[ANN] [PPC] PPCoin Released! - First Long-Term Energy-Efficient Crypto-Currency

[d5000]

new investors too peercoin most likely first contact with peercoin most likely comes from the website that's were the meet and greet takes place there should be easy too understand and access  information about peercoin on the website

Well, there is https://peercoin.net/newcomers. However, what seems to be lacking - and here you're totally right - is a short description of Proof of Stake, which is the main "selling point" or thing Peercoin does different than Bitcoin. The "Minting" item talks a bit about it, but I would call it "Proof of Stake" instead.

and what is coming in the future for peercoin and it wouldn't hurt if the website looked nice probably in some green tones

I see lots of green on the website ... I like the black/green design, looks very clean, and distinct from typical "altcoin" pages. It is also well-branded with the leaf as protagonist.

A bit of a "roadmap" would be nice, though.

@Paul33: We are in a general crypto bear market, if you haven't noticed it. With a "miner tax" or another centralizing mechanism, I'm sure PPC would be at position 333 or so as all those old PPC veterans/hodlers would sell instantly

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[Nagalim]

When Bitcoin and all other cryptos enter another bull market, does the Peercoin team get all the credit and any ideas that were passed up suddenly become trash?  Some people can't see past the end of their nose.

[Paul33]

If the peercoin team wasn’t so stubborn and only interested in there own ideas
Please explain what this even means. It has already been explained that we have funding for everything we need right now. More funding is not going to help us. Right now we just need time in order to properly make use of our current funding. We are working on that.

Verdell:
it’s time for a new ideas peercoin 2.0
Anyone is welcome to start their own fork, but good luck finding someone to run and code for it. I can guarantee not a single person from the current team is interested in helping with that and it takes a lot of knowledgeable and experienced people to maintain.

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Verdell11m
All peercoin had too do was redo the websiite and implement the 5 pct of mined coins go too devolpmemt and present plan too the community as too how those funds might be used and peercoin would be 10x the price it is how can you not be in favour of that

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[Paul33]

I agree should implement  5 percent miner tax the miners would make way more with much higher peercoin price you can’t market a coin with out a steady revenue source any one who’s not in favour of this doesn’t want a higher peercoin price there trying too keep the peercoin price artificially low

[Paul33]

and implement the 5 pct of mined coins go too devolpmemt
I just got done saying that we don't need anymore money right now. What we currently have is already enough for what we need to use it for. More money for core development is not going to make things happen faster, so why would that spike the price? You need to understand that and allow time for the foundation to make use of the funds it already has available. I mean the Foundation has only been operational for about a month now and we've already given you a partnership with StakeBox and integration with Ledger Nano S. Things aren't going to happen instantly, so have some patience.

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NagalimIndicium Founder18m
Panacea's never work.

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Verdell2m
The market doesn’t like that peercoin has no marketing why don’t you get it that peercoin was 100 too the bitcoin in 2014 now it’s over 4000 too the bitcoin marketing and a warchest for devolpmemt along with an upgraded website would certainly send the price sky rocketing continue on the course your on and the decline will continue I don’t get it what’s the big deal 5 pct miner tax with well defined marketing plan for the use of funds would please everyone the last time this was being discussed certain people sabotaged the conversation with a bunch of non sense it’s a no brainer too redo the website and implement miner tax the issue people had was how will the funds be used present well thought out plan too the community and most people are certanily in favour of it

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[yeyz20171031]

Peercoin has clear internal incentives to keep miners reliably producing ore blocks.They also have a wide range of communities that constantly maintain and improve their networks.

[Paul33]

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I know bitcoin has a cult like following, but to those of you who are open to new ideas, Peercoin (now) is like Bitcoin was in 2011. I would suggest everyone to Hedge yourself accordingly - it may be in your best interest to diversify away from bitcoin and start mining some.

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[Paul33]

In Jan 2014 peercoin was 7 dollars and. Bitcoin was 900 the peercoin team has no sense of urgency about anything and they just don’t get it peercoin is,one of the largest under performing coins the last 4years and it will continue too underperform until some one takes over the devolpmemt team who knows how to get things done and is creative instead of wasting time on meaningless discussions about what too do the time for action is now peercoin should be a top coin but it’s not just look at peercoin discord channel a bunch of nonsense talk instead of community getting together too stop peercoin endless decline into the abyss

[d5000]

In Jan 2014 peercoin was 7 dollars and. Bitcoin was 900 the peercoin team has no sense of urgency about anything and they just don’t get it peercoin is,one of the largest under performing coins the last 4years

You are the one that doesn't "get it". Your "proposals" are basically to transform Peercoin into a typical Pump-and-dump sh!tcoin, where a website is more important than technology, and the short term is generally prioritized over the long term.

Again: Peercoin had almost three years almost without any development. Since one year things are becoming better. Peercoin, unfortunately, got "under the radar" a bit. I believe that to be not only caused by the long development hiatus, but also to the checkpoints issue - Peercoin was regarded as a coin that "didn't work without centralization". Now 0.6 has changed that, but it takes time for this to become valued by the community.

And I don't believe there is any "urgency", although 0.7 should get finished in 2018, so the new features are ready for the time a new bull market begins.

If one of the devs is here: Is there any possibility to add TaPoS to Peercoin? It could improve "fork resolution" greatly. (I'll propose that in the Peercoin forum if there is no reaction here.)

[Verdell]

If you had 1000 BTC in Jan 2014 and you traded it for 100 000 PPC you can't be happy right now,while I don't agree with a lot of what Paul 33 said I do agree with his need for action now a sense of urgency is lacking with peercoin I know of no other coin with such a cavleer attitude  peercoin can be a great coin again but not with out renewed energy

[d5000]

If you had 1000 BTC in Jan 2014 and you traded it for 100 000 PPC you can't be happy right now,while I don't agree with a lot of what Paul 33 said I do agree with his need for action now a sense of urgency is lacking with peercoin I know of no other coin with such a cavleer attitude  peercoin can be a great coin again but not with out renewed energy

But most of the losses occurred between 2014 and 2017, which was the time of the "hiatus".

If you look at the Coinmarketcap chart (select "ALL" if it isn't selected already) you'll see that in late 2016 the current price in Bitcoin (~0.00024 BTC) had already been reached - with a far lower price in dollars (about 0.25-0.30 USD).

This was the "all time low". Since then, the Peercoin price has stabilized (measured in BTC), with some spikes while the "crypto bubble" in mid 2017 to early 2018 lasted.

The "problem" is that ICO-financed "tokens" ruled the market in the last year, and there was less investment and less attention for smaller blockchain projects like Peercoin (with some notable exceptions like McAfee's "Verge").

I'm sure that 0.7 will be the start for a new PPC bull market, and when the switch to modern code is completed (I just read in the forum that there are already tests with BTC 0.16 code) then I don't see why Peercoin shouldn't return into the top-100. It can even return into the top-20 or top-30 if the development takes into account modern achievements in Proof of Stake research and isn't following the "Not-Invented-Here syndrome".
 

[Sentinelrv]

the peercoin team has no sense of urgency about anything and they just don’t get it

First of all, you have no idea what is going on behind the scenes, so you are speaking about things you don’t fully understand. Outward appearances do not indicate the current level of activity in the team.

Second, d5000 is correct. Peercoin had little development for several years. Some of you are completely underestimating the amount of time it takes to update Peercoin to where it needs to be. We are currently making great progress and the recent foundation has helped speed certain things up. We are currently in a bear market, so this is the perfect time to get important work done to be ready for when market sentiment changes again.

If one of the devs is here: Is there any possibility to add TaPoS to Peercoin? It could improve "fork resolution" greatly. (I'll propose that in the Peercoin forum if there is no reaction here.)

I don’t know if you will get an answer, but it would probably be best to ask on the forum.

and isn't following the "Not-Invented-Here syndrome".

I don’t think you have to worry about this.

[cjl1984]

Generally speaking, the price of PPCoin has a rising trend these days. I think it will probably go up in the next few days.

[d5000]

If one of the devs is here: Is there any possibility to add TaPoS to Peercoin? It could improve "fork resolution" greatly. (I'll propose that in the Peercoin forum if there is no reaction here.)

I don’t know if you will get an answer, but it would probably be best to ask on the forum.

I see. I'm already preparing my post there.

Edit: Started the thread here.

and isn't following the "Not-Invented-Here syndrome".

I don’t think you have to worry about this.

That's good to hear. The reason why I posted this is because in the past, in the Peercoin community, the Nothing at Stake problem has been described as a "myth". In my opinion it is not a myth - it is a real limitation of PoS. But in my opinion (I have read lots of blogposts, whitepapers etc. about that - e.g. Ethereum's PoS FAQ/Casper history) the problem can be made almost irrelevant. It is probably already not a big danger (as far as enough people are staking and the "staker set" is relatively stable, what cold minting should achieve), but some improvements (with TaPoS among them) could make an attack even less likely.

[Paul33]

s far as I know a few years ago it was one of the top altcoins, what happened?

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SentinelrvBrand Manager • 176d
I don’t think it’s that Peercoin is unpopular or disliked. We have a great team and innovative technology. The problem I think has always been our messaging. We have a great message, but there are a lot of aspects to it which confuses people, for example supporting micro-transactions versus the idea of Peercoin as a backbone settlement network. There is confusion in our messaging, which contributes to lack of understanding and lack of effective marketing, which leads to lack of awareness and adoption.

In our website redesign I would like to fix this by clearly communicating to people what Peercoin is. Once this is fixed and communicated clearly to people, we’ll be able to produce more effective marketing campaigns that work to attract the type of people and groups that the network is geared toward. It can even benefit from volunteer work as clearing up confusion in people’s minds will lead them to feel more confident in spreading the message about Peercoin. There will be much less hesitation.

So we recognize what the problem is. One of the major goals of the team is to fix our messaging and clearly communicate Peercoin’s vision to people.

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keemo71 • 175d
There is a vast untapped market out there in China that would embrace an energy efficient crypto currency such as Peercoin. It would be a very viable alternative to bitcoin mining as you know so why not make attempts to get listed on Asian exchanges such as Binance? They simply don't have access to Peercoin and that is a problem. Is it a cost issue?

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newbiether • 174d
I think you're right. Also, the 1% interest is a compelling feature but folks are regrettably too eager to daytrade to let their coins age.

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Peernonymous • 174d
Totally agree. The more users the better.

Regarding the energy issue: https://twitter.com/PPCEnergy

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[Paul33]

For over 176 days and still no new website and no progress on binnace

[vodyanoykiki]

For over 176 days and still no new website and no progress on binnace

So long did not appear, but that's okay. Since so many of the projects at this time, nothing released, and many of the projects only a year out only on the exchange after the launch.

[Sentinelrv]

For over 176 days and still no new website

The website has only been worked on for the past several months, not as long as you describe here. I posted a recent update on it here...

https://talk.peercoin.net/t/the-bear-market-is-really-there/7821/35

[Verdell]

Peercoin continues its 4.5 year decline into being irrelevant a forgotten coin

[Verdell]

Moving at a snails pace has made peercoin a dead irrelevant coin that no,one will care about didn't have too be that way but that's how it Is