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October 10, 2015, 07:02:37 PM
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Two of then are JVC recorders (seriously), one is a 200 digital zoom CCTV camera and the third getting very close to what you see with the Nikon Coolpix P900 which he claims is the best available now.
There is some top quality stuff being made this days, the trusted home JVC recorder had his days.
https://youtu.be/M96sODkMeYM?t=480


What if the telescope and advanced lense manufactorers directly make lenses that hide any clue about flat earth?

Did you thought about that. I mean if they know 100% that their telescopes will be used by amateur astronomers looking at celestial bodies, then they would build their telescopes to be misleading, and not show the images correctly, especially the digital telescopes. They could hide this way the flat earth, and any clues that would lead towards it.

Whats your opinion on that?
The evidence supporting a flat, stationary world is overwhelming and growing daily. Go pro sponsored just about ever thing taking a camera to high attitude, but the fish eye lens had its days too.

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If Earth were a spinning ball heated by a Sun 93 million miles away, it would be impossible to have simultaneously sweltering summers in Africa while just a few thousand miles away bone-chilling frozen Arctic/Antarctic winters experiencing little to no heat from the Sun whatsoever. If the heat from the Sun traveled 93,000,000 miles to the Sahara desert, it is absurd to assert that another 4,000 miles (0.00004%) further to Antarctica would completely negate such sweltering heat resulting in such drastic differences. 

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October 10, 2015, 07:05:18 PM
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The evidence supporting a flat, stationary world is overwhelming and growing daily. Go pro sponsored just about ever thing taking a camera to high attitude, but the fish eye lens had its days too.

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If Earth were a spinning ball heated by a Sun 93 million miles away, it would be impossible to have simultaneously sweltering summers in Africa while just a few thousand miles away bone-chilling frozen Arctic/Antarctic winters experiencing little to no heat from the Sun whatsoever. If the heat from the Sun traveled 93,000,000 miles to the Sahara desert, it is absurd to assert that another 4,000 miles (0.00004%) further to Antarctica would completely negate such sweltering heat resulting in such drastic differences. 
Not quite. If you consider it as the rays of the sun hitting the Earth directly, a spherical mass would receive a more concentrated amount of heat in the middle, rather than the northern and southern areas.

Besides, how exactly does the heat prove a flat world? If that was the case, would the heat not be the same all-round?

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October 10, 2015, 07:20:40 PM
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The evidence supporting a flat, stationary world is overwhelming and growing daily. Go pro sponsored just about ever thing taking a camera to high attitude, but the fish eye lens had its days too.

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If Earth were a spinning ball heated by a Sun 93 million miles away, it would be impossible to have simultaneously sweltering summers in Africa while just a few thousand miles away bone-chilling frozen Arctic/Antarctic winters experiencing little to no heat from the Sun whatsoever. If the heat from the Sun traveled 93,000,000 miles to the Sahara desert, it is absurd to assert that another 4,000 miles (0.00004%) further to Antarctica would completely negate such sweltering heat resulting in such drastic differences. 

Yea but the seasons are explanined as the earth is on an elliptical orbit around the sun, and the earth is tilted 23 degrees on the vertical axis.

But this is also faulty, because if the axis is tilted, then because its is not wobbling, i guess there would be permanent summer on the southern hemisphere.

Also due to this, the heat on the southern hemisphere would be much higher than it is on the northern, which is not true, here is a heat map where I marked the equator with a green line.






You can see that its not just that the southern hemisphere doesnt have permawinter (probably a lot of australians know how cold winters are sometimes), but its average temperature exactly where the tilt is, is actually lower than it is where its farther from the sun.

South Africa would get direct 90 degree sun rays directly,and the temperature there has to be like 70 degrees celsius in the summer for this theory to work, so it is crap really.

So I guess the 23 degree tilt theory is a big pile of donkey crap, it doesnt make sense.

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October 10, 2015, 07:38:56 PM
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Newton theorized and it is now commonly taught that the Earth’s ocean tides are caused by gravitational lunar attraction. If the Moon is only 2,160 miles in diameter and the Earth 8,000 miles, however, using their own math and “law,” it follows that the Earth is 87 times more massive and therefore the larger object should attract the smaller to it, and not the other way around. If the Earth’s greater gravity is what keeps the Moon in orbit, it is impossible for the Moon’s lesser gravity to supersede the Earth’s gravity, especially at Earth’s sea-level, where its gravitational attraction would even further out-trump the Moon’s. And if the Moon’s gravity truly did supersede the Earth’s causing the tides to be drawn towards it, there should be nothing to stop them from continuing onwards and upwards towards their great attractor.


Oh, and what causes the tides on the other side of the "globe" which are there but not as strong as the side facing the moon.

Lets face it, its all bonkers.

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October 10, 2015, 07:47:45 PM
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Newton theorized and it is now commonly taught that the Earth’s ocean tides are caused by gravitational lunar attraction. If the Moon is only 2,160 miles in diameter and the Earth 8,000 miles, however, using their own math and “law,” it follows that the Earth is 87 times more massive and therefore the larger object should attract the smaller to it, and not the other way around. If the Earth’s greater gravity is what keeps the Moon in orbit, it is impossible for the Moon’s lesser gravity to supersede the Earth’s gravity, especially at Earth’s sea-level, where its gravitational attraction would even further out-trump the Moon’s. And if the Moon’s gravity truly did supersede the Earth’s causing the tides to be drawn towards it, there should be nothing to stop them from continuing onwards and upwards towards their great attractor.


Oh, and what causes the tides on the other side of the "globe" which are there but not as strong as the side facing the moon.

Lets face it, its all bonkers.

Essentially, you're letting us have the burden of proof to disprove the flat earth principle. I'll offer the same fallacy, then.

What do you think causes the Earth's tides?

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October 10, 2015, 07:55:01 PM
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If you're a fan of the idea that our flat Earth has a firmament (dome) that's surrounded by water above and water below then you'll enjoy this video.

The Flat Earth Is THE YELLOW SUBMARINE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbgGKCRF5X8



Do we all live in a yellow submarine?

♫ And our friends are all on board
♫ Many more of them live next door

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October 10, 2015, 08:27:36 PM
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LOL at the likes/dislikes radio of thing in your sig

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFwUkH8Rpi8)

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October 10, 2015, 08:34:04 PM
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October 11, 2015, 02:44:35 PM
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A century ago W.M. Carpenter published a book called One Hundred Proofs that the Earth is Not a Globe.

Today we have YouTube and a playlist with two hundred videos proving that the Earth is not a globe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6vJ0qi2dfs&list=PL9bIz6Hi9BApGWAdq5uR6F7dhqn2-d0nN&index=1
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October 11, 2015, 03:58:06 PM
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Newton theorized and it is now commonly taught that the Earth’s ocean tides are caused by gravitational lunar attraction. If the Moon is only 2,160 miles in diameter and the Earth 8,000 miles, however, using their own math and “law,” it follows that the Earth is 87 times more massive and therefore the larger object should attract the smaller to it, and not the other way around. If the Earth’s greater gravity is what keeps the Moon in orbit, it is impossible for the Moon’s lesser gravity to supersede the Earth’s gravity, especially at Earth’s sea-level, where its gravitational attraction would even further out-trump the Moon’s. And if the Moon’s gravity truly did supersede the Earth’s causing the tides to be drawn towards it, there should be nothing to stop them from continuing onwards and upwards towards their great attractor.


Oh, and what causes the tides on the other side of the "globe" which are there but not as strong as the side facing the moon.

Lets face it, its all bonkers.

The Earth *does* exert more gravitational pull, hence why the Moon is in orbit around the Earth, and why the oceans stay on earth rather than flying towards the Moon or something.  While the oceans don't fly towards the moon, the moon's gravitational pull *does* attract the oceans towards it as it orbits around the Earth.  This creates a little bulge in the ocean that we call the tide.  Why is the bulge small?  As you pointed out, the Earth is far more massive.
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October 11, 2015, 04:01:19 PM
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Newton theorized and it is now commonly taught that the Earth’s ocean tides are caused by gravitational lunar attraction. If the Moon is only 2,160 miles in diameter and the Earth 8,000 miles, however, using their own math and “law,” it follows that the Earth is 87 times more massive and therefore the larger object should attract the smaller to it, and not the other way around. If the Earth’s greater gravity is what keeps the Moon in orbit, it is impossible for the Moon’s lesser gravity to supersede the Earth’s gravity, especially at Earth’s sea-level, where its gravitational attraction would even further out-trump the Moon’s. And if the Moon’s gravity truly did supersede the Earth’s causing the tides to be drawn towards it, there should be nothing to stop them from continuing onwards and upwards towards their great attractor.


Oh, and what causes the tides on the other side of the "globe" which are there but not as strong as the side facing the moon.

Lets face it, its all bonkers.

The Earth *does* exert more gravitational pull, hence why the Moon is in orbit around the Earth, and why the oceans stay on earth rather than flying towards the Moon or something.  While the oceans don't fly towards the moon, the moon's gravitational pull *does* attract the oceans towards it as it orbits around the Earth.  This creates a little bulge in the ocean that we call the tide.  Why is the bulge small?  As you pointed out, the Earth is far more massive.
Let's also not forget about the fact that both of them spin and that also has an impact on the tides.

Coriolis effect also has consequences on the air.
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October 11, 2015, 05:52:44 PM
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The idea that people are standing, ships are sailing and planes are flying upside down on certain parts of Earth while others tilted at 90 degrees and all other impossible angles is complete absurdity. The idea that a man digging a hole straight down could eventually reach sky on the other side is ludicrous.
Common sense tells every free-thinking person correctly that there truly is an “up” and “down” in nature, unlike the “everything is relative” rhetoric of the Newtonian/Einsteinian paradigm




Quoting, “On the False Wisdom of the Philosophers” by Lacantius, “A sphere where people on the other side live with their feet above their heads, where rain, snow and hail fall upwards, where trees and crops grow upside-down and the sky is lower than the ground? The ancient wonder of the hanging gardens of Babylon dwindle into nothing in comparison to the fields, seas, towns and mountains that pagan philosophers believe to be hanging from the earth without support!”



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.msg12645979#msg12645979

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October 11, 2015, 09:21:46 PM
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Lol, at digging your way to heaven.
so what happens if we dig down?

do you think the sun is a sphere or flat as well
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October 11, 2015, 10:39:24 PM
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Lol, at digging your way to heaven.
so what happens if we dig down?

do you think the sun is a sphere or flat as well

a) If we dig down I suspect that we eventually get to the firmament.

b) I think that the Sun is a slightly concave disk, perhaps a projection on the firmament dome.

It seems "they" prefer to twist the truth rather then straight out lie. If any of this is correct then our plane(t) if you include the firmament is a giant under water/ice golden globe with a flat area of separation between the air above and the land and sea below. As the song goes "we all live in a yellow submarine".
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October 11, 2015, 10:39:34 PM
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Lol, at digging your way to heaven.
so what happens if we dig down?

do you think the sun is a sphere or flat as well

Yes I ask this question too, so we got 3000 miles up in the sky, but how much can we dig below before we hit the lower firmament?

I found this video about the bottom firmament:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEVW_9EVjFE

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October 11, 2015, 11:25:07 PM
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I do not believe that the Earth is flat. That is my opinion and I will stick with that.

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October 11, 2015, 11:38:50 PM
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This thread needs to die.
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October 12, 2015, 12:45:40 AM
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I do not believe that the Earth is flat. That is my opinion and I will stick with that.

"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it." -- Neil deGrasse Tyson
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October 12, 2015, 01:06:34 AM
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I do not believe that the Earth is flat. That is my opinion and I will stick with that.

"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it." -- Neil deGrasse Tyson
So what is your opinion on the Earth's shape?

Flat-shaped, disc-shaped, or spherical (almost)?
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October 12, 2015, 01:23:44 AM
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I do not believe that the Earth is flat. That is my opinion and I will stick with that.

"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it." -- Neil deGrasse Tyson
So what is your opinion on the Earth's shape?

Flat-shaped, disc-shaped, or spherical (almost)?


The surface we live on looks flat to me.
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