Flat Earth

[Cryptotourist]

I'm trying to keep myself at bay here, but I'm finding it very difficult indeed.

Of course trying to rationalize with Batty - is a noble cause - but it leads nowhere.
His mind is made up already & so is his agenda.

[notbatman]

@odolvlobo,

"...So, if I put my eye at ground level the sun doesn't appear to set?..."

How do you come to such an irrational conclusion?

Lowering your perspective will cause a uniform compression of the sun as it sets, it will vanish sooner because of more complete compression. The vanishing point and thus the horizon has a reduced distance with your ear to the ground.

If you stand up the sun will reappear as the topmost part of the sun is expanded. It returns so it's within the confines of the observers angular resolution limit due, to an increased angle of attack.

While the sun is being compressed and passing the vanishing point at the horizon, looming magnifies its size. Looming as I stated before is caused by suspended water droplets in the atmosphere that create a composite lens.









edit:

Here's some P1000 footage with filmed with a solar filter:
   Mission Bay Sunset: Atmosplanic Compression -- https://youtu.be/JJqNe10tG7I

[HI-TEC99]

edit:

Here's some P1000 footage with filmed with a solar filter:
   Mission Bay Sunset: Atmosplanic Compression -- https://youtu.be/JJqNe10tG7I

This youtube review says the P1000 is shit, so it's pointless trying to prove the Earth is flat with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHiYizz7Acs



Your camera is shit.

[guigui371]

Hey Nobatman,
I am curious to know where does the sun go when it is night time? 

Do they just turn if off on the ceiling (of the dome) ?
This is an actual legit question.

On globe earth it is easy to understand, the sun is on the other side of the earth (or the globe earth rotated and another part of it is in direct sight of the sun).

How does it work with a flat-disc earth ?

How do you explain, that some people on earth still have day light when some don't.
If the earth is flat, and the sun an object on the dome, then everybody should see it at the same time.


I obviously don't believe in FE, but I am curious to know how you explain the day/night cycle and the fact that not everybody has the same light pattern.

Cheers

[odolvlobo]

"...So, if I put my eye at ground level the sun doesn't appear to set?..."

How do you come to such an irrational conclusion?
...

Ok, I think I finally figured out what you are saying. You are explaining why the bottom of the sun is flat instead of round, so that it appears to go below the plane when it actually doesn't. Sorry, my globe earth biases obviously get in the way.

[notbatman]

@odolvlobo,








@guigui371,

"...Do they just turn if off on the ceiling (of the dome) ?..."

Such irrationality.

The sun is a close small object made from electrical plasma and it travels in a circle above us around the north pole. The earth is large enough that the sun only lights up part of the surface at once. The sun also has a yearly bi-annual lateral movement that accounts for the seasons.

[guigui371]

Such irrationality.

That was on purpose

The sun is a close small object made from electrical plasma and it travels in a circle above us around the north pole. The earth is large enough that the sun only lights up part of the surface at once. The sun also has a yearly bi-annual lateral movement that accounts for the seasons.

You could have provided a photo to explain.
I guess i found my answer (it is a cool GIF)
https://wiki.tfes.org/File:SunAnimation.gif


Almost convincing.

[notbatman]

@HI-TEC99,


Canon EF 1200mm f/5.6 L USM
MSRP:  ‎$89,579 USD

vs.

Nikon P1000 | Focal length (equiv.): 24–3000 mm
MSRP: $999.95 USD

[ComaWombat]

I've never understood flat eathers' boners for cheap compact cameras like the Nikon P900 or its successor. They're hailed as the holy grails of cameras and when they're not able to focus correctly because of their cheap electronics and optics, the non-focused blurry images are considered to be the "true" forms of planets and stars by flat earthers. And vice versa, truly sharp pictures which are shot with better equipment and focused correctly are considered to be fakes produced by the illuminati or something.

Most sensible people would consider badly focused images as crap, but ghost hunters, flat eathers and UFO nuts thrive on crappy, shaken, badly focused and blurry images which are believed to show the "truth".

[hornetsnest]

[HI-TEC99]

@HI-TEC99,


Canon EF 1200mm f/5.6 L USM
MSRP:  ‎$89,579 USD

vs.

Nikon P1000 | Focal length (equiv.): 24–3000 mm
MSRP: $999.95 USD

Cheapskate, what's up with the $89,579 USD one?

These reviews all say your cheap camera is shit.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4351947

photo quality just seems to be utter crap

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/customer-reviews/R2CT25VVPCK8FT/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B07FMZF4Y7

the images are awful, this camera has wayyyyyy to small of a sensor, cell phones have a bigger better sensor than this has

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/customer-reviews/R3KLDU8ZQL3BNC/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B07FMZF4Y7
 

Picture quality is not very good and grainy. Forget low light photography with this one. They need to put in a better sensor

It's predecessor was so shit that someone used it to "prove" a basketball is flat.



Remind you of anything?



Is the death star flat too?

[notbatman]

@HI-TEC99,

   I'm gonna call you out on that one.

[HI-TEC99]

@HI-TEC99,

   I'm gonna call you out on that one.

So a basketball is round despite the P900 "evidence", but the Earth is flat because of your P1000 shit camera "evidence"?

[Cryptotourist]

   I'm gonna call you out on that one.

You can't call anything, even if it was sitting on your nose.

I hope your charting is not as bad as your Photoshop skills, you extraordinary cunt.
The basketball is undeniably, observable & measurable flat - as is the Death Star, and anyone who that can't see that, better rope himself or bake in an oven.

~ Sorry guys ~

On the other hand, our planet Earth is not flat - but rather a blue marble spinning into space.

[notbatman]

...
So a basketball is round despite the P900 "evidence", but the Earth is flat because of your P1000 shit camera "evidence"?

The earth is not a globe, it fails a distance to the horizon test with a wide margin of error when a zoom lens is employed; the default is flat. The close-up of a basketball is a failed attempt a mockery, it literally shows a curve.



FDSS is bad, but it's the only one that works.

BTW I can fail the globe with any zoom lens that an angular resolution limit of less than 1 minute.

[HI-TEC99]

...
So a basketball is round despite the P900 "evidence", but the Earth is flat because of your P1000 shit camera "evidence"?

The earth is not a globe, it fails a distance to the horizon test with a wide margin of error when a zoom lens is employed

Your P1000 only has a big zoom because it has a shit sensor. I bet you haven't even tried your "test" with a ‎$89,579 USD Canon EF 1200mm f/5.6 L USM.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskPhotography/comments/8zk20g/do_you_think_the_nikon_coolpix_p1000_is_a_little/e2jk5g2/

The small sensor on the p1000 makes the ridonkulous focal length possible. If the sensor were bigger, the lens would have to be much, much bigger to cover it.

With that said, the sensor is "shitty" in the sense that a $200 D3100 will outperform it

Your camera is shit.

[Cryptotourist]

Your camera is shit.

You're talking to Batty here, shit for brains - shit for camera, check.

[notbatman]

@HI-TEC99,

   The test relies on a landmark of known distance. I could pull the sensor from a PXL-2000 and still fail the globe with a lens made from coke bottles.

Proving the earth is flat with a P1000 is like exterminating a mouse with a rail gun.

Whitney (shot in Pixelvision) PXL 2000 -- https://youtu.be/bSu7NjC51Xs

[josephsonand]

Go on a first date with a girl in such a car

[DaveWave]

Go on a first date with a girl in such a car

It is some kind of funny but it could do just fine if both are also flat earth believers. If not, it is hard to imagine how it works out. Unless you are changing the car into a Lamborghini, the other one might adjust.