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October 10, 2023, 11:37:33 PM
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Rudi Garcia may be a good coach, but there are some problems in Napoli that cause the team to be in such a bad ranking. Even though they have won 4 in 8 matches so far, losing at home is unacceptable and it is too bad that they are in fifth place. Compared to last year, they managed to keep the important players of the team in the team. I thought they would be in an important ranking this year too, but they have played very poorly in some places so far.

Napoli this season is totally different from the Napoli last season, were on fire when they lifted the scudetto last season. Probably having difficulty in winning games this season, all these struggles originates from the former manager, Luciano Spalleti resigning from his position as headcoach, leaving Napoli with no option than to scout out replacement for him, apparently they appointed the former Al Nassr boss, Rudi Garcia as the new manager. He's finding out time to fit into the system of Italian football because the game pattern in Seria A is quite different from Saudi Pro League. He needs time to adapt and make proper mappings on the team.

Of course, it may need time, but I think how can this team, which won the Scudetto last year, be so bad this year? Actually, they are not too bad, but there is a serious difference compared to last year. That's why Napoli fans are so upset. They were expecting to become champions this year as well and they have experienced surprising points losses so far.

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October 10, 2023, 11:40:42 PM
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Fiorentina played well against them, yes. But Napoli left out some great chances and Osimhen had two opportunities to give the game a different turn, but he missed it. I thin Fiorentina has done a great job then to make use of the few big opportunities they had and they scored. Those goals were always in the right moments when Napoli was about to increase their pressure. I still would say it is too early to come up with conclusions on whether or not Napoli is about to face a bad season. I think they are still trying to find their best form and you can see when the are building up pressure, it is still the old Napoli from last season. Their problem is that they miss a lot of chances and they can't sustain the pressure for very long because their defense is more prone to mistakes than last season.

In almost every game you can find moments when one of the teams could turn the game around or seriously change its course. We need to look at more general indicators, and here, in my opinion, everything is obvious - Napoli has only 50% of victories and this is definitely not the Napoli that won almost every game last season. As for the prospects for the season, if Fiorentina or Atalanta do not push Napoli out of the top 4, then it will be a normal season, not a failure.

Yes but I think that's another point of contention here. Too many people think that the last season should be the standard by which Napoli's performance this season is measured. While it's ok for people to think that way, I think it also makes sense to acknowledge that last season was anything but normal for Napoli and for any team that would or could have played like that. A score of 16 wins, 2 draws and 1 loss is outstanding and the probability of failing to achieve that again next season is almost 100%. The Serie A teams are too equal. It is not like the times when Juventus dominated every year and were literally unstoppable.

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October 10, 2023, 11:59:55 PM
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This match will be the most important game for this week in Serie A because now both teams AC Milan and Juventus are in good form and it can be a little bit hard to predict this match.
In the five last games they had against each other Juventus won only one game and they had two draws while AC Milan won the other two games and this can give even more chance for AC Milan to win that match.
Absolutely not a fact. Taking into account the statistics of recent games between teams such as Milan and Juventus is not the most promising occupation, especially since it is only the beginning of the season and the result of the match will not have a fatal effect on the tournament prospects of both teams. Both teams will be completely separately tuned to the match itself, and not to any statistics there. And yet I will give some preference to Milan.
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October 11, 2023, 01:47:09 AM
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Currently, Napoli is considering sacking coach Rudi Garcia, of course this is allegedly because the results obtained in the last few matches have not been very satisfactory. In the last 10 matches, Napoli achieved 5 wins, 2 draws and 3 losses, of course that is not a good result for the defending Serie champions last season. The owner of Napoli seems dissatisfied with the performance of coach Rudi Garcia and we have often discussed it here that choosing an inexperienced coach like Rudi Garcia will only make Napoli worse off and unable to maintain their performance like the previous season. Maybe this is too soon for Napoli but they must act quickly to determine Rudi Garcia's next fate. Do you think this is the right decision for Napoli to fire Rudi Garcia and does anyone still hope that Rudi Garcia can improve Napoli in the future?
I think we can understand that Napoli owner wants to consider for sacking Rudi Garcia. Napoli performance isn't as expected, they even lost many points when they played against smaller teams. It is something that never happened in the previous season when Napoli was under Luciano Spalletti's management. There are some problems in Napoli squad now. They looks to have not effective tactics and they players' mentality is decreasing much. Napoli players are no longer to have winning mentality. Also, with the tactics made by Rudi Garcia, some players seem not happy because they can optimize their abilities. So, since these are the responsibility of the coach, I don't blame Napoli owner to consider sacking Rudi Garcia. It may be too early, but Napoli owner wants to try a change for Napoli performance soon.

Perhaps what is most visible is that their mentality has begun to decline drastically, causing Napoli to often lose points. Against small teams they should still be able to maximize their efforts to at least make a comeback if they fall behind first. On the other hand, I think Rudi Garcia's coaching style is not suitable, resulting in a less harmonious relationship with his players and if it's like this, the Napoli owner must move quickly so that key players like Osimhen don't leave next winter. Moreover, internal problems with the club must also be cleared up because it is impossible for them to continue doing this when their important players want to stay longer.

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October 11, 2023, 04:00:26 AM
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Rudi Garcia may be a good coach, but there are some problems in Napoli that cause the team to be in such a bad ranking. Even though they have won 4 in 8 matches so far, losing at home is unacceptable and it is too bad that they are in fifth place. Compared to last year, they managed to keep the important players of the team in the team. I thought they would be in an important ranking this year too, but they have played very poorly in some places so far.

Napoli this season is totally different from the Napoli last season, were on fire when they lifted the scudetto last season. Probably having difficulty in winning games this season, all these struggles originates from the former manager, Luciano Spalleti resigning from his position as headcoach, leaving Napoli with no option than to scout out replacement for him, apparently they appointed the former Al Nassr boss, Rudi Garcia as the new manager. He's finding out time to fit into the system of Italian football because the game pattern in Seria A is quite different from Saudi Pro League. He needs time to adapt and make proper mappings on the team.
After a great finish last season we expected Napoli to better themselves in the new season but we haven't seen a good performance from them at the start of the season. Last season we saw Napoli qualify for the quarter-finals of the Champions League and they looked set to progress to the semi-finals but this season they have a tougher challenge going into the next round. 
I don't want to make any predictions about this team right now because there is still enough time in the season that they can certainly turn around next time. Even if there is enough time, the problem for them is that at the moment other teams are way ahead of them in points, even if they are consistent later on, recovering these points will be a very challenging issue for them.

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October 11, 2023, 04:22:09 AM
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Rudi Garcia may be a good coach, but there are some problems in Napoli that cause the team to be in such a bad ranking. Even though they have won 4 in 8 matches so far, losing at home is unacceptable and it is too bad that they are in fifth place. Compared to last year, they managed to keep the important players of the team in the team. I thought they would be in an important ranking this year too, but they have played very poorly in some places so far.

Napoli this season is totally different from the Napoli last season, were on fire when they lifted the scudetto last season. Probably having difficulty in winning games this season, all these struggles originates from the former manager, Luciano Spalleti resigning from his position as headcoach, leaving Napoli with no option than to scout out replacement for him, apparently they appointed the former Al Nassr boss, Rudi Garcia as the new manager. He's finding out time to fit into the system of Italian football because the game pattern in Seria A is quite different from Saudi Pro League. He needs time to adapt and make proper mappings on the team.

I wish Spaletti, who knew the team better and had a strong bond with the team, had not left. He left his position, thinking that a better coach would replace him, but it seems that the situation did not turn out as he expected. Maybe it would have been like this again if Spaletti had stayed, but at least he would have fought together again this year with the good squad he created last year and brought that ambition to the team again.
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October 11, 2023, 05:52:58 AM
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Actually, I don't think there is a problem in terms of players of Napoli because the majority of players this season and last season are not too different, but Rudi's leadership style still cannot provide something good for Napoli, especially when it is a heavy burden when entrusted as a replacement for Spalletti, who is considered a hero because he managed to bring the Scudetto after a long time, obviously this will affect the performance of Rudi Garcia.
Currently rumours of dismissal have echoed and indeed I think this will be a problem for Napoli and Rudi Garcia himself if indeed he still has the same performance then there is no other way for Napoli to maintain a coach who cannot lift the club's performance as before even though the change of coach is also not necessarily the right choice.
There is no problem indeed for Napoli players because most of the players are still the same as before because they also did not overhaul the players on a large scale which made the composition of the players remain the same, it's just that I agree with you when saying the problem in management. It's an undeniable fact that Rudi's quality can't compete with Spalletti's even though the scheme and players are the same but when the touch is different then the results will also be different.

In addition, the internal also heated up a little some time ago even though it has been dampened but the internal problems that occurred in Osimhen must be slightly reduced now so that Napoli has a much better condition in terms of communication.

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October 11, 2023, 07:01:13 AM
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When the match week arrives, I think there will be one match that everyone will be looking forward to as much as I am, and that is the result of Milan vs Juventus. Milan has started really well this year and there is an important obstacle for them to continue this good start. This obstacle is not an easy one. Milan, which continues to lead the league with 7 wins in 8 matches, will want to win this match and continue its leadership. We can say that it won't be an easy match for both teams, but I think Juventus is the more advantageous team, even if we think that they don't have the advantage. The reason is that Milan will travel to PSG 3 days after this match. We can think that Juventus will focus more on the match because it is not a European Cup match. Considering that Milan has 2 draws in the champions league group, they will have to focus more on the PSG match if they want to get out of the group.
The AC Milan vs Juventus match will indeed be the match most people are looking forward to in Serie A. But who will be the favorite in this match is actually quite difficult to predict. AC Milan actually has home advantage. Because the match will be held at the San Siro Stadium. However, as you said, currently Juventus' match schedule is not too busy so Juventus should be able to focus more on winning the match against AC Milan.
A draw like this could happen in this match. Remembering that in the last 5 meetings these two teams had 2 draws. It is possible that this match will be the third draw in the last 6 meetings.

But maybe I'll have some fun by betting on La Vecchia Signora  Wink

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October 11, 2023, 07:49:47 AM
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When the match week arrives, I think there will be one match that everyone will be looking forward to as much as I am, and that is the result of Milan vs Juventus. Milan has started really well this year and there is an important obstacle for them to continue this good start. This obstacle is not an easy one. Milan, which continues to lead the league with 7 wins in 8 matches, will want to win this match and continue its leadership. We can say that it won't be an easy match for both teams, but I think Juventus is the more advantageous team, even if we think that they don't have the advantage. The reason is that Milan will travel to PSG 3 days after this match. We can think that Juventus will focus more on the match because it is not a European Cup match. Considering that Milan has 2 draws in the champions league group, they will have to focus more on the PSG match if they want to get out of the group.

Currently Milan is at the top of the standings in the Italian league with 21 points while Juventus is in third place with 17 points, only 4 points different from Milan and next week Milan will face a difficult match in a short time, of course it be a difficult job for Stefano Pioli because Milan must try hard not to lose points in the match with these two clubs, but I am sure that Stefano Pioli has prepared a mature strategy to face this match, winning the Italian league title and qualifying for the next round in the Champions League is a tough jobs for Milan and The Milan squad must be able to appear impressive in this matches.

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October 11, 2023, 07:50:19 AM
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There is no problem indeed for Napoli players because most of the players are still the same as before because they also did not overhaul the players on a large scale which made the composition of the players remain the same, it's just that I agree with you when saying the problem in management. It's an undeniable fact that Rudi's quality can't compete with Spalletti's even though the scheme and players are the same but when the touch is different then the results will also be different.

In addition, the internal also heated up a little some time ago even though it has been dampened but the internal problems that occurred in Osimhen must be slightly reduced now so that Napoli has a much better condition in terms of communication.
However, in football the influence of the coach's tactics is very large in determining the performance of a team and it cannot be denied that Rudi Garcia's tactics do not seem to suit the current Napoli players so there is a very big difference in the Napoli team's game when compared to last season. coached by Spalletti.

And it is true that the team's problems with Osimhen also have an impact on this star player, especially with the team's performance becoming increasingly consistent, making speculation that Osimhen no longer feels at home in the Napoli team and wants to leave, I think that's a natural thing.

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October 11, 2023, 07:58:35 AM
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The AC Milan vs Juventus match will indeed be the match most people are looking forward to in Serie A. But who will be the favorite in this match is actually quite difficult to predict. AC Milan actually has home advantage. Because the match will be held at the San Siro Stadium. However, as you said, currently Juventus' match schedule is not too busy so Juventus should be able to focus more on winning the match against AC Milan.
A draw like this could happen in this match. Remembering that in the last 5 meetings these two teams had 2 draws. It is possible that this match will be the third draw in the last 6 meetings.
I think this is a big challenge for Milan and Juventus. I'm also not sure who should be the favorite in this big match, but Milan, who is playing at home, seems to have a home advantage that can be exploited. Milan will certainly struggle to maintain first position after Inter slipped due to the draw against Bologna, but I'm sure Milan's job will not be easy because Juventus has actually been better in form this season.

Milan has a bigger chance of winning the match, but there are doubts that Juventus can also get points in the away match. Both teams have the potential to win the match, but what is clear is that it will be very difficult for us to guess who will win it. I hope Milan can win it with hard work, but a draw seems impossible to ignore.

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October 11, 2023, 08:06:41 AM
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However, in football the influence of the coach's tactics is very large in determining the performance of a team and it cannot be denied that Rudi Garcia's tactics do not seem to suit the current Napoli players so there is a very big difference in the Napoli team's game when compared to last season. coached by Spalletti.

And it is true that the team's problems with Osimhen also have an impact on this star player, especially with the team's performance becoming increasingly consistent, making speculation that Osimhen no longer feels at home in the Napoli team and wants to leave, I think that's a natural thing.
Well at this point it's either Rudi Garcia  changes his gameplay to suit the standard of players he's got and get them to start performing their best again or just resign to save himself the embarrassement of getting fired by the board, because his tactics and gameplay is no where compared to that of Luciano Spalletti's and sooner or later the board would start thinking of a replacement for his managerial position.

 Well I don't blame Osimhen for any actions he's taking cause he was one of the reasons they won the league trophy last season but they still ridicled him on social media when he missed a penalty this season, how I understand Osimhen and Rudi Garcia had fallen out severally this season, all this ongoings could make a player take his mind off the team and want to go continue his career in a place where he's more welcomed.

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October 11, 2023, 09:00:08 AM
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When the match week arrives, I think there will be one match that everyone will be looking forward to as much as I am, and that is the result of Milan vs Juventus. Milan has started really well this year and there is an important obstacle for them to continue this good start. This obstacle is not an easy one. Milan, which continues to lead the league with 7 wins in 8 matches, will want to win this match and continue its leadership. We can say that it won't be an easy match for both teams, but I think Juventus is the more advantageous team, even if we think that they don't have the advantage. The reason is that Milan will travel to PSG 3 days after this match. We can think that Juventus will focus more on the match because it is not a European Cup match. Considering that Milan has 2 draws in the champions league group, they will have to focus more on the PSG match if they want to get out of the group.
The AC Milan vs Juventus match will indeed be the match most people are looking forward to in Serie A. But who will be the favorite in this match is actually quite difficult to predict. AC Milan actually has home advantage. Because the match will be held at the San Siro Stadium. However, as you said, currently Juventus' match schedule is not too busy so Juventus should be able to focus more on winning the match against AC Milan.
A draw like this could happen in this match. Remembering that in the last 5 meetings these two teams had 2 draws. It is possible that this match will be the third draw in the last 6 meetings.

But maybe I'll have some fun by betting on La Vecchia Signora  Wink
It will be a serious battle because both clubs are very strong right now. But I think that Milan will win not only because they will play at home, but also because Milan have only one defeat this season, and all other matches have been won. Of course you can't analyse this game on these indicators, but I think that Milan are much stronger now.

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October 11, 2023, 09:03:34 AM
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This year's Napoli is a different Napoli compared to last year's
unfortunately there are many factors that have broken the magic, many have realized it
I'm also seeing that there isn't much chemistry between the team and the coach and this is not a good thing at all for the team's performance
The changes that occurred at Napoli were caused by a change of coach, resulting in their strength and style of play changing to the same as when coached by Spalletti. Rudi Garcia did not start with the approach taken by Spalletti and his strategy was not varied when implementing it and did not have creativity in combining players so that when he lost he was unable to replace the right player. It was proven that when Osimhen failed to take a penalty kick he was very angry and replaced him, even though many world class players failed to take a penalty kick but the coach did not immediately come to the conclusion to replace him.

This season will be much more difficult for Napoli and they don't even look like the defending champions in Serie-A. It is very likely that if Rudi Garcia does not produce positive results in the next few matches, there is a possibility that he will be fired sooner than waiting for half the league season to take place.

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October 11, 2023, 09:21:24 AM
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The odds for the Milan - Juventus game are like this:

Milan: 2.30   Juventus: 3.20

Maybe the odds would have been a little closer to each other but it is still fair I think. Because Milan have won all of their home games so far and they are in the lead in the standings as well. They only lost to Inter which was a really huge one. But it still didn't affect them much mentally. That has been the only point loss for them so far. They just can't underestimate Juventus on one hand because Juventus are also impressive this season. If we see the usual Milan they should at least be winning by one goal.  Smiley

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October 11, 2023, 10:35:57 AM
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The odds for the Milan - Juventus game are like this:

Milan: 2.30   Juventus: 3.20

Maybe the odds would have been a little closer to each other but it is still fair I think. Because Milan have won all of their home games so far and they are in the lead in the standings as well. They only lost to Inter which was a really huge one. But it still didn't affect them much mentally. That has been the only point loss for them so far. They just can't underestimate Juventus on one hand because Juventus are also impressive this season. If we see the usual Milan they should at least be winning by one goal.  Smiley
The match will be very interesting, both teams that will meet will target victory to maintain their position. The chances given are almost equal and a draw is very likely in this match. But I am worried about AC Milan, I mean when they face strong and balanced teams they usually struggle and they seem confused about what to do. We saw that in their match against Inter Milan.
I just hope that won't happen to them in this match, because it will be very detrimental to them. If they can't win, then even 1 point is very valuable in a big match like this.

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October 11, 2023, 11:12:25 AM
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The match will be very interesting, both teams that will meet will target victory to maintain their position. The chances given are almost equal and a draw is very likely in this match. But I am worried about AC Milan, I mean when they face strong and balanced teams they usually struggle and they seem confused about what to do. We saw that in their match against Inter Milan.
I just hope that won't happen to them in this match, because it will be very detrimental to them. If they can't win, then even 1 point is very valuable in a big match like this.
Seria A is difficult and filled with high competition from these elite and average clubs, witnessed it in several games. The big game coming up after international break this weekend,  we should prepare ourselves for this game. Stadio Giuseppe Meazza is home-ground for Rossoneri to conquered their opponents. Perhaps Milan manager, Stefano Pioli have arranged good mappings towards Massimiliano Allegri because it's extremely a tough game to decides the winner. AC Milan are ranked first on the table and have also made winning the scudetto their priority this season, this time they won't afford to back out.
 

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October 11, 2023, 11:25:01 AM
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The odds for the Milan - Juventus game are like this:

Milan: 2.30   Juventus: 3.20

Maybe the odds would have been a little closer to each other but it is still fair I think. Because Milan have won all of their home games so far and they are in the lead in the standings as well. They only lost to Inter which was a really huge one. But it still didn't affect them much mentally. That has been the only point loss for them so far. They just can't underestimate Juventus on one hand because Juventus are also impressive this season. If we see the usual Milan they should at least be winning by one goal.  Smiley
In terms of strength, Milan and Juventus have a slight difference, Milan has better statistics this season than Juventus. Both have experienced defeat once, Milan have never played a draw while Juventus have drawn twice. That is why the chances of the two clubs not creating a big difference even though Milan is acting as host, I predict this match will end in a draw. Because if you look closely, Milan is in trouble because they are being hit by a storm of injuries hitting the squad, while from Juventus Vlahovic and Chiesa are still in doubt about being able to appear.

The match will take place after the international break and of course injured players could potentially be available again, so it will make this derby match very interesting. On the other hand, Milan will have a difficult week after the international break, after facing Juventus, PSG and Napoli will be their next opponents. I think if Milan manages to get through these three matches without losing, they deserve to be strong contenders for the Scudetto alongside Inter.

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October 11, 2023, 12:27:30 PM
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The match will be very interesting, both teams that will meet will target victory to maintain their position. The chances given are almost equal and a draw is very likely in this match. But I am worried about AC Milan, I mean when they face strong and balanced teams they usually struggle and they seem confused about what to do. We saw that in their match against Inter Milan.
I just hope that won't happen to them in this match, because it will be very detrimental to them. If they can't win, then even 1 point is very valuable in a big match like this.
Seria A is difficult and filled with high competition from these elite and average clubs, witnessed it in several games. The big game coming up after international break this weekend,  we should prepare ourselves for this game. Stadio Giuseppe Meazza is home-ground for Rossoneri to conquered their opponents. Perhaps Milan manager, Stefano Pioli have arranged good mappings towards Massimiliano Allegri because it's extremely a tough game to decides the winner. AC Milan are ranked first on the table and have also made winning the scudetto their priority this season, this time they won't afford to back out.
 
It happens because some clubs have even strength so that it can create intense competition between them. That's what we want from a league, which does not only show 1 club that can dominate the league, but several clubs can provide an interesting spectacle. Napoli were superior last season, but this season they don't look like last season. Juventus slipped up a few times last season, but now they're starting to become more consistent. With rivalries like these, it's great entertainment for us and we'll definitely look forward to them every week.

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October 11, 2023, 01:12:18 PM
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It will be a serious battle because both clubs are very strong right now. But I think that Milan will win not only because they will play at home, but also because Milan have only one defeat this season, and all other matches have been won. Of course you can't analyse this game on these indicators, but I think that Milan are much stronger now.
The match between AC Milan vs Juventus will be a very interesting match to watch, because apart from Milan who will try to win at home, Milan is also very determined to maintain its position at the top of the standings in order to create an early gap with its rivals. But Juventus also should not be underestimated because this season Juventus also did not suffer many defeats so Milan needs to take opponents like Juventus more seriously, because Juventus will also try to take full points at home to Milan in order to be in the title competition this season.
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