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September 01, 2015, 03:57:15 AM
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lol.. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/08/thai-police-reward-84k-bomb-arrest-150831132420038.html
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September 01, 2015, 06:09:40 AM
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Think we don't need a global crypto coin that is decentralized and not controlled by anyone?

http://www.quora.com/How-long-should-international-bank-transfers-take-by-SWIFT

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Just a tip: try to trim the coconut skin to make it smaller and put them in the refrigerator, this will make your coconuts fresh for a week or more, and opening the coconut that is already cold will save you time to chill and it will always taste better because it is newly opened compared to putting it in the pitcher and refigerating it.

To test a coconut if it is too young, old or just right:
 - hold it up on your palm and tap it downwards with your other palm, you can feel through the vibration that the coconut is young, old or just right, practice makes perfect.
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September 01, 2015, 11:09:22 AM
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Reading two separate posts on two totally different sites today made me to post this here:

Post 1:
Putin says dump dollar

Russian President Vladimir Putin has drafted a bill that aims to eliminate the US dollar and the euro from trade between CIS countries.
This means the creation of a single financial market between Russia, Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and other countries of the former Soviet Union.
“This would help expand the use of national currencies in foreign trade payments and financial services and thus create preconditions for greater liquidity of domestic currency markets”, said a statement from Kremlin.
The bill would also help to facilitate trade in the region and help to achieve macro-economic stability.


Source: http://www.rt.com/business/313967-putin-says-dump-dollar/


Post 2:
Russian Military Forces Arrive In Syria, Set Forward Operating Base Near Damascus

According to Ynet, Russian fighter pilots are expected to begin arriving in Syria in the coming days, and will fly their Russian air force fighter jets and attack helicopters against ISIS and rebel-aligned targets within the failing state.
And just like the US and Turkish air forces are supposedly in the region to "eradicate the ISIS threat", there can't be any possible complaints that Russia has also decided to take its fight to the jihadists - even if it is doing so from the territory of what the real goal of US and Turkish intervention is - Syria. After all, it is a free for all against ISIS, right?


Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-31/russian-military-forces-arrive-syria-set-forward-operating-base-near-damascus

Well; amid the Latest Abysmal Chinese Economic Data, Putin has decided to step ahead and get something done in Syria. In essence, I think he's making a favor to the EU by establishing an active force there. This will probably stop the myriads of immigrants towards its territory. The alleged story behind the scenes is that "since everybody fights against ISIS then they might need a hand". Yeah, right...

I personally think that this is a hit under the belt for whoever funds ISIS et al. Plus, Turkey has a lot to worry since the Kurds have now a backup against the "mistaken" bombings on their stands in Syria. This seems like the endgame of this travesty.

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In addition to that point, Monero relies on I2P which doesn't provide anonymity against the NSA.

Once you are on the internet it is not possible to hide from the NSA that you are using an application such as I2P and I think it will be the case with your new application as well. The NSA will know who is using your network just like they can figure out who is using I2P. I doubt it is possible to design anything in which the TCP or UDP traffic is not traceable by the NSA. The NSA is able to track down what users use once the application is connected to the internet. However, if I2P is properly configured it is possible to hide the content of the communication from even NSA. At this stage and using the current computing power NSA unable to break the encryption of I2P. Using this internet the traceability can't be avoided but an adequate privacy can be achieved with I2P which in my opinion terms of content privacy is a safe solution.

I have already designed an anonymity network that can statistically hide patterns of traffic from an entity that can see every packet that moves over the internet. Tor and I2P aren't even close to accomplishing this. For example, for Tor and I2P just flood an onion route with traffic and the path through to the hidden server lights up with more traffic than the rest of the nodes. Numerous other fundamental flaws.

The remaining issue is that the governments can simply ban an anonymity network. So if you don't make something popular then don't expect it to be resistant to government.

I can definitely improve upon Tor, I2P, and Bitmessage and give us anonymity for some years when we really need it. But the governments will eventually wise up and cooperate with each other and ban it (will take them some years to get there though). Or maybe there will be a few governments that don't, then we be on a new playing field and win. Or maybe the people of the world end up using it and it becomes very popular, then the governments can't ban it (just like they can't ban porn and other popular activities).

Please do not say what it is not technically possible if you haven't actually gotten down into the nitty gritty details. It is indeed very difficult to hide traffic patterns. The main challenge will be insuring that not most of the nodes in the anonymity networked aren't Sybil attacked. For this, reputation is very important. Humans will have to do what they do best, which is gauge trust levels. For example, would you trust my nodes if I digitally signed that I was operating them honestly? There must be a profit incentive to operate a node, which is where micropayment channels come in (even Bitcoin could in theory do real-time channels with the proposed Lightening network).

Overall we need to look at anonymity as a hedge of our bets. What we most want is decentralized digital currency that can scale to a million transactions per second, that no government nor global entity can control. Even if it is not anonymous that will be a big win. Bitcoin can't scale and remain under decentralized control. If we also can get strong anonymity in there, then perhaps jurisdictions will open up in the world where they respect and use the anonymity. Or perhaps we there remain enough avenues to continue to use the anonymity in spite of government's attempts to ban such things (there are technical possibilities as well good ole human ingenuity). I think it is important to get those technologies out there and enable people to start employing them in different ways, so the ecosystems become mature, funded, and out pacing the government. The government has a difficult time of telling widespread humanity not to earn money on something they are already profiting from. Humans are hard headed in that case. For example, the Chinese, the Mongolians, the Iranians, etc, etc, etc.

I have perfected all those designs. Again a Bitcoin killer. And I am not joking. You miss this investment and you miss an opportunity of a lifetime.

P.S. Feeling great today. I think I am on the way to being cured of M.S.!!! So excited. But I said this in the past. So hold on for confirmation. So far, I feel entirely different. I feel my life coming back.


The contagion that will accelerate end of this month, will cause a stampede into sovereign bonds. This will be the final peak in the 30+ year sovereign bond bubble.



Since speculative capital follows speculative capital, this will suck capital out of everything else. Gold and Bitcoin will experience massive short selling because they are small markets easily driven down by such. Thus any sell off to below $700 and $100 will be a very significant buying opportunity for those who are wise.

After Spring 2016, as the bond bubble is clearly crashing, there will be a global stampede into that will envelope into a phase transition high in mid to late 2017 for us dollar and us stocks:

  • us dollar
  • us stocks
  • private assets such as gold and Bitcoin will start to get a bid

The greatest craziest gains for gold and crypto may come after 2017, as the us dollar and us stocks fall into the global collapse and there are no other assets to turn to in order to safeguard capital. By that point, cypto features such as anonymity may be very important.

From 2016 to 2017, the most important features of crypto will be scalability and ability to do safe instant transactions while not centralizing the mining. Bitcoin can't do this.


Government dictatorship is one of the very ugliest set of scenarios facing us.  I hope TPTB's project is a step on the long & hard road to eventual freedom.

It will be a mixed bag. There won't be an absolute solution in any direction. Again diversification.

By leading the way for more people to be productive with a scalable crypto currency, we will be laying the ground work for humanity.

This is a our duty as well as our profit.  Grin

I am interested in your coin and work that's why I am following you as well as intend to invest when the opportunity arise, so I look forward to continue reading your very interesting posts about the progress on the coin and in general about digital currencies.

Terms of the design and implementation details of the anonymous solution, I don't want to redirect the topic from its original aim of discussing the economic totalitarianism, and just shortly let me note that being in the software business myself as well I have been dealing with these issues for a while too, in my experience one of the issues is that there is always a trade-off with these anonymous designs. If we mix the packet forwarding with many peers or channel the packets via multiple peers (to hide the origin and destination) then there is a performance lost - that's a trade-off between hiding the traffic and performance. Not to mention, that I am absolutely convinced that because of the nature of TCP and UDP based communication NSA will always be able to follow the route of the packets - it's just matter of having the adequate metadata of the packets, which NSA clearly have.

I agree what you said that even if a currency is not anonymous it could be a winner as well as I agree with you that the government can shut down everything. I also agree with Marty Armstrong that the government in fact will shut down digital currencies at the moment when it interrupts tax collection on the large scale. Regardless this it is worth to try to roll out good digital currency solutions.

In the context of this economic totalitarianism discussion, I think it is more important that what should be the approach regarding such totalitarian attitude. In my opinion - since I believe it is not possible to hide the communication from the law enforcement - it is good enough to hide the content of the communication by properly encrypting it. The agencies will be able to see that e.g. you and me are communicating via a peer network but the content will be remain confidential between you and me using adequate cryptography routines. That's a good first step in the resistance against totalitarian governments.
 
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September 01, 2015, 07:32:03 PM
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First of all, I maintain the biggest win for a new crypto coin is to fix Bitcoin's scaling and centralization problems. Also to enable perfect 0-confirmation transactions and microtransactions, so the social networks such as Facebook can be enabled to use crypto for Likes, etc.. That is paramount to anonymity and that is the first goal of producing a coin that functions on a testnet asap. That is the Bitcoin killer and now that my health is fine, this should be brought to testnet as quickly as possible.



You are incorrect that having access to all the underlying packets means the authorities can unmask your anonymity with a properly designed and implemented anonymity network built on a higher network layer on top of those packets.

With an anonymity network, the packets do not proceed directly between the designated ends of the communication. They are instead mixed with many other communications, so it becomes indeterminable which source packets are designated for which ends. Even the ends can become indeterminable, because it is not clear which node is the end and which is a relay.

But the problem is that the existing anonymity networks do not implement this correctly, because it is not easy. I know what needs to be done technically. I am capable of doing it, if my health continues to be good.

Latency will definitely increase with an anonymity network. But if the web apps are properly designed to cache more data client side, then you will hardly notice. Most web programmers are not even designing for latency at all.

You are correct that meta data can unmask the anonymity network and that is why the solutions need to be more much holistic. Tor and I2P attempt to integrate with existing web sites and web clients, and that is one reason they fail to be robust against the authorities that can record every packet.

We shouldn't assume the government can ban encryption and anonymity networks.

  • There are many governments. Coordination takes years to organize.
  • If an activity becomes popular on the internet, it becomes difficult to ban it, e.g. music file sharing (remember they banned Napster). There are billions of people in the world and they can tinker and find innovative ways around authorities when something is in high demand, e.g. WiFi can be beamed 50 kms with a simple parabolic dish setup.
  • Even if the future world government does ban everything, we have those features interim.
  • It will take years before any crypto currency would disrupt taxation on any significant scale.
  • The corrupt authorities want to hide their ill-gotten wealth also. They have an incentive not to ban it especially as the entire system starts collapsing. The bastards at the very top have to be careful, because the underlings aren't just going to roll over. There are many competing interests. The world is still complex. Don't try to predict that you know the Butterfly Effect outcome of creating better technologies.
  • The anonymity should be an optional feature of the coin.
  • It should be impossible to censor the coin network of anonymous transactions (Bitcoin, Monero, and all existing PoW coins can't make this guarantee due to scaling requires mining centralization).
  • Anonymity is also useful for privacy, not just hiding from authorities. If you become a crypto $billionaire and the economy is collapsing, you don't want to be a target for kidnapping.

Even without an anonymity network, you can still use an open WiFi to send your transactions to the block chain anonymously (even using both is great), and thus improving upon Monero's on chain anonymity is important.

As for what is best to do action wise. You can hide from the authorities if you want to, and then later you can decide when you sell and time to report capital gains taxes, whether you will declare or not, depending on the situation in the world at that time.

Also best if you restructure your residency and citizenship so you are not required to pay taxes nor declare. And then be anonymous on top of that. So that you basically are not a visible target in the system.

I did a search at instantcheck.com and it couldn't even find me. It found all my relatives. I been gone from the USA since 2006 so I am not showing up in many databases. That is what you want. Disappear.


P.S. So far no re-occurrence of that dreaded shit Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. Frankly I don't know how I was productive at all with that shit. If you've never had it, you have no idea. Thinking "walking dead" or zombie. It is horrible.

Disclaimer: I am not a tax adviser so consult your own. I am not advocating anyone break any law. Act on your own decisions. I am just sharing my ideas.

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September 01, 2015, 07:41:17 PM
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There is no efficcient way all the governments of the world could collaborate and ban all crypto. Technology does catch on fast and as far as I know there have been countries that have tried to ban Bitcoin but were not successful. Bitcoin is here to stay as far as I can see.

Signatures? How about learning a skill... I don't care either way. Everybody has to make a living somehow.
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When deciding whether to buy gold or crypto, I suggest thinking about gold as something you can probably sell at a profit before 2018, but after that it will probably need to sit for a long time before taking gains. The entire physical assets bubble may be over by the time gold can be sold without basically being expropriated (depending on your luck, venue, tax jurisdiction, etc). So either gold is a short-term speculation after Spring or it is a long-term holding.

Crypto is more volatile but will have much greater gains than gold. Probably more than 10X or even 100X more gain (depending which coins you buy). Also crypto will likely be spendable after 2018, probably even anonymous means of doing so if necessary.

Crypto will be more mobile and more avenues for use and sales.

Crypto does have the risk of the network becoming shutdown. But this can be improved. For example, Bitcoin basically dies if the network fragments, but I have a solution to this. Did I say Bitcoin killer. Yes I did. And I mean it. The idea is to mainstream it as much as possible.

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In a private exchange, I tried to clarify that it is probably less likely that smaller market coins such as Monero have centralized mining or that they would any time soon. However the key point is we can't know!

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Anonymity to the block chain is easier to achieve. I was speaking to the more challenging case of trying to hide persistent hidden servers.

Monero is no where near being centralized unless it has been Sybil attacked, which is probably easier because it has less hash rate than Bitcoin. Bitcoin is probably already centralized through Sybil attacked pools. The key point is we don't have a way of knowing for sure.

So any consensus method that effectively eliminates pools will be of great interest I think. It should certainly raise many eyebrows.

Sybil attacked pools means we can look at a chart of pools and still we can't conclude that enough of Bitcoin's pools are effectively controlled (or regulated) by one entity such that 51% of the hash rate can be controlled (for example to censor in the future transactions, especially those not accompanied by KYC identification).

21%F2Pool
18%BitFurry
17%AntPool
10%BTCChina Pool
8%BW.COM
7%Slush
6%KnCMiner
4%21 Inc.

The top 3 pools there are already > 51% of the hash rate. How difficult is it for the governments to regulate three pools, or otherwise force them to sell controlling interest. How can even be sure these pools haven't received a national security gag order letter.





And then coming up fast is TPTB's (former World Bank and US Treasury official and prime proponent of ZIRP and move towards digital currency to enslave the people) Larry Summers' 21 Inc, which will monopolize mining of Bitcoin by giving away hardware for nearly free in exchange for using the user's electricity to compute hashes.

Come on it is so obvious, you'd have to be blind to say Bitcoin's mining is decentralized.

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In a private exchange, I tried to clarify that it is probably less likely that smaller market coins such as Monero have centralized mining or that they would any time soon. However the key point is we can't know!

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Anonymity to the block chain is easier to achieve. I was speaking to the more challenging case of trying to hide persistent hidden servers.

Monero is no where near being centralized unless it has been Sybil attacked, which is probably easier because it has less hash rate than Bitcoin. Bitcoin is probably already centralized through Sybil attacked pools. The key point is we don't have a way of knowing for sure.

So any consensus method that effectively eliminates pools will be of great interest I think. It should certainly raise many eyebrows.

Sybil attacked pools means we can look at a chart of pools and still we can't conclude that enough of Bitcoin's pools are effectively controlled (or regulated) by one entity such that 51% of the hash rate can be controlled (for example to censor in the future transactions, especially those not accompanied by KYC identification).

21%F2Pool
18%BitFurry
17%AntPool
10%BTCChina Pool
8%BW.COM
7%Slush
6%KnCMiner
4%21 Inc.

The top 3 pools there are already > 51% of the hash rate. How difficult is it for the governments to regulate three pools, or otherwise force them to sell controlling interest.

Notice that the top 5 (not even 3!) are in all China.

21.com may be a "conspiracy" by Larry Summers and his western elite buddies but at this point 21 becoming larger would likely be an improvement (perhaps only short term) in decentralized control.
 


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21.com may be a "conspiracy" by Larry Summers and his western elite buddies but at this point 21 becoming larger would likely be an improvement (perhaps only short term) in decentralized control.

Arguing diminishing possibilities is a diminishing return. Efficiency of communication and thought are very important.

Larry Summers' record (as linked in my prior post) indicates he is not involved with 21 Inc. for any good reason. He certainly has ties to China's leadership as well, so I don't see an effective decentralization in terms of the plan forward (which you alluded to with "short term" but then why even bother mentioning it). I don't like to pretend I am idiot just to allow 0.001% chance he has reformed himself.

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21.com may be a "conspiracy" by Larry Summers and his western elite buddies but at this point 21 becoming larger would likely be an improvement (perhaps only short term) in decentralized control.

Arguing diminishing possibilities is a diminishing return. Efficiency of communication and thought are very important.

Larry Summers' record (as linked in my prior post) indicates he is not involved with 21 Inc. for any good reason. He certainly has ties to China's leadership as well, so I don't see an effective decentralization in terms of the plan forward (which you alluded to with "short term" but then why even bother mentioning it). I don't like to pretend I am idiot just to allow 0.001% chance he has reformed himself.

I don't believe Larry Summers has changed his outlook significantly, but I also believe that 74% of the hash rate controlled by a few large pools in China (which as far as I know are serving primarily a few large mines in China) is significantly worse than spreading it around the world. That does not preclude creating something radically better, but as long as Bitcoin is still the dominant cryptocurrency (by around 95% last I looked) it is worthy of special attention.







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I am approaching it purely from the stand point of the future of being able to do a transaction without having to provide my 666 know-your-customer number.

From that standpoint, I see no distinction worth wasting time mentioning.

I can understand that one might argue other scenarios such as China holding Bitcoin hostage and better to have some control in the USA. I view that possibility as Nil, because as soon as China attempted to do that, pools will spontaneously sprout outside of China. Any harm from centralization will have to be tolerable by the majority, i.e. all those who already provide their 666 number given they use Bitcoin via Coinbase, Blockchain.com, Paypal, etc.. Hooking the majority in with free hardware mining Bitcoin is part of this overall strategy of making the world dependent and unable to resist the new world order. Obvious as a sore thumb.

And now we have wasted time on a few more posts.

I need to be busy coding and producing opportunities for humanity to create new markets and profit so humanity will resist the enslavement.

Edit: emphasizing China is harmful, because then if the community organizes to attempt to force pools outside of China, they will think the problem of centralization is solved. Rather the problem is fundamental, structural design, and economics. Can't be solved with Bitcoin's current design.

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Notice that the top 5 (not even 3!) are in all China.
Is BitFury in China?
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I can understand that one might argue other scenarios such as China holding Bitcoin hostage and better to have some control in the USA. I view that possibility as Nil, because as soon as China attempted to do that, pools will spontaneously sprout outside of China.

This is likely incorrect because the miners are in China as well, and they won't/can't use pools outside China possibly for political reasons but certainly because internet connectivity in/out of China is both generally poor and heavily restricted.

This is self-reinforcing (pools want to be where the miners are and miners want to be where the pools are, and also of course pools want to be where the other pools are, as long as they are geographically concentrated) as long as no one like 21 comes along with sufficient scale to disrupt it.

Furthermore, concentration in any country is harmful because it gives even other countries more power. US can ask or pressure China to force its miners/pools to do X and unless this is something that China specifically opposes, it will likely agree to do it. But to the extent that authority is spread out this becomes much harder if not impossible, as with your comments above about some countries allowing the sorts of anonymity technologies that other countries will ban/block. That can't happen if the whole damn thing is in one country.

tldr: Bitcoin today is effectively Chinacoin, and it's pretty much stuck there unless someone invests in breaking that monopoly.

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Edit: emphasizing China is harmful, because then if the community organizes to attempt to force pools outside of China, they will think the problem of centralization is solved. Rather the problem is fundamental and economics. Can't be solved with Bitcoin's current design.

Some aspects of centralization are indeed fundamentally addressed by spreading infrastructure around, as above.

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If China today tried to shut down Bitcoin, the rest of the world would fork the hash if necessary to kill the threat. The politics is such that people can be moved en masse against such threats. Coinbase, Blockchain.com and a few others can get together and make it happen.

The threat we face is not coming from regional concentration. It is from the cooperation of the TPTB globally to enslave us.

Any more off topic posts on this are just noise and frankly make me think the person writing them is not efficient.

Edit: not to mention that most likely many of 21 Inc's subsidized cell phones will be distributed in the Asian Union, which China will control.

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First of all, I maintain the biggest win for a new crypto coin is to fix Bitcoin's scaling and centralization problems. Also to enable perfect 0-confirmation transactions and microtransactions, so the social networks such as Facebook can be enabled to use crypto for Likes, etc.. That is paramount to anonymity and that is the first goal of producing a coin that functions on a testnet asap. That is the Bitcoin killer and now that my health is fine, this should be brought to testnet as quickly as possible.



You are incorrect that having access to all the underlying packets means the authorities can unmask your anonymity with a properly designed and implemented anonymity network built on a higher network layer on top of those packets.

With an anonymity network, the packets do not proceed directly between the designated ends of the communication. They are instead mixed with many other communications, so it becomes indeterminable which source packets are designated for which ends. Even the ends can become indeterminable, because it is not clear which node is the end and which is a relay.

But the problem is that the existing anonymity networks do not implement this correctly, because it is not easy. I know what needs to be done technically. I am capable of doing it, if my health continues to be good.

Latency will definitely increase with an anonymity network. But if the web apps are properly designed to cache more data client side, then you will hardly notice. Most web programmers are not even designing for latency at all.

You are correct that meta data can unmask the anonymity network and that is why the solutions need to be more much holistic. Tor and I2P attempt to integrate with existing web sites and web clients, and that is one reason they fail to be robust against the authorities that can record every packet.

We shouldn't assume the government can ban encryption and anonymity networks.

  • There are many governments. Coordination takes years to organize.
  • If an activity becomes popular on the internet, it becomes difficult to ban it, e.g. music file sharing (remember they banned Napster). There are billions of people in the world and they can tinker and find innovative ways around authorities when something is in high demand, e.g. WiFi can be beamed 50 kms with a simple parabolic dish setup.
  • Even if the future world government does ban everything, we have those features interim.
  • It will take years before any crypto currency would disrupt taxation on any significant scale.
  • The corrupt authorities want to hide their ill-gotten wealth also. They have an incentive not to ban it especially as the entire system starts collapsing. The bastards at the very top have to be careful, because the underlings aren't just going to roll over. There are many competing interests. The world is still complex. Don't try to predict that you know the Butterfly Effect outcome of creating better technologies.
  • The anonymity should be an optional feature of the coin.
  • It should be impossible to censor the coin network of anonymous transactions (Bitcoin, Monero, and all existing PoW coins can't make this guarantee due to scaling requires mining centralization).
  • Anonymity is also useful for privacy, not just hiding from authorities. If you become a crypto $billionaire and the economy is collapsing, you don't want to be a target for kidnapping.

Even without an anonymity network, you can still use an open WiFi to send your transactions to the block chain anonymously (even using both is great), and thus improving upon Monero's on chain anonymity is important.

As for what is best to do action wise. You can hide from the authorities if you want to, and then later you can decide when you sell and time to report capital gains taxes, whether you will declare or not, depending on the situation in the world at that time.

Also best if you restructure your residency and citizenship so you are not required to pay taxes nor declare. And then be anonymous on top of that. So that you basically are not a visible target in the system.

I did a search at instantcheck.com and it couldn't even find me. It found all my relatives. I been gone from the USA since 2006 so I am not showing up in many databases. That is what you want. Disappear.


P.S. So far no re-occurrence of that dreaded shit Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. Frankly I don't know how I was productive at all with that shit. If you've never had it, you have no idea. Thinking "walking dead" or zombie. It is horrible.

Disclaimer: I am not a tax adviser so consult your own. I am not advocating anyone break any law. Act on your own decisions. I am just sharing my ideas.

so do i buy monero senpai ;-;
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September 02, 2015, 02:36:09 AM
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First of all, I maintain the biggest win for a new crypto coin is to fix Bitcoin's scaling and centralization problems. Also to enable perfect 0-confirmation transactions and microtransactions, so the social networks such as Facebook can be enabled to use crypto for Likes, etc.. That is paramount to anonymity and that is the first goal of producing a coin that functions on a testnet asap. That is the Bitcoin killer and now that my health is fine, this should be brought to testnet as quickly as possible.



You are incorrect that having access to all the underlying packets means the authorities can unmask your anonymity with a properly designed and implemented anonymity network built on a higher network layer on top of those packets.

With an anonymity network, the packets do not proceed directly between the designated ends of the communication. They are instead mixed with many other communications, so it becomes indeterminable which source packets are designated for which ends. Even the ends can become indeterminable, because it is not clear which node is the end and which is a relay.

But the problem is that the existing anonymity networks do not implement this correctly, because it is not easy. I know what needs to be done technically. I am capable of doing it, if my health continues to be good.

Latency will definitely increase with an anonymity network. But if the web apps are properly designed to cache more data client side, then you will hardly notice. Most web programmers are not even designing for latency at all.

You are correct that meta data can unmask the anonymity network and that is why the solutions need to be more much holistic. Tor and I2P attempt to integrate with existing web sites and web clients, and that is one reason they fail to be robust against the authorities that can record every packet.

We shouldn't assume the government can ban encryption and anonymity networks.

  • There are many governments. Coordination takes years to organize.
  • If an activity becomes popular on the internet, it becomes difficult to ban it, e.g. music file sharing (remember they banned Napster). There are billions of people in the world and they can tinker and find innovative ways around authorities when something is in high demand, e.g. WiFi can be beamed 50 kms with a simple parabolic dish setup.
  • Even if the future world government does ban everything, we have those features interim.
  • It will take years before any crypto currency would disrupt taxation on any significant scale.
  • The corrupt authorities want to hide their ill-gotten wealth also. They have an incentive not to ban it especially as the entire system starts collapsing. The bastards at the very top have to be careful, because the underlings aren't just going to roll over. There are many competing interests. The world is still complex. Don't try to predict that you know the Butterfly Effect outcome of creating better technologies.
  • The anonymity should be an optional feature of the coin.
  • It should be impossible to censor the coin network of anonymous transactions (Bitcoin, Monero, and all existing PoW coins can't make this guarantee due to scaling requires mining centralization).
  • Anonymity is also useful for privacy, not just hiding from authorities. If you become a crypto $billionaire and the economy is collapsing, you don't want to be a target for kidnapping.

Even without an anonymity network, you can still use an open WiFi to send your transactions to the block chain anonymously (even using both is great), and thus improving upon Monero's on chain anonymity is important.

As for what is best to do action wise. You can hide from the authorities if you want to, and then later you can decide when you sell and time to report capital gains taxes, whether you will declare or not, depending on the situation in the world at that time.

Also best if you restructure your residency and citizenship so you are not required to pay taxes nor declare. And then be anonymous on top of that. So that you basically are not a visible target in the system.

I did a search at instantcheck.com and it couldn't even find me. It found all my relatives. I been gone from the USA since 2006 so I am not showing up in many databases. That is what you want. Disappear.


P.S. So far no re-occurrence of that dreaded shit Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. Frankly I don't know how I was productive at all with that shit. If you've never had it, you have no idea. Thinking "walking dead" or zombie. It is horrible.

Disclaimer: I am not a tax adviser so consult your own. I am not advocating anyone break any law. Act on your own decisions. I am just sharing my ideas.

so do i buy monero senpai ;-;

buy at your own risk. kappa.

but yeah, i say heck with taxes, and just have a dont get caught mentality. rules are made to be broken.
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Edit: not to mention that most likely many of 21 Inc's subsidized cell phones will be distributed in the Asian Union, which China will control.

I honestly think that China's national authorities don't really care about Bitcoin and consider it well below their pay grade (which I don't happen to disagree with) but if this became important they would just ban 21's chips in phones distributed (and mostly manufactured remember) in China, or even better clone the 21.com chips to make 88.com chips instead and control it themselves.
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In 2013 and 2014, I made a vow if ever I was involved in a coin, not to put my name on it. This was mostly to attempt to deflect politics and also for my personal safety against kidnapping and that sort of thing.

I have discovered that it is very difficult to gain confidence in a coin where the developers are anonymous.

Also I have discovered that my technical reputation carries some weight in this forum.

I think my original intention was w.r.t. to a coin with strong anonymity advances, and was also motivated by not wanting to be a target of TPTB. Well at this point, any such anonymity for myself is blown to smithereens and can't ever hope to get it back. I am old already at age 50. And the tail end of my career was destroyed by the Multiple Sclerosis and personal issues that exploded with losing vision in one eye in 1999. The point of saying this, is I don't have as much to lose as someone in a better situation.

Lately since I've been surviving on only leafy greens and coconut meat, I realized I could always survive even deep in the Amazon jungle or pretty much any where.

I've got one more chance to make my mark on my career. My intellect and coding abilities are still one of the best in the world (sorry but I know my abilities and this isn't bullshit ... if anyone thinks their abilities are top notch ... come on I'd love your help and competition!!).

Thus I have decided to put my name on my coin!

I will be leading this coin out in the open, which will make it much easier.

My coin will be launched without any anonymity features. That is a key point.

My anonymity designs will be offloaded to others and these can be added to the coin after the fact by others. I do not want to be held culpable for the anonymity stuff, although I will make sure all my awesome designs are passed on so they can be implemented.

My job will be to make sure this superior consensus design overtakes Bitcoin and gets spread out every where.

I will soon announce the name and make a thread for it in the Altcoin section, letting the community know it is coming.

Next we have a different plan for the community of this coin. We will not be doing the usual trolling in the forums. Instead we are going to have Wiki that anyone can make a comment to. These comments will remain in the history, but we will edit the Wiki and organize the logic so it is consumable by a person who comes to learn.

Means no censorship but we want to squelch the noise and focus on maximizing communication of essential information.

We'll post updates to the Altcoin forums, but we won't entertain tit'for'tat debates in the forums for our official moderated threads. Those who want can go to our Wikis. Of course any one can make an unofficial thread and go on and on and on in tirades should they wish.

P.S. just finished jogging at mid day tropical heat of the Philippines and I feel great.

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