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July 06, 2023, 05:52:00 PM
 #53241

I personally do not doubt the greatness of the current coach of AS Roma, namely Jose Mourinho. It's just that a great coach will not be enough to make a team perfect in playing on the field. It takes more great players who certainly also have a fairly high price. And actually AS Roma is lacking quality players at the moment. But even so Mourinho has always managed to make good use of the players he has. And can bring out the best performance.

Even in the last 2 seasons Mourinho was able to bring AS Roma to 6th place with mediocre players. For now AS Roma has only gotten 2 new players from the transfer market and both are players with free transfer status. The 2 players are Evan Ndicka who will strengthen the position of central defender and Houssem Aouar who will strengthen the midfielder for AS Roma.
Mourinho can't get a success all by himself, if the team he is managing is not good enough to win the title then they are not going to win just because Mourinho is a good manager. I do believe that they can have a better result, but looking at the teams, Inter, Milan, Juventus, Napoli, these four are amazing teams that could win it and I am sensing that Roma could be fifth at the best case and they are going to have to fight against Lazio to do that as well.

I am not saying it is impossible for them to win the title, nobody guessed Napoli would win the title with this much point difference neither and in the end we have seen them do this well so I am quite sure Roma has a chance. However, it is not going to be easy to sell to say the least, they need some good players.

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July 06, 2023, 06:05:57 PM
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Honestly I think Inter shouldn't sign Lukaku back while he is this much bad. He is longer the Lukaku we know. His past performances in the previous seasons with Inter were much better than this. He was like a goal machine together with Lautaro Martinez. But now that performance is long gone. At least this season showed this to us.

I see him performing really well only at his national team. He continues to score many goals there. As long as he doesn't improve his finishing skills again I don't see a move to Inter as sensible for him. But if he can promise to work harder from now on then Inter can give him a second chance.
We need to understand that form is something that is not stable, it comes and and goes time to time. A players form can be affected by different factors so it is very difficult to maintain a stable form for long the only players tha have done it for almost 20 years are Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi and i believe they are the only players that can do it. Lukaku is just currently going through a drop in form and its only temporal if he is determined to improve so i still believe he can regain his form back just like Rashford did this season in Manchester united. Inter knows what he is capable thats why they are still interested in buying him from chelsea permanently even after his poor performance in the champions league. National team football is always different from club side football because mostly there are no pressure playing for your country side.

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July 06, 2023, 06:13:15 PM
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Roma performance this season wasn't all that impressive, but I'm confident that it will look fantastic next season because the team has good plans, and when a team has good plans, we should expect good things to happen. Roma put forth a lot of effort this season in both the serie A league and the europa league because they even reached the final stage; they just weren't fortunate enough to win the title.
Greenwood is also a good player, and we all know he can perform well. Because of this, I think Roma will do better the following season than they did this one.
AS Roma hasn't consistent performance last season although ever on positive trend but difficult winning against top standing teams, Jose Mourinho still failure second season with AS Roma after finishing on 6th standings placed and not qualify to Champion League next season. Actually is logical what achievement from AS Roma, Jose Mourinho difficult for signing star player without have much money for transferring new player.

Greenwood have been absent almost one season after suspended by Manchester United due criminal cases happen with him, I don't sure with Jose Mourinho want to get him as loan option from Manchester United. Can back to the top perform for Greenwood after long time not participant in competition?

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July 06, 2023, 06:18:35 PM
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Christian Pulisic is very close to AC Milan but this player's performance has been very lagging with Chelsea last season so I don't think this is a good option for AC Milan.
So far AC MIlan has not made any moves in the transfer market to make their team stronger in the next season even after the departure of andro Tonali who even though he has received fresh funds for AC MIlan because such a large transfer was made by Newcastle but AC Milan has not used those funds to buy some other good players.
I believe Pulisic can prove his quality with Milan if he officially joins them. At Chelsea, we know that Pulisic is not getting regular playing time because of the intense competition in the winger position. Chelsea have a lot of quality players in that position and automatically make it less likely for Pulisic to get regular playing time. Pulisic is still very young at 24 years old, he still has the potential to continue to grow at Milan and could become a club legend one day. But until now there has been no official news from Pulisic or the two Clubs, hopefully he can wear a Milan uniform for next season.
Most recently Milan has made a second offer at a higher price of 24 million pounds from the previous 15 million pounds to Chelsea. I don't think they will have a hard time letting Pulisic go with that figure considering that Pulisic is also interested in joining Ac Milan.
When Pulisic was about to turn 20, I thought that he will be one of those guys who is one of the hottest and most expensive transfers in the market. But he couldn't play on the same level many games in a row and that was his biggest problem in Chelsea. It was disappointing to see that someone with his talent is not able to be accepted into the first eleven players of the team. He played some games that caused my jaw to drop when he won his duels with his impressive dynamic, but then the next game he wasn't even average and lost most of his duels and couldn't cause any danger in the opponent half. When he now goes to AC Milan he will still have to remedy these fluctuations in his performances. Milan is not a club without ambitions where somebody can play below the maximum potential. If he can't remedy it, he will find himself sitting on the bench again.

Pulisic actually showed a lot of promise. He was getting known all around the world. But obviously, I think he has not delivered the type of performance that was expected from him. Now I think we all understand that Chelsea did not perform as well as they should have in the last season. So obviously the team morale was not the best. I believe a change of club and also a change of place can actually affect his mentality a lot in a positive way. I hope that it’s going to affect him positively.

Milan is also trying to improve and we can say that Milan did not perform as well as they should have in this season. They will be going for the title in the next season and Pulisic will have to remember that he is supposed to be a big asset for the club. He will have to perform accordingly.

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July 06, 2023, 06:19:52 PM
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It's not about Chelsea wanting Lukaku, but the fact that Lukaku is still under contract at Chelsea. Lukaku played at Inter last season on loan and at the end of the season his loan expired and thus, Lukaku had to return to Chelsea. So, it is not about Chelsea who are interested in signing Lukaku and anyway, Chelsea are ready to sell him but unfortunately, the offer from Inter and maybe from other clubs is still not acceptable to Chelseaa especially about the nominal proposed.

unfortunately this is the harsh reality, the players really cost a lot of money: if a rich team with a lot of money like Inter can't buy him, they just have to make another loan if they don't want to keep him on the bench. In my opinion
In fact, if Inter Milan really admits that Romelu Lukaku is very profitable, Inter Milan should try to take over Romelu Lukaku to be permanent, no matter what Chelsea offers.
Because even Chelsea will not give a high price for Inter Milan after working together for so long to loan Romelu Lukaku.

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July 06, 2023, 06:25:35 PM
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There are some updates from intermilan:

Inter stated that if onana will stay for another year. It's caused by MU has no money to buy onana. Intermilan gave last chance for MU to complete onana's transfer before the deadline but inter wants MU to pay what asked by intermilan.
Intermilan has reached an agreement with frattesi from sassuolo as a replacement for brozovic that has been leaving to the al nassr.
Bastoni's contract extended till 2028

https://sempreinter.com/2023/07/05/sassuolo-ceo-carnevali-confirms-davide-frattesi-move-to-inter-milan/

I think that intermilan is now having two main concerns that must be completed as soon as possible.

1. Intermilan shall try to make finalization for the decision of lukaku.
2. Interimlan needs to find a replacement for milan skriniar which has been leaving from club






Inter is moving a lot
he has money to spend again I see, let's hope he spends it intelligently and not badly as usual
in the end it's not that if you spend a lot of money it's good, you have to spend it well and get serious and good players

Inter Milan can try hiring Lukaku for the rest of the season and they can pay the money to Chelsea they earned from selling some players but if they do that, they invested in a 30y old player who can't bring a long-term plan for them while instead of investing for this old player they can hire younger talents and help them grow just like what they do in other teams and this way Inter Milan can have cheaper and better players. Instead of Lukaku.

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July 06, 2023, 06:40:33 PM
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Honestly I think Inter shouldn't sign Lukaku back while he is this much bad. He is longer the Lukaku we know. His past performances in the previous seasons with Inter were much better than this. He was like a goal machine together with Lautaro Martinez. But now that performance is long gone. At least this season showed this to us.

I see him performing really well only at his national team. He continues to score many goals there. As long as he doesn't improve his finishing skills again I don't see a move to Inter as sensible for him. But if he can promise to work harder from now on then Inter can give him a second chance.
But unfortunately, Inter Milan have already fallen in love with Lukaku and are still their main priority for next season, although Lukaku performance also is not good as the 2020-21 season. Currently Inter Milan also have a striker who might be able to better than Lukaku, Marcus Thuram seems to be a suitable replacement in the centre-forward position, and there is a possibility that Lukaku will not go to Inter Milan again because at the moment Inter also do not have sufficient funds to bring Lukaku from Chelsea.

They could try the loan option again for Lukaku from Chelsea, if Inter's financial situation does not support buy him. It all depends  if Inter still feel Lukaku's contribution is neede for the club although I have little doubt Inter will use Lukaku again after the end of this season.
However, as you said, Marcus Thuram could be an option to replace for Inter Milan's attack line

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July 06, 2023, 06:43:51 PM
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Honestly I think Inter shouldn't sign Lukaku back while he is this much bad. He is longer the Lukaku we know. His past performances in the previous seasons with Inter were much better than this. He was like a goal machine together with Lautaro Martinez. But now that performance is long gone. At least this season showed this to us.

I see him performing really well only at his national team. He continues to score many goals there. As long as he doesn't improve his finishing skills again I don't see a move to Inter as sensible for him. But if he can promise to work harder from now on then Inter can give him a second chance.
But unfortunately, Inter Milan have already fallen in love with Lukaku and are still their main priority for next season, although Lukaku performance also is not good as the 2020-21 season. Currently Inter Milan also have a striker who might be able to better than Lukaku, Marcus Thuram seems to be a suitable replacement in the centre-forward position, and there is a possibility that Lukaku will not go to Inter Milan again because at the moment Inter also do not have sufficient funds to bring Lukaku from Chelsea.

They could try the loan option again for Lukaku from Chelsea, if Inter's financial situation does not support buy him. It all depends  if Inter still feel Lukaku's contribution is neede for the club although I have little doubt Inter will use Lukaku again after the end of this season.
However, as you said, Marcus Thuram could be an option to replace for Inter Milan's attack line

He did play quite well when he returned and he also scored so there isn't that much concern that it wouldn't work out, but Chelsea is asking a good amount of money and Inter might not be wiling to give Lukaku the kind of contract that he wants to have. I assume that he wants a three year contract since this will most likely be the last contract he would sign for a club in Europe unless something unforeseen happens. That in turn could make him quite expensive. 35-40 million plus the salary. It is not an easy decision for Inter.

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July 06, 2023, 06:49:21 PM
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Honestly I think Inter shouldn't sign Lukaku back while he is this much bad. He is longer the Lukaku we know. His past performances in the previous seasons with Inter were much better than this. He was like a goal machine together with Lautaro Martinez. But now that performance is long gone. At least this season showed this to us.

I see him performing really well only at his national team. He continues to score many goals there. As long as he doesn't improve his finishing skills again I don't see a move to Inter as sensible for him. But if he can promise to work harder from now on then Inter can give him a second chance.
Lukaku is obviously not the same player he used to be. While a drop in form is not unprecedented, the discrepancy between his club and national team play is cause for concern. Is it possible that he is unable to adapt to the club's current system, or that the club is no longer a nurturing atmosphere for his potential?

Inter may change their minds if they see proof that he is making genuine efforts to improve. However, that's a risky proposition. The opportunity cost should also be taken into account. For example, Marcus Thuram looks like a good replacement for the starting centre position. While Lukaku recovers, he might provide Inter with a breath of new air. This is a tricky choice, right?

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Christian Pulisic is very close to AC Milan but this player's performance has been very lagging with Chelsea last season so I don't think this is a good option for AC Milan.
So far AC MIlan has not made any moves in the transfer market to make their team stronger in the next season even after the departure of andro Tonali who even though he has received fresh funds for AC MIlan because such a large transfer was made by Newcastle but AC Milan has not used those funds to buy some other good players.
I believe Pulisic can prove his quality with Milan if he officially joins them. At Chelsea, we know that Pulisic is not getting regular playing time because of the intense competition in the winger position. Chelsea have a lot of quality players in that position and automatically make it less likely for Pulisic to get regular playing time. Pulisic is still very young at 24 years old, he still has the potential to continue to grow at Milan and could become a club legend one day. But until now there has been no official news from Pulisic or the two Clubs, hopefully he can wear a Milan uniform for next season.

Most recently Milan has made a second offer at a higher price of 24 million pounds from the previous 15 million pounds to Chelsea. I don't think they will have a hard time letting Pulisic go with that figure considering that Pulisic is also interested in joining Ac Milan.

We all expected Pulisic to put on a great performance at Chelsea but he didn't largely not his is fault though. He has not be so lucky at the club from not being a regular at Dortmund to moving to Chelsea and getting injured every single season. Yes, he is 24 years old and still has potential but when a player is injury prone, I see no way that he would rise to his full potential. Also he doesn't seem like a favourite for the coach. If he leaves to a better club he may just be the star there.

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AS Roma hasn't consistent performance last season although ever on positive trend but difficult winning against top standing teams, Jose Mourinho still failure second season with AS Roma after finishing on 6th standings placed and not qualify to Champion League next season. Actually is logical what achievement from AS Roma, Jose Mourinho difficult for signing star player without have much money for transferring new player.

Greenwood have been absent almost one season after suspended by Manchester United due criminal cases happen with him, I don't sure with Jose Mourinho want to get him as loan option from Manchester United. Can back to the top perform for Greenwood after long time not participant in competition?
Recognising that development is frequently based upon learning from setbacks is crucial even though Roma performance this season may not have lived up to expectations. There is definitely a chance for a more successful season in the following one given the team strong planning and tenacity that were displayed throughout Serie A and their stunning run to the Europa League final. A gifted player like Greenwood is also exciting to have around and opens up new performance opportunities for Roma. Roma has the chance to advance considerably and possibly experience greater success in the future by building on their prior experiences and utilising the talent of their player.

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July 06, 2023, 07:47:42 PM
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Mourinho can't get a success all by himself, if the team he is managing is not good enough to win the title then they are not going to win just because Mourinho is a good manager. I do believe that they can have a better result, but looking at the teams, Inter, Milan, Juventus, Napoli, these four are amazing teams that could win it and I am sensing that Roma could be fifth at the best case and they are going to have to fight against Lazio to do that as well.

I am not saying it is impossible for them to win the title, nobody guessed Napoli would win the title with this much point difference neither and in the end we have seen them do this well so I am quite sure Roma has a chance. However, it is not going to be easy to sell to say the least, they need some good players.
I don't see Roma trying to get stronger this offseason, what they're trying to do is deal with Adama Traore and Daichi Kamade, they're both free agents by the way. You need to understand that Roma will not be able to improve simply because of Mourinho, they need good players, but it seems that they don’t want to spend money on this.


But unfortunately, Inter Milan have already fallen in love with Lukaku and are still their main priority for next season, although Lukaku performance also is not good as the 2020-21 season. Currently Inter Milan also have a striker who might be able to better than Lukaku, Marcus Thuram seems to be a suitable replacement in the centre-forward position, and there is a possibility that Lukaku will not go to Inter Milan again because at the moment Inter also do not have sufficient funds to bring Lukaku from Chelsea.
While Inter are dealing with Chelsea, transfer issues, Al-Hilal is interested in the striker, but it looks like Lukaku wants to continue his career in Europe. Inter want to pay 30m for Lukaku but Chelsea don't want to let him go for less than 40m, maybe they'll settle for 35m. Smiley

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I believe Pulisic can prove his quality with Milan if he officially joins them. At Chelsea, we know that Pulisic is not getting regular playing time because of the intense competition in the winger position. Chelsea have a lot of quality players in that position and automatically make it less likely for Pulisic to get regular playing time. Pulisic is still very young at 24 years old, he still has the potential to continue to grow at Milan and could become a club legend one day. But until now there has been no official news from Pulisic or the two Clubs, hopefully he can wear a Milan uniform for next season.

Most recently Milan has made a second offer at a higher price of 24 million pounds from the previous 15 million pounds to Chelsea. I don't think they will have a hard time letting Pulisic go with that figure considering that Pulisic is also interested in joining Ac Milan.
Christian Pulisic has made an average of 24.5 appearances per season in the last 4 seasons at Chelsea. His performance isn't so great that you can take his stats into consideration. Christian Pulisic is still good enough and can still improve, but maybe Chelsea is not a good home for him again after the management transition disaster.

Mauricio Pochettino may not consider Christian Pulisic in his plans for next season at Chelsea. That would clearly hint that Christian Pulisic must leave Chelsea and find a new home next season. Milan deserves him, but the decision is not final.

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July 06, 2023, 08:10:39 PM
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It looks like the Mourinho era continues for Roma. As you know there were some rumours like PSG could make an offer to him. Mourinho even talked to the board and said that he would inform them about it right away. But he was just among the candidates for PSG of course. In the end we have seen PSG signing a 2-year deal with Luis Enrique. After that a Saudi Arabian team made an enormous offer to Mourinho - 120 million euros for 2 years. But he turned it down as well.

That offer is really unbelievable but it looks like Mourinho is still hungry for success in European football. He still wants to be a part of Roma project now.

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July 06, 2023, 08:27:59 PM
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Christian Pulisic is very close to AC Milan but this player's performance has been very lagging with Chelsea last season so I don't think this is a good option for AC Milan.
So far AC MIlan has not made any moves in the transfer market to make their team stronger in the next season even after the departure of andro Tonali who even though he has received fresh funds for AC MIlan because such a large transfer was made by Newcastle but AC Milan has not used those funds to buy some other good players.

The American International has not justified his massive €64m transfer fee from Borussia Dortmund. He has struggled with injury for most of the seasons. No doubt he is a gifted and quality player, but his injury-prone nature is limiting his abilities. AC Milan is trying to rebuild its attack and don't feel that Christian Pulisic is a dependable winger but things might change in Milan. He is just 24 years which means he still has the potential to improve. He had a good time in Borussia Dortmund and also did well in the last world cup in Qatar. Milan is also targeting Samuel Chukwueze from Villareal which means they are trying to build a team for the next season. Chelsea has not gotten so much from this player but it will not be a bad deal to let him go for €22 million.

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July 06, 2023, 08:55:59 PM
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I didn't read about the salary that was offered to him, but it was probably substantially higher than he would have gotten either at Chelsea or at Inter Milan. But I think he is in a situation in his career where money still isn't everything and he wants to play a few more seasons in the Champions League and win some titles if possible. Not some titles in the Champions League, but in general. I guess he thinks that there were some misunderstandings in recent years that he wants to clean out from his chronology as a player. Inter Milan would be the best destination for him to do that and I still think that both the club and the player will do what they can to sort that out. 

If we check statistics in Serie A actually Lukaku did not contribute much to Inter from 25 matches Lukaku scored 10 goals and 6 assists but in the Champions League a little better 8 matches 3 goals overall not too impressive. Lukaku's best career in 2020/2021 when he got several awards after moving to Chelsea his career seemed dim and now he is 30 years old so I thought he only had 3 years to maintain his career, besides the Saudi League and Inter who else wants to approach Lukaku? I have never heard of another club want to bring Lukaku.

I know that it is complicated, but the numbers you mentioned are ok, aren't they? If a player transfers during the winter break I think it is never really easy to perform the best they can immediately. Considering that and the lack of practice he had since he was also sitting on the bench quite a lot before he came back to Inter, scoring 10 goals and giving 6 assists means 16 goal participations in 25 games. He didn't start all of those 25 games either. If he can repeat that for a few years with that average participation per game, I think he would be worth some money.

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July 06, 2023, 09:03:29 PM
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Christian Pulisic is very close to AC Milan but this player's performance has been very lagging with Chelsea last season so I don't think this is a good option for AC Milan.
So far AC MIlan has not made any moves in the transfer market to make their team stronger in the next season even after the departure of andro Tonali who even though he has received fresh funds for AC MIlan because such a large transfer was made by Newcastle but AC Milan has not used those funds to buy some other good players.
I believe Pulisic can prove his quality with Milan if he officially joins them. At Chelsea, we know that Pulisic is not getting regular playing time because of the intense competition in the winger position. Chelsea have a lot of quality players in that position and automatically make it less likely for Pulisic to get regular playing time. Pulisic is still very young at 24 years old, he still has the potential to continue to grow at Milan and could become a club legend one day. But until now there has been no official news from Pulisic or the two Clubs, hopefully he can wear a Milan uniform for next season.

Most recently Milan has made a second offer at a higher price of 24 million pounds from the previous 15 million pounds to Chelsea. I don't think they will have a hard time letting Pulisic go with that figure considering that Pulisic is also interested in joining Ac Milan.


The both sides would get to final conclusion soon, Christian Pulisic has always wanted the move to Ac Milan more than any other club
It's not just about the lack of playing time, Christian Pulisic has been Injured for a very long time and whenever you get to use him on the pitch, he either flops or gets Injured again. AC Milan are doing good during this transfer, they must have also conclude with the move to sign Loftus Cheek also as a free transfer from Chelsea. And Chelsea, I love the way they're doing business especially with all these players they're no longer ready to work with no more.

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July 06, 2023, 09:08:17 PM
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But unfortunately, Inter Milan have already fallen in love with Lukaku and are still their main priority for next season, although Lukaku performance also is not good as the 2020-21 season. Currently Inter Milan also have a striker who might be able to better than Lukaku, Marcus Thuram seems to be a suitable replacement in the centre-forward position, and there is a possibility that Lukaku will not go to Inter Milan again because at the moment Inter also do not have sufficient funds to bring Lukaku from Chelsea.
Yes, one thing is clear, Inter Milan are still trying hard to get a deal for Lukaku. Lukaku's performance at Inter is considered very instrumental and contributed very well last season. So they need a lot of funds, moreover they are also eyeing a replacement for Bellanova, namely Emil Holm from Spezia. Meanwhile, on the other hand, the plan to sell Onana to Man United has not yet reached an agreement on a price.

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July 06, 2023, 09:11:44 PM
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It looks like the Mourinho era continues for Roma. As you know there were some rumours like PSG could make an offer to him. Mourinho even talked to the board and said that he would inform them about it right away. But he was just among the candidates for PSG of course. In the end we have seen PSG signing a 2-year deal with Luis Enrique. After that a Saudi Arabian team made an enormous offer to Mourinho - 120 million euros for 2 years. But he turned it down as well.

That offer is really unbelievable but it looks like Mourinho is still hungry for success in European football. He still wants to be a part of Roma project now.

Roma played very well in the last two seasons under Mourinho. I would say Mourinho is quite successful with the Roma team. If PSG wanted Mourinho to coach their club, we might have seen Mourinho in Paris. But PSG chose Enrique as the coach of the team. And so Mourinho is more likely to be seen as the coach of Roma in the next season as well. Mourinho could have made the Roma team stronger if the Roma management had provided Mourinho with enough funds to buy players. But since Roma management won't spend much money, I don't think Roma will perform outstanding next season. Roma's performance will be average.

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July 06, 2023, 09:15:15 PM
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I think Chelsea set a selling price too high for Lukaku which in the end was very difficult for Inter to accept. Lukaku is still good, but I don't think his value is higher than 30 million euros, but Chelsea want Inter to pay more. Loan options are being discussed, but it seems Chelsea just want to sell rather than put him on loan again.

Inter have so far not looked like they are going to force Lukaku's transfer at the value asked by Chelsea, that's because Inter seem to want to save a lot of money for other plans. Chelsea had to make a tough decision about Lukaku but I think 30 million euros is a good value for a 30 year old striker.

Ofcourse Inter Milan will be reluctant to buy the Chelsea man who is past his prime years for £30 million. Such amount for a 30 year old isn’t common, the fact that Chelsea prefer to sell him permanently rather than accepting a loan will make it even difficult to strike a deal. Somehow they will have to find a way around the transfer fee, Chelsea will have to reduce the fee for Inter Milan to get the player this summer.
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