamics.
That's because you are overlooking the effect of buoyancy on the air. Air falls to the earth in a vacuum just as other objects fall to the earth in a vacuum.

When the globe claims we're travelling at 66,600 MPH while spinning 1,000 MPH, I call that weak because I've been on a mad carnival ride before.
Again, that's because you don't have a good sense of the physics involved. Haven't you traveled anywhere? Whether you are in a car going 50 mph, on a train going 100 mph, in a plane going 700 mph, or hurtling through space at 66000 mph, it is like you are standing still because everything around you is doing the same thing. It is called an "inertial frame of reference". And again, while "spinning at 1,000 MPH" might seem like a lot, if you do the math you will see that it is not. Spinning 1000 mph on the earth is as much of a carnival ride as a bug running around a basketball.

... the fact that the earth is observably and measurably flat for as far as a modern super-zoom camera can see.
That is open to debate because the same camera seems to show examples of flat earth (objects seen above the horizon) and spherical earth (objects obscured by the horizon).
What's the debate? There's water in the air and it causes a refractive effect (there's a multitude of effects) called looming where objects in the far distance are magnified. The magnified objects are cropped at bottom by the horizon vanishing line.

In fact I've discussed looming, other refractive effects & optical compression with you before so I'm really just left with the impression that you're intellectually dishonest. The fact you pressed me for censored/memory holed images & diagrams makes it seem like you glow in the dark.

The debate is over why the camera seems to produce contradictory observations. Both sides have explanations, but neither seems to be sufficient to convince the other side.

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