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October 09, 2023, 01:51:32 PM
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Napoli is currently ranked 5th on the Serie A rankings. The 1-3 defeat to Fiorentina at home made Napoli fans lose all patience with coach Rudi Garcia. They still play with a 4-3-3 formation, but their attack could be stronger and clearer. I was shocked, especially when he withdrew three key players, Osimhen, Lobotka, and Zielinski, from the field when Fiorentina was leading 1-2. Garica believes that this loss was due to player psychology leading to mistakes in defense, not due to tactics. He needs to be more talented to lead Napoli. What I need most from Mr. Garcia is humility and recognition of his mistakes to correct them.

After all, at this moment it also seems that Fiorentina is experiencing a good performance too because basically, before the match starts also that Napoli and Fiorentina have the same points. But indeed, at least Napoli are playing at home and it can also be seen that Napoli can play well when considered from the statistics. But again and again, Napoli still failed to get good results in this home match. But yes, it maybe also right, that the players have psychological problems. Because after all, previously Napoli played with great exhaustion to play in the Champion League against Real Madrid, so that might have a bad impact on Napoli's performance in this match against Fiorentina.

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October 09, 2023, 02:01:53 PM
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These are same names that won the Seria A last season, No?
The problem shouldn't be from these players then, there must be something missing from the last management and the present. That's more to be handled internally tham externally. I won't support a coach calling out his players publicly, I've seen it leading to chaos between the player and coach. ( Jose Mourinho and Paul Pogba has got to be a good example )
Coaches who talk down on their players in the public end up hurting the team. The players will feel embarrassed and might not give their best anymore. This is the case of Rudi Garcia and Erik ten Hag. Both coaches talk too much and it is influencing the performance of their clubs negatively. The problem Jadon Sancho is going through currency is because Erik failed to use his tongue appropriately. We just hope that Napoli will get back to winning and at least qualify for the Champions League. second round. The Seria A is very competitive this season I didn't see Napoli get a free ride like they had last season. Napoli have to fight hard to find the title.

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October 09, 2023, 02:16:06 PM
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Milan won with an illegal goal at the end of the game.
The player touched the ball with the hand before shooting, according to the rules it is illegal.

It is funny how VAR works only against some teams.

The funny thing is that they say that only Juventus is the ugly and bad team that does these things, then it turns out something else.
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October 09, 2023, 02:48:59 PM
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Look who came and entered the top 10 of the Serie A standings this week and yes it is Roma who last night managed to win a landslide win against Cagliari away from home with a score of 1-4. It seems that Jose Mourinho's squad is starting to find the form they have lost since the start of the season and this is their third win after previously beating Frosinone and Empoli a few weeks ago. The previous victory in the European league competition when they hosted Servette was also an important motivation in this match for the Roma players to be able to win again.

In last night's match Lukaku again put his name on the goal scorer list and he also scored a brace in this match which made Roma's victory even more convincing. Lukaku's arrival has had a huge impact on the continuation of Roma's winning trend and currently Lukaku has scored 5 goals for Roma.

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October 09, 2023, 03:10:12 PM
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Milan won with an illegal goal at the end of the game.
The player touched the ball with the hand before shooting, according to the rules it is illegal.

It is funny how VAR works only against some teams.

The funny thing is that they say that only Juventus is the ugly and bad team that does these things, then it turns out something else.
They are all companies that have to make money and if they have to give someone a few bills to win to make money, they do it.
Much money for soccer is the ruin.

I think this allegation might hold true in some rare circumstances, but outright scam has become very difficult as we have dozens of camera angles and slow motions and what not and then we have the VAR as well. So at least it is not possible to scam without the scam going undetected. Now how often can a referee afford to make outright wrong decisions before getting onto the radar of people who supervise the referees? I agree and this has been much easier in the past when it was almost impossible to prove how the situation on the pitch exactly enfolded, but these times are over and I don't really believe in widespread scam and rigged games anymore.

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October 09, 2023, 03:26:51 PM
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The team clearly have inside problems as I am not seeing any harmony between the players and their key player despite scoring the goal is not feeling welcomed anymore in the team,he is looking to go away and when he does it will be even more trouble for Napoli.
The owners of Napoli do not look to be very interested in winning the title this season because I feel like they contributed in creation of many of the internal problems limiting the teams performance, some players in the team have not been kept happy. If Victor Osimhen did not score the penalty today, maybe another video of him being another kind of nut would have been made and allowed to even be post. The Italian league this season is between AC Milan and Inter Milan, they are already battling for it.

I know but I would not exclude Juventus,they are doing pretty well too and with the errors that Inter made and Milan before this season of Serie A is more open than ever.As I said I totally exclude Napoli as a title contender this season as they need to fix the internal problems first and we all know the internal problems are the most difficult ones to solve,they also take a lot of time in order to completely get rid of them.By getting rid of them I mean to make every player happy in the team and this is a monumental task that is why I exclude Napoli from the title fight.We should also capitalize on them not winning especially away games.
Yes, I really agree with your opinion that at this time Napoli may not be a strong challenger anymore like last season because there are still several problems that Osimhen doesn't seem to have resolved satisfactorily and these problems will definitely affect the player's enthusiasm to perform like last season and from Napoli's poor performance, several other top clubs are trying to take advantage of this situation, such as Inter and Milan, who are currently really confident in trying to get the Scudetto title and also Juventus is one of the big clubs that will continue to increase its points to become a strong competitor for Inter.
I don't doubt whether Napoli can return to what they were last season but it all depends on the coach even yesterday's defeat made fans very disappointed and if Napoli are still inconsistent I'm pretty sure Inter will be the leaders of Serie A this season to get the Scudetto title.

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October 09, 2023, 03:49:07 PM
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Napoli is currently ranked 5th on the Serie A rankings. The 1-3 defeat to Fiorentina at home made Napoli fans lose all patience with coach Rudi Garcia. They still play with a 4-3-3 formation, but their attack could be stronger and clearer. I was shocked, especially when he withdrew three key players, Osimhen, Lobotka, and Zielinski, from the field when Fiorentina was leading 1-2. Garica believes that this loss was due to player psychology leading to mistakes in defense, not due to tactics. He needs to be more talented to lead Napoli. What I need most from Mr. Garcia is humility and recognition of his mistakes to correct them.

Rudi Garcia will be highly criticized for sure if Napoli can't stay in the title competition this season. The gap with the leader Milan has already reached 7 points after leaving 8 weeks behind. When we look at Napoli's goal statistics they seem really good actually. They can score easily and concede nearly the same as the leader.

However they just can't reflect this onto the scores of their games. Rudi Garcia had better think about a formula to solve this inconsistency problem. The fans must be really expectant after seeing how dominant they were in the previous season.

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October 09, 2023, 03:51:21 PM
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As the weeks went on, I saw a decline from them, and this week they were beaten by Fiorentina at their own ground with a striking score too. I know this is also because Fiorentina played well and they were also in good form against Napoli. But this result will have an impact on most people's confidence in Napoli's current coach, and I wouldn't be surprised if many of their supporters call for Rudy Garcia to step down. I've predicted this before, that when he doesn't get Napoli to find their best game, he'll be the first to take the blame.
Fiorentina looks very good, but Napoli should not have lost at home. Perhaps the reason is that Napoli were unable to recover properly after the match with Real, but let be honest Napoli's decline was expected even before the start of the season.

I think that for them everything will continue like this, they will balance on the brink of Euro cups, and perhaps they will be able to get into the top 4, simply because I don’t see who could compete with them, that Fiorentina be able to maintain their current positions for a long time, I find it hard to believe, Roma and Lazio are somewhere in the middle of the standings.

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October 09, 2023, 03:53:50 PM
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It depends on how you look at things because before this game Roma has won only two out of their seven games and I think it was anything but expected that they will win this game scoring four goals. Roma lost 4-1 against Genoa a few weeks ago, which isn't quite a strong team either.

But there have already been rumors that Mourinho could soon be sacked if he doesn't win the games now, but with this one I assume he will have some more time, if that is what he wants. In an interview he said that the doors in Saudi Arabia are always open for him. Maybe that is what he really wants in secret and he could keep his promise to stay with Roma and if he gets sacked, he can still say that he wanted to but the club didn't let him.
Apart from the 4-1  defeat against Girona, Roma have been brilliant I'm the previous league matches and I believe this win would build their confidence level more to win more games, well it seems he team is gradually discovering their form and that's why they've been performing better lately and their key player Lukaku would had scored a hat-trick if not for the chances they missed in the game.
 
 Well I came along a news saying Mourinho would welcome the idea of coaching the Saudi Pro team  but I doubt if the news is really true, but if its true, alot of of fans would be happy to see him leave the club for a new managers arrival, well I think Mourinho would  continue to coach Roma probably for another season before he fininally leave to another league.

I am confused. I have now been looking at the Serie A table for 10 times and what I see is that Roma could not win 5 of their 8 games in the league. I don't know how you define the word brilliant, but from what I understand brilliant would apply if they won let's say maybe 90% of their games. How you draw the conclusion that Roma is doing brilliantly in the league is incomprehensible for me. But maybe that's just your opinion and I am ok with that.

But if we assume that Roma has been doing brilliantly, what would you call Milan's performance then? Help me out because I am stuck with definitions and I am sure you know how to get me out of there.

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October 09, 2023, 04:31:24 PM
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The team clearly have inside problems as I am not seeing any harmony between the players and their key player despite scoring the goal is not feeling welcomed anymore in the team,he is looking to go away and when he does it will be even more trouble for Napoli.
The owners of Napoli do not look to be very interested in winning the title this season because I feel like they contributed in creation of many of the internal problems limiting the teams performance, some players in the team have not been kept happy. If Victor Osimhen did not score the penalty today, maybe another video of him being another kind of nut would have been made and allowed to even be post. The Italian league this season is between AC Milan and Inter Milan, they are already battling for it.

I know but I would not exclude Juventus,they are doing pretty well too and with the errors that Inter made and Milan before this season of Serie A is more open than ever.As I said I totally exclude Napoli as a title contender this season as they need to fix the internal problems first and we all know the internal problems are the most difficult ones to solve,they also take a lot of time in order to completely get rid of them.By getting rid of them I mean to make every player happy in the team and this is a monumental task that is why I exclude Napoli from the title fight.We should also capitalize on them not winning especially away games.
Yes, I really agree with your opinion that at this time Napoli may not be a strong challenger anymore like last season because there are still several problems that Osimhen doesn't seem to have resolved satisfactorily and these problems will definitely affect the player's enthusiasm to perform like last season and from Napoli's poor performance, several other top clubs are trying to take advantage of this situation, such as Inter and Milan, who are currently really confident in trying to get the Scudetto title and also Juventus is one of the big clubs that will continue to increase its points to become a strong competitor for Inter.
I don't doubt whether Napoli can return to what they were last season but it all depends on the coach even yesterday's defeat made fans very disappointed and if Napoli are still inconsistent I'm pretty sure Inter will be the leaders of Serie A this season to get the Scudetto title.

Napoli can't have a good performance in this season as we saw from then in the past because the other teams like Juventus won't have problems and dreams like they had in the past and Inter Milan is more stable and get better results.
Also, Napoli is using a coach like Rudi Garcia who didn't have a good performance in the last season and I think Napli will not even be in the first 3-4 teams of Serie A at the end of this season.

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October 09, 2023, 04:32:07 PM
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Rudi Garcia will be highly criticized for sure if Napoli can't stay in the title competition this season. The gap with the leader Milan has already reached 7 points after leaving 8 weeks behind. When we look at Napoli's goal statistics they seem really good actually. They can score easily and concede nearly the same as the leader.

However they just can't reflect this onto the scores of their games. Rudi Garcia had better think about a formula to solve this inconsistency problem. The fans must be really expectant after seeing how dominant they were in the previous season.
That's right, fans criticism will be unstoppable if Rudi Garcia fails to maintain the Scdetto this season, even worse if Napoli finishes outside the UCL zone at the end of the season. The difference of 7 points is quite big in my opinion, goal productivity doesn't mean anything if you don't close the match without 3 points. It is true that Rudi Garcia has to make extra efforts to restore Napoli performance to last season's, they must immediately forget the two home defeats to Madrid and Fiorentina and bounce back in the next match.

On the other hand, Milan, Inter and Juventus are competing fiercely at the top of the Serie A standings this season. I think these three clubs will take turns leading the standings in the following weeks. Juventus should be able to do this because they only play in domestic competitions, where Milan and Inter have busier schedules.

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That's right, fans criticism will be unstoppable if Rudi Garcia fails to maintain the Scdetto this season, even worse if Napoli finishes outside the UCL zone at the end of the season. The difference of 7 points is quite big in my opinion, goal productivity doesn't mean anything if you don't close the match without 3 points. It is true that Rudi Garcia has to make extra efforts to restore Napoli performance to last season's, they must immediately forget the two home defeats to Madrid and Fiorentina and bounce back in the next match.
Do you think Napoli are being affected by bad handling from Rudi Garcia? Because if we cast our minds back to that incident that led Osimhen to being the laughingstock of Napoli, we saw how the coach made a change that was not so pleasing, bringing in another attacker and removing Osimhen whereas he(Rudi) should have brought in another attacker to support the Nigerian. Or should we say the team is being affected by Osimhen? Because in football, there's a lot of criticisms and if Rudi continues to give unproductive results, his job could well be hanging and this can be fueled by the fans.

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October 09, 2023, 04:39:18 PM
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napoli vs fiorentina match napoli lost badly, fiorentina won by a huge margin of 1-3 goals. There was plenty of attacking from both sides at the start of the game and the game was tied at 1-1 until the first half. Moreover, the match was at Fiorentina's home ground, due to which they were able to attack strongly and their attacks were accurate and successful. Fiorentina played exceptionally well because of which Napoli couldn't cope with them and they lost the match after a full game. Although Fiorentina went ahead with a goal in the second half, 90+3 went into extra time and Napoli lost 1-3. Fiorentina took the fourth position in the points table after winning the match against Napoli with a strong attack at home. And napoli lost the match against fiorentina to occupy the fifth position, the match between the two teams had an attacking game, and the game was really great.
In this match, the Napoli team lost so badly because of the bad performance of the players of the Napoli team. Before the start of the game, I thought that the Napoli team would win this match, but after the start of the game, I saw that the Napoli team could not attack strongly. The players of the Fiorentina team  Their good play added a lot of fun to the match. 3 goals win is really a big win for Fiorentina team.


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October 09, 2023, 05:06:54 PM
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That's right, fans criticism will be unstoppable if Rudi Garcia fails to maintain the Scdetto this season, even worse if Napoli finishes outside the UCL zone at the end of the season. The difference of 7 points is quite big in my opinion, goal productivity doesn't mean anything if you don't close the match without 3 points. It is true that Rudi Garcia has to make extra efforts to restore Napoli performance to last season's, they must immediately forget the two home defeats to Madrid and Fiorentina and bounce back in the next match.
Do you think Napoli are being affected by bad handling from Rudi Garcia? Because if we cast our minds back to that incident that led Osimhen to being the laughingstock of Napoli, we saw how the coach made a change that was not so pleasing, bringing in another attacker and removing Osimhen whereas he(Rudi) should have brought in another attacker to support the Nigerian. Or should we say the team is being affected by Osimhen? Because in football, there's a lot of criticisms and if Rudi continues to give unproductive results, his job could well be hanging and this can be fueled by the fans.

Still we can't say that Garcia's failure is the fault of Napoli's performance. In fact, last season Napoli won the title with a great performance, so our expectations from Napoli this season are very high. But just because Napoli won the title last season, it cannot be said that Napoli will win the title this season too. Inter Milan, Juventus and AC Milan have stronger squads than Napoli. And they have performed well this season. And so naturally Napoli fell behind. I consider it a typical Napoli performance.
Garcia needs more time to stabilize the team. Garcia did not get a chance to build the squad to his liking. I'd say Garcia, given enough time and opportunities, can bring stability to Napoli's performance. However, Napoli are not favorites for this season's title.

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October 09, 2023, 05:17:23 PM
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In the game between Inter Milan and Bologna in this week, a sad thing happened for Inter Milan and they lost two points against Bologna by a 2-2 result they got in this match.
Bologna couldn't perform well and Inter Milan had a much better performance in the game we saw from them, one goal from Bologna was from a penalty kick and this team was motivated enough to have a comeback and score another goal against Inter Milan.
Now Inter Milan got 19 points in the eight games they had.


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October 09, 2023, 05:49:12 PM
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Do you think Napoli are being affected by bad handling from Rudi Garcia? Because if we cast our minds back to that incident that led Osimhen to being the laughingstock of Napoli, we saw how the coach made a change that was not so pleasing, bringing in another attacker and removing Osimhen whereas he(Rudi) should have brought in another attacker to support the Nigerian. Or should we say the team is being affected by Osimhen? Because in football, there's a lot of criticisms and if Rudi continues to give unproductive results, his job could well be hanging and this can be fueled by the fans.
Absolutely yes, Napoli have bad performance after managing by Rudi Garcia after getting three loss on all competition such as 2 loss in domestic league and 1 loss in UEFA Champion League. Napoli not really quit well performance this season in domestic league, they have loss 2 of 8 matches and 2 draw with 4 winning matches. I don't think with Serie A winner last season have left behind 7 points from top standings position teams AC Milan. Not only about bad performance with Napoli but also Rudi Garcia can't manage well with Victor Osimhen goal productivities in this season, although have scored 6 goals of 8 matches seems still less goal productivity depend as Osimhen is Serie A top scorer last season. Rudi Garcia must back Napoli to the top performance and make few points gap with top standings position if want still in Serie A tittle race or the have forget for defending their Serie A tittle last season.

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October 09, 2023, 05:57:46 PM
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In the game between Inter Milan and Bologna in this week, a sad thing happened for Inter Milan and they lost two points against Bologna by a 2-2 result they got in this match.
Bologna couldn't perform well and Inter Milan had a much better performance in the game we saw from them, one goal from Bologna was from a penalty kick and this team was motivated enough to have a comeback and score another goal against Inter Milan.
Now Inter Milan got 19 points in the eight games they had.


Bologna was too resilient against Inter Milan and didn't allow them to pick all three points from the Italian Serie A game they played. Inter Milan before the game were the best club in the league as they were at the top of the league table but that didn't stop Bologna from putting out a good performance in that game and earning themselves a draw in that game.
It's still early days in the Italian Serie A and despite the result between the two clubs, Inter Milan can still bounce back to the top of the league if they continue to win more matches.

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October 09, 2023, 05:58:13 PM
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Do you think Napoli are being affected by bad handling from Rudi Garcia? Because if we cast our minds back to that incident that led Osimhen to being the laughingstock of Napoli, we saw how the coach made a change that was not so pleasing, bringing in another attacker and removing Osimhen whereas he(Rudi) should have brought in another attacker to support the Nigerian. Or should we say the team is being affected by Osimhen? Because in football, there's a lot of criticisms and if Rudi continues to give unproductive results, his job could well be hanging and this can be fueled by the fans.
Absolutely yes, Napoli have bad performance after managing by Rudi Garcia after getting three loss on all competition such as 2 loss in domestic league and 1 loss in UEFA Champion League. Napoli not really quit well performance this season in domestic league, they have loss 2 of 8 matches and 2 draw with 4 winning matches. I don't think with Serie A winner last season have left behind 7 points from top standings position teams AC Milan. Not only about bad performance with Napoli but also Rudi Garcia can't manage well with Victor Osimhen goal productivities in this season, although have scored 6 goals of 8 matches seems still less goal productivity depend as Osimhen is Serie A top scorer last season. Rudi Garcia must back Napoli to the top performance and make few points gap with top standings position if want still in Serie A tittle race or the have forget for defending their Serie A tittle last season.

The new coach has just taken over. He should not be called a failure now. We all call Luciano Spalletti a successful coach. But when he took over Napoli, we didn't see a great performance from Napoli in the first season. Gradually he strengthened the party. And the team eventually won the previous season's title. Garcia took charge of the team not long ago. Garcia should be given more time. Gradually, maybe he will be able to make the team more stable. Napoli have played 10 matches since Garcia took over as coach. Napoli team won 5. I believe that even if the Napoli team does not win the title this year, they will be in the top four of the points table.

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That's right, fans criticism will be unstoppable if Rudi Garcia fails to maintain the Scdetto this season, even worse if Napoli finishes outside the UCL zone at the end of the season. The difference of 7 points is quite big in my opinion, goal productivity doesn't mean anything if you don't close the match without 3 points. It is true that Rudi Garcia has to make extra efforts to restore Napoli performance to last season's, they must immediately forget the two home defeats to Madrid and Fiorentina and bounce back in the next match.
Do you think Napoli are being affected by bad handling from Rudi Garcia? Because if we cast our minds back to that incident that led Osimhen to being the laughingstock of Napoli, we saw how the coach made a change that was not so pleasing, bringing in another attacker and removing Osimhen whereas he(Rudi) should have brought in another attacker to support the Nigerian. Or should we say the team is being affected by Osimhen? Because in football, there's a lot of criticisms and if Rudi continues to give unproductive results, his job could well be hanging and this can be fueled by the fans.

Still we can't say that Garcia's failure is the fault of Napoli's performance. In fact, last season Napoli won the title with a great performance, so our expectations from Napoli this season are very high. But just because Napoli won the title last season, it cannot be said that Napoli will win the title this season too. Inter Milan, Juventus and AC Milan have stronger squads than Napoli. And they have performed well this season. And so naturally Napoli fell behind. I consider it a typical Napoli performance.
Garcia needs more time to stabilize the team. Garcia did not get a chance to build the squad to his liking. I'd say Garcia, given enough time and opportunities, can bring stability to Napoli's performance. However, Napoli are not favorites for this season's title.
You may have a point about giving Garcia time but will the board and fabs be willing to exercise much patience with him? Don't you think that was the main reason behind Luciano Spalletti throwing in the towel after winning the Scudetto last season?

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Still we can't say that Garcia's failure is the fault of Napoli's performance. In fact, last season Napoli won the title with a great performance, so our expectations from Napoli this season are very high. But just because Napoli won the title last season, it cannot be said that Napoli will win the title this season too. Inter Milan, Juventus and AC Milan have stronger squads than Napoli. And they have performed well this season. And so naturally Napoli fell behind. I consider it a typical Napoli performance.
Garcia needs more time to stabilize the team. Garcia did not get a chance to build the squad to his liking. I'd say Garcia, given enough time and opportunities, can bring stability to Napoli's performance. However, Napoli are not favorites for this season's title.
You may have a point about giving Garcia time but will the board and fabs be willing to exercise much patience with him? Don't you think that was the main reason behind Luciano Spalletti throwing in the towel after winning the Scudetto last season?

I think when the board makes the analysis what counts is whether Napoli is without chances and plays bad soccer, but do they really? If I see this more or less correctly, Napoli has problems with using their chances and scoring goals at the moment. It is also true that they are not as dominant and as determined last season. But I am not sure if the board is convinced that changing the coach would also change their situation. This is what they will be thinking about, similar to the problem that Manchester United has. Will changing the coach also improve the team?

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