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August 01, 2019, 06:54:47 PM
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It's not ridiculous. Our funny farms are too full of people who live off government funding already. We are simply trying to keep more people out of the funny farms, to hopefully reduce taxes.

In notbatman's case, he's an avowed non-Christian. We need to do all we can to save him. I mean, nobody really wants a child to go to Hell, right?

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August 01, 2019, 07:32:23 PM
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Let there be light. And there was light.

Some got blind in the process. Mentally.
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August 01, 2019, 09:12:52 PM
Last edit: August 01, 2019, 09:54:10 PM by sirazimuth
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^Cue batty's response...

"that's all fake, just like the ISS and the moon landings...now go rope yourself"...

in 3...2....

^^^ Go rope yourself you cunt,.....

almost on cue....

^^^ What the fuck are you even talking about? Go find a length of rope or a gas oven!

predicting what batty will post next is like predicting the sun is gonna come up in morning...

I can't belive this topic got 1 million views. That's a lot even for the biggest forums on internet. And thats funny because the topic of discussion is redicilous.

Oh ffs.... At least use spell check on your virgin post. Else I belive  you end up looking more redicilous than batty.
(unless that was intentional...in which case...nm.)


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August 02, 2019, 12:01:52 AM
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How to explain the earth is not flat without going to space?

1)See the sunset near a skyscraper, climb up and see it again.
Hell, just seat on a beach laying on your belly and as the sun disappears behind the horizon line, stand up fast and see it again.

2) Notice the different sky on the North and South hemisphere. (How? check out the constellations)

3) Observe the ships from sea level

4)Understand the mechanics of maps

5)Take a telescope target it to any planet, observe that they are all spheroids

6)Study Geometrical Geodesy

7)Buy a GPS

No mal intent, probably all those are already mentioned in the thousands of posts.. I'll go to find a rope or something now :PP

  
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August 02, 2019, 12:53:44 AM
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How to explain the earth is not flat without going to space?

1)See the sunset near a skyscraper, climb up and see it again.
Hell, just seat on a beach laying on your belly and as the sun disappears behind the horizon line, stand up fast and see it again.

2) Notice the different sky on the North and South hemisphere. (How? check out the constellations)

3) Observe the ships from sea level

4)Understand the mechanics of maps

5)Take a telescope target it to any planet, observe that they are all spheroids

6)Study Geometrical Geodesy

7)Buy a GPS

No mal intent, probably all those are already mentioned in the thousands of posts.. I'll go to find a rope or something now :PP

  

1. You've just changed your angle of attack increasing the apparent size of the object being viewed thus bringing it back within the angular resolution limit of the eye.

2. From your perspective on the ground you can only see a small section of the sky.

3. Ships dispersal from view due to atmospheric refraction and the angular resolution limit of the eye.

4. Maps all use projections.

5. Observation of planets shows them to be twinkling points of light not spheres.

6. WGS84 is based on unpublished data from the Apollo program.

7. GPS uses triangulation from cellphone towers.

8. Make sure the rope is long enough that the fall snaps your neck or you'll just choke to death.
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August 02, 2019, 01:03:55 AM
Last edit: August 02, 2019, 10:03:52 PM by Filos
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1. You've just changed your angle of attack increasing the apparent size of the object being viewed thus bringing it back within the angular resolution limit of the eye.

2. From your perspective on the ground you can only see a small section of the sky.

3. Ships dispersal from view due to atmospheric refraction and the angular resolution limit of the eye.

4. Maps all use projections.

5. Observation of planets shows them to be twinkling points of light not spheres.

6. WGS84 is based on unpublished data from the Apollo program.

7. GPS uses triangulation from cellphone towers.

8. Make sure the rope is long enough that the fall snaps your neck or you'll just choke to death.

8 ) Thanks for the tip

7 )No your phone's GPS might. Professional GPS can have signal in no cellphone signal zones. (used in topography)

6 )There are vast topographic networks used every day by professionals based on Geodesical rules

5 ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOlVtC-1q8I  NOT spheres, spheroids...

4 )Yes, Projections of what? the curved surface on paper

3 )Nope, use a telescope. Same effect. refraction isn't as strong all the time. There are prerequisites..

2 )Ofc. But as much as you try, you can't see southern hemisphere constellations in the northern hemisphere and vice versa

1 )also nope. Edit: If an angle was the only thing you changed, you wouldn't be able to see the sun again...
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August 02, 2019, 01:31:31 AM
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^^^ Just saying "nope" is proof you're a fucking retard or a liar. As for the "real" GPS it's a network of high altitude balloons.

You're just full of shit mate.
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August 02, 2019, 01:36:08 AM
Last edit: August 02, 2019, 01:49:24 AM by Filos
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lol. OK

btw I edited that. You are right. I should explain it in the first place

Also all these lies as you say... are part of my job... so.. yeah

That's a pity I was expecting a harder fight. Wink
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August 02, 2019, 04:21:12 AM
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^^^ All you've done is proven my point about collectivist retards abusing the use of emojis.

Changing the angle of attack (eye height) increases the apparent size of viewed objects, if an object is far enough away and has gone past the angular resolution limit of the eye, increasing the angle will enlarge it enough to be seen again.

You're the pigeon knocking the chess pieces off the board and strutting around like you've won the game. It really isn't possible to win an argument with a filthy animal like yourself, you will never concede to a point no matter what.


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August 02, 2019, 04:35:15 AM
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Keep cursing at me mate. Smiley feels good

Eye Height is not an angle... lol

Nice, standing on the only thing you can barely understand.. cheers

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August 02, 2019, 04:45:30 AM
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Right. Eye height doesn't have anything to do with how far the eye can see. With a telescope the eye can see much farther no matter the height. The point is the clarity of what is being seen as it goes over the horizon.

We have all kinds of pictures of stuff going over the horizon. My thought is that people who take pictures of ships going over the horizon generally don't CGI their pictures. This has been going on for years where people have been watching and photographing things going over the horizon.

Now we have FE people all of a sudden talking about CGI, and bringing in pictures that show that there isn't any horizon to go over... that horizon means something else that's different than what we have seen for several hundred years.

So, it is my judgment that the CGI stuff is being done by the FE people, since nobody else sees what they see.

It's like they (FE people) were preparing for war, but nobody else (GE people) got ready, because nobody else knew they were preparing for war. Then they dump the war on us, and it's taking us a while to even realize that they are serious.

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August 02, 2019, 06:46:19 AM
Last edit: August 02, 2019, 07:23:17 AM by notbatman
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Filos is so stupid and BADecker so intellectually dishonest, it hurts.





I can only imagine the horrific pain Filos experiences when viewing the above image. The concept that the vanishing point, his eye height and the ground could actually form a triangle must be tearing him apart inside...

Imagine the poor SOB in a tunnel so long that he couldn't see the light at the end, he'd start balling up.
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August 02, 2019, 11:56:21 AM
Last edit: August 02, 2019, 02:48:17 PM by Filos
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So let me get this straight. You would expect to see the curvature in a picture like that? loool

Do you even understand the scale? (top tip scale is not an angle xDDD ) or Perspective of projection? (google that, since you didn't catch it at school).

Do you even comprehend that they have to include the curvature in the equations to build a bridge like that?
Darn, this is like stealing candy from a toddler.

Anyone can research everything i posted.

I wouldn't expect to persuade a flathead... I wish you the best man.

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August 02, 2019, 12:21:21 PM
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I wouldn't expect to persuade a flathead


You can't really, batty is a brilliant example. Grin

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August 02, 2019, 08:21:28 PM
Last edit: August 03, 2019, 07:26:05 PM by sirazimuth
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 is theory is really confusing because in my school days I will think only the Earth is round and sphere in shape but right now this theory is really giving me the doubt about how education is which is right

Say what??  You're actually telling me that you're confused because some obsessive trolling FE buffoon has a retarded 4 year thread on bitcointalk claiming the earth is a pancake?
You might need to get out more.

So how's that post count/merit harvesting working out for you?

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August 03, 2019, 06:42:27 PM
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Vsause made a great video about this many years ago
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August 04, 2019, 01:03:23 AM
Last edit: August 04, 2019, 01:46:50 AM by odolvlobo
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Unfortunately, ELA is designed for JPEG images and the one you analyzed is a PNG, so I don't think any interpretation of the results is valid.

ELA highlights differences in the JPEG compression rate. ...

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August 04, 2019, 04:47:53 AM
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^^^ Do you honestly think that's a real photograph? Alarm bells should be going off looking at that...

You can see where the layer the stars are on is, the background noise highlighted by the ELA is inconsistent. I tried analyzing the full size jpeg images but they've fixed them so the analysis is useless. However the frame from the animation still has enough information to show it's a fraudulent composite image.
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August 04, 2019, 05:55:58 AM
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^^^ Do you honestly think that's a real photograph? Alarm bells should be going off looking at that...

You can see where the layer the stars are on is, the background noise highlighted by the ELA is inconsistent. I tried analyzing the full size jpeg images but they've fixed them so the analysis is useless. However the frame from the animation still has enough information to show it's a fraudulent composite image.

Real or not, you can't use ELA on that image because it is not a JPEG.

What do you mean "they've fixed them"? Are you saying that your analysis of the JPEGs shows that they have not been manipulated?

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August 04, 2019, 11:03:27 AM
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^^^ While primarily intended to highlight issues with JPEG compressed images, the ELA is still useful in highlighting issues in a .PNG format image hence the ability of the application to load that format.

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In August 2007, Dr. Neal Krawetz gave a presentation at the Black Hat Briefings computer security conference. The presentation, titled "A Picture's Worth", covered a handful of novel photo analysis algorithms. (A video of the presentation is available from iTunes, search for "Krawetz". The associated white paper and slides are available online.) Using these algorithms, researchers can determine if a picture is real or computer graphics, if it was modified, and even how it was modified. Dr. Krawetz gave variations of this presentation at different conferences between 2007 and 2010.
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Source: http://fotoforensics.com/faq.php

Here's the white paper: https://blackhat.com/presentations/bh-dc-08/Krawetz/Whitepaper/bh-dc-08-krawetz-WP.pdf | archive.org

Here's more from the tutorial:

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Look around the picture and identify the different high-contrast edges, low-contrast edges, surfaces, and textures. Compare those areas with the ELA results. If there are significant differences, then it identifies suspicious areas that may have been digitally altered.
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Source: http://fotoforensics.com/tutorial-ela.php

In this case the ELA highlights the inconstant background noise behind the stars and other issues.

While my use of the fotoforensics software and analysis of the NASA provided image thereof is far from conclusive, there's a preponderance of evidence of fraud with NASA and their claims. This being the case the chances that the provided image is authentic approaches zero.

What I mean by "fixed them" is they've anticipated my use of fotoforensics and modified the images accordingly so as not to highlight any inconsistencies. What they didn't anticipate is me pulling a frame from their little video.
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