[ANN] SpreadCoin | Decentralize Everything (decentralized blockexplorer coming)

[afroman75]

Look of the power doge had and lost it all im hoping this doesn't have the same fate as this is gaining traction just like dogecoin did

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[ocminer]

And in general, how goes the fight for true decentralization?

Not too shabby. The potential of Mr Spread’s “anti-pool” innovation has been noted, borrowed, adopted, adapted and is now obliquely traceable via  reference #34 to Ziftrcoin (*) in Andrew Miller et als' preprint paper (PDF) Nonoutsourceable Scratch-Off Puzzles to Discourage Bitcoin Mining Coalitions.

So there ya go.

Cheers

Graham

(*) Spreadcoin repos was created well before Ziftrcoin.

Actually there is a Suprnova Pool for Spreadcoin as well as Ziftrcoin

[stonehedge]

And in general, how goes the fight for true decentralization?

Not too shabby. The potential of Mr Spread’s “anti-pool” innovation has been noted, borrowed, adopted, adapted and is now obliquely traceable via  reference #34 to Ziftrcoin (*) in Andrew Miller et als' preprint paper (PDF) Nonoutsourceable Scratch-Off Puzzles to Discourage Bitcoin Mining Coalitions.

So there ya go.

Cheers

Graham

(*) Spreadcoin repos was created well before Ziftrcoin.

Actually there is a Suprnova Pool for Spreadcoin as well as Ziftrcoin

I prefer to call it "Pool Discouragement" rather than "anti-pool".

[GingerAle]

And in general, how goes the fight for true decentralization?

Not too shabby. The potential of Mr Spread’s “anti-pool” innovation has been noted, borrowed, adopted, adapted and is now obliquely traceable via  reference #34 to Ziftrcoin (*) in Andrew Miller et als' preprint paper (PDF) Nonoutsourceable Scratch-Off Puzzles to Discourage Bitcoin Mining Coalitions.

So there ya go.

Cheers

Graham

(*) Spreadcoin repos was created well before Ziftrcoin.

Actually there is a Suprnova Pool for Spreadcoin as well as Ziftrcoin

I prefer to call it "Pool Discouragement" rather than "anti-pool".

Yeah, I'm still trying to get my head around how the pool actually operates in this instance. For instance, does this pool operate using the same mechanisms detailed in the whitepaper?

[leonak]

And in general, how goes the fight for true decentralization?

Not too shabby. The potential of Mr Spread’s “anti-pool” innovation has been noted, borrowed, adopted, adapted and is now obliquely traceable via  reference #34 to Ziftrcoin (*) in Andrew Miller et als' preprint paper (PDF) Nonoutsourceable Scratch-Off Puzzles to Discourage Bitcoin Mining Coalitions.

So there ya go.

Cheers

Graham

(*) Spreadcoin repos was created well before Ziftrcoin.

Actually there is a Suprnova Pool for Spreadcoin as well as Ziftrcoin

Thankfully ocminer still supports altcoins

[stonehedge]

And in general, how goes the fight for true decentralization?

Not too shabby. The potential of Mr Spread’s “anti-pool” innovation has been noted, borrowed, adopted, adapted and is now obliquely traceable via  reference #34 to Ziftrcoin (*) in Andrew Miller et als' preprint paper (PDF) Nonoutsourceable Scratch-Off Puzzles to Discourage Bitcoin Mining Coalitions.

So there ya go.

Cheers

Graham

(*) Spreadcoin repos was created well before Ziftrcoin.

Actually there is a Suprnova Pool for Spreadcoin as well as Ziftrcoin

I prefer to call it "Pool Discouragement" rather than "anti-pool".

Yeah, I'm still trying to get my head around how the pool actually operates in this instance. For instance, does this pool operate using the same mechanisms detailed in the whitepaper?

If it did, anybody could steal the pools coins. I think OCminer has found a clever workaround though although I haven't seen the source code yet. There are a few ways to beat SpreadX11 as far as I know but none are widely used yet.

[ocminer]

And in general, how goes the fight for true decentralization?

Not too shabby. The potential of Mr Spread’s “anti-pool” innovation has been noted, borrowed, adopted, adapted and is now obliquely traceable via  reference #34 to Ziftrcoin (*) in Andrew Miller et als' preprint paper (PDF) Nonoutsourceable Scratch-Off Puzzles to Discourage Bitcoin Mining Coalitions.

So there ya go.

Cheers

Graham

(*) Spreadcoin repos was created well before Ziftrcoin.

Actually there is a Suprnova Pool for Spreadcoin as well as Ziftrcoin

I prefer to call it "Pool Discouragement" rather than "anti-pool".

Yeah, I'm still trying to get my head around how the pool actually operates in this instance. For instance, does this pool operate using the same mechanisms detailed in the whitepaper?

If it did, anybody could steal the pools coins. I think OCminer has found a clever workaround though although I haven't seen the source code yet. There are a few ways to beat SpreadX11 as far as I know but none are widely used yet.

Its basically all around encryption.

With the original implementation you'd really have to expose the private_key to the client/miner and also transmit it publicly over the (inter-)net - which is a major security issue.

What I did is I simply added (salted) https encryption to the whole datastream between pool and miner which makes it impossible to intercept.

And I added some special tweaks to catch someone if he tries to get hold of the key - I'd be able to identify the "hacker" and ban him from the pool etc..

As a last resort I can even "hold" the first block the miner mined for safety and if the miner ever "captures" a block - I'd simply ban him and take the first block which I still have "on hold" for the one he captured...

Wherever there is need.. There is a way.. Look at ETH - The folks created the DAG file (and some other things) to keep pools etc away - Suprnova has a pool

[coins101]

...Wherever there is need.. There is a way.. Look at ETH - The folks created the DAG file (and some other things) to keep pools etc away - Suprnova has a pool

Genius. 

[stonehedge]

...Wherever there is need.. There is a way.. Look at ETH - The folks created the DAG file (and some other things) to keep pools etc away - Suprnova has a pool

Genius. 

The thing that bothers me most is how inefficient the SprX11 bins are.  I did have a chat with wolf0 but we both let it slide due to general busyness.

[chrysophylax]

...Wherever there is need.. There is a way.. Look at ETH - The folks created the DAG file (and some other things) to keep pools etc away - Suprnova has a pool

Genius.  

The thing that bothers me most is how inefficient the SprX11 bins are.  I did have a chat with wolf0 but we both let it slide due to general busyness.

sp has made a private spreadx11 miner available ... its the same spreadminer that tsiv came out with - but with optimizations ...

it was that very same one i was using to mine spreadcoin when all that 'hooha' was going on about pools and such - while i was mining on nonce-pool ...

i just kept mining - even though some people refused to listen that i was doing so - with a few others here that were mining at the same private pool ... made a heap of spr at the time ...

anyway - if you have nvidia cards - 0.1btc ( i think - could be 0.2btc ) will get you sp's private miner and source ...

as for amd - i have no idea who does a good one - as i could NEVER compile the miner for amd cards ... that was the main thing that got under my skin ... apart from the algo itself ...

wolf could do the optimizations - it would probably be a new miner that he will have to rewrite - not just an algo - but he could do it ... who has 3btc ( or more ) that is willing to pay him for it? ...

#crysx

[jch9678]

And in general, how goes the fight for true decentralization?

Not too shabby. The potential of Mr Spread’s “anti-pool” innovation has been noted, borrowed, adopted, adapted and is now obliquely traceable via  reference #34 to Ziftrcoin (*) in Andrew Miller et als' preprint paper (PDF) Nonoutsourceable Scratch-Off Puzzles to Discourage Bitcoin Mining Coalitions.

So there ya go.

Cheers

Graham

(*) Spreadcoin repos was created well before Ziftrcoin.

Not trying to nit pick but I just wanted to point out it's actually #44.  Interesting find.

[gjhiggins]

Not trying to nit pick but I just wanted to point out it's actually #44.  Interesting find.

Oooh, nice catch. I checked #34 (finding out what he meant by “home-baked versions”) but I didn’t actually scroll down to #44, assuming it was a more recently-launched coin (I did say I ripped through it), so I totally missed the explicit reference to the Spreadcoin white paper.

Thanks.

Cheers

Graham

[bensam1231]

...Wherever there is need.. There is a way.. Look at ETH - The folks created the DAG file (and some other things) to keep pools etc away - Suprnova has a pool

Genius.  

The thing that bothers me most is how inefficient the SprX11 bins are.  I did have a chat with wolf0 but we both let it slide due to general busyness.

sp has made a private spreadx11 miner available ... its the same spreadminer that tsiv came out with - but with optimizations ...

it was that very same one i was using to mine spreadcoin when all that 'hooha' was going on about pools and such - while i was mining on nonce-pool ...

i just kept mining - even though some people refused to listen that i was doing so - with a few others here that were mining at the same private pool ... made a heap of spr at the time ...

anyway - if you have nvidia cards - 0.1btc ( i think - could be 0.2btc ) will get you sp's private miner and source ...

as for amd - i have no idea who does a good one - as i could NEVER compile the miner for amd cards ... that was the main thing that got under my skin ... apart from the algo itself ...

wolf could do the optimizations - it would probably be a new miner that he will have to rewrite - not just an algo - but he could do it ... who has 3btc ( or more ) that is willing to pay him for it? ...

#crysx

Just to make it clear, the coin isn't worth mining currently even with the private miner. You can earn more mining Vertcoin or Quark. You can find numbers for the private miners in the CCminer thread.

[pokeytex]

...Wherever there is need.. There is a way.. Look at ETH - The folks created the DAG file (and some other things) to keep pools etc away - Suprnova has a pool

Genius.  

The thing that bothers me most is how inefficient the SprX11 bins are.  I did have a chat with wolf0 but we both let it slide due to general busyness.

sp has made a private spreadx11 miner available ... its the same spreadminer that tsiv came out with - but with optimizations ...

it was that very same one i was using to mine spreadcoin when all that 'hooha' was going on about pools and such - while i was mining on nonce-pool ...

i just kept mining - even though some people refused to listen that i was doing so - with a few others here that were mining at the same private pool ... made a heap of spr at the time ...

anyway - if you have nvidia cards - 0.1btc ( i think - could be 0.2btc ) will get you sp's private miner and source ...

as for amd - i have no idea who does a good one - as i could NEVER compile the miner for amd cards ... that was the main thing that got under my skin ... apart from the algo itself ...

wolf could do the optimizations - it would probably be a new miner that he will have to rewrite - not just an algo - but he could do it ... who has 3btc ( or more ) that is willing to pay him for it? ...

#crysx

Just to make it clear, the coin isn't worth mining currently even with the private miner. You can earn more mining Vertcoin or Quark. You can find numbers for the private miners in the CCminer thread.

Curious - how do you come to the calculation that SPR isn't worth mining? 

[chrysophylax]

...Wherever there is need.. There is a way.. Look at ETH - The folks created the DAG file (and some other things) to keep pools etc away - Suprnova has a pool

Genius.  

The thing that bothers me most is how inefficient the SprX11 bins are.  I did have a chat with wolf0 but we both let it slide due to general busyness.

sp has made a private spreadx11 miner available ... its the same spreadminer that tsiv came out with - but with optimizations ...

it was that very same one i was using to mine spreadcoin when all that 'hooha' was going on about pools and such - while i was mining on nonce-pool ...

i just kept mining - even though some people refused to listen that i was doing so - with a few others here that were mining at the same private pool ... made a heap of spr at the time ...

anyway - if you have nvidia cards - 0.1btc ( i think - could be 0.2btc ) will get you sp's private miner and source ...

as for amd - i have no idea who does a good one - as i could NEVER compile the miner for amd cards ... that was the main thing that got under my skin ... apart from the algo itself ...

wolf could do the optimizations - it would probably be a new miner that he will have to rewrite - not just an algo - but he could do it ... who has 3btc ( or more ) that is willing to pay him for it? ...

#crysx

Just to make it clear, the coin isn't worth mining currently even with the private miner. You can earn more mining Vertcoin or Quark. You can find numbers for the private miners in the CCminer thread.

bensam ...

worth is not about how much 'btc' you can get to exchange it to - or 'profiteering' from the coin ...

people in this thread actually 'like' to mine this coin ... regardless of 'profit' and whether its 'worth' it some peoples eyes ...

support is just that - support ...

if you see things this way - then great ... while others see mining spr as a good thing - others dont ...

to each their own ...

i look at 'profit' VERY differently to most others ...

but again - each to their own ...

#crysx

[rendravolt]

waiting to be pumped.

[bensam1231]

...Wherever there is need.. There is a way.. Look at ETH - The folks created the DAG file (and some other things) to keep pools etc away - Suprnova has a pool

Genius.  

The thing that bothers me most is how inefficient the SprX11 bins are.  I did have a chat with wolf0 but we both let it slide due to general busyness.

sp has made a private spreadx11 miner available ... its the same spreadminer that tsiv came out with - but with optimizations ...

it was that very same one i was using to mine spreadcoin when all that 'hooha' was going on about pools and such - while i was mining on nonce-pool ...

i just kept mining - even though some people refused to listen that i was doing so - with a few others here that were mining at the same private pool ... made a heap of spr at the time ...

anyway - if you have nvidia cards - 0.1btc ( i think - could be 0.2btc ) will get you sp's private miner and source ...

as for amd - i have no idea who does a good one - as i could NEVER compile the miner for amd cards ... that was the main thing that got under my skin ... apart from the algo itself ...

wolf could do the optimizations - it would probably be a new miner that he will have to rewrite - not just an algo - but he could do it ... who has 3btc ( or more ) that is willing to pay him for it? ...

#crysx

Just to make it clear, the coin isn't worth mining currently even with the private miner. You can earn more mining Vertcoin or Quark. You can find numbers for the private miners in the CCminer thread.

Curious - how do you come to the calculation that SPR isn't worth mining? 

You use the difficulty/blocktime/reward/hashrate to calculate profits.

...Wherever there is need.. There is a way.. Look at ETH - The folks created the DAG file (and some other things) to keep pools etc away - Suprnova has a pool

Genius.  

The thing that bothers me most is how inefficient the SprX11 bins are.  I did have a chat with wolf0 but we both let it slide due to general busyness.

sp has made a private spreadx11 miner available ... its the same spreadminer that tsiv came out with - but with optimizations ...

it was that very same one i was using to mine spreadcoin when all that 'hooha' was going on about pools and such - while i was mining on nonce-pool ...

i just kept mining - even though some people refused to listen that i was doing so - with a few others here that were mining at the same private pool ... made a heap of spr at the time ...

anyway - if you have nvidia cards - 0.1btc ( i think - could be 0.2btc ) will get you sp's private miner and source ...

as for amd - i have no idea who does a good one - as i could NEVER compile the miner for amd cards ... that was the main thing that got under my skin ... apart from the algo itself ...

wolf could do the optimizations - it would probably be a new miner that he will have to rewrite - not just an algo - but he could do it ... who has 3btc ( or more ) that is willing to pay him for it? ...

#crysx

Just to make it clear, the coin isn't worth mining currently even with the private miner. You can earn more mining Vertcoin or Quark. You can find numbers for the private miners in the CCminer thread.

bensam ...

worth is not about how much 'btc' you can get to exchange it to - or 'profiteering' from the coin ...

people in this thread actually 'like' to mine this coin ... regardless of 'profit' and whether its 'worth' it some peoples eyes ...

support is just that - support ...

if you see things this way - then great ... while others see mining spr as a good thing - others dont ...

to each their own ...

i look at 'profit' VERY differently to most others ...

but again - each to their own ...

#crysx

And you're looking to bridge burn. If you wanted to support this coin, you would've mentioned the private miner back during the 'hooha' time period which you bragged about. Don't give me your moral crap when you're playing a hypocrite. You're only looking for profits just like everyone else.

Only reason you're mentioning it now is because you're 'done' with this coin and you no longer wish to mine it so you're trying to look like a good guy. Although at this point all you're doing is wrecking profits for anyone with the private miner and making people that currently mine with the open miner have to purchase the private miner due to a increase in network difficulty...

But as I mentioned, even with the private miner it's not worth mining and you can use free miners on Quark or Lyra to make more.

[MrSpace]

Told you guys that M̶a̶s̶t̶e̶r̶N̶o̶d̶e̶s̶  SpreadNodes were never going to happen, even the guy asking questions before can see that it's just a gimick.

All the stuff mentioned by chrysophylax, all the dramas involved with SPR, it is simply not worth it now, what are you guys going to do about it now ?

Keep the same model kind of but rebrand, do a swap, lower the supply and something different with a new wallet ?

Release optimized miners for AMD/GPU to make it fair to every individual right from the start without doing hardforks, etc.

OR

You can simply rebrand, swap, lower supply, add PoS & many more "Newer" features besides MasterNodes.

Quit saying "it's coming" but it never comes please.

[stonehedge]

Hi MrSpace.  Nice to see you. I hope you're enjoying the sunny weather you're having today.

[e1ghtSpace]

I'm going away for a month, I'll be back on the 10th of October.

Just letting you guys know.