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June 08, 2018, 09:02:20 PM
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D5000 I respect what you say your usually 100 pct spot on with your insight all I'm saying though is having no marketing and neglecting the website too the point we're it's absolute could have and should have been avoided I have no doubt peercoin will make it back too being a top 25 coin but these other things I've mentioned should not be being neglected for such an extended period of time

The problem I see if we enter a hype campaign now is that people will criticize the old points - "naive" proof of stake algorithm, old code, centralized checkpoints. If you follow the discussion about the viability of proof of stake (nothing at stake problem etc.), Peercoin's current protocol is probably simply not secure for the long term because the PoS participation is too low. And people will criticize that. So we could achieve a short pump but nothing more.

Thus my opinion is - be patient, prioritize development for now, above all of the cold-minting feature which could make the centralized checkpoints obsolete as it will expand and stabilize the validator set, and stay in contact with current proof of stake research adopting the best and relevant improvements. So the critics will have one point less. And, of course, continue with PeerAssets.

Now to marketing: What exactly do you want to change? I believe, for example, that the website isn't bad, it is well branded and looks pretty good (better than the Bitcoin website, and also better than these "generic" sites of other top altcoins like Ripple or NEM which look like a simple Wordpress theme), maybe it could have some more infographics and a slight refresh of visuals but imo it really needs nothing more. There is a Peercoin blog on Medium, Twitter accounts etc. What would you add? This is a serious question, there is always space to improve.

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June 08, 2018, 09:17:26 PM
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new investors too peercoin most likely first contact with peercoin most likely comes from the website that's were the meet and greet takes place there should be easy too understand and access  information about peercoin on the website the new user should see what sets peercoin apart from other crypto particular bitcoin since everyone going too peercoin website will already be familiar with bitcoin the website should drive home peercoins best features updated videos about peercoin.  and what is coming in the future for peercoin and it wouldn't hurt if the website looked nice probably in some green tones since peercoin. Is not using the vast amounts of electricity that bit coin is new users new investors new peercoin adopters are the most important asset for peercoin too be successful and it all starts with first contact on the website I can not emphasize strongly. Enough how important the website is while you can't judge a book by its cover you can induce people too read  first pages by it and if it's worth reading they'll continue too
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June 09, 2018, 10:15:44 PM
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Making great headway on the first #PeerAssets API. https://github.com/PeerAssets/papi
Now it's time to con
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June 09, 2018, 10:25:09 PM
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Hello, team
 It's really interesting project.
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June 09, 2018, 10:32:49 PM
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Making great headway on the first #PeerAssets API. https://github.com/PeerAssets/papi
Now it's time to continue tests with integrating it into the PeerAssets web wallet. Testers needed Smiley
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June 09, 2018, 10:40:28 PM
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Greetings guys! surprising trading fees.
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June 10, 2018, 12:40:17 AM
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Peercoin should have gone with ppc man plan 2-0 the status quo is why peercoin in 4year bear market
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June 10, 2018, 07:08:58 AM
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The current hold up on the website is because I am writing a full description of Peercoin. It starts from the very beginning, the distributed public ledger, what a blockchain is, its main purpose and benefits, PoW vs PoS, Peercoin's development philosophy, our specific mechanics and economics, such as the hybrid protocol, destruction of transaction fees, etc... It is basically a guide from start to finish that fully details the main points of Peercoin, something we lack right now on the current website. This content takes a long time to form. Once it's done it will need to be reviewed and edited by the team and then we will have graphics created to visualize different parts of the text to make it easier to understand.


it wouldn't hurt if the website looked nice probably in some green tones

This is what it will look like. More green will be used in the design and much less gray.
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June 11, 2018, 07:46:43 PM
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Ppc lost 85 percent of its value in 6 months but peercoin team thinks there doing great job and are totally inflexible on any changes they should have implemented the miner tax what a bunch of clowns
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June 11, 2018, 11:14:16 PM
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new investors too peercoin most likely first contact with peercoin most likely comes from the website that's were the meet and greet takes place there should be easy too understand and access  information about peercoin on the website
Well, there is https://peercoin.net/newcomers. However, what seems to be lacking - and here you're totally right - is a short description of Proof of Stake, which is the main "selling point" or thing Peercoin does different than Bitcoin. The "Minting" item talks a bit about it, but I would call it "Proof of Stake" instead.

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and what is coming in the future for peercoin and it wouldn't hurt if the website looked nice probably in some green tones
I see lots of green on the website ... I like the black/green design, looks very clean, and distinct from typical "altcoin" pages. It is also well-branded with the leaf as protagonist.

A bit of a "roadmap" would be nice, though.

@Paul33: We are in a general crypto bear market, if you haven't noticed it. With a "miner tax" or another centralizing mechanism, I'm sure PPC would be at position 333 or so as all those old PPC veterans/hodlers would sell instantly Wink


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June 13, 2018, 07:33:15 PM
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When Bitcoin and all other cryptos enter another bull market, does the Peercoin team get all the credit and any ideas that were passed up suddenly become trash?  Some people can't see past the end of their nose.
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June 23, 2018, 02:52:25 AM
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If the peercoin team wasn’t so stubborn and only interested in there own ideas
Please explain what this even means. It has already been explained that we have funding for everything we need right now. More funding is not going to help us. Right now we just need time in order to properly make use of our current funding. We are working on that.

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it’s time for a new ideas peercoin 2.0
Anyone is welcome to start their own fork, but good luck finding someone to run and code for it. I can guarantee not a single person from the current team is interested in helping with that and it takes a lot of knowledgeable and experienced people to maintain.

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All peercoin had too do was redo the websiite and implement the 5 pct of mined coins go too devolpmemt and present plan too the community as too how those funds might be used and peercoin would be 10x the price it is how can you not be in favour of that

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June 23, 2018, 02:57:13 AM
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I agree should implement  5 percent miner tax the miners would make way more with much higher peercoin price you can’t market a coin with out a steady revenue source any one who’s not in favour of this doesn’t want a higher peercoin price there trying too keep the peercoin price artificially low
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June 23, 2018, 04:51:23 AM
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and implement the 5 pct of mined coins go too devolpmemt
I just got done saying that we don't need anymore money right now. What we currently have is already enough for what we need to use it for. More money for core development is not going to make things happen faster, so why would that spike the price? You need to understand that and allow time for the foundation to make use of the funds it already has available. I mean the Foundation has only been operational for about a month now and we've already given you a partnership with StakeBox and integration with Ledger Nano S. Things aren't going to happen instantly, so have some patience.

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The market doesn’t like that peercoin has no marketing why don’t you get it that peercoin was 100 too the bitcoin in 2014 now it’s over 4000 too the bitcoin marketing and a warchest for devolpmemt along with an upgraded website would certainly send the price sky rocketing continue on the course your on and the decline will continue I don’t get it what’s the big deal 5 pct miner tax with well defined marketing plan for the use of funds would please everyone the last time this was being discussed certain people sabotaged the conversation with a bunch of non sense it’s a no brainer too redo the website and implement miner tax the issue people had was how will the funds be used present well thought out plan too the community and most people are certanily in favour of it

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June 24, 2018, 01:16:09 AM
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Peercoin has clear internal incentives to keep miners reliably producing ore blocks.They also have a wide range of communities that constantly maintain and improve their networks.
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July 03, 2018, 04:57:53 AM
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Slowly realizing that Peercoin is better than Bitcoin
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I know bitcoin has a cult like following, but to those of you who are open to new ideas, Peercoin (now) is like Bitcoin was in 2011. I would suggest everyone to Hedge yourself accordingly - it may be in your best interest to diversify away from bitcoin and start mining some.

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July 03, 2018, 05:03:04 AM
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In Jan 2014 peercoin was 7 dollars and. Bitcoin was 900 the peercoin team has no sense of urgency about anything and they just don’t get it peercoin is,one of the largest under performing coins the last 4years and it will continue too underperform until some one takes over the devolpmemt team who knows how to get things done and is creative instead of wasting time on meaningless discussions about what too do the time for action is now peercoin should be a top coin but it’s not just look at peercoin discord channel a bunch of nonsense talk instead of community getting together too stop peercoin endless decline into the abyss
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July 03, 2018, 04:52:28 PM
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In Jan 2014 peercoin was 7 dollars and. Bitcoin was 900 the peercoin team has no sense of urgency about anything and they just don’t get it peercoin is,one of the largest under performing coins the last 4years
You are the one that doesn't "get it". Your "proposals" are basically to transform Peercoin into a typical Pump-and-dump sh!tcoin, where a website is more important than technology, and the short term is generally prioritized over the long term.

Again: Peercoin had almost three years almost without any development. Since one year things are becoming better. Peercoin, unfortunately, got "under the radar" a bit. I believe that to be not only caused by the long development hiatus, but also to the checkpoints issue - Peercoin was regarded as a coin that "didn't work without centralization". Now 0.6 has changed that, but it takes time for this to become valued by the community.

And I don't believe there is any "urgency", although 0.7 should get finished in 2018, so the new features are ready for the time a new bull market begins.

If one of the devs is here: Is there any possibility to add TaPoS to Peercoin? It could improve "fork resolution" greatly. (I'll propose that in the Peercoin forum if there is no reaction here.)

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July 03, 2018, 05:41:15 PM
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If you had 1000 BTC in Jan 2014 and you traded it for 100 000 PPC you can't be happy right now,while I don't agree with a lot of what Paul 33 said I do agree with his need for action now a sense of urgency is lacking with peercoin I know of no other coin with such a cavleer attitude  peercoin can be a great coin again but not with out renewed energy
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July 03, 2018, 11:36:39 PM
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If you had 1000 BTC in Jan 2014 and you traded it for 100 000 PPC you can't be happy right now,while I don't agree with a lot of what Paul 33 said I do agree with his need for action now a sense of urgency is lacking with peercoin I know of no other coin with such a cavleer attitude  peercoin can be a great coin again but not with out renewed energy
But most of the losses occurred between 2014 and 2017, which was the time of the "hiatus".

If you look at the Coinmarketcap chart (select "ALL" if it isn't selected already) you'll see that in late 2016 the current price in Bitcoin (~0.00024 BTC) had already been reached - with a far lower price in dollars (about 0.25-0.30 USD).

This was the "all time low". Since then, the Peercoin price has stabilized (measured in BTC), with some spikes while the "crypto bubble" in mid 2017 to early 2018 lasted.

The "problem" is that ICO-financed "tokens" ruled the market in the last year, and there was less investment and less attention for smaller blockchain projects like Peercoin (with some notable exceptions like McAfee's "Verge").

I'm sure that 0.7 will be the start for a new PPC bull market, and when the switch to modern code is completed (I just read in the forum that there are already tests with BTC 0.16 code) then I don't see why Peercoin shouldn't return into the top-100. It can even return into the top-20 or top-30 if the development takes into account modern achievements in Proof of Stake research and isn't following the "Not-Invented-Here syndrome".
 


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