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June 25, 2022, 02:01:47 PM
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At Anfield, Divock Origi has always been a key player who got lucky when Liverpool needed an important goal. Divock Origi's playing minutes at Liverpool are relatively few compared to other players like the trio of Salah, Mane and Diogo Jota as you have said.
Actually happy that Ibrahimovic is still able to compete in the big league series A. At 40 years old he can still take advantage of the advantages he has, even though he doesn't run much he is quite effective at creating chances for himself or friends. Milan may have been worried about his age and injury, that's why they bought Origi to replace him next season. Even though I haven't seen a lot of performances, I think he only got enough playing time. Maybe with his move to Milan, he can show his best abilities. Hopefully he can adapt quickly.

I don't think Ibrahimovic will retire right now. Maybe he didn't score too many goals last season. He scored only 8 goals. However, if he is with the team, the players of the team are more confident. And remains stress-free. As a result, the overall performance of the team is very good. AC Milan may have picked Divock Origi to replace Ibra, but we may occasionally see Ibra on the field.

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June 25, 2022, 02:15:17 PM
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It was confirmed by AC Milan some time ago and in the near future he will be ready to return to the field. The confirmation give by Milan is that it will take at least 7 to 8 months for Ibrahimovic to recover after undergoing surgery on his left knee. Instead I'm more worried that his contract at Milan will end soon, Milan still hasn't given any clues regarding the extension of Ibrahimovic's contract. But even though Milan have no intention of extending it, several clubs are willing to invite him to play
AC Milan respected what Ibrahimovic has done for them and they are treating Ibrahimovic very well. Ibrahimovic can stay in the club, can retire or can move to another club. AC Milan don't reject to allow him to stay. It is their respect and fairness only. Ibrahimovic at his age and his latest injuries has his serious serious issues. He no longer has his best health and his time is counting down. I know if Ibra is healthy, he can make Ibracada and score amazing goals.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic lifted the scudetto with AC Milan this season, it may be his last because Zlatan is aging and has clock his 40 which makes him the oldest player in AC Milan 2021/2022 campaign. Zlatan have many titles to his gallery and he's still looking for a contract extension with the Rossoneri but talks have not been open yet. Milan boss, Stefano Pioli is still in pursuit of new players in the transfer window. He has already added Divock Origi from Liverpool, the new attacker is always lucky infront of goals despite his unregular starts in Liverpool games.
Even Ibra contribution is small because he missed of the last match because of months with injuries, his strong mentality contributes to his young team mates. They have been growing up in last 3 seasons with lot of inspiration from Ibrahimovic. We see how they celebrated their Scudetto and how they respected Ibrahomic.

Divock Origi is not actually a too good striker. His career so far shows it and he is not at the top class level as Ibrahimovic

Actually happy that Ibrahimovic is still able to compete in the big league series A. At 40 years old he can still take advantage of the advantages he has, even though he doesn't run much he is quite effective at creating chances for himself or friends. Milan may have been worried about his age and injury, that's why they bought Origi to replace him next season. Even though I haven't seen a lot of performances, I think he only got enough playing time. Maybe with his move to Milan, he can show his best abilities. Hopefully he can adapt quickly.
AC Milan and Serie A are good for old players. Matches there don't require too much fighting face to face, not mainly based on strength or speed of players. They are a league that prioritizes tactics. Their Catenaccio tactic is one of the most famous and has many decades but still has good effects in modern football.

I hope that Ibrahimovic will win Champions League next season with AC Milan too. Then he can retire as a legend.

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June 25, 2022, 02:55:52 PM
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I also believe that there is no harm in staying at Milan for Zlatan now. I don't expect him to score so many goals too. He is already helping the team by leading them nicely. Milan don't seem to have problems with his being here. Milan should just focus on bringing at least one striker now. They are desperately in need of this because Giroud and Zlatan can't carry the goal load of the team. They need a very capable striker and it would be great if he is much younger too.

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June 25, 2022, 03:39:50 PM
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Zlatan Ibrahimović is now over 40 years old. It is admirable that he has been able to maintain such extraordinary fitness even at this age. But I would also say that he should retire next season. Because now it will be difficult for him to compete with young players. And he will be more likely to get injured. And his performance will continue to get worse. And so I think it would be more honourable for Zlatan to retire with good form.
Despite his advance age he stills  performs like a young star , Ibrahimovic is such a talented player that plays a very vital role to his team. He may not be playing games often due to injury he develops,  next season may likely not go well for him to play back to back and it can also be like this till he retires.

For him to perform greatly at the premier league aged 38, I knew indeed he is a special player with great potential.
Like you said he is currently nursing an injury which he had last season.
I hope to see him soon during the pre- season game's.
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June 25, 2022, 03:54:21 PM
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I think that Dzeko and Giroud are similar strikers now. Their performances were not too different from each other last season but Dzeko was still one step ahead of course. They are both strikers who can be seen as old but they can still be helpful for their teams. Giroud was actually not this much effective in the former season but coming to Milan helped him a lot. However I don't expect Milan and Inter both to be willing to make them their main strikers for next season. This must be why Milan and Inter are trying for signing strikers.

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June 25, 2022, 04:15:14 PM
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It's true I'm not sure he'll be back anytime soon, even within 8 months of his recovery. But if he comes back after so long and decides to keep playing I think that would be great. I wonder will he give up on what he is going through right now and decide to hang up his boots now? Well, we'll just have to wait and see what decision he will make.
For his performance, of course, he will not be able to return to his best, especially now that he is 41 years old, but AC Milan still needs him because he can be a leader for other young players to increase the spirit and mentality of young players.
in terms of performance last season, he couldn't play well anymore, especially now that he's injured, it's not easy for a player to return to his best form after an injury, especially for players who are over 40 years old, that's a very old age for him. soccer player.
At least even if he doesn't have the performance like before but to be on the side of the field and provide support and direction is something good for him at this time, because indeed for performance he will not be able to return given his age but his role in providing motivation to the team. young players make this more of an encouragement in my opinion.
On the other hand, his contract also lasts until the end of this season and I still feel that this is Zlatan's last season so it's not wrong to give his best performance for the rest of the season when he recovers.

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June 25, 2022, 04:31:39 PM
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For him to perform greatly at the premier league aged 38, I knew indeed he is a special player with great potential.
Like you said he is currently nursing an injury which he had last season.
I hope to see him soon during the pre- season game's.
The champions league should be eyed by him
I think Zlatan Ibrahimović should have reached the age of 40 by now, and that age in my opinion is old enough to play football, whereas if you look at the many new players who are young and enter the premier league who are successful achieved many goals and beat old players like Ibrahimović, Ibra should have prepared his time when it was time to retire and enjoy his old age maybe as a coach in several football clubs.

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June 25, 2022, 04:55:29 PM
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I also believe that there is no harm in staying at Milan for Zlatan now. I don't expect him to score so many goals too. He is already helping the team by leading them nicely. Milan don't seem to have problems with his being here. Milan should just focus on bringing at least one striker now. They are desperately in need of this because Giroud and Zlatan can't carry the goal load of the team. They need a very capable striker and it would be great if he is much younger too.
Divock Origi has been brought in by Milan for next season so Milan does not to need a capable striker anymore because there are already many players on the attack line, Milan needs a midfielder who can provide more assists. The latest news is Hakim Ziyech wants to be sold by Chelsea and Milan is ready to open up space for this player, hopefully his career will improve at Milan and even then if that happens.

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June 25, 2022, 05:33:58 PM
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Actually happy that Ibrahimovic is still able to compete in the big league series A. At 40 years old he can still take advantage of the advantages he has, even though he doesn't run much he is quite effective at creating chances for himself or friends. Milan may have been worried about his age and injury, that's why they bought Origi to replace him next season. Even though I haven't seen a lot of performances, I think he only got enough playing time. Maybe with his move to Milan, he can show his best abilities. Hopefully he can adapt quickly.
Not easy reach 40 years old and Zlatan Ibrahimovic still part of Milan become the winner of Serie A last season, although he don't get regular position but Milan coach still believing with Ibrahimovic. Maybe next season not any change with how ofter regular position getting by Ibrahimovic and looks he keeps stay on bench as substitutes player. He can motivates young player on Milan and keep become leader for all Milan player exactly with young player.

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June 25, 2022, 05:50:32 PM
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Yeah, here is exactly my problem. I don't see any urgency from them. They are the title holders right now and they have to do some lead changes in the team otherwise they are not going to be able to depend there on the title successfully. You know, the other teams which can potentially challenge them for the title are Juventus and Inter. They are making changes and quite big changes I have to say in the team. I want to see this type of urgency from Milan so that they have a good chance of defending the league title.
The slow movement of AC Milan in bringing in players in this summer window has indeed caught everyone's attention because AC Milan as the defending champions last season has not yet brought in a single player, even their target defender Sven Botman officially anchored to Newcastle United due to the slow movement of AC Milan. Renato Sanchez still has no bright spot from AC Milan interest I think They will also reap failure again to get Renato sanchez.

Probably they have their own way to do everything and that's why they are not showing any agency right now. But for me even if this is a strategy it is not convincing at all.

Here is a link where a lot of news about the Milan transfer can be found.
Link- https://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Serie+A/AC+Milan

They have already lost Sven Botman. I think they will also not be able to get the other targeted players if they keep on going at a pace like this. They have to go all-in if they want to get a player. I also think Renato Sanches's deal might not work out positively for them.

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June 25, 2022, 06:11:45 PM
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I would say the "legend status" is a little bit overused at Anfield Smiley But it is because Klopp has a pretty strong character and he doesn't talk bad about any player when they leave. He even fiercely protected Karius back at the time when he failed twice big time in the CL final against Madrid.

I think that is a good way to behave. Soccer is business after all and everyone involved should know that.

Think about the new contract of Mbappe in Paris: everyone was screaming at him because he didn't go to Real Madrid. But let's be real, if someone puts a case with 300 million just as a signing fee in front of your eyes, what would you do?

So Origi is indeed an interesting player as he has good statistics in terms time played : scorer points ratio. He can definitely be a good addition to any team. Coming to another club with a "legend status" can't hurt Wink

Ha, I sort of agree and disagree. Maybe take out what Klopp might say (he speaks from the heart but I don't recall him ever saying legend and Karius in the same sentence haha) and no, we don't always label people here and there.

But Liverpool (or should I say Anfield) does have a way of conferring their love for the best-loved players... cult heroes I can call them, who don't necessarily achieve much, but play with heart. No one will be able to say, for example, Igor Biscan was a legendary player, but he was loved (and  I too!)... and certain of his place in Anfield lore. Cult favourite, he even had a nickname Zinedine Biscan haha but man, he played his heart out against United and Arsenal... and you know Anfield will love you forever for that.

As for Origi: cult favourite, hero for sure. But I do think of him as a legend as well, simply for some extremely defining moments such as the 2 goals against Barcelona? And the way the goals were scored? Wow, that goal is replayed a hundred times. And his header against Everton in the final moment to keep our hopes alive for the title? Wow. One from an amazing corner from Trent, the other from some crazy punt from VVD. And again last December against Wolves, 0-1 Liverpool injury time goal from Origi... and Klopp apparently told him on substituting him in: "Just be Divock".

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June 25, 2022, 07:09:52 PM
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I think that Dzeko and Giroud are similar strikers now. Their performances were not too different from each other last season but Dzeko was still one step ahead of course. They are both strikers who can be seen as old but they can still be helpful for their teams. Giroud was actually not this much effective in the former season but coming to Milan helped him a lot. However I don't expect Milan and Inter both to be willing to make them their main strikers for next season. This must be why Milan and Inter are trying for signing strikers.

Both of the clubs know that deals to players are not young in any sense. That is why some changes need to be made. Don't get me wrong, they are still very capable strikers. But at this age, everyone starts to question a player's ability and it is true that at this stage of a player's career he cannot be relied upon with everything.

So, it is good that they will be playing for the team but it is also important that a team does not think about everything emotionally and take the necessary steps that are needed for bringing the results. I think that is what the clubs are doing and it is definitely the right move. The question is which players are they interested in?

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June 25, 2022, 08:31:17 PM
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I also read this in one of the news stories which said that the healing process would take a long time even until the end of 2022 or even in the early months of 2023.
But with his contract running for another year maybe this season he won't be able to do much in my opinion apart from the condition of his left knee now he is also 41 years old which makes this should be the last season of his career in my opinion.
Too much talk about Ibrahimović as he is one of legendary players in current soccer community with 41 years of age and trying to give his best but now with current injury as we all know it's not easy for him to be back in playing condition with this most chances we will not able to watch him playing soccer because he is under treatment, and it's going to take very long time which is not good enough for this 41 years old player.

But, good thing happen he ends his career with title of AC Milan which is surely great achievement for him, and he can feel proud about this and his hard work for this win. If he could be lucky then surely we have some chances that we will be able to watch him in 2023 in few matches which are going to end his career at high note but right now nothing is sure as his injury is also very serious.
Next season looks like it will be the last season for Ibrahimovic because apart from his old age, he is also now faced with a serious injury like now, it would be better at the end of this season he will even only play a few times because when the injury was old would obviously give enough worry to him too. But indeed next season he must remain on the sidelines after he recovers because with him young players can be more motivated.

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June 25, 2022, 08:35:46 PM
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I have the idea that the level of the Italian teams has secretly gone down a bit if you compare it with other European top competitions. You used to have AC Milan and Juventus who always had a chance to go far in the Champions League. AC Milan will now go to the Champions League, but the group stage will presumably be the final station. Juventus has something to do to restore its reputation. Last year they lost so many points before the winter break that they did not even have a 1% chance of becoming champions anymore. in theory maybe, but AC Milan and Inter were a long way off for the winter. However, a logical explanation for Juventus' failure has not yet been identified.

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Next season looks like it will be the last season for Ibrahimovic because apart from his old age, he is also now faced with a serious injury like now, it would be better at the end of this season he will even only play a few times because when the injury was old would obviously give enough worry to him too. But indeed next season he must remain on the sidelines after he recovers because with him young players can be more motivated.

It's true that Ibrahimovic is just for motivating young players or for marketing purposes while his contribution to the team is not really needed. Ibrahimovic could leave as a player next season but he could be part of Milan's management, after all Ibrahimovic was once a symbol for Milan.

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June 25, 2022, 08:56:43 PM
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I would say the "legend status" is a little bit overused at Anfield Smiley But it is because Klopp has a pretty strong character and he doesn't talk bad about any player when they leave. He even fiercely protected Karius back at the time when he failed twice big time in the CL final against Madrid.

I think that is a good way to behave. Soccer is business after all and everyone involved should know that.

Think about the new contract of Mbappe in Paris: everyone was screaming at him because he didn't go to Real Madrid. But let's be real, if someone puts a case with 300 million just as a signing fee in front of your eyes, what would you do?

So Origi is indeed an interesting player as he has good statistics in terms time played : scorer points ratio. He can definitely be a good addition to any team. Coming to another club with a "legend status" can't hurt Wink
Seriously, Origi is definitely not a "legend" in Liverpool at all, he was not even like used as a starter most of the time, he was only there for replacing players that needed resting, and even during a brief period when he was really good, that wasn't really a legend deal at all. In the end, there is just one name I can think of that became a real legend and will stay a legend unless something marginal happens and that is Salah.

Even after Mane left, Salah is still there and if he stays there for a few more years, then he will become a club legend for sure. It's going to be probably a hard thing to become a club legend if you are a player of Klopp, because he likes to get players for rotation and change the line up constantly.
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This is something that is quite good now because indeed in the previous season when he was transferred from MU to Inter also in almost the same condition because indeed he was struggling at that time and even he said that his career at MU failed but when he was at Inter he found the touch is back and looks prime here.
It would be a good thing if he did something like this now and I still have a lot of faith in Lukaku especially in Serie A.
Premier League is a tough League. Although, Lukaku is still a good player, but is obvious that he can't succeed in the Premier League. He failed as a player when he was In Manchester United, and also had a terrible performance last season in Chelsea. I think it will basically be a great decision if he gets transferred back to Inter. However, According to report, Chelsea have agreed to loan him out to Inter. Therefore, he will probably be playing in Serie A next season.
As far as I know it has happened and Lukaku is now back at Inter after being loaned on conditional terms by Chelsea for 1 season.
For the EPL, it is quite difficult but there are several factors there that make it difficult for Lukaku to develop because if you see him failing, it is only at big clubs like Chelsea and Manchester United but he has succeeded at Everton.
Maybe he couldn't keep up with the games from big teams like Chelsea and MU so he failed to shine there but in contrast to Everton, which incidentally they are still a team that is in the middle of the board.

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I have the idea that the level of the Italian teams has secretly gone down a bit if you compare it with other European top competitions. You used to have AC Milan and Juventus who always had a chance to go far in the Champions League. AC Milan will now go to the Champions League, but the group stage will presumably be the final station. Juventus has something to do to restore its reputation. Last year they lost so many points before the winter break that they did not even have a 1% chance of becoming champions anymore. in theory maybe, but AC Milan and Inter were a long way off for the winter. However, a logical explanation for Juventus' failure has not yet been identified.
Serie A dropped a lot many years ago, La Liga dropped lately and EPL became the most attractive one by far due to the quality of teams, players and the games themselves.
Getting back Serie A to what it used to be will will require a lot of investment and dedication. They have to build or find a new generation of players with top qualities that will make the Italian teams competitive.. trying to catch top experienced players will be hard due to the lack of funding and the competition from the other rich teams.

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June 25, 2022, 09:38:59 PM
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Seriously, Origi is definitely not a "legend" in Liverpool at all, he was not even like used as a starter most of the time, he was only there for replacing players that needed resting, and even during a brief period when he was really good, that wasn't really a legend deal at all. In the end, there is just one name I can think of that became a real legend and will stay a legend unless something marginal happens and that is Salah.

Even after Mane left, Salah is still there and if he stays there for a few more years, then he will become a club legend for sure. It's going to be probably a hard thing to become a club legend if you are a player of Klopp, because he likes to get players for rotation and change the line up constantly.
His status at Liverpool is only a rotational player and it's not really appropriate to say that he is a legend Cheesy But maybe now he will be one of the pillars at Milan, because Milan is currently in crisis for the striker position especially Zlatan is injured.
Btw for Mane I will probably include him in one of the legends list there. The latest news is currently a lot of information that says that Salah will follow Mane's footsteps to leave Liverpool.

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June 25, 2022, 09:59:27 PM
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Next season looks like it will be the last season for Ibrahimovic because apart from his old age, he is also now faced with a serious injury like now, it would be better at the end of this season he will even only play a few times because when the injury was old would obviously give enough worry to him too. But indeed next season he must remain on the sidelines after he recovers because with him young players can be more motivated.
It's true that Ibrahimovic is just for motivating young players or for marketing purposes while his contribution to the team is not really needed. Ibrahimovic could leave as a player next season but he could be part of Milan's management, after all Ibrahimovic was once a symbol for Milan.
Yep. His contribution is needed but not to be the player anymore. He can help the club for marketing purposes, suggesting the tactics (coach assistant), being a scout, or other things. Ibrahimovic is a famous player and he has a lot of experience, he will be very helpful for AC Milan future. Anyway, I am sure that he can be a coach in the future, he can start this new career by being a coach assistant at AC Milan. And he also should take special education about coaching. So, he can be a charismatic coach in the future.


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