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The EU army is actually not a bad thing. Russia is not threatened, it has been able to defend against every attack from the west since 1700s (and is now in a relatively good shape to do it against the combined EU forces, which are in a laughable attack readiness). The EU policy is also not directed to subdue Russia. Who is threatened is NATO ( = USA, lead by zionists), who also control the media in all the EU. The make the EU integration without USA/NATO appear unrealistic in the media, and try hard to obfuscate the scenario universe that such a thing is even possible. They try to polarize that EUrope needs to ally with the "west" (USA/Israel/NATO) or the "east" (Russia) and since "east" is obviously evil and completely unrealistic, "west" is the only viable option. In reality, the options include also dropping the baggage of USA/NATO (they are not really in the economic/military position to conquer the united Europe by force, they prefer the psyop foreign-led color revolutions with completely distorted media coverage, but this would be of no avail in EU - someone might be brainwashed enough to believe that some Kiev people want to join the USA-lead slavery but no eg. French people would credibly want it). The country-level independence movement in the EU countries has been played by NATO to appear as the alternative to the NATO/TTIP/NWO/GMO, to make people accept the latter as the former is too radical. The "center" (endorsing EU federalism to some degree at least, but kick out the U.S. influence) has been downplayed in the media. To understand what I am talking you need to know the following things: - Europe is made of different peoples - There peoples want no harm to others - They don't want to be bossied by the other EU peoples nor the USA - They see that NATO is a tool of zionists, the only threat to world peace, and (perhaps intentionally) destroys every place where it attacks to - They are mostly members in the NATO, but do not have much credible military forces, so must rely on the NATO to defend against Russia - Russia has no intention to attack and the EU people know it, so the raison d'etre for NATO in Europe has ended - The media all over EU (as well as USA) is owned by zionists and they distort the popular perception whether something is good or possible.
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The main stream media mind control is in action right now, with the osama bin laden stories.
What is the real news, is that 1) bin laden already was a prisoner with the pakistani. 2) It was a walk in - someone in the know went to the americans and told them 3) they had free pass into pakistan 4) It was an execution, not an action of self defense from the soldiers 5) Most importantly, it had nothing to do with the torture, the torture did not reveal the location of bin laden.
The stories in the main stream media is about everything else they could dig up that could be made a bin laden story - to drown the real news. The reaction they want from the sheeple: "Hey I heard bin laden mentioned, what was that about? Oh, he planned some attacks? Yeah, good they got him."
Just look at the bin laden tag on google news.
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May 21, 2015, 10:55:11 AM |
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The EU army is actually not a bad thing. Russia is not threatened, it has been able to defend against every attack from the west since 1700s (and is now in a relatively good shape to do it against the combined EU forces, which are in a laughable attack readiness). The EU policy is also not directed to subdue Russia. Who is threatened is NATO ( = USA, lead by zionists), who also control the media in all the EU. The make the EU integration without USA/NATO appear unrealistic in the media, and try hard to obfuscate the scenario universe that such a thing is even possible. They try to polarize that EUrope needs to ally with the "west" (USA/Israel/NATO) or the "east" (Russia) and since "east" is obviously evil and completely unrealistic, "west" is the only viable option. In reality, the options include also dropping the baggage of USA/NATO (they are not really in the economic/military position to conquer the united Europe by force, they prefer the psyop foreign-led color revolutions with completely distorted media coverage, but this would be of no avail in EU - someone might be brainwashed enough to believe that some Kiev people want to join the USA-lead slavery but no eg. French people would credibly want it). The country-level independence movement in the EU countries has been played by NATO to appear as the alternative to the NATO/TTIP/NWO/GMO, to make people accept the latter as the former is too radical. The "center" (endorsing EU federalism to some degree at least, but kick out the U.S. influence) has been downplayed in the media. To understand what I am talking you need to know the following things: - Europe is made of different peoples - There peoples want no harm to others - They don't want to be bossied by the other EU peoples nor the USA - They see that NATO is a tool of zionists, the only threat to world peace, and (perhaps intentionally) destroys every place where it attacks to - They are mostly members in the NATO, but do not have much credible military forces, so must rely on the NATO to defend against Russia - Russia has no intention to attack and the EU people know it, so the raison d'etre for NATO in Europe has ended - The media all over EU (as well as USA) is owned by zionists and they distort the popular perception whether something is good or possible. As a European do you see such an army being used to stomp out civil unrest and to assist tptb in wealth appropriation? I could see them using such tactics ie. placing greek troops in germany, vice versa. I imagine the same with U.N "peace keepers" They would be less likely to feel sympathy towards a foreign people and lay down their guns in solidarity.
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May 21, 2015, 01:17:16 PM |
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The EU army is actually not a bad thing. Russia is not threatened, it has been able to defend against every attack from the west since 1700s (and is now in a relatively good shape to do it against the combined EU forces, which are in a laughable attack readiness). The EU policy is also not directed to subdue Russia. Who is threatened is NATO ( = USA, lead by zionists), who also control the media in all the EU. The make the EU integration without USA/NATO appear unrealistic in the media, and try hard to obfuscate the scenario universe that such a thing is even possible. They try to polarize that EUrope needs to ally with the "west" (USA/Israel/NATO) or the "east" (Russia) and since "east" is obviously evil and completely unrealistic, "west" is the only viable option. In reality, the options include also dropping the baggage of USA/NATO (they are not really in the economic/military position to conquer the united Europe by force, they prefer the psyop foreign-led color revolutions with completely distorted media coverage, but this would be of no avail in EU - someone might be brainwashed enough to believe that some Kiev people want to join the USA-lead slavery but no eg. French people would credibly want it). The country-level independence movement in the EU countries has been played by NATO to appear as the alternative to the NATO/TTIP/NWO/GMO, to make people accept the latter as the former is too radical. The "center" (endorsing EU federalism to some degree at least, but kick out the U.S. influence) has been downplayed in the media. To understand what I am talking you need to know the following things: - Europe is made of different peoples - There peoples want no harm to others - They don't want to be bossied by the other EU peoples nor the USA - They see that NATO is a tool of zionists, the only threat to world peace, and (perhaps intentionally) destroys every place where it attacks to - They are mostly members in the NATO, but do not have much credible military forces, so must rely on the NATO to defend against Russia - Russia has no intention to attack and the EU people know it, so the raison d'etre for NATO in Europe has ended - The media all over EU (as well as USA) is owned by zionists and they distort the popular perception whether something is good or possible. As a European do you see such an army being used to stomp out civil unrest and to assist tptb in wealth appropriation? I could see them using such tactics ie. placing greek troops in germany, vice versa. I imagine the same with U.N "peace keepers" They would be less likely to feel sympathy towards a foreign people and lay down their guns in solidarity. EU member state armies or EU member state police are not even close in the mindset and brutality as the USA counterparts IN GENERAL. But in both cases, there invariably is found a subset of uniformed people willing to do the dirty jobs (large factions in U.S. forces are positively patriotic and willing to upheld the real American values but their supreme command is un-American). Since media continues to be commanded by the zionists even in this scenario, and people are quite deeply brainwashed, there is a probability of riots, and the "new European leadership" despite its (possible) good intentions towards the people, will need to react somehow. In the most positive scenario I would see a EU-wide peaceful military coup, which is de facto accepted by the NATO, and a reasonable assertion of member state rights and some federalism. This would lead to USA pulling the plug economically (it will anyway happen soon as the current state of negative yields cannot be maintained), which will hurt the EU a lot. If this leadership is anti-TPTB, it may be able to keep the European wealth in European hands, but the need to restart the economy after decades of TPTB-led gluttony, regulation, and torture of the price mechanism will be a tough call. The example of Putin in Russia shows that it can be done - economy 15 times up in 15 years is not too shabby. No wonder TPTB is furious and NATO shitting in'em pants. Compared to Russia then, Europe has enormous financial, industrial and nonfinancial (knowledge) capital. The lack of unison is the issue that Zio has been fomenting and utilizing for centuries up until now.
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May 21, 2015, 05:16:34 PM |
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The EU army is actually not a bad thing. Russia is not threatened, it has been able to defend against every attack from the west since 1700s (and is now in a relatively good shape to do it against the combined EU forces, which are in a laughable attack readiness). The EU policy is also not directed to subdue Russia.
Someone raising a club over your head is threatening. Forming a new army will be interpreted as having some relevance to defence which could imply to neighbors (e.g., Russia) that the E.U. intends to aggress against them.
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May 21, 2015, 06:10:48 PM |
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The EU army is actually not a bad thing. Russia is not threatened, it has been able to defend against every attack from the west since 1700s (and is now in a relatively good shape to do it against the combined EU forces, which are in a laughable attack readiness). The EU policy is also not directed to subdue Russia.
Someone raising a club over your head is threatening. Forming a new army will be interpreted as having some relevance to defence which could imply to neighbors (e.g., Russia) that the E.U. intends to aggress against them. The "forming" only means that the existing forces of EU countries would be under (pseudo-)unified European command, instead of the NATO command. Russia would very much appreciate getting the buffer zone from the maniacs behind the Atlantic.
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May 21, 2015, 06:19:28 PM |
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The "forming" only means that the existing forces of EU countries would be under (pseudo-)unified European command, instead of the NATO command. Russia would very much appreciate getting the buffer zone from the maniacs behind the Atlantic.
For, as all are aware, if they're unified, there's just nothing the U.S. government could do to move them - nothing.
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May 21, 2015, 06:59:08 PM |
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The "forming" only means that the existing forces of EU countries would be under (pseudo-)unified European command, instead of the NATO command. Russia would very much appreciate getting the buffer zone from the maniacs behind the Atlantic.
For, as all are aware, if they're unified, there's just nothing the U.S. government could do to move them - nothing. Yes it's exactly that mindset that I find disgusting in you guys. We get quite well along with each other and with the Russians, and do not really need you. That pisses you off so much that you send your young men to die for - tell me what exactly?
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May 21, 2015, 07:16:58 PM Last edit: May 21, 2015, 07:27:50 PM by username18333 |
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That pisses you off so much that you send your young men to die for - tell me what exactly? Plutocratic war efforts can both (1) undermine a populous’s revolutionary capabilities and (2) divert attention from its domestic economic woes to foreign boogeymen.
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May 21, 2015, 11:28:08 PM |
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rpietila, let's see if Europeans are still so loving and peaceful after their socialism is pulled out from under them by its bankruptcy. Europeans borrowed from the future in order to appease themselves. The reality of that won't be so amicable.
How can you blame everything on the zionists when in fact the people of Europe chose to bankrupt their future?
Defending the irresponsible choices of the chattel[1] will get you no where in this life nor in heaven. Why can't you accept that people are responsible for themselves?
The reason your fundamental analysis fails is because you are ideologically detached from reality. Your intellect is great.
[1] This is orthogonal to helping specific individuals work their way out of mistakes or difficulties, based on your individual appraisal of each individual situation.
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May 21, 2015, 11:42:48 PM |
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Why can't you accept that people are responsible for themselves?
And Jehovah said to Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: am I my brother’s keeper?
I say [the] truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience bearing witness with me in [the] Holy Spirit, that I have great grief and uninterrupted pain in my heart, for I have wished, I myself, to be a curse from the Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen, according to flesh; who are Israelites; whose [is] the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the law-giving, and the service, and the promises; whose [are] the fathers; and of whom, as according to flesh, [is] the Christ, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
(All additions original to the Darby text.)
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May 25, 2015, 03:48:12 PM Last edit: May 25, 2015, 03:59:20 PM by OROBTC |
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O/T, but sort-of important to me. I just (finally after a few days locked out) got back here into bitcointalk. Had a problem trying to solve the password issue.
Pleased to be back in the arena.
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rpietila, username18333, TPTB
I think we can all agree to no more war! Not against Russia, not against anyone, no more wars period. The "other TPTB" (the big ones) might have other ideas though.
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I think I solved my problem re password and password change.
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May 26, 2015, 04:52:14 AM Last edit: May 26, 2015, 08:11:42 AM by TPTB_need_war |
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In my estimation, recent state-level marijuana legalization events are of equivalent magnitude to the fall of the Berlin wall in terms of what it means about Washington DC's internal control over the US, and probably means the US empire is approximately at the same point it its life cycle as the Soviet empire was in 1989.
And then most of Russia's resources were handed out to a few oligarchs who are beholden to the cartel. And do you know who was over there organizing that? Larry Summers. The same former US Treasury and World Bank official (also was nominated to replace Bernanke) involved with 21 Inc, who first floated the idea of negative interest rates and eliminating cash. Do some research folks. Didn't know Summers was involved in that. So it reads like due to the 2008 crisis, DC can't exercise control over the states as their political longevity / security has taken a large hit (struggling with revenue / solvency / unemployment concerns etc). Weed brings in much needed revenue. Economic conditions resulting from 2008 also gave rise to Bitcoin. Bitcoin was created by the DEEP STATE as a strategic move to coop existing banking and currency systems in order to drive the move to digital currency and do to this power grab in a obfuscated manner that fools the geeks and turns them into gullible accomplices. Are you not aware of the $3+ trillion black budget of the DEEP STATE? Donald Rumsfeld (while he was Secretary of Defense under POTUS junior Bush) announced on the eve of 9/11 that such amount had gone missing from the DoD's budget. Conveniently the next day all the records of the investigation and the investigators were eliminated by the airborne attack on that one specific section of the Pentagon (with of course the alleged leaks of former Vice POTUS Cheney commanding the F-15s to stand down and allow the attack to proceed). Catherine Austin Fitts (former Asst to the Secretary of HUD, Jack Kemp and former Wall Street insider) has written extensively about the Black Budget at her http://solari.comBill Moyers did a TV documentary on the DEEP STATE. Armstrong has a letter from the SEC confirming that all the tape recordings he had of the bankster manipulations were destroyed at the World Trade Center towers on 9/11. Etc.. The evidence weaves a story. Control over the drug trade is not about funding as much as it is about corrupting other officials, governments, and societies. It is one element in a full spectrum matrix of power and control. I can see they are trying to take this forum down again. Keep getting "Bad Gateway" which is what happened right before it went down a few days ago.
Edit: a very smart friend of mind relates to me that a Soros foundation was contributing money to the campaign to legalize marijuana in Colorado that was eventually successful. And notes that the-powers-that-be have objectives to simultaneously both restrict and promote drugs. They promote them because a population in a stupor is less resistant to erosion of freedoms and quite dependent in any collapse scenario. They restrict drugs because this gives them legal control over those individuals they've promoted to use and traffic drugs. Note that legalizing marijuana is also synonymous with agreeing that plants should be regulated by the State. Otherwise, why is it necessary to legalize use of a plant? You see the-powers-that-be are playing game with you, regulating you at the Federal level unconstitutionally then getting you to pass laws at the State level to admit their unconstitutional Federal laws are the law, thus enslaving yourselves by bringing plants under the prevue (jurisdiction) of law. Simpleton thinking falls for the ploy that legalizing MJ is any form of increasing freedom. Rockefeller's foundations and NGOs were instrumental in funding everything from 1960s activism, to feminism, to environmentalism.
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May 26, 2015, 04:58:02 AM |
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I will be making a post later in my day (GMT+7) to make some counter points on this article: On the Clothing of Emperors: A Rant about 21.co and the Future of Bitcoin MiningMy main points will be: 1. Marginal-cost of electricity and variable seasons of the Bitcoin price market vs. speed of deployment of fixed capital investment (Economics 101 lesson) 2. (Politically obfuscated) goal of >50% control of hashrate to increase profits in side-channels, including but not limited to a near monopoly on setting txn fees. 3. TDP is only limited on cell phones by the mass and/or extent of heat dissipation apparatus? P.S. I made some comments about the recent downtime of bitcointalk, and I noticed the timing of the takedown was approximately immediately after I wrote my prior jaw-dropping post and my post which solidified some of the essential points of my allegations against 21 Inc.'s business model. I am not totally ruling out the possibility that the the-powers-that-be are scrambling to figure out how to squelch these revelations. A friend of mine has agreed to pass on these revelations to those who can publish them far and wide in the alternative media scene (think Alex Jones and spin offs). It is possible they wanted to view my private messages, if they don't already have them since I turned off email notification and assuming the elite aren't in control of the certificate issuer for the SSL certificate for this site. In any case, they won't learn much from my private messages. They would need to crack Bitmessage instead. OTOH, it is not likely that elite are concerned about the unproven capabilities of some nobody like myself. They have bigger fish to fry and the masses are probably going to fall into the NWO no matter what we all do here. Also I should add the Larry Summers and Robert Rubin were instrumental in the repeal of Glass-Steagal during the Clinton administration. Also note I emailed Martin Armstrong about these revelations and he did not print it, even though he is the one who has been harping on Larry Summers and the move to electronic cash. The only reason I can think of for him not writing about this, is because it is blatant evidence of a globalized plan towards a global Technocracy — something which he denies the elite are capable of planning or coordinating on a global scale. Martin claims the elite are fools who can't trade well and need a public backstop so they can gamble with other people's money. He doesn't agree that there is a global coordination amongst the elite with long-range plans for NWO control. Thus this is evidence that either Armstrong is disingenuous (censors to fit his irrational ego) or worse he is in bed with the elite helping to promote globalized "solutions" such as his calls for coordinate political and bond restructuring reforms harmonized with a move to a NWO one-world reserve currency.
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May 26, 2015, 07:48:46 AM |
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For those who know my Bitmessage address (public key), you can now message me or check for messages from me. I am now running BitMessage again.
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i'm surprised armstrong made it out of prison alive, perhaps his release was secured by the powers that be with conditions he promote an "alternative solution" that still falls under their control.
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