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 December 02, 2019, 04:23:11 PM

^ The earth is observably flat for as far as the eye can see, this is not a choice made by the observer.

https://i.imgur.com/pVNPpCD.jpg

Flat earth is literally the default, I don't have to prove what is apparent.

Now if you would only take your observations, and use them to find out what the Bible means when it seems to suggest that the earth is flat! Go the rest of the way into the Bible, and find Jesus-salvation, so that you can be saved for eternal life... even though other people go beyond the simple FE sayings of the Bible. The Bible is made for salvation, not for proving out science, though it often does this. Go the rest of the way and be saved.

If you come back and say that I am admitting that the earth is flat by what I said in my previous paragraph, you haven't really read the paragraph. To explain more...

The eye sees things that makes them appear flat when they are beyond a certain distance. Because we have two eyes that work together, and because we have focally adjusting lenses in our eyes, we can see the 3D of a chair that is right in front of us. But the further the distance away, the less capable we are of distinguishing the 3D of something. A chair that is 100 feet away from us doesn't appear in 3D form. It only appears flat (2D).

It's the same with the earth. Right in front of us, we can easily see the 3D of the earth. But at a distance, even a mountain looks flat, as the top of it rises to meet our eyes in a jagged, uplifted horizon. It all has to do with the things that they eye is capable of seeing correctly. The size of globe Earth is what makes it appear flat. The distance we have to look on GE is far greater than the unaided eye can see clearly. You have been saying this all along.

This is why we have instrumentation and measuring instruments to do what the eye can't do. The point of GE or FE when using the instruments, has to do with choosing how to interpret the info the instruments give to us. And at distances found on Earth, a tiny miscalculation in interpretation or observation can give  a gigantically false reading.

In other words, the same things that you are using to show FE, also give a GE reading. It is by choice and faith and religion that you are accepting a false reading of the instruments that you use or rely on. And that's okay, as long as your life and safety don't depend on it.

However, that's why when you use the Bible to show FE, you had better use the Bible for what it is designed for... salvation. Because your life depends on this.

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 December 02, 2019, 04:42:44 PM

^ The globe fails a distance to the horizon test with a wide margin of error using a super-zoom camera. The surface of the earth doesn't curve at any distance!

Not only is the earth flat for as far as the eye can see, the earth is flat for as far as the Nikon P1000 can see.
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^^^ You are so funny.   For hundreds of years people have been using telescopes, and have been finding that the horizon is what the standard says it is. And now all of a sudden your camera can see beyond the horizon.

You don't really need to maintain a FE religion or philosophy. But if you can start a minority group, there might be some money in it.

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 December 03, 2019, 01:11:47 AMLast edit: December 03, 2019, 02:54:32 AM by notbatman

^ The globe fails a distance to the horizon test with a wide margin of error.

"For hundreds of years people have" and "super-zoom camera" don't mesh. People have 120x optical zoom, never been.

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The globe also fails a rotational motion test with a gyroscope proven to maintain its position @ 15 deg/hr.

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The globe also fails a linear motion test with a Michelson interferometer.

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Gravity (relativistic) fails an experimental test when Dufour & Prunier accounted for a rotating frame of reference in their replication of the Sagnac experiment at the University of Paris in 1939.
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 December 03, 2019, 02:24:11 AM

^^^ How exciting! An old religion rejuvenated. Are these antiquated theories your dogma?

Say! Are you going to have a church building soon? If you have it 3D printed, you can save as much as 90%.

What about priests? Are you inaugurating yourself into priesthood?

Be sure to include Jesus-salvation so that you can be saved when you leave this plane of existence.

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 December 03, 2019, 02:59:01 AMLast edit: December 03, 2019, 03:22:34 AM by notbatman

^ The globe fails a distance to the horizon test with a wide margin of error using a modern super-zoom camera.

Here's documented evidence of the globe failing a distance to the horizon test with a wide margin of error, this evidence can be reproduced and verified:

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Flat Earth Proven Again - 11.22 Miles and ZERO Curvature [Wide Awake] -- https://youtu.be/6hqzqmY9ny8

Here's confirmation #1:
Simple Flat Earth Distance to the Horizon Test - Part 2 - Retest and Confirmation -- https://youtu.be/GAdd4aidDbg

How many do you need?
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 December 03, 2019, 03:17:12 AM

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The globe also fails a rotational motion test with a gyroscope proven to maintain its position @ 15 deg/hr.

What about the foucault pendulum ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucault_pendulum

I have physically been at the French museum where the original pendulum has been relocated (twice).
I have physically seen with my eyes the earth rotation.

This is something that you are replicate yourself in most gymnasium (the ceiling has to be high).

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 December 03, 2019, 03:38:42 AM

^^^ Either the earth rotates at 15 deg/hr or it doesn't. A gyroscope proven to maintain its position at 15 deg/hr can definitively determine this.

There are explanations for the Foucault pendulum including straight fraud, but we need not go there as it doesn't account for the globe failing a rotational motion test with a calibrated gyroscope.
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 December 03, 2019, 04:30:27 AMLast edit: December 03, 2019, 05:42:43 AM by ðºÞæ

edit:
The globe also fails a rotational motion test with a gyroscope proven to maintain its position @ 15 deg/hr.

What about the foucault pendulum ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucault_pendulum

I have physically been at the French museum where the original pendulum has been relocated (twice).
I have physically seen with my eyes the earth rotation.

This is something that you are replicate yourself in most gymnasium (the ceiling has to be high).

What material is the pendulum made of?  Magnets can cause havoc.
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 December 03, 2019, 05:24:07 AMMerited by guigui371 (1)

a solution to the flat earth debate

if a flat-earther can go to the edge of the planet and jump off it, with evidence to show they jumped off it.. they win

the tactic worked for witchcraft
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^ The globe fails a distance to the horizon test with a wide margin of error using a super-zoom camera. The surface of the earth doesn't curve at any distance!

Not only is the earth flat for as far as the eye can see, the earth is flat for as far as the Nikon P1000 can see.

The P1000 & P900 actually prove you wrong in many ways. Put a solar filter on your P1000, then go record the Sun set BELOW the horizon. Then after it sets, extend that sucker to its maximum zoom as many times as you wish, and then come back and tell me if the Sun was brought back into view. Can you do that? I doubt it. Ok, now you can go back to zooming in on out of focus stars and claiming reality when it is nothing more than your inept use of the camera by using autofocus and auto-exposure which do not function very well on a dark night sky. That being said, there are Multiple flat earth failures in the following linked video using a drone, and a Nikon mounted on a telescope mount to track the Sun. Anybody can do this. Let's hear the excuses.  https://youtu.be/gB1punBbeV8

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 December 03, 2019, 03:33:30 PMLast edit: December 03, 2019, 04:30:41 PM by notbatman

a solution to the flat earth debate

if a flat-earther can go to the edge of the planet and jump off it, with evidence to show they jumped off it.. they win

the tactic worked for witchcraft
if you survive you are a liar and not to be trusted, if you die you die with honour

I covered this a few days ago in another thread:

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People often ask "if the earth is flat then where's the edge, why hasn't anybody fallen off?".

The answer leads us to another hoax: the continent of Antarctica and the south pole. The earth is like a circular lake with islands in the middle, Antarctica is a wall of ice that forms the shore. Above the wall there's a plateau for some distance and then a ring of the highest mountains in the world, beyond that is the firmament of heaven.

Here's the edge:

Don't fall off, that water is ice cold and you wont survive long!

@hornetsnest,

^ The globe fails a distance to the horizon test with a wide margin of error using a super-zoom camera. The surface of the earth doesn't curve at any distance!

Not only is the earth flat for as far as the eye can see, the earth is flat for as far as the Nikon P1000 can see.

The P1000 & P900 actually prove you wrong in many ways. Put a solar filter on your P1000, then go record the Sun set BELOW the horizon. Then after it sets, extend that sucker to its maximum zoom as many times as you wish, and then come back and tell me if the Sun was brought back into view. Can you do that? I doubt it. Ok, now you can go back to zooming in on out of focus stars and claiming reality when it is nothing more than your inept use of the camera by using autofocus and auto-exposure which do not function very well on a dark night sky. That being said, there are Multiple flat earth failures in the following linked video using a drone, and a Nikon mounted on a telescope mount to track the Sun. Anybody can do this. Let's hear the excuses.  https://youtu.be/gB1punBbeV8

What the fuck does a solar filter have to do with the globe failing a distance to the horizon test you absolutely stunned cunt?

Also your video is from a fucking paid shill! The sun is affected by a refractive magnifying effect called looming and the change in observation height or angle of attack causes the sun's apparent size to increase, thus bringing it back within the angular resolution limit of the camera.

In case you missed it here's the globe failing the test:
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Flat Earth Proven Again - 11.22 Miles and ZERO Curvature [Wide Awake] -- https://youtu.be/6hqzqmY9ny8

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 December 03, 2019, 06:32:24 PM

What the fuck does a solar filter have to do with the globe failing a distance to the horizon test you absolutely stunned cunt?

Hey, you are the cunt Batty, you are the massive cunt.
Either that, or you're just amazingly stupid - or both.

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 December 04, 2019, 12:50:34 AM

What material is the pendulum made of?  Magnets can cause havoc.

The original one was in Lead.

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The first public exhibition of a Foucault pendulum took place in February 1851 in the Meridian of the Paris Observatory.
A few weeks later, Foucault made his most famous pendulum when he suspended a 28-kilogram (62 lb) brass-coated lead bob with a 67-metre long (220 ft) wire from the dome of the Panthéon, Paris.
The period of the pendulum was 16.5 seconds.
Because the latitude of its location was  48°52' N, the plane of the pendulum's swing made a full circle in approximately } = 31.8 hours (31 hours 50 minutes), rotating clockwise approximately 11.3° per hour.

But i guess you could make one with a stone perfectly carved in the shape of a ball and use a cord made of nylon and you would get the same results.

I would really like to know who FE can debunk this ?
The experiment was created in 1851 way before the NASA / big brother and others.

People often ask "if the earth is flat then where's the edge, why hasn't anybody fallen off?".

The answer leads us to another hoax: the continent of Antarctica and the south pole. The earth is like a circular lake with islands in the middle, Antarctica is a wall of ice that forms the shore. Above the wall there's a plateau for some distance and then a ring of the highest mountains in the world, beyond that is the firmament of heaven.

Here's the edge:

Don't fall off, that water is ice cold and you wont survive long!

Ok, but where is the edge ?
Like, the drop, the part where if you make 1 extra step, you fall in the a huge void, or you touche the side of the magic wall.
Do you think you could ask a FE to go and take a photo with the P900 ?

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 December 04, 2019, 01:07:32 AMLast edit: December 04, 2019, 01:58:59 AM by notbatman

^^^ There's mountains [Olympus] then an electrified dome [firmament] beyond the plateau, that's the most edge you're going to get!

"And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters." -- Matthew 8:32, KJV

Antarctica - Sorry We're Closed! Our Hidden Flat Earth -- https://youtu.be/NPbhHpeHTiE

Eric Dubay: Foucault's Pendulum DEBUNKED! EARTH IS FLAT! -- https://youtu.be/ek-H23wtzoI
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 December 04, 2019, 01:50:53 AM

^^^

Let me just check one thing here, you said :
Antarctica is a wall of ice that forms the shore. Above the wall there's a plateau for some distance and then a ring of the highest mountains in the world, beyond that is the firmament of heaven.

So, if the earth is Flat (no curvature), then when you look ahead you should be able to see your "highest mountains in the world", no ?
Especially when you are at a place like where I am (New Zealand) and that the view (from the beach) is uninterrupted untill Antartica.

Maybe the P900 is not strong enough to see the "highest mountains" in the world, but surely, something more powerful could be used to prove the existence mountains.

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^^^ The P900 can see a few hundred miles at sea level with an infrared conversion and filter, there's simply too much haze beyond that; the atmosphere is a limiting factor.
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^^^ There's mountains [Olympus] then an electrified dome [firmament] beyond the plateau, that's the most edge you're going to get!

"And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters." -- Matthew 8:32, KJV

Antarctica - Sorry We're Closed! Our Hidden Flat Earth -- https://youtu.be/NPbhHpeHTiE

Eric Dubay: Foucault's Pendulum DEBUNKED! EARTH IS FLAT! -- https://youtu.be/ek-H23wtzoI

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