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June 16, 2019, 02:03:22 PM
Last edit: June 16, 2019, 02:57:52 PM by notbatman
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^^^ You're a fucking liar, you can measure distances with sextant and it's 1 nautical mile per 1 minute. The diameter of the Sun can be measured directly and it's 32 minutes.  

Stellar parallax is crock of shit, refraction causes a margin of error greater than the measurement being made. Also if all the stars are a different distances why do they all move as a group never changing relative positions to one another, shit for brains.



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June 16, 2019, 02:24:12 PM
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^^^ Refraction index can be determined and accounted for, because there isn't any atmospheric refraction when the object is directly overhead.

Show us how to measure the distance to an object with the sextant alone, not knowing the distance to, or size of, any object or shadow. How does it work? Show us the complete equation.

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June 16, 2019, 02:36:37 PM
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^^^ You have to change the subject from the Sun's diameter to it's distance from the viewer because you can't debunk the fact the Sun is 32 minutes wide as measured directly. We know 1 minute is equal to 1 nautical mile and that's enough to measure objects.

inb4 bad start spewing shit about an objects apparent size, angles measured with a sextant are the angle between the horizon and the object not between the viewer and the object. Bad will try and push this bullshit because most people don't understand how a sextant works.
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June 16, 2019, 06:16:20 PM
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^^^  ....you can't debunk the fact the Sun is 32 minutes minutes wide as measured directly.

because it is.... you trolling moron

....We know 1 minute is equal to 1 nautical mile ......

no we don't ,... you trolling moron (read odolvlobo post again, which you conveniently did not respond to)



.... that's enough to measure objects.

no its not,  you trolling moron (read odolvlobo post again, which you conveniently did not respond to)


..... because most people don't understand how a sextant works.

including yourself, you trolling moron

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June 16, 2019, 07:38:49 PM
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^^^ You have to change the subject from the Sun's diameter to it's distance from the viewer because you can't debunk the fact the Sun is 32 minutes wide as measured directly. We know 1 minute is equal to 1 nautical mile and that's enough to measure objects.

I'm confused about what you are saying.

1. Degrees, minutes, and seconds are measurements of angles. 1 degree = 60 minutes. 1 minute = 60 seconds
2. 1 nautical mile (nm) is defined as 1 minute of latitude, but that only applies to measurements of the earth.

Do you disagree with any of those?

edit: removed math errors

There are other facts you can determine from 1 minute = 1 nm. The distance from the north pole to the equator is 90 degrees = 5400 minutes = 5400 nm, so 6214 miles. On a flat earth, the distance around the earth along the equator is 2π x 6214 = 39,000 miles. The distance from the north pole to the south pole is 180 degrees = 10800 minutes = 10800 nm, so 12428 miles. On a flat earth, the distance around the earth along the southern edge is 2π x 12428 = 78,100 miles.

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June 16, 2019, 08:24:38 PM
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^^^ You have to change the subject from the Sun's diameter to it's distance from the viewer because you can't debunk the fact the Sun is 32 minutes wide as measured directly. We know 1 minute is equal to 1 nautical mile and that's enough to measure objects.


That's at the surface of the earth.

All you are saying is that if the earth is flat, then the sun is such and such diameter because the angles at the flat earth show that the sun is so many miles above us. This means that the earth is flat.

You are doing what the evolution people do. They say evolution exists because some animals look like other animals, and by evolution they must look like they do if evolution exists. So, evolution exists.

You are using circular explanations.

On a globe, you can't tell how far the sun is from the earth simply by the 32 degrees. Trig needs another measurement besides the angle. Science has found the other measurements in different ways so that the 32 degrees can be used to find the distance to the Sun, and then, the sun's diameter. One of the methods is the parallax.

The distance to the sun has been calculated to about 93 million miles, and its diameter about 800,000 miles. Neither globe earth or sun distance and size were calculated with globe earth in mind. These measurements simply prove that the earth is a globe.

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June 17, 2019, 02:00:48 AM
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You guys are fucking retards and liars trying to confuse the subject.

@odolvlobo you fucking shit for brains, the Sun measures 32 minuets and it's a 1:1 ratio with nautical miles.

The ratio of 1 nautical mile to 1 minute is based on the angular resolution limits of the human eye. Measurements made with a sextant are made against a horizon that's based on convergence to a point, an optical phenomenon with the eye not a hard physical barrier like these fucking faggots want you to believe.

These fucking faggots want you to believe a sextant measures apparent size or some other shit, it measures angles from the horizon.
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June 17, 2019, 03:08:59 AM
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^^^ Why is it that you are so confused? Nobody else seems to be, 'cept. maybe, exemplaar.

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June 17, 2019, 04:29:24 AM
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@odolvlobo you fucking shit for brains, the Sun measures 32 minuets and it's a 1:1 ratio with nautical miles.

What?

The sun has an angular size of 32 minutes, or 0.533 degrees. I don't think anyone disagrees with that.

But you are saying that anything with an angular size of 32 minutes is 32 nautical miles across. That doesn't work. You can use a sextant to measure the height of a building. If the sextant measures 32 minutes, then is the building 32 nautical miles tall?

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June 17, 2019, 04:42:37 AM
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^^^ Fuck you faggot, trying to conflate apparent size with angles measured against the horizon.
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June 17, 2019, 05:23:43 AM
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^^^ Fuck you faggot, trying to conflate apparent size with angles measured against the horizon.

Whose doing the conflation? You are saying that 1 minute (an angle) is equal to 1 nautical mile (a size).

I don't understand why you disagree with me. I'm really trying to understand. I've shown you my math. Please stop name-calling and just point out my mistake.

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June 17, 2019, 05:45:32 AM
Last edit: June 17, 2019, 06:42:58 AM by notbatman
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This is what these faggots are so desperately trying to hide:



You can see the angle never changes no matter how close the telephone pole is. They feign ignorance in an attempt to lead people away from the truth, pretending apparent size is the angle depicted above in red.

The angle in red never fucking changes and it's based on the human eye, it doesn't matter how fucking close the object is!

The pole could be hanging from a fucking helicopter off in the distance, up in sky and it would still have the same fucking angle! Up, down, left, right, close up, far away it doesn't fucking matter the angle DOES NOT CHANGE EVER!!!!!!


The Sun is measured directly with a sextant to be 32 minuets or nautical miles in diameter. This would stand up in court.
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June 17, 2019, 10:40:48 AM
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On a rather calm yet breezy day, get out to the ocean. Through a telescope, watch a sailing ship coming in towards land. At a great distance away, only the topmost parts of the masts are visible on the horizon
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June 17, 2019, 10:48:42 AM
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f coarse you ask "but why would they lie, I don't understand". They lie because they're hiding the fact the Earth is flat and there is no space to travel to or in. We're inside a giant underwater terrarium and atmospheric life is an artificially created novelty.
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June 17, 2019, 11:30:16 AM
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On a rather calm yet breezy day, get out to the ocean. Through a telescope, watch a sailing ship coming in towards land. At a great distance away, only the topmost parts of the masts are visible on the horizon

It's because of perspective, convergence and atmospheric refraction. Now go kill yourself!

On a rather calm yet breezy day, get out to the ocean. Through a telescope, watch a sailing ship coming in towards land. At a great distance away, only the topmost parts of the masts are visible on the horizonOn a rather calm yet breezy day, get out to the ocean. Through a telescope, watch a sailing ship coming in towards land. At a great distance away, only the topmost parts of the masts are visible on the horizon

It's because of perspective, convergence and atmospheric refraction. Now go kill yourself!

I really hate having to repeat myself.
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June 17, 2019, 02:24:28 PM
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^^^ But perspective, convergence and atmospheric refraction have nothing to do with the fact that the ship is coming up over the horizon. All of the perspective, convergence and atmospheric refraction have to do with observations.

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June 18, 2019, 05:26:30 AM
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of coarse you ask "but why would they lie, I don't understand". They lie because they're hiding the fact the Earth is flat and there is no space to travel to or in. We're inside a giant underwater terrarium and atmospheric life is an artificially created novelty.
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June 18, 2019, 06:19:29 AM
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This is what these faggots are so desperately trying to hide:
https://i.imgur.com/zEOvqSg.jpg
You can see the angle never changes no matter how close the telephone pole is. They feign ignorance in an attempt to lead people away from the truth, pretending apparent size is the angle depicted above in red.
The angle in red never fucking changes and it's based on the human eye, it doesn't matter how fucking close the object is!
The pole could be hanging from a fucking helicopter off in the distance, up in sky and it would still have the same fucking angle! Up, down, left, right, close up, far away it doesn't fucking matter the angle DOES NOT CHANGE EVER!!!!!!

I don't understand what you are trying to show, and I don't know if this is related, but the angle does depend on how close to the plane of the poles you are. If you are not standing a mile away instead of next to the poles, the angle would be quite small.


The Sun is measured directly with a sextant to be 32 minuets or nautical miles in diameter. This would stand up in court.

I don't disagree with the angular size of the sun being 32 minutes. I'm just trying to figure out how 1 minute can equal 1 nautical mile. You are good at drawing diagrams. Please draw one that shows how 1 minute equals 1 nautical mile. Thanks.

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June 18, 2019, 06:25:09 AM
Last edit: June 18, 2019, 08:08:04 AM by notbatman
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The following user sent me a private message. However I'd to take the time to answer here so everybody can know.

You have good knowledge on the topic. I would like to add few thing that Through a telescope, watch a sailing ship coming in towards land. At a great distance away, only the topmost parts of the masts are visible on the horizon On a rather calm yet breezy day, get out to the ocean.

It's because of perspective, convergence and atmospheric refraction. Now go kill yourself and make sure to take BADecker with you.








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   I'm showing that the red angle is the same for all the poles. The distance of a pole from the observer does not change the angle in red because the angle is taken from the horizon. If the poles were a foot taller the red angle would be greater and if they were a foot shorter the red angle would be less.

Do you follow?

If I measure a pole with a sextant against the horizon the measurement will be a several seconds. Then if I measure the pole with a measuring tape the pole will be several feet tall.

Still following?

There will always be a 1:1 correlation between the pole's angle against the horizon and it's height. Because the angle is observed with the human eye when measuring with a sextant, it's the eyes angular resolution limit that defines the distance to the horizon and thus the angle measured.

Get it?
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June 18, 2019, 07:21:18 AM
Last edit: June 18, 2019, 07:41:06 AM by odolvlobo
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I'm showing that the red angle is the same for all the poles. The distance of a pole from the observer does not change the angle in red because the angle is taken from the horizon. If the poles were a foot taller the red angle would be greater and if they were a foot shorter the red angle would be less.
Do you follow?

Yes. The angle is due to perspective and it depends on the height of the poles and your distance from the plane of the poles.

If I measure the pole with a sextant against the horizon the reading will be a several seconds. Then if I measure the pole with a measuring tape the pole will be several feet tall.
Still following?

No. Which pole are you measuring with the sextant? Each pole will give you a different value.

There will always be a 1:1 correlation between the pole's angle against the horizon and it's height. Because the angle is observed with the human eye when measuring with a sextant, it's the eyes angular resolution limit that defines the distance to the horizon and thus the angle measured.
Get it?
No. You can only say that if you have a line of poles so that you can measure an angle based on where the poles converge to in the distance.

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