Flat Earth

[notbatman]

^^^ Weather permitting i.e. a cool, clear, dry day with little to no atmospheric refraction, the minimum distance to the horizon can be measured and documented accurately with a large margin of error using a landmark of known distance, all with a consumer grade super-zoom camera.

All sorts of measurements can be made, such blatant gate-keeping on your part.

It looks to me like the miniaturization of optical sensors and the mass production of high quality lenses is having as much, or more of a revolutionary effect as the miniaturization of computers.

[BADecker]

^^^ We can use a camera on the transit on the mountain. The mountain doesn't have to be high. Notice how you can see much farther in every direction from the top of the mountain. Flat doesn't fit the measurements on the mountain.

[notbatman]

@BADecker come back when you have some evidence that can be debunked, otherwise you're just spewing nonsense and confusion.

Observations from mountain tops support a flat and motionless earth including transits of celestial objects. You can see so far up there for one because it's flat, and secondly because the observer's viewing angle is so large.

[BADecker]

^^^ Thanks for admitting that the evidence I show can't be debunked.

The idea is to show that the earth is not flat. Since the mountain evidence that I have been showing in my recent posts can't be debunked, why would I want to come back with some evidence that CAN be debunked? It's the things you say that are continually debunked.

Actually, it looks like you are gradually degenerating into a slobbering id***. Sure, it lengthens your thread. But it shortens your credibility.

Do you have such mental and emotional control that your degeneration can be maintained in your own mind as something that doesn't matter?

[Roman_Pleb]

People who believe Earth is flat are definitely not crazy. Judge by yourself -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H110vCGvTmM

[BADecker]

People who believe Earth is flat are definitely not crazy. Judge by yourself -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H110vCGvTmM

The problem with most FE videos is, they portray 3D rather than 2D. If the earth is flat, why don't essentially all FE videos portray 2D rather than 3D? After all, there is nothing that is flat... certainly not the earth.

[Paashaas]

Picture taken from the peak of Mounth Everest.

[notbatman]

Picture taken from the peak of Mounth Everest.

https://i.imgur.com/yFEg47n.png

Picture taken from the peak of Mount Everest (GoPro corrected).



https://havecamerawilltravel.com/lightroom/correct-gopro-fisheye-distortion/

People who believe Earth is flat are definitely not crazy. Judge by yourself -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H110vCGvTmM

The problem with most FE videos is, they portray 3D rather than 2D. If the earth is flat, why don't essentially all FE videos portray 2D rather than 3D? After all, there is nothing that is flat... certainly not the earth.

You didn't even bother to click on the link, it's a flat earth conference mockery video you absolute putz! This is the second time that video has been spammed, the fucking user even created an account just to spam it!



Authentic flat earth video:

   Lack of Earth's Curvature - 37 Scientific Experiments (2018) -- https://youtu.be/qUfilDNrDyQ
   

[BADecker]

Picture taken from the peak of Mounth Everest.

https://i.imgur.com/yFEg47n.png

Picture taken from the peak of Mount Everest (GoPro corrected).

https://i.imgur.com/AoK618M.png

https://havecamerawilltravel.com/lightroom/correct-gopro-fisheye-distortion/

People who believe Earth is flat are definitely not crazy. Judge by yourself -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H110vCGvTmM

The problem with most FE videos is, they portray 3D rather than 2D. If the earth is flat, why don't essentially all FE videos portray 2D rather than 3D? After all, there is nothing that is flat... certainly not the earth.

You didn't even bother to click on the link, it's a flat earth conference mockery video you absolute putz! This is the second time that video has been spammed, the fucking user even created an account just to spam it!

https://i.imgur.com/VjJN6Cs.jpg

Authentic flat earth video:

   Lack of Earth's Curvature - 37 Scientific Experiments (2018) -- https://youtu.be/qUfilDNrDyQ
   

You mean you admit that you use GoPro CGI?


And you know that I didn't click on some link, how? Are you tracking my Internet IP address?

Besides, what I said doesn't have anything to do with the video necessarily. I merely point out a fact.


Look. Why don't you make life easier on yourself. Simply change your handle to notflatman.

 

[Real_Person]

Earth - The Blue Marble


https://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/0/565/BlueMarble.jpg


Marbles are not flat.  

[notbatman]

^^^

[BADecker]

^^^ Your chair at the FE conference?     

[odolvlobo]

Well, I have returned from my trip to Antarctica ...

I took this picture off the coast of Antarctica at 1:30 am, facing south. The sun set a couple of hours before in the south and it rose in the south a couple hours later.

I would be interested in knowing how the flat earth model explains this. According to my understanding of the flat earth model, the sun should be on the other side of the north pole right now, and not south of me. In fact, it should never be south of me if it is circling the Earth 3000 miles above the Tropic of Capricorn.

https://i.imgur.com/jwal1dY.png

[notbatman]

^^^ The firmament's concave mirror reflects the light and it wraps around.

[odolvlobo]

^^^ The firmament's concave mirror reflects the light and it wraps around.

That doesn't seem right. At noon, I could see the sun in the north as expected, but then as the day went on, it started heading around to the west and south. At what point did it become a reflection of itself, and why didn't perspective and refraction cause it to appear to set in the north like you would expect?

Do you have a diagram to show how the light "wraps around" the firmament's concave mirror? Your images don't show that effect. I don't see how it is possible.

[notbatman]

^^^ You wanted an answer, you got one. The provided images while not exactly what I was looking for give some idea of what's going on.

I'm not wasting a massive amount of time producing or searching for illustrations and photos of an effect where agents have burnt a lot of time manually removing said images. I'll just take my chips to the cashier k thx.

The question at hand is whether the surface of earth curves or not, this is irregardless of what the lights in the sky are doing. Pointing at the lights in the sky is a distraction technique. The image you provided indicates that the earth is flat for as far as that camera can see.

[odolvlobo]

^^^ You wanted an answer, you got one. The provided images while not exactly what I was looking for give some idea of what's going on.

I'm not wasting a massive amount of time producing or searching for illustrations and photos of an effect where agents have burnt a lot of time manually removing said images. I'll just take my chips to the cashier k thx.

The question at hand is whether the surface of earth curves or not, this is irregardless of what the lights in the sky are doing. Pointing at the lights in the sky is a distraction technique. The image you provided indicates that the earth is flat for as far as that camera can see.

You didn't really provide an answer. You provided some speculation. You claim that the firmament's concave mirror reflects the light and it wraps around, but you don't really know how that could even work. So, you are really just providing a guess and calling it an answer.

I can accept that you don't have the ability to explain how some things work, but honestly I think that "I don't know" would go a lot further than providing some dubious and unsupported claim. You say that you don't want to waste time supporting your claim, but what about the time I waste trying to understand it? If you don't want anybody to waste their time, I suggest that you don't make claims that you are not willing to support.

[BADecker]

^^^ He's just trying to keep the thread alive to see how big he can grow it. He knows the earth isn't flat.

[notbatman]

@odolvlobo you can see the wrap-around lighting effect in the bottom of a coffee mug FFS. You want to speculate that the surface of the earth curves based on observations of lights in the sky, yet when I speculate on those same lights you start calling the kettle black.

I can see all the search engines had agents put time into manually removing search results to the images I want to post, this being the case the somewhat weak images I did find will have to suffice. I think they're rather informative IMO.

The light sources in the sky are speculative in nature and any conclusions derived thereof must also follow. You're distracting and diverting from the fact that the earth is observably and measurably flat for as far as a modern super-zoom camera can see.

me: "the earth is observably and measurably flat and motionless!"
you: "hold my beer!"

[odolvlobo]

@odolvlobo you can see the wrap-around lighting effect in the bottom of a coffee mug FFS.

I can see a lighting effect but it is not the observed lighting effect, especially if the light is inside the mug.

You want to speculate that the surface of the earth curves based on observations of lights in the sky, yet when I speculate on those same lights you start calling the kettle black.

Not true. I simply asked how the observation is explained on a flat earth. I made no assertions about a curved earth, though I don't deny my bias.

The light sources in the sky are speculative in nature and any conclusions derived thereof must also follow.

That's a very reasonable reply.

... the fact that the earth is observably and measurably flat for as far as a modern super-zoom camera can see.

That is open to debate because the same camera seems to show examples of flat earth (objects seen above the horizon) and spherical earth (objects obscured by the horizon).