Economic Totalitarianism

[TPTB_need_war]

If you are already an Australian citizen, then I think you should stay there for the time being, but get a 2nd citizenship for your family in a jurisdiction that won't tax (won't require you to report) your foreign earned income. Then you can wait and see what happens, and if necessary you can flee using your 2nd citizenship and even renounce your Australian citizenship if it becomes absolutely necessary (hopefully not).

I can't see what NZ offers that is a significant advantage? The warmest is 24C but only 2 months of the year. Beautiful place to visit perhaps. If you need to flee Australia, then you need to flee NZ also. I was only in Brisbane and up the coast going North back in 1999 just the month before I lost my eye. I was warm enough for me.

Your strength is you are already an Australian citizen. I don't know if you already live in a rural area or can move out there. I'd be liquidating real estate now and moving to $usd (waiting for the coming low in crypto and gold) and renting. You could diversify in gold, crypto, and US stocks after Spring 2016. Then you will accumulate more than enough wealth to do what you need to do in the coming crisis.

Aren't there reasonably good private schools or quaint local community schools in the rural areas for your kids? While they are in elementary school that is probably fine. Before they hit middle school, you'd really benefit from not enrolling them in the city schools or perhaps by that time have found an entirely different country you like and they would be old enough to be more able to watch out for danger.

Hey if you've got a rural place I might come visit you and pay rent. Then you could come visit me if I end up in S.A.. Team work.

If you want to discuss 2nd citizenships, then PM me. Haven't we traded messages before? I've forgotten.

I am also interested in rural Australia, but I don't want to become a resident just now because I don't want an obligation to report my financials to Australia. So if I come to Australia, I want to be a visitor and renting short-term (3 - 6 months).

My problem is I don't know if I can get a tourist visa for my gf. Australia seems to make it very difficult for filipinos? I'd need to go talk to them at the Embassy in Manila. Perhaps they can accept some bond as a guarantee that the pinay will return and not work?

[TPTB_need_war]

Because Australia has ratified the UN Convention on Stateless Persons, then you can not renounce your Australian citizenship unless you are already a dual citizen:

https://www.border.gov.au/Forms/Documents/128.pdf

Whereas, USA citizens can renounce in an embassy and become stateless.

I just discovered this scary information for US citizens:

http://hodgen.com/relinquishing-u-s-citizenship-and-expatriation/

Someone who renounces U.S. citizenship in time of war, with the U.S. Attorney General’s approval, will be considered to have relinquished U.S. citizenship under the Immigration and Nationality Act [see 8 U.S.C. Section 1481(a)(6)] but not under the Internal Revenue Code [see 26 U.S.C. Section 877A(g)(4)].

So if the USA declares war, we US citizens can no longer renounce our US citizenship for IRS tax purposes! Once the USA goes to war (in 2017), you are forever locked in to the USA!

You might want to find out if Australia has a similar clause in their renunciation law.

[OROBTC]

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One of my correspondents (and her family) was from Australia having moved there after Rhodesia became Zimbabwe.  She wanted OUT of Oz for the reasons mentioned above: even greater Socialist tendencies than the USA.

She, last I heard, has settle on PARAGUAY!  Paraguay (which I visited once almost 30 years ago) is a very backwater place, but I thought it was rather tranquil.  I would bet it is CHEAP.  Paraguay's Eastern Chaco region has the cheapest biomass for sale on the planet. Lots of big & remote places (as in no decent road access) are on sale.  WATER is the main problem.  Lots of sun though, good for solar power.

PY is corrupt, but they all are in S. America.  Brazilians are starting to take over (by migration similar to Mexican informal invasion into the USA) the eastern part of the country.

If you want to be left alone, the Paraguayan Chaco is a place you can disappear.

[TPTB_need_war]

OROBTC, as I wrote in my reply to you in the MA thread, Paraguay is good for residency and citizenship, but not for living. Problems with the rebels in the Chaco area. Problems with drugs and crime infestation in the cities. Perhaps it is not as bad as the stories on the internet? (I remember stories on the internet of how bad it was in Mindanao, yet I've been here on and off for 25 years)

The way to live in S.A. is Paraguay citizenship and tourist living in Argentina. Or if you prefer substitute any tax haven citizenship for Paraguay, such as Dominica, Pitcairn island, etc..

If you want a place to escape from crime and do what ever you want (including your guns), then look for a Pacific island to buy. Some of us could pool our resources to do that if we were serious.

Yeah Australia looks like it is being taken over by the Communist Chinese as well, who are buying up the land. And they turned Wikileaks founder Assange over the USA. And they highly regulate guns which is so strange for a country that is mostly wide open farms. But Australia is more first world and safer than S.A. countries (and also incredibly expensive).

[username18333]

You are noisy. Filters applied.

(You should rather censor dissent than reconcile your beliefs thereto?   )

[username18333]

I am seriously considering moving to a more sparsely populated area of the world.

…I have two words: Predator drones.

[trollercoaster]

I have refrained from real estate because of the noosebleed prices here, so I am not bogged down in one place.

I think I will begin looking into small coastal villages far away from any of the major cities, and a secondary citizenship.

Queensland is the biggest police state of all here, so I will probably head more towards South West/gulf area of OZ.

You mentioned upthread about filipinos being eligible for certain S.A citizenships?

They have recently changed the rules for tourist visas here, but increased the bond requirement for "high risk" tourists, my wife would know more about this & i'll ask her

Every cent I have been forced to put towards my retirement is likely going to evaporate, it took a huge hit in 07 and I cannot access it to prevent it's theft ( the government secured our super for themselves to rape and steal )

So I am serious about making the most out of this collapse as I possibly can.

[TPTB_need_war]

You are noisy. Filters applied.

(You should rather censor dissent than reconcile your beliefs thereto?   )

No one is censoring you. We read. But we will ignore when it is too redundant or not adding to the aims of the thread. I am debating you on the theoretical economics over in the Martin Armstrong thread and I think it belongs over there because he is a macro economists guy. Or in the Economic Devastation thread. In this thread, per OROBTC's request, we should strive for ideas about practical solutions not ideological fancy.

I am seriously considering moving to a more sparsely populated area of the world.

…I have two words: Predator drones.

Caves.

Anti-drone technology such as EMI disruption, etc.

Knowledge Age such that TPTB do not know whom to attack. They can just kill everyone then. Not very realistic for them though.

Look if even a 1000 of us are organized and anonymous, we can decide to get pissed off and make a direct attack on Obummer command & control locations. These bastards need to remember the knowledge creation advantage resides with the people and knowledge will be the greatest weapon.

[TPTB_need_war]

I have refrained from real estate because of the noosebleed prices here, so I am not bogged down in one place.

I think I will begin looking into small coastal villages far away from any of the major cities, and a secondary citizenship.

Yeah minimize expenses for a year or two perhaps, so you can try to pour as much money as possible into gold and/or crypto at the coming low in Spring 2016. I don't know how such a move affects your income.

For second citizenship, the least expensive but slow way is probably Paraguay. Or you can just travel to S.A. and have your wife deliver another child there, then you both will become citizens. Again Paraguay and Uruguay are the two countries that don't tax worldwide income. Note all S.A. countries require mandatory military service on your child when he/she is 18 if your child is born in S.A.. Also apparently it is difficult to renounce Argentine citizenship (and perhaps also the others but Brazil seemed to be easier).

Moving to Pitcairn Island is another way to get 2nd citizenship with no taxes. Also any island in French Polynesia.

For $200,000+ it is possible to buy citizenship from Dominica.

The Paraguay citizenship without the delivery of a child there, will take more than 3 years but you won't need to reside there the entire time, just nearer to the end of the 3 year wait, you need to establish a business there and pay some local taxes to show you are sincere about citizenship. And need to learn fluent Spanish. The bearing a child option may be more practical given the urgency we face.

For me, I could just renounce for example in Paraguay or Uruguay and become stateless if I was in a rush. Then wait the 3 years to become a citizen. Australians can't renounce until they have 2nd citizenship, thus you need to move faster to a solution. Note Uruguay apparently only awards citizenship to married foreign couples so thus it is a non-option for me. I refuse to marry again (and I can't now as I am just separated and no divorce yet).

I've been looking for example at land for sale in Argentina. It ranges from as low as $400 per acre ($1000 per ha) for forested ranches > 1000 acres. Note there is a limit on land ownership for a foreigner of 2500 acres except in certain mountainous zones. At the 250 acres range, the prices jump to $1000 per acre. At 15 acres, the prices increase to $4000 per acre (ha = 2.47 acre). There is less expensive land in Paraguay, but apparently rebels have more political clout in Paraguay and Bush family bought huge tracts of land in Paraguay, so something smells fishy and risky to me. Prices will likely decline further as the world's demand for commodities declines in the contagion starting in October. The productive land is much more expensive than the land that is forested, thus clearly land prices are tied to world commodity markets.

Thus it is economically beneficial to purchase a land as a group and then subdivide it so as to economize cost and also to have like minded neighbors to gain economy-of-scale on security.

Any way, I think the threat of crime is nil on these rural areas assuming one institutes basic security such as perimeter warning systems and sufficient males with guns in the community. That is the reason for banding together. I really think some of us should pool our resources if we are in agreement.

S.A. just seems so much more realistic from a cost and tax and inept government perspective.

But then again, maybe renting and staying in a first world country is smarter. It is difficult to ascertain that yet, so that is why having both options is best. Uruguay has visa-free entry into Australia and NZ. But even as a Paraguay citizen, if one has sufficient wealth, they can still get a tourist visa for Australia and NZ.

Your reaction? Thoughts from others?

So my thinking is to remain flexible and to jettison my USA citizenship before the USA declares a state of war officially perhaps in 2018 and thus making renounciation impossible per the US Title code I quoted upthread. Hellary Slimeton rigged election dictatorship will lock the doors and throw away the keys. USA patriots will be stuck there in the land of 1000 paper cuts and 50 nuclear reactors, and potentially fighting the Chinese and Russians on USA soil. I don't know what is going to happen to the USA, but I don't want to be there (nor be forced home by a canceled passport) to find out.

Queensland is the biggest police state of all here, so I will probably head more towards South West/gulf area of OZ.

Yeah I got that impression just from reading the different requirements for home schooling for different states (provinces) of Australia.

Wouldn't that also include NSW and Victoria as I hear Sydney and the Gold Coast are the worst and most expensive?

You mentioned upthread about filipinos being eligible for certain S.A citizenships?

They have recently changed the rules for tourist visas here, but increased the bond requirement for "high risk" tourists, my wife would know more about this & i'll ask her

I would be very grateful if you could share this information with me asap. I may need to go to Australia for a fecal transplant and I'd really prefer to not go alone.

Every cent I have been forced to put towards my retirement is likely going to evaporate, it took a huge hit in 07 and I cannot access it to prevent it's theft ( the government secured our super for themselves to rape and steal )

So I am serious about making the most out of this collapse as I possibly can.

Is there no clever way you can transfer your retirement into for example a gold investment (at $700) and then extract gains? In the USA, there are custodian IRAs are something like that where you can invest in alternative assets. And also penalty fees for taking early dispersements, but you can at least do it.

[username18333]

So my thinking is to remain flexible and to jettison my USA citizenship before the USA declares a state of war officially perhaps in 2018 and thus making renounciation impossible per the US Title code I quoted upthread. Hellary Slimeton rigged election dictatorship will lock the doors and throw away the keys. USA patriots will be stuck there in the land of 1000 paper cuts and 50 nuclear reactors, and potentially fighting the Chinese and Russians on USA soil. I don't know what is going to happen to the USA, but I don't want to be there (nor be forced home by a canceled passport) to find out.

If its film should so enthrall you as to move you to physical procession, your plutocracy should not motivate you thereto through such wanton consumption.

[TPTB_need_war]

Chile is another interesting option. I think we are looking realistically not at a perfect set of choices, thus we must select the least worst.

It is possible to stay in Chile as a tourist for 180 days a year. And foreigners can own land. The land is more expensive than on the other side of the Andes, but it is more of a first world country (but not entirely). Chile does have more risk of earthquakes, volcanos, and La Nina or El Nino excessive rainfall, thus mudslides or drought similar to California. But if one is looking for a step up in terms of modern and more well functioning government, than Chile offers a middle choice.

Also I read that if one prefers residency then it is really easy to obtain if you can prove you have sufficient income/funds and that new residents get a 3 year tax holiday on worldwide income. So this provides an option to live for 3 years without taking citizenship, then you could abandon residency after that.

http://allchile.net/chileforum/viewtopic.php?t=9214

http://ultimateguidetochile.com/expat/the-retirement-and-periodic-income-visa-a-step-by-step-guide-to-permanent-residency/

http://www.sovereignman.com/expat/great-residency-loophole-10944/

Also even if you do get citizenship in say Paraguay or Uruguay, you have no guarantee that these nations won't in the future tax worldwide income. The tax on $100,000 of income in Chile is 15.2%, although one can wonder if it will go higher when the global contagion hits because Chile is somewhat dependent on the copper exports.

Also we have to assume the world axis powers are going to within a decade or two succeed in creating some sort of worldwide tax. So any solution on tax is temporary. We will have needed to be well entrenched in an anonymous Knowledge Age by then.

It seems most important to have a 2nd citizenship option and thus the freedom to travel in this upcoming economic totalitarianism smashup. I don't want to be carrying only a 5 Eyes or EU country passport going into this chaos.

I don't really like the idea of reporting a birth in a S.A. country if I don't need to. You will learn that children and official marriage is one way the State can emasculate and control you.

For me, it seems the most workable plan will be to apply for residency in Paraguay to get the ball rolling on citizenship there. Then I can live on tourist visas where ever I want being careful not to form a residency by physical presence test else where, e.g. Chile, Argentina, and perhaps even forays to SE Asia and Australia/NZ.

Or I could instead locate myself near to Paraguay so I can readily proceed there to renounce US citizenship at any time, while working in the meantime on accumulating more capital to consider purchasing for example Dominica citizenship. So residency instead of tourist could be an option in Chile with this strategy.

Although the Philippines did ratify the UN Convention on Stateless Persons in 2011, I wouldn't want to become stateless here. As I said, Asia is a top-down run "taipan" model and Asians are obedient slaves. And to travel from Philippines not by commercial airline would be somewhat treacherous. At least in S.A., one can head many directions on foot or horseback if need be.

I like a strategy with multiple options so it is a buyers market (I can pick and choose and play the different options).

Thoughts?


P.S. For the first time, I actually had to put someone on ignore. It is against my ethics, but really I don't have the time and my eyes can benefit from less clutter. Sorry. I just can't have further discussions (even after we've all hinted to him to stop doing that hypertheoretical ideological babble in this thread) with a person who lives only in ideological philosophy. I wonder who pays for his food   Probably the socialist EU. Also I sense he is stalking me.

[username18333]

I like a strategy with multiple options so it is a buyers market (I can pick and choose and play the different options).

Thoughts?

It doesn't matter which poison you pick: it's still poison. (I.e., if you do that, you won't have done anything.)

[TPTB_need_war]

Chile looks to be about 3 - 4X more expensive than Ecuador, and here you can see in one of the pics your neighbor is displaying the flag of Texas, lol:

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/2175939?s=89pb

Thus clearly many foreigners going for the Chile option. Again prices will decline next year and every year until 2020 at least, so renting is a better option short-term.

Ecuador presents another opportunity. Put $25,000 in a bank account there (or spend it on land), and you can get permanent residency. Also this accrues towards citizenship. Ecuador is probably safer than Argentina. It is much more socialist and probably do not want to become a citizen there. But in terms of a short-term residency while waiting out the options for citizenship that might work for me. Especially filipinas can fly visa-free to Ecuador (and not to Chile, Argentina, and Paraguay).

I'd prefer to buy citizenship outright from Dominica or St. Kitts, than to take Paraguay citizenship.

Thus I might just be looking at a waiting period. I could wait out in the Philippines where I am already set up with a car and much lower expenses than even Ecuador. The only worry is getting trapped over here. As we move into the crazies. But I am probably overreacting and probably could make it through much of 2016 before needing to leave Philippines. That would give me more time to code uninterrupted.

[TPTB_need_war]

trollercoaster, if you and your wife are not working in Australia, or the amount you are earning is just enough to cover high cost of renting there, and assuming your kids are not yet in elementary school, then perhaps you might want to consider coming to live in the Philippines for the next 6 months to a year in order to lower your expenses.

I rent in a gated subdivision with very high class homes, nice sidewalks, and not too many people roaming about, a 4 bedroom house with 2 bathrooms, fully furnished with airconditioning and a decent kitchen for P15,000 monthly, i.e. $333 per month. My monthly electric bill is roughly $50. My monthly internet bill at this location is $40. Taxis are readily available at the subdivision entrance and roughly $3 - $5 each direction to go any where in city. You'd be bored if you didn't have something to do with yourself on the internet or computer. Your wife might revert to filipino habits. But you could probably tolerate it for up to year, as long as you can have an agreement that no relatives can live in your house (try to live on a different island from the relatives). Note Cebu and other cities are more expensive than Davao. And I shopped around for best price. You might pay $400 for what I have. There are other houses available in the subdivision where I am.

Thus you can see why it doesn't make financial sense for me to move from the Philippines until I am earning an income again. Even Ecuador is more expensive and I don't have a car there.

Again I would not suggest doing this if your kids are already in school, unless you want to live in Bagiuo and send them to Brent private school. Tuition roughly $4000 - $8000 yearly per child. That is a good school. I had my kids there for one year in 2003-4, and they were doing well. Unfortunately I couldn't maintain the cost along with the higher cost of living there (and family leeches) and my SUV was in Mindanao. Baguio has very cold weather during winter time. Rest of the year it can have torrential rain when typhoons pass near the Philippines. Also it is getting overcrowded. Again western quality education is very difficult to locate in the Philippines. Perhaps Siliman in Dumaguette if you want a provincial environment, but actually it still sucks. I spoke to the principal there trying to find a better place for my kids back in the 2007 - 2009 timeframe. Cebu maybe has reasonable schools but a very urban environment and still too much dose of filipino culture. I'd say Brent or nevermind. St. Paul in Davao is reasonable (unfortunately I discovered it too late and it was only recently built). They have good facilities and a small school approach. But still they will expose your kids to too much filipino culture nonsense. It might be acceptable for one year only if the lower elementary grades such as Kinder and 1st. Tuition roughly $1000 yearly per child. It says college but it is really elementary and high school (you know the Philippines and their lack of precision  )



It is located along the Ma-a Riverwalk commercial development:



Again they can give you 6 months extensions now so it can pretty hassle free.

Do not buy a car. When you sell you will lose several $1000s. Or if you do buy, buy the cheapest junk you can tolerate given you don't plan to stay a long time. I bought my SUV new in 2003 and it is still is reasonably good condition.

P.S. Another reason I disfavored Peru, is I read they had a lot of corrupt police and so many checkpoints along the roads in Peru.

[Wexlike]

TBTB, what is your opinion about Canada as an exit possibility ?

[TPTB_need_war]

trollercoaster, here are some houses I viewed in May/June as examples of something in the $222 - $400 range.

Note everything gets rented out here in Davao starting about September through January because filipinos love to entertain relatives for the Christmas holidays. So if you are coming to Philippines, make your contact with these landlords asap. If you select a house in my subdivision, I can spare the time to go inspect it for you, so you could feel safe to reserve it without being here. I am astute as to the issues in the Philippines.

This first one is unfurnished for $222 and is up on the highlands just before Mintal, so it is cooler and breezier up there with a nice view over Mt. Apo. For the time being, you don't have any neighbors to bother you and it is 1 block from the swimming pool and clubhouse. You can get Globe wireless 4G fixed position dish at this location for reasonably good internet but not as reliable and low latency as wired internet that I have at my location. Newly constructed subdivision:

http://olx.ph/item/house-for-rent-bambu-estate-3-bedrooms-2-crs-newly-built-ID4VZBp.html

This is similar to my house and in the same subdivision:

http://olx.ph/item/big-unfurnished-house-for-rent-in-solariega-high-end-subd-talomo-puan-ID6OF54.html

I believe this is the one I viewed where the neighbor is a Korean, which is a nice house but the street is not as wide as in my location yet this is the same subdivision as where I am:

http://olx.ph/item/semi-furnished-house-for-rent-in-exclusive-subd-in-puan-ID6NG6q.html

This is one is closer to downtown and to the large SM mall in Ecoland:

http://olx.ph/item/modern-style-house-and-lot-for-rent-ID6QYRb.html

Another house similar to mine but asking much higher price (note it already has an internet connection, you can surely negotiate with them for a lower price):

http://olx.ph/item/furnished-house-for-rent-in-exclusive-subd-with-internet-and-cable-tv-ID6PP6A.html

If you want to spend $2222 monthly for the view overlooking the city:

http://olx.ph/item/matina-overlooking-house-fully-furnished-ID6MMcP.html

I believe this might be one of those mansions near my house. So this is $3333 monthly. I bet this can be negotiated down to $2500 by offering to pay quarterly:

http://olx.ph/item/house-with-swimming-pool-for-rent-ID6OBLE.html

Do NOT rent in this area (you soon realize why if you waste your time traveling past Buhangin to this area):

http://olx.ph/item/house-in-gated-subdivision-ID4YDrD.html

[trollercoaster]

Thanks TPTB, I am going to start selling off my bulky assets here, which are costly to store and move, and decide from there whether it's more efficient for us to  relocate temporarily to the Philippines or to plan my next move from here.

I think a secondary residency is now my highest priority, they may start making it harder to get if they begin to detect a mass exodus from the west.

If you are considering medical treatment in OZ a medical treatment visa for you and your partner would probably be alot easier to secure than a tourist visa, and no need to lodge a bond.

https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/602-

[TPTB_need_war]

TBTB, what is your opinion about Canada as an exit possibility ?

My experience and knowledge of Canada is limited. My mother lives in Bellingham, Washingston State and I was there in the mid-1990s and did take one trip over the Vancouver. There has been mass migration of whites from California and else where up to the Washington and recently Canada stopped its economic citizenship program for Chinese because there were so many who availed of it. Vancouver is probably highly Chinese by now.

From what I've read, seems that Canadian government is hands off to large extent and the people are more self-reliant outside the cities. We can still say that perhaps about some rural communities in the USA as well, particularly some in West Texas I visited in 2002 and again 2006 (the last time I was in North America).

Personally I am not interested at all in Canada because I vehemently hate cold weather. I can jog in the blistering tropical heat at noon in the Philippines. I grew up in New Orleans in the Deep South. I've lived most of the past 25 years near the equator here in Mindanao.

But if snow and ice are your cup of tea (and especially with a Little Ice Age coming starting 2030 according to scientists, but cooling to worsen 2020+), then it seems to me that Canada offers frontiers to get off the beaten path should it become necessary. I just can't see myself taking off on horseback or foot in the winter into northern Canada. Brrrr.

In terms of being far from war it is probably okay especially if you head north but it gets colder. Note the proximity to all the nuclear reactors in the USA:

Another thing to look out for is where the nuclear plants are located. Believe me following the 1/r^2 rule, you need to be as far as possible.

That Bataan red dot in the Philippines is for a plant that was never operated. I don't even know if there is any nuclear fuel stored there.

I just read today that Argentina has nuclear plants.

In terms of taxation and State cooperation with the G20 enslavement plans, I would expect Canada to be compliant because the populations are concentrated in the cities and are very socialist.

In my way of thinking about priorities to be prepared against potential mad max or F.U.B.A.R. outcomes, the main impact of that implication is that you are holding a 5 Eyes passport and thus your option to travel internationally might be more curtailed. Also your options to do cross border travel clandestinely is limited to crossing the USA border. For me, I am looking a S.A. because there are many borders to cross on horseback and even a wide open Pacific ocean with a huge coastline running from the equator down to Antarctica with habitable islands out there. You've got that a little bit in West Canada, but the brutal cold and Bering Sea and Alaska is not Canada.

If you are good with survival techniques in the snow, then maybe that is for you.

Taxes are I assume high in Canada to pay for all the social welfare. I didn't check. No tax holiday for new residents I assume (e.g. you have massive capital gains in Bitcoin in 2017 and want to cash some out officially to justify your lifestyle to the authorities).

I believe Canada allows rural residents to carry guns, but I don't know about any restrictions. I am ignorant about guns (had a BB gun as a child). My limited reading recently seems to indicate that the best weapon for combat is an AR-15:

http://ferfal.blogspot.com/2014/11/bugging-out-ar15-vs-lever-action-rifle.html

Perhaps OROBTC can comment since he has apparently more experience with guns.

Canada has restricted them except attitudes seem to be more favorable in Alberta and Saskatchewan:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15#Canada

Again we have another example of how much more totalitarian Australia is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15#Australia

Perhaps it is the British influence:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15#United_Kingdom

In Argentina, you can only get a license for an AR-15 with a non-detachable magazine:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation#Argentina

I suppose it might be possible to have a gun with an exchangeable lower and keep a detachable magazine in at all times, and be prepared to swap upon any inspections. That would be illegal of course if you got caught. With a large land area and perimeter warning systems, you could probably insure you can make the swap in time, but then you've got to be sure you can conceal the other lower.

Also it is nearly impossible to a carry permit (outside your ranch) in Argentina unless you are a hired security guard. So if you want security when driving to town, you'd need to hire a professional. But in crisis situations, the police look the other way:

https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=10&f=17&t=670389

I think the above images raise an interesting point-of-view, which is that communities which are accustomed to being self-reliant are more able to deal with extreme situations than communities which have become totally reliant on the government.

So if you are apparently Alberta  and Saskatchewan fit that profile. West Texas and Montana probably fits that profile.

Appears from the Wikipedia page that Chile and nearly all of Asia except the Philippines are very restrictive against gun ownership.

Looking at the following Comparison table:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation#Comparison

it is interesting to note how the USA stands out as the gun owners freedom capital of the world.

So where do you think TPTB will have to apply the most devasting destruction in order to achieve their new world order hegemony?

Majority of the ideological, constitutional gun fanatics are concentrated in the USA. Sure lots of drug guns in Latin America, but those are essentially a boost for TPTB by sending the passive population into the protection of the government.

MA's models predict a breakup of the USA into regions.

Will TPTB back down and declare defeat against the ideological, constitutional gun fanatics are concentrated in the USA? They are smart enough not to fight the strength of the militias. I speculated upthread that they will use divide-and-conquer strategies. Would they go as far as limited nuclear war or allowing nuclear plants to fail in order to make life hell for the militias?

I have just have this gut feeling that the USA is a focal point and some not nice things need to happen there. Why did the Bush family buy a bugout ranch in Paraguay?

I could end up being wrong about the USA, but it is impossible to deny that the strongest constitutional fight remains in the USA. The counter argument is TPTB will go after the lowest hanging fruit first and thus not engage the militias. They did back off at Bundy Ranch for the time being, although Bundy was defeated since then on relevant NV legislation.

If I could be assured of being able to travel internationally to and from the USA, I might be interested to go back there and explore the coming battle. But at this point in my life, I want to be able to travel and experience new adventures and cultures. I am concerned that the USA citizenship is going to end up a trap where you can't easily get out after the SHTF 2018ish. And I am concerned that TPTB are going to dump a shit load of infrastructure and environmental degradation on the USA to try to break it. They won't want to destroy their industrial assets, rather just make life a slow grinding prison-planet hell for those who resist their rule.

P.S. Estonia and Russia appear to have lax firearm rules, if those cultures and environments are your cup of tea. Rpietila's castle is in Estonia, so you could hook up with him.

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trollercoaster, if you want a really cheap place to stay, I have an extra rental I am not using that has 2 very small bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, a nice kitchen, living room, washing machine, sofas, a car park and a large lot up in the hills in a subdivision near Mintal. It is not as modern as the one in the photo, but I only pay P5000 ($111) monthly. I had rented it to put all my junk in it (and if my kids came back to Philippines but they are not coming), but I am planning to give it up in 1.5 more months. You can get a PLDT landline and internet installed there. I inquired.

You can take this from me if you want. No deposit required!

I have another low-quality "chicken shack" rental house up near that one which I am keeping (P3500 monthly) because I have a Globe landline and internet there which I need (faster than PLDT and doesn't block Bitmessage ports).

That is a very cheap way to get started. You are right next to the park with a basketball court and big grass field to play with your kids.

The neighbor there has some noisy roosters. But you can try to convince him to remove them with a little bit of cash perhaps. Nice climate up there, cooler and breezier. You'd need to buy  an aircon. I have electric fans there. There are always taxis available there. Adds about 15 minutes to your travel to downtown.

It is not the nicest house, but it is decent enough so you could take your time looking around at other choices.

If anyone else wants this house before I give it up, let me know. It is not easy to find this sort of deal. I found it by driving around the various subdivisions. You wouldn't find it advertised on the internet.

If I take off to S.A. next year and you stay in Philippines, you could get a great deal on my Isuzu Crosswind diesel SUV. Dark tint, strong aircon and motor. Interior is still like new. Exterior is a bit dinged up (I don't care what my car looks like as long as it works well and is comfortable inside).

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I think a secondary residency is now my highest priority, they may start making it harder to get if they begin to detect a mass exodus from the west.

Residency is not the same as citizenship. Australia still controls you to some extent while you have only 1 passport. I suppose residency could give you some ability to resist for example if Australia canceled your passport, depending where that residency was, e.g. Brazil or Chile might protect you more than Philippines.

Or did you mean 2nd citizenship?

Please see my post in the MA thread about difference in cultures.

I am trying to figure this out for my own goals as well.