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Question: UPDATED:(Native Tor wallet and messaging will still be functional after update for TX's only.It will be phased out completely over a reasonable period of time in order for network tx fees to be reduced further or dynamically.)Who would choose the current
(A)  External Tor client allowing Segwit,CSV and all other soft forks. - 8 (53.3%)
(B)  Native Tor client causing major delays and possible stalemate to signalling Segwit,CSV and all nescessary soft forks etc. - 2 (13.3%)
(C)  I am unsure and will leave it to the developers. - 5 (33.3%)
Total Voters: 15

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November 20, 2017, 09:03:47 PM
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Please vote on poll above.The sooner we get this out of the way the sooner we can get back to work.From a personal point of view I am voting for the first option (A) after having discussions with our developers over the last few weeks.

I can't vote either - however option A sounds better - allowing direct (atomic) swaps with btc would be beneficial.
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November 21, 2017, 09:19:28 AM
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2017-11-21 09:05 UTC

Current Block
457318
Difficulty
0.00024414
Money Supply
103000.11353328
29 connections

Last Price
0.01001600
24hr Change
-2.39%
24hr High
0.01078350
24hr Low
0.00963941
24hr Volume:
44.43322953 BTC / 4331.50411807 XBC
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November 22, 2017, 10:01:47 AM
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2017-11-22 09:54 UTC

Difficulty
POW: 0.01442156
POS: 0.00025358
Coin Supply (XBC)
103028.06750318
457855 blocks
29 connections

Last Price
0.00951810
24hr Change
-5.36%
24hr High
0.01018000
24hr Low
0.00916675
24hr Volume:
22.52724890 BTC / 2325.25707330 XBC
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November 22, 2017, 10:04:19 AM
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Poll will remain open until the 24th of november.
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November 22, 2017, 10:11:19 AM
Last edit: November 23, 2017, 11:23:17 PM by BitcoinPlusBus
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Segwit and CSV and all soft forks are going to be backward compatible so anyone wanting to use the old native tor wallet for their transactions without these updates should still be able to do so.
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November 22, 2017, 01:21:12 PM
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Let's do a hardfork and create two coins:  Bitcoin Plus Segwit & Bitcoin Plus TorCash.  Everyone satisfied.

 Tongue  just kidding, of course.
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I'm not sure myself which way to go is the best. By the way, I don't even know what is 'CSV' and what it entails for the coin's future - if you could explain in a few words.

I sense that the dev team prefer the Segwit road, which could provide for a new, challenging experience and offer new opportunities in the future.
I would tend to support what the team and devs foresee as being the best for XBC.

It's true that it would be a rather unique experiment to have a POS coin with Segwit integration.  
And keeping the old native tor wallet functional and compatible for those who prefer this option could be a reasonable compromise.
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November 22, 2017, 02:18:44 PM
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Let's do a hardfork and create two coins:  Bitcoin Plus Segwit & Bitcoin Plus TorCash.  Everyone satisfied.

 Tongue  just kidding, of course.
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I'm not sure myself which way to go is the best. By the way, I don't even know what is 'CSV' and what it entails for the coin's future - if you could explain in a few words.

I sense that the dev team prefer the Segwit road, which could provide for a new, challenging experience and offer new opportunities in the future.
I would tend to support what the team and devs foresee as being the best for XBC.

It's true that it would be a rather unique experiment to have a POS coin with Segwit integration.  
And keeping the old native tor wallet functional and compatible for those who prefer this option could be a reasonable compromise.


Yes I agree i think think this is the way to go.
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November 22, 2017, 04:27:08 PM
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What for effects on XBC do you expect in the three different results, A, B and C?
Thanks
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November 22, 2017, 07:56:26 PM
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I'm not sure myself which way to go is the best. By the way, I don't even know what is 'CSV' and what it entails for the coin's future - if you could explain in a few words.




CheckSequenceVerify (CSV).

CSV allows users to block selected bitcoins for a specific period of time, resulting in that after this period the coins will be unlocked for transactions. The main difference of CSV protocol from another solution, called CheckLockTimeVerify (CLTV), is that the latter locks coins until a specified moment in time while CSV lock is relative and applies only after the transaction is included in a block. Thus, CSV implementation will provide greater flexibility in transactions and ability to create more advanced smart contracts etc.

It  is set to improve the Bitcoin protocol. For example-a long-awaited fix of transaction malleability.CSV lock is relative and applies only after the transaction is included in a block.As a result CSV implementation gives more flexibility in transactions.

This is useful for Payment Channels which are great for micropayments or for fast payments.
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November 22, 2017, 08:02:39 PM
Last edit: November 23, 2017, 11:21:57 PM by BitcoinPlusBus
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What for effects on XBC do you expect in the three different results, A, B and C?
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Option A will allow us to get to 0.13 version a lot faster than if we were to have to go through various BIPS/refactoring etc due to the complexity of the native coded in Tor part.

Option B will make things a lot more complicated and time consuming causing a heavier workload and excessive spending without a guarantee the work would produce the required end result.There is a possible risk of conflicts and issues down the line also as the codebase is is not vanilla and every further update may require extra work to accomodate the native part etc.

Option C is basically voting for Option A because I can confirm it is the best choice we can make at this stage after many hours of discussions among us all.
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November 23, 2017, 09:55:04 AM
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2017-11-23 09:32 UTC

Difficulty
POW: 0.01442156
POS: 0.00024414
Coin Supply (XBC)
103113.93763739
BTC Price
0.00973204
458408 blocks
30 connections

Last Price
0.00973204
24hr Change
+0.15%
24hr High
0.01008650
24hr Low
0.00950001
24hr Volume:
25.39684541 BTC / 2614.72256675 XBC
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November 24, 2017, 01:28:39 AM
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I was wondering if anyone is able to use the OSX wallet on 10.10.5 or higher ?
which version of OSX was the wallet compiled on Huh  Huh
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November 24, 2017, 04:34:35 AM
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I was wondering if anyone is able to use the OSX wallet on 10.10.5 or higher ?
which version of OSX was the wallet compiled on Huh  Huh


Yep no problems with it here. I'm on 10.12.6 and running Bitcoin Plus 2.6 no problem, for quite a while now.

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November 24, 2017, 07:45:10 AM
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XBC has a "terrifying" potential. It can very well rise up to $10,000 or more!!!  Shocked
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November 24, 2017, 07:55:52 AM
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XBC has a "terrifying" potential. It can very well rise up to $10,000 or more!!!  Shocked

you mean because the current circulating supply is only 103,000 XBC ?

Actually, if Bitcoin Plus were worth 1% of Bitcoin Cash, at today's valuation that would bring it to $2683
it is currently trading for $79...
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November 24, 2017, 08:30:32 AM
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I think it would be healthy for this coin to be on at least one other Real exchange such as Bittrex
Cryptopia being the  "potpourri" of the crypto sphere IMO.

I'v always heard listing a coin on Poloniex is harder than doing so on Bittrex, I think the listing fee is 1 BTC there.

any thought on this ?  Roll Eyes
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November 24, 2017, 08:36:18 AM
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I saw that the price of the cryptopia suddenly went up a lot yesterday, and then it went down, and at the same time polo prices were not moving, feeling that the two markets were separated.
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November 24, 2017, 09:06:29 AM
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I saw that the price of the cryptopia suddenly went up a lot yesterday, and then it went down, and at the same time polo prices were not moving, feeling that the two markets were separated.

Yes, XBC went above 0.03 on Cryptopia, but nobody took it seriously, that is why another real listing could be interesting.  Grin
ps; trading bots have a lot if impact on low volume coins @ Poloniex
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November 24, 2017, 10:39:12 AM
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2017-11-24 10:31 UTC

Difficulty
POW: 0.01442156
POS: 0.0002594
Coin Supply (XBC)
103136.68064845
458921 blocks
30 connections

Last Price
0.00958151
24hr Change
-0.81%
24hr High
0.00991098
24hr Low
0.00950001
24hr Volume:
17.72841123 BTC / 1832.90005446 XBC
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November 24, 2017, 10:45:45 AM
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I think it would be healthy for this coin to be on at least one other Real exchange such as Bittrex
Cryptopia being the  "potpourri" of the crypto sphere IMO.

I'v always heard listing a coin on Poloniex is harder than doing so on Bittrex, I think the listing fee is 1 BTC there.

any thought on this ?  Roll Eyes

Cryptopia and coinexchange are fine.Many users are having major issues with Bittrex and they also want an upfront $10K fee to cover whatever they imagine are checks without any guarantee of a listing.Thats a non starter.HiBTC are having issues and livecoin want around $24k for a listing with bitcoin at these prices.Poloniex are our primary exchange and we never had any issues for many years now.It speaks for itself.We do continuously update exchanges with our developments but its up to them if they want to list us.Next big thing will be decentralized exchanges so thats the way we want to go.Decentralized exchanges have many advantages unlike some centralized exchanges who can freeze steal peoples coins without warning or go bust overnight
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