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July 16, 2022, 09:35:50 AM
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Maybe this will be a new chapter in the rumors of where de Ligt will go. I actually just found out that Bayern Munich are also interested in de Ligt.
Rumors about de Ligt have become a hot ball that until now there is no certainty which club really expects him and officially came to the table with a proposal. I myself thought a little about him staying here.
Basically, the high transaction value set by Juventus is what makes Matthijs de Ligt still at Juventus, if Juventus only set a low price then of course Matthijs de Ligt would have left sooner. Juventus still hopes for Matthijs de Ligt to stay for at least one more season, but if Bayern Munich are willing to pay the price Juventus wants then why not, of course we will see Matthijs de Ligt really leave. Because of the player's own wishes, basically Matthijs de Ligt really wanted to leave, but at the same time Juventus still really hoped for him to stay, so it's no wonder this transaction is still being discussed.
Juventus is too pushy even though the price offered by Bayern is actually very large.
But indeed this is quite reasonable considering that Juventus actually don't want to lose De Ligt for next season even though it's true if I see De Ligt is not developing too much in Juventus' play.
Now it's just a matter of waiting for the money who is in charge at this time to sign De Ligt because I still believe that Juventus will not be able to keep De Ligt who wants to leave.
According to one news portal, Matthijs de Ligt has accepted Bayern Munich's offer but as before, Juventus do want a high price for this player. A club as big as Bayern Munich will basically have no trouble fulfilling Juventus' wishes. Moreover, Bayern Munich will also get fresh funds after releasing Lewandowski. That way, Matthijs de Ligt's transfer transaction will only wait for time, just imagine that Barcelona, which is in financial difficulty, finally managed to recruit Lewandowski after long negotiations. So, in the case of Matthijs de Ligt, Bayern Munich is only trying to get a lower price to reduce spending, but in the end this transaction will certainly be completed as well.

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July 16, 2022, 10:22:47 AM
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According to one news portal, Matthijs de Ligt has accepted Bayern Munich's offer but as before, Juventus do want a high price for this player. A club as big as Bayern Munich will basically have no trouble fulfilling Juventus' wishes. Moreover, Bayern Munich will also get fresh funds after releasing Lewandowski. That way, Matthijs de Ligt's transfer transaction will only wait for time, just imagine that Barcelona, which is in financial difficulty, finally managed to recruit Lewandowski after long negotiations. So, in the case of Matthijs de Ligt, Bayern Munich is only trying to get a lower price to reduce spending, but in the end this transaction will certainly be completed as well.
Juve until now still have not confirmed the offer from Bayern is because the amount offered is equivalent to that offered by Chelsea to Juve for a transfer de ligt. but it all came back to the decision of de ligt because he also insisted on joining Bayern instead of Chelsea. actually, de ligt is a very good defender and is suitable for juve but it seems with high price offers from other clubs, Juve must be willing to let him go.

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July 16, 2022, 11:26:58 AM
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According to one news portal, Matthijs de Ligt has accepted Bayern Munich's offer but as before, Juventus do want a high price for this player. A club as big as Bayern Munich will basically have no trouble fulfilling Juventus' wishes. Moreover, Bayern Munich will also get fresh funds after releasing Lewandowski. That way, Matthijs de Ligt's transfer transaction will only wait for time, just imagine that Barcelona, which is in financial difficulty, finally managed to recruit Lewandowski after long negotiations. So, in the case of Matthijs de Ligt, Bayern Munich is only trying to get a lower price to reduce spending, but in the end this transaction will certainly be completed as well.

Really, how much value did Bayern Munich offer Juventus to bring Matthijs de Ligt?
Because I search several media I didn't see the value offered by Munich, apart from the Transfermarkt media which provided information about the market value but not the value offered by Bayern Munich which might be of interest to Juventus.
Talking about Lewandowski's future, Barcelona have already get his replacement, Raphinha for over $60 million, so I don't think they will prioritize Lewandowski again.

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July 16, 2022, 11:33:38 AM
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I think Napoli looking for business and profitable with Koulibaly transfer to Chelsea reach above 40 million euro, not bad price for Koulibaly still on the top level as great defwnder for Napoli and have been 31 year old, keep extended Koulibaly one seaaon later I think have drop values and Napoli can't sell Koulibaly above 40 milion euro. Although very sad because Napoli not easy looking for replacement position leaving by Koulibaly actually he has been important olayer for Napoli last several season. Koulibally will begin new challenge with Chelsea and looks will get regular defender poaition depending how keep consistent performance or not.
I agree that they have the money for it, but there is a new wave in football where teams are trying to make a profit. I have zero clue why it's like that, but the greatest ever in history example is Dortmund for example. They sold Sancho last year and made a great chunk of money, but they didn't spend it at all, they might have spent it somewhere else but they didn't bought players at those prices at least.

This year they sold Haaland that much and they made a ton of money again, and yet not buying any players again. They may end up selling that midfielder English kid to a lot of money too, forgot his name, but not buying anyone. Napoli may do something similar, gain a ton of money, but spend it in operational stuff or debt repayment or something like that, and not players.
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July 16, 2022, 12:03:51 PM
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Juve until now still have not confirmed the offer from Bayern is because the amount offered is equivalent to that offered by Chelsea to Juve for a transfer de ligt. but it all came back to the decision of de ligt because he also insisted on joining Bayern instead of Chelsea. actually, de ligt is a very good defender and is suitable for juve but it seems with high price offers from other clubs, Juve must be willing to let him go.
Yes you are right, maybe the decision is now in the hands of de Ligt considering the amount offered by Chelsea and Bayern Munich is still the same, except that both clubs offer a higher price. But on the other hand I want to hear what Juventus have to say about this player, because until now I have not heard anything that I can draw conclusions from.

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July 16, 2022, 02:03:44 PM
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Napoli may do something similar, gain a ton of money, but spend it in operational stuff or debt repayment or something like that, and not players.

Today business is the main thing. Napoli already has such an orientation, as long as the club is financially healty it doesn't matter. They are famous for producing quality players, they often buy several potential players at low prices. After that they sold it at a pretty high price. Indeed, I heard they just bought 3 new players, Khvicha Kvaratskhelia, Mathias Olivera, and Andre Zambo Anguissa. All three are less than 40 million euros.

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July 16, 2022, 02:08:22 PM
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Napoli may do something similar, gain a ton of money, but spend it in operational stuff or debt repayment or something like that, and not players.

Today business is the main thing. Napoli already has such an orientation, as long as the club is financially healty it doesn't matter. They are famous for producing quality players, they often buy several potential players at low prices. After that they sold it at a pretty high price. Indeed, I heard they just bought 3 new players, Khvicha Kvaratskhelia, Mathias Olivera, and Andre Zambo Anguissa. All three are less than 40 million euros.

That's no lie but who is to replace Koullibaly they just sold to Chelsea ?
And for Juventus I have not seen any replacement for de Ligt if he finally leaves.
If they don't replace him their will be problem else they have other options.
De ligt has accepted Bayern Munich already.

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July 16, 2022, 02:19:48 PM
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Zlatan Ibrahimovic is likely to be signed by Milan again according to some news. I assume that it would be a one-year deal. Zlatan is still ambitious about playing professional football despite his age. He is still very strong also. He is injured for a long time though and he would most likely be able to play after the first half of the season passes. I wasn't expecting this deal so early because of his lasting injury actually. But this is only a rumour for now of course.

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According to one news portal, Matthijs de Ligt has accepted Bayern Munich's offer but as before, Juventus do want a high price for this player. A club as big as Bayern Munich will basically have no trouble fulfilling Juventus' wishes. Moreover, Bayern Munich will also get fresh funds after releasing Lewandowski. That way, Matthijs de Ligt's transfer transaction will only wait for time, just imagine that Barcelona, which is in financial difficulty, finally managed to recruit Lewandowski after long negotiations. So, in the case of Matthijs de Ligt, Bayern Munich is only trying to get a lower price to reduce spending, but in the end this transaction will certainly be completed as well.
Try to use keyword with De Ligt to Bayern Munich but not find anything with new update except news last three days, I think looks not have chance with de Ligt move to Bayern Munich for next season, according still not any confirmed yet from Juventus and believe with de Ligt keep stay with Juventus for next season. Looking with central defender position, Juventus not have many option if try sell de Ligt to Bayern Munich, have loss Chiellini last season and not extended contract I think bad choose if ty selling de Ligt, Juventus failed to get Koulibaly sign and looks not trying to sell de Ligt before getting who will replace position leaving.

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July 16, 2022, 03:14:18 PM
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According to one news portal, Matthijs de Ligt has accepted Bayern Munich's offer but as before, Juventus do want a high price for this player. A club as big as Bayern Munich will basically have no trouble fulfilling Juventus' wishes. Moreover, Bayern Munich will also get fresh funds after releasing Lewandowski. That way, Matthijs de Ligt's transfer transaction will only wait for time, just imagine that Barcelona, which is in financial difficulty, finally managed to recruit Lewandowski after long negotiations. So, in the case of Matthijs de Ligt, Bayern Munich is only trying to get a lower price to reduce spending, but in the end this transaction will certainly be completed as well.
Try to use keyword with De Ligt to Bayern Munich but not find anything with new update except news last three days, I think looks not have chance with de Ligt move to Bayern Munich for next season, according still not any confirmed yet from Juventus and believe with de Ligt keep stay with Juventus for next season. Looking with central defender position, Juventus not have many option if try sell de Ligt to Bayern Munich, have loss Chiellini last season and not extended contract I think bad choose if ty selling de Ligt, Juventus failed to get Koulibaly sign and looks not trying to sell de Ligt before getting who will replace position leaving.
The price set by Juventus is indeed too high so it is quite difficult to see De Ligt moving in realization at this time.
But actually Juventus can still release De Ligt but the price they apply clearly exceeds the expectations of Bayern for now.
In the end it's like you said it all goes back to gray and the possibility of a transfer here won't happen.

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July 16, 2022, 03:18:54 PM
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Zlatan Ibrahimovic is likely to be signed by Milan again according to some news. I assume that it would be a one-year deal. Zlatan is still ambitious about playing professional football despite his age. He is still very strong also. He is injured for a long time though and he would most likely be able to play after the first half of the season passes. I wasn't expecting this deal so early because of his lasting injury actually. But this is only a rumour for now of course.
Didn't they get an agreement to keep working together for one year? That's the news I heard some time ago, that they were back to work together but the contract was split in two, because of the injury he suffered. Reportedly the costs to be incurred by AC Milan will be different, the first and second half of the season. That's what I've heard so far.

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July 16, 2022, 03:41:35 PM
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Try to use keyword with De Ligt to Bayern Munich but not find anything with new update except news last three days, I think looks not have chance with de Ligt move to Bayern Munich for next season, according still not any confirmed yet from Juventus and believe with de Ligt keep stay with Juventus for next season. Looking with central defender position, Juventus not have many option if try sell de Ligt to Bayern Munich, have loss Chiellini last season and not extended contract I think bad choose if ty selling de Ligt, Juventus failed to get Koulibaly sign and looks not trying to sell de Ligt before getting who will replace position leaving.
I think Bayern are very ambitious to sign De Ligt from Juventus because Bayern have just sold Lewandowski and they are getting additional funds from the sale of Lewandowski. Even the famous football expert @fabrizioRomano through his latest tweet, Bayern will send a new offer to Juventus regarding their interest in De Ligt. I can't predict Juventus will reject the latest offer from Bayern. Surely they will eventually accept an offer from Bayern, like the problem between Bayern and Barcelona.

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July 16, 2022, 06:07:03 PM
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Juve until now still have not confirmed the offer from Bayern is because the amount offered is equivalent to that offered by Chelsea to Juve for a transfer de ligt. but it all came back to the decision of de ligt because he also insisted on joining Bayern instead of Chelsea. actually, de ligt is a very good defender and is suitable for juve but it seems with high price offers from other clubs, Juve must be willing to let him go.
Yes you are right, maybe the decision is now in the hands of de Ligt considering the amount offered by Chelsea and Bayern Munich is still the same, except that both clubs offer a higher price. But on the other hand I want to hear what Juventus have to say about this player, because until now I have not heard anything that I can draw conclusions from.

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In addition, Juventus are already intending to sell De Ligt this summer. However, the Old Lady was reluctant to let it go carelessly. Juventus have set a price of no less than 85 million Euros for the player. The sale proceeds will be used to bring in new players.

a news page has written that the reason Juve has not released De ligt to Bayern is that the price offered is still far from the price that Juve installed. let's see what happens until the end of this month, because reportedly bayern is also deliberately tugging on the price offer because bayern knows that Juve really expects money from the sale of de ligt.

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July 16, 2022, 06:15:42 PM
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Try to use keyword with De Ligt to Bayern Munich but not find anything with new update except news last three days, I think looks not have chance with de Ligt move to Bayern Munich for next season, according still not any confirmed yet from Juventus and believe with de Ligt keep stay with Juventus for next season. Looking with central defender position, Juventus not have many option if try sell de Ligt to Bayern Munich, have loss Chiellini last season and not extended contract I think bad choose if ty selling de Ligt, Juventus failed to get Koulibaly sign and looks not trying to sell de Ligt before getting who will replace position leaving.
I think Bayern are very ambitious to sign De Ligt from Juventus because Bayern have just sold Lewandowski and they are getting additional funds from the sale of Lewandowski. Even the famous football expert @fabrizioRomano through his latest tweet, Bayern will send a new offer to Juventus regarding their interest in De Ligt. I can't predict Juventus will reject the latest offer from Bayern. Surely they will eventually accept an offer from Bayern, like the problem between Bayern and Barcelona.

https://www.bavarianfootballworks.com/platform/amp/2022/7/16/23220800



I did find this but I don't know if this is reliable or not.
I am sharing this because this is the only thing that I have found so far about de Ligt and Bayern Munich.
For some reason, I really think that this is just a rumor and this does not have any truth behind it.


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July 16, 2022, 06:20:18 PM
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Zlatan Ibrahimovic is likely to be signed by Milan again according to some news. I assume that it would be a one-year deal. Zlatan is still ambitious about playing professional football despite his age. He is still very strong also. He is injured for a long time though and he would most likely be able to play after the first half of the season passes. I wasn't expecting this deal so early because of his lasting injury actually. But this is only a rumour for now of course.

A one year extension would make lots of sense for Milan, so as they can give other players a chance next season in the club. The big Man has been up and going not looking at how age has come already.
He has to be involved in the Champions League squad please all for he's winning mentality. Same thing with Ronaldo, they have winning mentality and are not easily intimidated by the fans.
They already have towering player's in attack already, Olivier Giroud, Divock Origi and he is also next.

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July 16, 2022, 06:27:42 PM
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a news page has written that the reason Juve has not released De ligt to Bayern is that the price offered is still far from the price that Juve installed. let's see what happens until the end of this month, because reportedly bayern is also deliberately tugging on the price offer because bayern knows that Juve really expects money from the sale of de ligt.
In my opinion, although it is still in a push back between bayern munchen and juventus but bayern munchen is in a pretty ideal condition at the moment to get De Ligt, juventus previously bought Vlanhovic at a fairly expensive price and of course it drained their financial and the proof so far is juventus only bringing in players with free transfers as well as bartering, so I suspect that if Juventus are in a frugal condition and need money so that they inevitably charge a high price for de ligt, whereas Bayern Munich which does have a pretty good transfer strategy, of course doesn't will move rashly to fulfill the wishes of juventus and i think bayern munchen will be more patient waiting for juventus want to lower the de ligt price in later.
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According to one news portal, Matthijs de Ligt has accepted Bayern Munich's offer but as before, Juventus do want a high price for this player. A club as big as Bayern Munich will basically have no trouble fulfilling Juventus' wishes. Moreover, Bayern Munich will also get fresh funds after releasing Lewandowski. That way, Matthijs de Ligt's transfer transaction will only wait for time, just imagine that Barcelona, which is in financial difficulty, finally managed to recruit Lewandowski after long negotiations. So, in the case of Matthijs de Ligt, Bayern Munich is only trying to get a lower price to reduce spending, but in the end this transaction will certainly be completed as well.
Juve until now still have not confirmed the offer from Bayern is because the amount offered is equivalent to that offered by Chelsea to Juve for a transfer de ligt. but it all came back to the decision of de ligt because he also insisted on joining Bayern instead of Chelsea. actually, de ligt is a very good defender and is suitable for juve but it seems with high price offers from other clubs, Juve must be willing to let him go.

I don't understand why Juventus want to sell a player who is actually young and can play for a long time.  There may be a region where they will not have problems for a long time once they place De Ligt in the Team.  Still, determined to build a great squad this year, Bayern seems to be finishing this transfer.

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Zlatan Ibrahimovic is likely to be signed by Milan again according to some news. I assume that it would be a one-year deal. Zlatan is still ambitious about playing professional football despite his age. He is still very strong also. He is injured for a long time though and he would most likely be able to play after the first half of the season passes. I wasn't expecting this deal so early because of his lasting injury actually. But this is only a rumour for now of course.

The rumors seem to be coming true, reportedly AC Milan will announce the extension of Zlatan Ibrahimovic contract by next week. He also recently had surgery which will keep him out till January 2023. I'm confused by AC Milan, why do they want to extend the contract of a player who can't even play until next year, does anyone know the reason AC Milan will do this? Cheesy

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July 16, 2022, 06:44:28 PM
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It is also a pity that they let De Ligt go. If we look at the longer term, Chiellini and Bonucci both no longer peel due to age. De Ligt has gone through a stormy development and I think he has done quite well in recent years since his move from Ajax. So the logical consequence would be that you would have to attract a new defender? I don't know how much Bayern are willing to pay for De Ligt, but good defenders are pricey. The fact that they now got Pogba for free makes up for a lot. If he is in shape then Juventus is normally unstoppable.

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July 16, 2022, 06:46:41 PM
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Zlatan Ibrahimovic is likely to be signed by Milan again according to some news. I assume that it would be a one-year deal. Zlatan is still ambitious about playing professional football despite his age. He is still very strong also. He is injured for a long time though and he would most likely be able to play after the first half of the season passes. I wasn't expecting this deal so early because of his lasting injury actually. But this is only a rumour for now of course.

The rumors seem to be coming true, reportedly AC Milan will announce the extension of Zlatan Ibrahimovic contract by next week. He also recently had surgery which will keep him out till January 2023. I'm confused by AC Milan, why do they want to extend the contract of a player who can't even play until next year, does anyone know the reason AC Milan will do this? Cheesy
I don't quite understand why they want to do this, but they must have a reason.  Their contribution to the team is not to be underestimated.  He was playing successful matches for Milan for his age.  But I don't understand why they would want to extend the contract if he can't play until 2023.

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