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April 07, 2023, 07:55:50 PM
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Even though Lecce still lost the home match against Napoli, but I can still appreciate Lecce's efforts to score a goal back because Lecce managed to score in this match. Because of course it's not easy to score goals against a team that is in its best performance, but Lecce, which has quality far below Napoli, can still play with good confidence.
It would have been a big discussion had Napoli lost again, questions of how the team is coping without their major striker would have flooded the media. Napoli should have won by more goals, they only scored one goal to me in this game since the other goal was an own goal too. Victor Osimhen is high on demand, other players from this Napoli team will be sold in the transfer season too, the club needs to start preparing to face that reality by next season.

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April 07, 2023, 07:56:56 PM
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Napoli basically just won the Scudetto with the result of this evening.

The only remote way for them of losing it is if they give back points to Juventus but just there it will be almost impossible to recover the distance.
I agree that Napoli is very likely to win the Scudetto, I don't even think there is any real threat to his chances until the end of the season. That said, I don't think Napoli should lose focus on every match the rest of the season, in fact the winning record and final points tally would be very good to look forward to. 100 points is still possible for Napoli, but of course it will be difficult when they focus on the Champions League.

Milan vs Empoli is still 0-0, but I can hope Milan wins because they really dominated the first half well. The goals will come in the second half, but I'd like to see them improve their finishing.

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April 07, 2023, 07:59:54 PM
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Actually Lecce can provide resistance to Napoli, they don't let Napoli easily beat them. But they are not tough enough to do that. If we look at the match statistics, the chances they got were not that far from what Napoli got, but in terms of mastery of the match, Napoli were far superior to them. That is a very natural thing because indeed Napoli is in a very good condition.

There must be a reason if Lecce are at the bottom of the standings
he must be saved, he will certainly fight but he doesn't have much hope with Napoli
Napoli is very angry because of his disappointing performance against Milan, which must therefore prove something to everyone

I translate: Lecce has no escape

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April 07, 2023, 08:00:09 PM
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15 minutes of the second half went by between Lecce and Napoli but it seems that the conditions are still too difficult for Napoli now especially with the absence of Osimhen as their spearhead it seems that their chances are a little disturbed.
At the moment it's still a draw for this match but there's still a bit more time and I'm still quite confident of Napoli winning this match. But of course there needs to be some changes if this is to be made into 3 points.
It's not easy to beat Napoli this season, what they did was truly extraordinary. One defeat last week doesn't make them just collapse, and also one defeat won't make their position insecure. The 3 points that I had previously predicted for Napoli, with their opponent like Lecce, was not a big problem for them. A few more steps they will be able to claim the Scudetto title this season.
They have a game in the Champions League with the club that beat them last week in Serie A, AC Milan. It will be an interesting Serie A derby.

A few minutes after I typed this, the score changed immediately with an own goal from Antonio Gallo that did make the score a win for Napoli and that score did not change until the final whistle.

There are some notes that are still a problem I guess. The reliance on Osimhen is still very much there for Napoli and you can see when Osimhen is absent they are a little confused in their finishing even though there is nothing much different in terms of chances and dominance in possession. It's just that this finishing is a little more complicated because Raspadori and Simeone still can't keep up so that more opportunities are wasted.

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April 07, 2023, 08:01:13 PM
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Actually Lecce can provide resistance to Napoli, they don't let Napoli easily beat them. But they are not tough enough to do that. If we look at the match statistics, the chances they got were not that far from what Napoli got, but in terms of mastery of the match, Napoli were far superior to them. That is a very natural thing because indeed Napoli is in a very good condition.

I'm not too impressed with the statistics of this game because that's normal as a home team obviously they have the full support of the fans
Indeed one goal from Lecce should be appreciated because it is not easy to reach Napoli defense unfortunately they still lost points
Has anyone watched the Milan vs Empoli match? the 2nd half must be the right moment for Milan to score they control the match.

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April 07, 2023, 08:08:23 PM
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And there we go!

Further investigations against Lazio Roma, AS Roma and Salernitana. Their offices have already been raided and some officials have been sued as far as I know. This would be sick if in the next couple of weeks  AS and Lazio Roma would actually be penalized with a point deduction. What a turn of events would that be for Juventus in the very last moment should they not make the cut by themselves? Cheesy

They have been shuffling players around at below market value transactions and then booked higher market values to pimp their financial balances. I assume that has something to do with the salaries you can expend? I don't know how it exactly comes into effect. But yes, that is what's going on there.

As I understand it, the FFP created a need for clubs to look for ways to get around it and this led to "small" financial manipulations. But if from the point of view of sports these are "little tricks", then for the prosecutor's office/tax authorities these are financial crimes.
I wonder how many clubs are involved in this (I think all of them) and will they all be caught? After all, if you remove 15 points from all clubs, then in the end no one will notice the difference  Grin

This is a good analysis by you. "The FFP created a need", sure, every law creates a need to get around it if the person feels the need to get around it. Cheesy If I feel the need to evade tax (lol), the law is to blame that forces me to pay tax. Poor soccer clubs that rules exist, they all have a need to get around those rules.
Well, if I am not ok with the speed on the highways, I can take a plane. But the difference is that the plane is legal. I have no idea what's going on now but I believe that a lot of clubs are hiding a lot of legally relevant information. It's not even surprising, is it? When you read the numbers what Mbappe and Neymar cost in transfer fees, salaries and these outrageous bounties for giving their signature? It can't be compliant with FFP. There is no way.

The thing is I don't know how quick they are and whether clubs get removed from competitions retrospectively if according to the rules they shouldn't have qualified for the European tournaments. But that would destroy the competition if it is already running. Here in Italy now if the three clubs concerned would lose 15 points, that would change a whole lot. Just check the table! Wink

But generally you are right, the question is who is not to blame, and how much sense does a 15 point deduction then even make? Also, if all receive the same financial penalty, a poor club suffers even harder than a rich club, leaving the rich club with sufficient room to go while the poor club might collapse. Penalties somehow need to be individual.

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April 07, 2023, 08:29:50 PM
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Napoli beat Lecce 2-1, i didn't know the match will be that close, i thought Napoli would win with many goals advantage, but what is important is the win and Napoli got it, they are now very close to winning the Scudetto, i think if they win 3 or 4 games more, they are going to officially be champions, even if there will be a few games remaining to play, it will then help them to concentrate on the champions league.

Inter milan are a very inconsistent team, and they could not beat Salernitana, they drew 1-1, Ac milan are also currently drawing 0-0 with Empoli. Ac milan will soon officially lose their title to Napoli, they have been so inconsistent, not only them, even Inter milan, Lazio and Atalanta, they must play better next season, so the challenge for the Scudetto will be interesting.

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April 07, 2023, 08:35:50 PM
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It's no surprise that Napoli won again, but Lecce looked like they could take something from this game. Now there is Milan match. Both teams failed to score yet. If this match ends like this, it will be very bad for Milan. Empoli hasn't even shot in 80 minutes. Milan took 15 shots and failed to score. Giroud and Leao are newly entered to the game. Instead of Origi, Giroud should've started in the starting lineup. Milan can pay for the rotation, if they don't score in the remaining time.

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April 07, 2023, 08:36:54 PM
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I agree that Napoli is very likely to win the Scudetto, I don't even think there is any real threat to his chances until the end of the season. That said, I don't think Napoli should lose focus on every match the rest of the season, in fact the winning record and final points tally would be very good to look forward to. 100 points is still possible for Napoli, but of course it will be difficult when they focus on the Champions League.

Milan vs Empoli is still 0-0, but I can hope Milan wins because they really dominated the first half well. The goals will come in the second half, but I'd like to see them improve their finishing.
No doubt with Napoli chance winning scudetto season 2022/2023 behind 19 points left from Lazio and have one match remaining, current standing right now only Lazio are team make Napoli can't celebrate scudetto early but waiting few matches later Napoli will win domestic league. Seems have opportunity for Napoli reached 100 points in Serie with 74 current points and have 8 matches left.

If winning all matches, Napoli will get 101 points and become the first history with scudetto winning by 101 points, but I don't think Napoli will serious for all matches left if they win Scudetto in matchday 34 or 35 because they have Champion League quarter final match against AC Milan.


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April 07, 2023, 08:42:26 PM
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It's no surprise that Napoli won again, but Lecce looked like they could take something from this game. Now there is Milan match. Both teams failed to score yet. If this match ends like this, it will be very bad for Milan. Empoli hasn't even shot in 80 minutes. Milan took 15 shots and failed to score. Giroud and Leao are newly entered to the game. Instead of Origi, Giroud should've started in the starting lineup. Milan can pay for the rotation, if they don't score in the remaining time.
Empoli totally defended themselves against Milan, it's a really boring strategy game to watch. Milan must immediately find a solution to get a goal because the match is almost over. Empoli's defense was good, but Milan struggled to find good ways to score. There have been 17 shots so far of which 3 are on target, but somehow Empoli still manage to defend well. It would be a big loss for Milan if this match ended in a draw, especially after Inter also drew against Salernitana.

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April 07, 2023, 08:51:39 PM
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It's no surprise that Napoli won again, but Lecce looked like they could take something from this game. Now there is Milan match. Both teams failed to score yet. If this match ends like this, it will be very bad for Milan. Empoli hasn't even shot in 80 minutes. Milan took 15 shots and failed to score. Giroud and Leao are newly entered to the game. Instead of Origi, Giroud should've started in the starting lineup. Milan can pay for the rotation, if they don't score in the remaining time.
Empoli totally defended themselves against Milan, it's a really boring strategy game to watch. Milan must immediately find a solution to get a goal because the match is almost over. Empoli's defense was good, but Milan struggled to find good ways to score. There have been 17 shots so far of which 3 are on target, but somehow Empoli still manage to defend well. It would be a big loss for Milan if this match ended in a draw, especially after Inter also drew against Salernitana.

What a pity, milan have actually score but the goal was cancelled, I guess Oliver Giroud will be really pissed. It's just surprising how Milan have failed to score after getting that brilliant victory after an inform napoli squad. I really expected them to turn and win this ease but they have dissapointed even in terms of their performance in this match.
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April 07, 2023, 08:56:33 PM
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As I understand it, the FFP created a need for clubs to look for ways to get around it and this led to "small" financial manipulations. But if from the point of view of sports these are "little tricks", then for the prosecutor's office/tax authorities these are financial crimes.
I wonder how many clubs are involved in this (I think all of them) and will they all be caught? After all, if you remove 15 points from all clubs, then in the end no one will notice the difference  Grin

This is a good analysis by you. "The FFP created a need", sure, every law creates a need to get around it if the person feels the need to get around it. Cheesy If I feel the need to evade tax (lol), the law is to blame that forces me to pay tax. Poor soccer clubs that rules exist, they all have a need to get around those rules.
Well, if I am not ok with the speed on the highways, I can take a plane. But the difference is that the plane is legal. I have no idea what's going on now but I believe that a lot of clubs are hiding a lot of legally relevant information. It's not even surprising, is it? When you read the numbers what Mbappe and Neymar cost in transfer fees, salaries and these outrageous bounties for giving their signature? It can't be compliant with FFP. There is no way.

The thing is I don't know how quick they are and whether clubs get removed from competitions retrospectively if according to the rules they shouldn't have qualified for the European tournaments. But that would destroy the competition if it is already running. Here in Italy now if the three clubs concerned would lose 15 points, that would change a whole lot. Just check the table! Wink

But generally you are right, the question is who is not to blame, and how much sense does a 15 point deduction then even make? Also, if all receive the same financial penalty, a poor club suffers even harder than a rich club, leaving the rich club with sufficient room to go while the poor club might collapse. Penalties somehow need to be individual.

The nuance is that PSG is a political project and the French prosecutor/tax police are not very (for some reason  Roll Eyes ) interested in the machinations of this club. A similar picture with City, this is the most notorious fraudulent club, but for some reason they are not prosecuted by the authorities, and the League has little power, so the attempt to punish City (from Leage side) has been going on for many years.
And standing aside from all this is UEFA/FIFA, which cover up obvious scammers (PSG, City) but attack their enemies (the organizers of the Super League - Juventus, Real and Barcelona) using any pretexts and reasons. As I understand it, Juventus and Barcelona have already been dealt with, and the next victim is Real Madrid.
Such selective "justice" is itself a fraud because the law should be the same for all.
In general, clubs find themselves between two fires - on the one hand, UEFA/FIFA allow "friendly" clubs to cheat, so all clubs are forced to do this too (to one degree or another) in order to keep up with competitors. On the other hand, sometimes there are problems with the authorities, and here the Federations (the same bastards UEFA/FIFA officials) also impose sports sanctions on the clubs. Very comfortably.

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April 07, 2023, 09:09:19 PM
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I made a big bet and I am not sure how that's going to look. I know that I shouldn't have made such a big messy bet, but it just felt right to do so. I wagered on all Milan, Inter, Napol, Atalanta, Juventus and Roma to win. I know that sounds silly and most probably we are not going to see them all win and I do not know why I did a bet I had absolutely no trust about at all.

But, I just felt like that was a bet that I couldn't miss out because they are all playing teams that are weaker than them if you ask me. Surely Lazio-Juventus will be hard, but the odds of these games combined makes it 43 odds give or take and that's just too huge for me to pass up. This is why even though I know I will lose, I gave it a shot anyway.

Salernitana 1 - 1 Inter

Lecce 1 - 2 Napoli

AC Milan 0 - 0 Empoli


you lost on your bet, I'll start by commenting on inter, honestly betting on inter is the same as asking to lose money, inter can't even win even a smaller team, they suddenly became very weak, they can't score many anymore goals, there is no good defense anymore, with this current coach inter does not have any good future, I hope that the board of inter dismisses the coach and makes reforms in the team, and when I talk about reforms in the team I am talking about hiring new players in attack and defense, I still don't understand how lautaro hasn't been taken to a better team than inter, he's a good player who is destroying himself and sinking in inter

about milan, well there is no doubt that if it was in a normal calendar situation milan would have won this game, but the coach of milan chose not to play with his best players right at the beginning of the game because he is saving players for the game against napoli in the champions league, milan has already done the math and knows that it will be impossible for them to be champions so a draw here was the best option and beating napoli in the peasants league was the second best option, but napoli also won today and in the next game against milan napoli will play with all the best players they have, soon napoli will win the next game against milan



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April 07, 2023, 09:13:53 PM
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Lecce may have the chance to stay in the Serie A so far they are 8 points above the relegation zone and there are still 9 games left
Apart from that of all the remaining matches , 5 of them were played at home meaning there is a possibility Lecce get more points.


As long as sampdoria, verona and cremonese will be facing lose in upcoming match and lecce is still safe but always getting lose in serie a is very disappointing result. Lecce was just giving napoli a way to be even far than before. I do like the result that being achieved by duo milan. Duo milan performed so badly against small teams. That was making atlanta and as roma a way to go to the top 4. Juventus will even make it to enter into the competition if duo milan will not able to get full points any more.
Juventus will able to cut two points to the duo milan again. This is really good news for me.

I hope that juventus will able to win against lazio. This will make juventus cut two points to the top 4. This is also helping napoli to make the gap to be even bigger as well.
What a great result by duo milan. Im fully believing if juventus is having a big chance to go up again. I can imagine if some clubs like lazio and roma got sanctions like points deduction. These clubs will be ruined.

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April 07, 2023, 09:15:42 PM
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What a pity, milan have actually score but the goal was cancelled, I guess Oliver Giroud will be really pissed. It's just surprising how Milan have failed to score after getting that brilliant victory after an inform napoli squad. I really expected them to turn and win this ease but they have dissapointed even in terms of their performance in this match.
I think Milan underestimated Empoli too much. Pioli substituted Giroud, Diaz, and Leao. which is the main key to Milan's victory over Napoli. either deliberately saving them for the Champions League or whatever. but fortunately, they did not get defeated. Milan may no longer be trying to chase the Serie A trophy. But Milan's position in the standings is also not secure. Milan must also think about their continuity in the next season.

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It was like a miracle for Empoli that they didn't lose this match against Milan in San Siro. Because Milan had one of their most dominant matches of the season honestly. They fully dominated the match from the beginning to the end in every way I mean. They had full control with a 70% ball possession and Empoli had only two goal attempts in the whole match.

But despite all of this Milan still couldn't win here. This was one of their unluckiest days of the season. After seeing that absurd victory over Napoli away I waited for them to destroy Empoli as well. But football doesn't always work in the same way of course. Now this is a big chance for Roma to leave Milan and Inter both behind in the standings by one victory.

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April 07, 2023, 09:20:24 PM
Last edit: April 07, 2023, 09:33:25 PM by zuzie
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What a pity, milan have actually score but the goal was cancelled, I guess Oliver Giroud will be really pissed. It's just surprising how Milan have failed to score after getting that brilliant victory after an inform napoli squad. I really expected them to turn and win this ease but they have dissapointed even in terms of their performance in this match.
I think Milan underestimated Empoli too much. Pioli substituted Giroud, Diaz, and Leao. which is the main key to Milan's victory over Napoli. either deliberately saving them for the Champions League or whatever. but fortunately, they did not get defeated. Milan may no longer be trying to chase the Serie A trophy. But Milan's position in the standings is also not secure. Milan must also think about their continuity in the next season.

At first I saw Milan score in the 90th minute but somehow it was cancelled apart from that Milan dominated the match since the first half
But somehow they struggled to score goals even though against Napoli they were very aggressive with a big win.
We know Milan will be playing in the Champions League next week, maybe this is one of the reasons why they are not pushing too hard.

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April 07, 2023, 09:23:58 PM
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It was like a miracle for Empoli that they didn't lose this match against Milan in San Siro. Because Milan had one of their most dominant matches of the season honestly. They fully dominated the match from the beginning to the end in every way I mean. They had full control with a 70% ball possession and Empoli had only two goal attempts in the whole match.

But despite all of this Milan still couldn't win here. This was one of their unluckiest days of the season. After seeing that absurd victory over Napoli away I waited for them to destroy Empoli as well. But football doesn't always work in the same way of course. Now this is a big chance for Roma to leave Milan and Inter both behind in the standings by one victory.

Empoli was so bad today that i dont know how they got this point. Milan in attack was terrible but they had the ball the entire game and dominated. But Milan just didnt know how to score a goal today plus Var cancelled one goal for them so good news for Inter

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April 07, 2023, 09:26:01 PM
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What a pity, milan have actually score but the goal was cancelled, I guess Oliver Giroud will be really pissed. It's just surprising how Milan have failed to score after getting that brilliant victory after an inform napoli squad. I really expected them to turn and win this ease but they have dissapointed even in terms of their performance in this match.
I think Milan underestimated Empoli too much. Pioli substituted Giroud, Diaz, and Leao. which is the main key to Milan's victory over Napoli. either deliberately saving them for the Champions League or whatever. but fortunately, they did not get defeated. Milan may no longer be trying to chase the Serie A trophy. But Milan's position in the standings is also not secure. Milan must also think about their continuity in the next season.
At first I saw Milan score in the 90th minute but somehow it was cancelled apart from that Milan dominated the match since the first half
But somehow they struggled to score goals even though against Napoli they were very aggressive with a big win

AC Milan's dominance was quite visible throughout the match but they could not win. The Milan player had a total of 23 shots in this match. But only four were on target. Empoli, on the other hand, only resisted Milan's attacks in the entire match. They only made 2 shots. Empoli's aim was to draw the match goalless. And Empoli succeeded in this match. They managed to score 1 point. A better performance was expected from Milan in today's match after a 4-0 win against Napoli in the last match. It seems that a lot of gamblers today have lost their money.
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April 07, 2023, 09:26:24 PM
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I think Milan underestimated Empoli too much. Pioli substituted Giroud, Diaz, and Leao. which is the main key to Milan's victory over Napoli. either deliberately saving them for the Champions League or whatever. but fortunately, they did not get defeated. Milan may no longer be trying to chase the Serie A trophy. But Milan's position in the standings is also not secure. Milan must also think about their continuity in the next season.
Rotation is necessary, but sometimes it costs. Of course Stefano Pioli rotated so that his important players were really fit against Napoli in the Champions League, but that actually made Milan fail to win a match they really dominated.

Milan's main problem in this match is Empoli's really good defense. Milan excelled everything, but they could not score until the end of the match. Of course it's very bad about a draw because Milan should have been ahead of Inter by 3 points. Samuele Perisan made 4 saves from 4 shots on target, while Empoli tended to defend throughout the match.

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