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June 18, 2023, 06:15:51 PM
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Last season was indeed a bad one for the Old Ladies of Turin because of the court decisions that went against them and that is also why they'll not be playing in the UEFA Champions League competition come next season.
The point deduction is now a thing of the past but the club's management needs to be careful in involving themselves in similar dealings that led to the point deduction and also the players of the club must step up and take the club to where they belong once again
Juventus experienced ups and downs last season and I really applaud their fortitude in dealing with these problems. Actually, deducting points isn't entirely bad, but it can't be said to be good either, because there is something even scarier, namely having to go down to Serie B if the problem proves to be so severe. Luckily Juventus don't lose their chance in Serie A next season and they can still compete again with other top teams to fight for the Scudetto. The only thing they regret is of course the Champions League place next season and they must be willing to play in Europe's lowest competition, namely the Conference League.
We can say that this year has been very difficult for Juventus. If they had not lost points, they could have finished the league in second place, but they lost points. Due to these points losses, they could not focus on the league after a while. Of course they wanted to be in UCL next year, but now they have to settle for the tournament they go to.
Juventus went ahead in the points table with a good number of points but again fell far behind.  Whether they can do better this year is doubtful. Juventus is not a bad team but because of their poor performance this year Napoli, Lazio, Inter, Milan have become challenging teams for them. this weakness they will not be able to overcome this year, so the chances of Napoli becoming champions this year are high


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June 18, 2023, 07:25:07 PM
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This point deduction penalty is the second time that has befallen Juventus after previously they had to go down to Serie B and had two Scudetto titles revoked due to a match fixing scandal. Juventus have accepted the consequences of the scandal they committed, appearing in the Conference League is not too bad for Juventus after seeing how their condition was last season. Juventus need to get the best touch next season to compete for the Scudetto, their improved form towards the end of the season needs to improve for next season to reclaim the first position that has not been felt since the last three seasons.
First announced with 15 points deduction made bigger impact with Juventus has inconsistent performance although success won  games in a row, although success appeal awhile until FIGC suspend later with 10 points cut off have bad side for Juventus performance and loss many points until dropped from Champion League and Europe League standings spot. But lucky for Juventus after 10 points cut off by finish on UEFA Conference League next season.

For next season, Juventus should back to the top performance and keep in tittle race, since winning Serie A on season 2019/20  Juventus was failed winning domestic league three season in a row and bad achievement regarding Juventus ever become the winner six time in a row.

I hope there are no problems going on with Juventus right now. Because I do not want to see them lose points in the next season as well. This just takes out the fun. In the last season, they were not rewarded for their hard work. I hope that does not happen again with any team. I want to see Juventus fight for the title in the next season. I believe they are not going to change the manager. Honestly, I also do not see a better option right now if they decide to actually change their manager. I think he's doing a good job and he should get financial support. Though I am not sure if he's going to stay the manager of Juventus the next season or not.

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June 18, 2023, 07:45:02 PM
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This point deduction penalty is the second time that has befallen Juventus after previously they had to go down to Serie B and had two Scudetto titles revoked due to a match fixing scandal. Juventus have accepted the consequences of the scandal they committed, appearing in the Conference League is not too bad for Juventus after seeing how their condition was last season. Juventus need to get the best touch next season to compete for the Scudetto, their improved form towards the end of the season needs to improve for next season to reclaim the first position that has not been felt since the last three seasons.
First announced with 15 points deduction made bigger impact with Juventus has inconsistent performance although success won  games in a row, although success appeal awhile until FIGC suspend later with 10 points cut off have bad side for Juventus performance and loss many points until dropped from Champion League and Europe League standings spot. But lucky for Juventus after 10 points cut off by finish on UEFA Conference League next season.

For next season, Juventus should back to the top performance and keep in tittle race, since winning Serie A on season 2019/20  Juventus was failed winning domestic league three season in a row and bad achievement regarding Juventus ever become the winner six time in a row.

I hope there are no problems going on with Juventus right now. Because I do not want to see them lose points in the next season as well. This just takes out the fun. In the last season, they were not rewarded for their hard work. I hope that does not happen again with any team. I want to see Juventus fight for the title in the next season. I believe they are not going to change the manager. Honestly, I also do not see a better option right now if they decide to actually change their manager. I think he's doing a good job and he should get financial support. Though I am not sure if he's going to stay the manager of Juventus the next season or not.

Juventus is a good team and they have done well in many leagues which we have seen before but it is not possible for a team to play well all the time. as many teams as there are in a league, all the teams are selected and given a chance in the league, so it is not right to think of any team as weak.  Juventus have a lot of tough opponents in this year's Italian league so they can't get into a good position behind their strong opponents. Juventus wasted a long time so they cannot do well now. so it would be stupid things to expect Juventus to do well this year



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June 18, 2023, 07:54:29 PM
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Last season was indeed a bad one for the Old Ladies of Turin because of the court decisions that went against them and that is also why they'll not be playing in the UEFA Champions League competition come next season.
The point deduction is now a thing of the past but the club's management needs to be careful in involving themselves in similar dealings that led to the point deduction and also the players of the club must step up and take the club to where they belong once again
Juventus experienced ups and downs last season and I really applaud their fortitude in dealing with these problems. Actually, deducting points isn't entirely bad, but it can't be said to be good either, because there is something even scarier, namely having to go down to Serie B if the problem proves to be so severe. Luckily Juventus don't lose their chance in Serie A next season and they can still compete again with other top teams to fight for the Scudetto. The only thing they regret is of course the Champions League place next season and they must be willing to play in Europe's lowest competition, namely the Conference League.

It is clear that they will be one of the important candidates in the Scudetto race next year. It may be a disappointment for Juventus this year, but I think they should continue to Serie A with a squad that they have high hopes for next year. They have important stars and they should not send those stars from the team.

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June 18, 2023, 07:56:59 PM
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Work to be done for Juventus. Became champion of Italy 10 years in a row, and not for 3 seasons in a row. This year Napoli was of a different level, but the seasons before that with Inter and AC Milan respectively were seasons in which it was mainly due to Juventus themselves that they did not become champions in my opinion. The question is how they will do next season, the change of the trainer came late, but was necessary if it is going to happen this year. Since Allegri has been at the helm at Juventus since 2021, the performance has been very poor without a national title. That can hardly be a coincidence.

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June 18, 2023, 08:10:30 PM
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What was even more painful for Juventus was when they received a point deduction and were given back, after that they actually received a point deduction. If you look at their game, they actually showed good progress after they had such difficulties at the start of the season, it's just that towards the end of the season they experienced the same thing, namely playing under-performing again which made them lose a lot of points. I think that is a form of disappointment which in the end makes their mental state a little disturbed by what they get, so that it has an impact on their unsatisfactory game.
Yeah, that period had a sliver of hope, because they were feeling like they got rid of that problem and would be doing fine. Honestly I can't really remember any time when a team that points penalty twice in a single season, sure seen a team get it once, but a team getting it once, then taken back and then given it again feels like there isn't really all that common, that might be the first ever time I have seen it. Definitely ruins the psychology of people and that should be a difficult one.

In the end, I feel like they will do fine, it's Juventus and no matter how much they go down, they will end up doing better, because they are managed properly with a great fan base which means they will always have some money to play with and can get better, even if it takes a while.
I think the same in this case even I seem to have just seen something like this where the Juventus drama even though it hurts them but in my opinion this is something funny when the Federation there does something that is actually out of control where reductions and returns then reductions are made again . The actual decision was quite strange because it seemed that apart from the lack of firmness, there were several other conditions in it.
Mentality is obviously very hit in this regard because however the evidence that in the last few matches they have not done well especially with a humiliating 4-1 loss to Empoli on the same day that the decision was made is one of the proofs that their focus is diminishing.

Players and coaches are trying their best this season but indeed their unfavorable conditions make them have to be willing to be in the Conference League next season.

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Juventus is a good team and they have done well in many leagues which we have seen before but it is not possible for a team to play well all the time. as many teams as there are in a league, all the teams are selected and given a chance in the league, so it is not right to think of any team as weak.  Juventus have a lot of tough opponents in this year's Italian league so they can't get into a good position behind their strong opponents. Juventus wasted a long time so they cannot do well now. so it would be stupid things to expect Juventus to do well this year

Juventus had also done well in the last season. Well, I agree that it is impossible for any team to perform well all of the time. But it actually hurts really badly if everyone has done everything and they should be the winner of the league, but still, there are some bullshit reasons why they are not being able to achieve that. I hope nothing like that happens in the next season, and I also hope that the next season is going to be played fairly.

I really think Juventus should have been given a fine of a good amount of money. That was also going to give a lot of problems because they do not have a huge amount of money lying around right now. But I somehow believe that it was a very clever decision to take away points. Because money wouldn’t have had this much effect on Juventus, which taking away the points had.

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June 18, 2023, 08:24:18 PM
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Last season was indeed a bad one for the Old Ladies of Turin because of the court decisions that went against them and that is also why they'll not be playing in the UEFA Champions League competition come next season.
The point deduction is now a thing of the past but the club's management needs to be careful in involving themselves in similar dealings that led to the point deduction and also the players of the club must step up and take the club to where they belong once again
Juventus experienced ups and downs last season and I really applaud their fortitude in dealing with these problems. Actually, deducting points isn't entirely bad, but it can't be said to be good either, because there is something even scarier, namely having to go down to Serie B if the problem proves to be so severe. Luckily Juventus don't lose their chance in Serie A next season and they can still compete again with other top teams to fight for the Scudetto. The only thing they regret is of course the Champions League place next season and they must be willing to play in Europe's lowest competition, namely the Conference League.

It is clear that they will be one of the important candidates in the Scudetto race next year. It may be a disappointment for Juventus this year, but I think they should continue to Serie A with a squad that they have high hopes for next year. They have important stars and they should not send those stars from the team.
At least Juventus have tried their best to look good last season even though there were too many obstacles to overcome.
It's possible that Juventus may not be a candidate for the Scudetto in the summer but I'm sure there will definitely be a change in performance for the Juventus players.
Even though Juventus are only able to compete in the conference league, I will be more certain that in the new season at least Juventus will be able to get Europa League tickets.

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June 18, 2023, 08:32:04 PM
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It is clear that they will be one of the important candidates in the Scudetto race next year. It may be a disappointment for Juventus this year, but I think they should continue to Serie A with a squad that they have high hopes for next year. They have important stars and they should not send those stars from the team.
All teams have tough times and it is only to be expected that after so many years of dominance, Juventus have gone into decline. If this all ends, then it will not be such a difficult crisis for the team, although they had to go through points deductions and many unpleasant moments, but I think that they were able to pass this period with dignity and next season they will be able to compete for the Scudetto. I don't know if Naploi will be able to show the same results next season, as the team is waiting for changes.

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I would like it if Napoli is as good as last season. But somehow I think that a number of players will leave for the EPL for hefty sums. That's where the biggest money is in football in Europe. I don't see Otamendi going to Qatar any time soon. But how should we rate Juventus? I thought that Allegri has only been coach of Juventus since 2021, at least that's the information from Wikipedia. Seems like he's been out of there for a few months or years? Does anyone know exactly what that is? Because in principle he has been a coach at Juventus continuously for years, hasn't he?

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June 18, 2023, 09:58:03 PM
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The expectation is going to be really high from Rudy Garcia. So that is going to put on some added pressure on him from the start. I also believe that people are going to be really fast to point fingers towards him because Napoli are going to be the defending champion. I really did not think that a coach who got sacked by Al Nassr was actually going to be recruited by Napoli. I think that was not the right decision to make. But I might be speaking too soon. Probably he will be able to achieve good results with Napoli. But I do highly doubt that.
Indeed. Most people will be pessimistic about Rudy Garcia since he did a bad result in Al Nassr. Rudy Garcia also never won any title in Serie A, he only won 2 titles in France. If we consider his stats, we can understand if many people are pessimistic about him. Moreover, if we compare him with Spalletti, Spalletti's quality must be better than him. So, it is very questionable whether he can make Napoli be strong enough in the next season. It will be worse if there are some key players leaving the club in the current transfer window. Napoli should be decreasing its strength, we can see it toward the end of the season last week when some key players were injured.


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June 18, 2023, 10:11:32 PM
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At least Juventus have tried their best to look good last season even though there were too many obstacles to overcome.
It's possible that Juventus may not be a candidate for the Scudetto in the summer but I'm sure there will definitely be a change in performance for the Juventus players.
Even though Juventus are only able to compete in the conference league, I will be more certain that in the new season at least Juventus will be able to get Europa League tickets.
You are too pessimistic about Juventus' ability for next season and you even say that Juventus will get a ticket to the Europa League. I think if there is no point deduction this season of course Juventus can play in the Champions League. Not juventus' target to target European league tickets next season, they will target to close the season in the top 4 if they fail to compete in the race for the Scudetto.

There is no significant change in juventus squad even their star Vlahovic is still every to stay with juventus in next season.  i think allegri just needs to add some good quality players to strengthen juventus for next season.

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June 18, 2023, 11:12:54 PM
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I would like it if Napoli is as good as last season. But somehow I think that a number of players will leave for the EPL for hefty sums. That's where the biggest money is in football in Europe. I don't see Otamendi going to Qatar any time soon. But how should we rate Juventus? I thought that Allegri has only been coach of Juventus since 2021, at least that's the information from Wikipedia. Seems like he's been out of there for a few months or years? Does anyone know exactly what that is? Because in principle he has been a coach at Juventus continuously for years, hasn't he?

Napoli performed well in this season and it was mostly because other teams had ad performances. Inter Milan was unstable during this season and they just had good performances in the last games, Juvents also suffered from the bad atmosphere they had because of the points they lost. All these bad bad performances and bad results other teams got were enough for Napli to win the title this season.
But in the next season, the situation will not be the same.

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June 19, 2023, 01:21:57 AM
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Napoli performed well in this season and it was mostly because other teams had ad performances. Inter Milan was unstable during this season and they just had good performances in the last games, Juvents also suffered from the bad atmosphere they had because of the points they lost. All these bad bad performances and bad results other teams got were enough for Napli to win the title this season.
But in the next season, the situation will not be the same.
Juventus will perform better next season.IMO, juventus is trying so hard to leave from the problem against FGIC and finally juventus did it after it has been making agreement with FGIC about juventus's problem.
FGIC will not be threatening juventus again to deduct its point. Napoli will try even harder next season. It's caused by some reasons.

Napoli has no spalletti and one of its main defenders will be also leaving from the club in summer. Napoli must also adapt to the situation under a new coach that is already signed by the management.
I can't describe how strong another team next season is but im thinking if it will be far stronger than the current season. So many teams are aware of their mistakes. They will not repeat the same thing again next season.

Cristiano Giuntoli will come to the juventus as soon as possible. Allegri is also preparing another huge project for juventus. It will be selling a lot of players, especially midfielders.

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June 19, 2023, 01:37:37 AM
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Last season was indeed a bad one for the Old Ladies of Turin because of the court decisions that went against them and that is also why they'll not be playing in the UEFA Champions League competition come next season.
The point deduction is now a thing of the past but the club's management needs to be careful in involving themselves in similar dealings that led to the point deduction and also the players of the club must step up and take the club to where they belong once again
Juventus experienced ups and downs last season and I really applaud their fortitude in dealing with these problems. Actually, deducting points isn't entirely bad, but it can't be said to be good either, because there is something even scarier, namely having to go down to Serie B if the problem proves to be so severe. Luckily Juventus don't lose their chance in Serie A next season and they can still compete again with other top teams to fight for the Scudetto. The only thing they regret is of course the Champions League place next season and they must be willing to play in Europe's lowest competition, namely the Conference League.

It is clear that they will be one of the important candidates in the Scudetto race next year. It may be a disappointment for Juventus this year, but I think they should continue to Serie A with a squad that they have high hopes for next year. They have important stars and they should not send those stars from the team.
At least Juventus have tried their best to look good last season even though there were too many obstacles to overcome.
It's possible that Juventus may not be a candidate for the Scudetto in the summer but I'm sure there will definitely be a change in performance for the Juventus players.
Even though Juventus are only able to compete in the conference league, I will be more certain that in the new season at least Juventus will be able to get Europa League tickets.

Expectations in the new season should be UCL in Juventus. Juventus is not a team to target the European league. Their goal is always the championship. How they spend the summer transfer season is very important. According to who will be the players who will leave the team, the expectations of the next year will come true.

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June 19, 2023, 05:55:08 AM
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Expectations in the new season should be UCL in Juventus. Juventus is not a team to target the European league. Their goal is always the championship. How they spend the summer transfer season is very important. According to who will be the players who will leave the team, the expectations of the next year will come true.
This was indeed quite visible in the previous season where Juventus always put up great resistance so that Juventus were also often seen in the top four of the standings after the points were returned, but after Juventus' points were cut again, Juventus were immediately knocked out of the top four again due to a lack of points. This means that Juventus is a team that always targets champions with their own best performance so that from Juventus' efforts in the previous season it was very clear that they were a pretty good fighting team in Serie A.
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June 19, 2023, 06:18:12 AM
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Expectations in the new season should be UCL in Juventus. Juventus is not a team to target the European league. Their goal is always the championship. How they spend the summer transfer season is very important. According to who will be the players who will leave the team, the expectations of the next year will come true.
This was indeed quite visible in the previous season where Juventus always put up great resistance so that Juventus were also often seen in the top four of the standings after the points were returned, but after Juventus' points were cut again, Juventus were immediately knocked out of the top four again due to a lack of points. This means that Juventus is a team that always targets champions with their own best performance so that from Juventus' efforts in the previous season it was very clear that they were a pretty good fighting team in Serie A.
If you look at Juventus' performance, last season actually wasn't that bad, it's just that the point deduction made the Juventus players lack confidence which led to a decline in performance towards the end of last season.
but for me last season was one of the good lessons for juventus and this summer juventus can bounce back and prove its strength to get what it dreams of and of course UCL ticket.
regarding transfers this season, it's not certain that Juventus will get reliable players, but at least Juventus need a number of players to be able to dominate performance in every match.

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June 19, 2023, 07:41:17 AM
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Last season was indeed a bad one for the Old Ladies of Turin because of the court decisions that went against them and that is also why they'll not be playing in the UEFA Champions League competition come next season.
The point deduction is now a thing of the past but the club's management needs to be careful in involving themselves in similar dealings that led to the point deduction and also the players of the club must step up and take the club to where they belong once again
Juventus experienced ups and downs last season and I really applaud their fortitude in dealing with these problems. Actually, deducting points isn't entirely bad, but it can't be said to be good either, because there is something even scarier, namely having to go down to Serie B if the problem proves to be so severe. Luckily Juventus don't lose their chance in Serie A next season and they can still compete again with other top teams to fight for the Scudetto. The only thing they regret is of course the Champions League place next season and they must be willing to play in Europe's lowest competition, namely the Conference League.
In fact, the internal problems faced by the Juventus team, such as the reduction in points that occurred last season, greatly affected their performance.
If you look at the games they had last season and the players in their squad I don't think it's too bad, and they also made it to the semi-finals in the Europa League.
But it's a shame that the Juventus team couldn't finish in the top 4 positions, maybe next season they will be very focused on Serie A alone to be able to compete strictly for the Scudetto again.
Now several Serie A teams have started to wake up and perform much better, Serie A is much more competitive and the same goes for teams who want to compete for the Scudetto, they must be able to improve even more.
Juventus' failure in the European league must have been very painful because they were one step away from reaching the final round. But Allegri's troops will not dissolve in sadness and they will eventually rise in Serie A even though they failed to secure a place in the champions league. I think it is true that Juventus will only focus on Serie A because even the conference league will not interest Juventus too much to be serious in this competition and the only important thing is to win the Scudetto again or finish in the top 4 again which they lost. But not only that, at least Juventus have to get new players so they won't be left behind by other teams who are currently also in the hunt for players.

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June 19, 2023, 08:08:18 AM
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There is a new era started for Napoli with the departure of Spalletti and the arrival of Rudi Garcia. Rudi Garcia isn't a manager whose career is full of achievements maybe. But he made Lille the Ligue 1 champions in the past. If he builds up a good level of chemistry with his players at Napoli then they can still be in the title race next season as well.

He has also a wonderful journey with as roma. I think that rudi is more competence in managing italian club rather than galtier. I remember when napoli linked to the galtier. Glad to see that if the club is not hiring, galtier as a new manager. galtier would be able to destroy the club.
Rudi is a bit better as he has good experience in italian league. I remember rudi was almost making as roma to be a winner in the league but it ends as runner-up a long time ago.

It seems like that things have become the main consideration from napoli's president to sign him as a new coach. Rudi knew the condition in serie a.

Aurelio De Laurentiis seems to take it as how competence him to be a new coach for napoli. As long as it's not galtier and im fine with it.


Yeah I remember Rudi Garcia's time with Roma as well. He actually did a decent job back then as far as I can remember. He must have carried the team to the Champions League more than once. Now I'm curious about whether he can do a good work with Napoli as well and maintain the success. But becoming champion in the Serie A again can be really challenging next time.

I'm also glad to see that they haven't signed Galtier. Because he had a really poor season with PSG despite he thinks the opposite. Just because they won the Ligue 1 title it isn't a big success for them. It is already a title they are winning regularly due to the big power gap with the other teams.

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June 19, 2023, 08:08:55 AM
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All teams have tough times and it is only to be expected that after so many years of dominance, Juventus have gone into decline. If this all ends, then it will not be such a difficult crisis for the team, although they had to go through points deductions and many unpleasant moments, but I think that they were able to pass this period with dignity and next season they will be able to compete for the Scudetto.
Of course all clubs have difficult times and this is the second difficult period for Juventus who always faces difficulties and I think Juventus always gets stronger in the midst of it. Allegri must have responsibility for the history of Juventus and must have the determination that next season Juventus deserves to compete for the Scudetto and compete in Europe. Allegri must now focus on Juventus transfer plans. he has to meet with the club board to discuss and plan for the upcoming season.

We need to remember that Juventus was in a worse condition than the current situation and conditions. they've all experienced darker eras than this. Enjoy it and hope there are surprises in the next season. Allegri is still at Juventus, so they have to trust the remnants of his abilities.

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I don't know if Naploi will be able to show the same results next season, as the team is waiting for changes.
I'm not sure that Napoli can maintain his form next season. This is because Napoli is going through a really big ordeal next season. The first was left by Spaletti and now the bride of the former Al-Nassr coach, namely Rudi Garcia, as the new coach of Napoli, then added one by one their star players will leave.

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