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October 13, 2023, 09:22:46 AM
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hallo guys
Juventus FC - Hellas Verona FC 2023-10-28 20:45

I think Juventus FC win the game because Hellas Verona FC seems to have lost hope of being able to win and Allegri is encouraging collaboration and synergy and become much aggressive in playing.
 
In my own opinion, Juventus need to win and win this week. Of course we have other important game:

Inter - Roma
Napoli - Milan

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corner: 174 assist t: 23 assist v: 23 cross t: 465 cross v: 228 goal f: 31 goal s: 59 V: 7 P: 10 S: 21
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October 13, 2023, 09:23:06 AM
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I would say that Napoli were competitive last year, now with the actions perpetrated by the club they are reduced to a mid-table team
I don't think he'll even get to the Champions League area if he continues like this

I'm sorry, but I see this, and I'm usually not wrong
If Napoli does not immediately improve the performance of their squad then of course Napoli will definitely have difficulty getting tickets to the next Champions League. Fiorentina could even beat Napoli with a fairly convincing score. Rudi Garcia as Napoli coach must be feeling pressured at the moment. Because after all, all Napoli fans are definitely not satisfied with the performance displayed by Napoli at the start of this season. So if Rudi Garcia wants to maintain his position as coach at Napoli then he must immediately make good improvements at the Club. But I personally also doubt this.
Napoli is looking for a new coach. That's why the club needs to be patience. garcia was a complete fail for napoli and there's no hope for napoli to make a good progress under him. People shall notice it if napoli is not performing as good as before. In fact, people are also blaming napoli's decision to took garcia as a replacement for spalletti which is unacceptable decision from the club, napoli needs to find a new coach as soon as possible. There's no a lot of time for napoli caused by the club must have faced so many competitions at the same time.
Napoli needs to find someone who suitable enough to replace garcia as a new coach. Garcia must be sacked by the club as soon as possible as he was obviously useless coach that recruited by napoli.

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October 13, 2023, 09:59:19 AM
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After Paul Pogba had problems due to positive doping use, now another Juventus player, Nicolo Fagioli, is facing a new problem regarding betting reasons. Nicolo Fagioli is currently under investigation by the Turin prosecutor's office for betting on illegal platforms. I think there is no end to the problems faced by Juventus players and the future of this club from Turin is increasingly unclear. Maybe more cases will be revealed in the future and we can't stop thinking about the behavior of these players when everything is going well for the club's performance but it is not accompanied by the attitude of the players. It is even reported that Nicolo Fagioli will receive a ban of up to 3 years if found guilty.

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Juventus really can't get rid of this kind of unfortunate incidents. The previous season went on really problematic for them until the end of the season. And now they are dealing with this kind of incidents as well. At least so far this kind of incidents haven't affected their performance negatively as they have been doing good in the league.

When it comes to Paul Pogba he just ended his career on his own. First the consecutive injuries he has experienced so far and now this dope incident. I don't think there would be any big team in Europe would be likely to sign him anymore. We might see him signing for a Saudi Arabia team later on maybe.

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October 13, 2023, 10:06:10 AM
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Yes indeed, at least there is still plenty of time if Napoli changes coach now, then the new coach they recruit later will at least still have a good plan and time throughout this season. After all, Napoli current position still allows them to compete well and strongly in the top four, so replacing Garcia at this moment could be the right time. Because yes, it seems like it would be useless if Napoli still kept Garcia, because this might make Napoli get bad results again and make their position in the standings worse over time.

I don't really see Rudi Garcia as the real problem of Napoli. The club might be going through its own phase of downtime and it is understandable. Many top clubs go through the same period and a clear example is the current state of Chelsea. The French coach has just spent a few months in Naples and should be given some time to see what he can do. It might also be that the club is considering sacking him because of the disaffection between him and some key players of the club. I don't think the coach is uniting the players because of some of his actions that have triggered division in the backroom.  I heard that the club is targeting the former Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur manager Antonio Conte to replace the French coach. Conte is a good coach but he also has a record of having misunderstandings with club management and players.
There must always be someone to blame when there is a decline in performance and at this time Rudi Garcia must get it regardless of their reasons when dealing with situations like this but in the end a decline in performance will definitely be a condition where a coach especially a new coach who does not have the same fate as the previous coach will clearly become a scapegoat.

I think we agree that indeed Napoli's situation is difficult but for this condition the public and football observers will not look for something complicated when Napoli cannot play like the Spalletti era last season then indirectly the Garcia era is the one who has problems.   
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October 13, 2023, 10:10:53 AM
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I don't really see Rudi Garcia as the real problem of Napoli. The club might be going through its own phase of downtime and it is understandable. Many top clubs go through the same period and a clear example is the current state of Chelsea. The French coach has just spent a few months in Naples and should be given some time to see what he can do. It might also be that the club is considering sacking him because of the disaffection between him and some key players of the club. I don't think the coach is uniting the players because of some of his actions that have triggered division in the backroom.  I heard that the club is targeting the former Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur manager Antonio Conte to replace the French coach. Conte is a good coach but he also has a record of having misunderstandings with club management and players.
problem currently occurring in Napoli which is the cause of the decline in the team performance is not only the coach but we also have to see how the Napoli players are trying to make the best contribution to their team and for now all I know is that Napoli itself has problem with Osimhen who is Reliable and reliable player in this team, while this problem will certainly greatly affect Osimhen performance, he is not as enthusiastic as last season.

regarding Garcia, maybe I not blame him too much as the cause Napoli declining performance, its just that at the moment Garcia does not seem to be able to find bright spot to build Napoli back to what it used to be and if this all takes time, lets see if at the end of this season Garcia provides strategy the best.
I agree with you regarding Rudi Garcia guarantee at Napoli, Napoli management should give Garcia a little more time to prove his quality. However, efforts to change the coach have been made, the possibility of this happening is greater because it is directly desired by club president Aurelio De Laurentiis. Even though we know that this change does not guarantee anything for Napoli itself, it is in line with Conte's attitude of not being interested in taking over leadership midway.

On the other hand, Garcia inherited most of the players left by Luciano Spalletti who won the Scudetto last season, but Garcia still needs to adapt. However, his efforts were slow and seemed to be running in place, so club officials were furious. With Conte refusal, I doubt that Garcia will be replaced quickly.

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October 13, 2023, 10:19:36 AM
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I don't think he can do much at the moment as there are no great coaches available. Unfortunately, you pay for the mistakes you make, and you pay dearly for them.
The argument with Spalletti, the bad treatment of Victor, their best striker. I don't think it was a great strategy.
Napoli's leadership has always been arrogant, which is why they lost Spalletti. Now the relationship with Osimhen is damaged, and it seems that he is very angry, I am almost sure that he will leave the club this off-season, and perhaps he now regrets that he did not do this in the summer. After such conflicts, there will always be a tense situation in the team, and this will certainly deprive Napoli of all chances to count on the Scudetto, and it is not yet clear how this conflict with Osimhen will end.

Napoli messed things up for themselves by making such a joke of Osimhen, and now they will lose another outstanding player in the midst of their hard times. I won't blame Osimhen if he decides to leave at the end of the season; you can't stay somewhere where you're not recognised and acknowledged despite the contributions you make. Napoli must reconsider their management and make significant changes where necessary in order to compete for the Scudetto this season, because I don't see them having a chance with their current game pattern.

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October 13, 2023, 10:44:35 AM
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I don't think he can do much at the moment as there are no great coaches available. Unfortunately, you pay for the mistakes you make, and you pay dearly for them.
The argument with Spalletti, the bad treatment of Victor, their best striker. I don't think it was a great strategy.
Napoli's leadership has always been arrogant, which is why they lost Spalletti. Now the relationship with Osimhen is damaged, and it seems that he is very angry, I am almost sure that he will leave the club this off-season, and perhaps he now regrets that he did not do this in the summer. After such conflicts, there will always be a tense situation in the team, and this will certainly deprive Napoli of all chances to count on the Scudetto, and it is not yet clear how this conflict with Osimhen will end.
Napoli messed things up for themselves by making such a joke of Osimhen, and now they will lose another outstanding player in the midst of their hard times. I won't blame Osimhen if he decides to leave at the end of the season; you can't stay somewhere where you're not recognised and acknowledged despite the contributions you make. Napoli must reconsider their management and make significant changes where necessary in order to compete for the Scudetto this season, because I don't see them having a chance with their current game pattern.

Osimhen is an excellent player. And I would say Osimhen contributed the most to Napoli's title win last season. He has been excellent throughout the season, and so Napoli's performances have been very consistent. But he is not getting enough respect this season. It is highly unlikely that Osimhen will be seen at Napoli next season. I think Osimhen can join a La Liga team or PSG. PSG will probably try their hardest to add Osimhen to the squad next season.

Napoli's chances of winning the title this season are very low. The first reason is that this team's performance is erratic. You have to play consistently well to win the title. The second reason is that Inter Milan, Juventus and AC Milan are very strong this season. Competing with these three teams makes it more difficult for Napoli to win the title.

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October 13, 2023, 10:53:07 AM
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I don't think he can do much at the moment as there are no great coaches available. Unfortunately, you pay for the mistakes you make, and you pay dearly for them.
The argument with Spalletti, the bad treatment of Victor, their best striker. I don't think it was a great strategy.
Napoli's leadership has always been arrogant, which is why they lost Spalletti. Now the relationship with Osimhen is damaged, and it seems that he is very angry, I am almost sure that he will leave the club this off-season, and perhaps he now regrets that he did not do this in the summer. After such conflicts, there will always be a tense situation in the team, and this will certainly deprive Napoli of all chances to count on the Scudetto, and it is not yet clear how this conflict with Osimhen will end.
Napoli messed things up for themselves by making such a joke of Osimhen, and now they will lose another outstanding player in the midst of their hard times. I won't blame Osimhen if he decides to leave at the end of the season; you can't stay somewhere where you're not recognised and acknowledged despite the contributions you make. Napoli must reconsider their management and make significant changes where necessary in order to compete for the Scudetto this season, because I don't see them having a chance with their current game pattern.

Osimhen is an excellent player. And I would say Osimhen contributed the most to Napoli's title win last season. He has been excellent throughout the season, and so Napoli's performances have been very consistent. But he is not getting enough respect this season. It is highly unlikely that Osimhen will be seen at Napoli next season. I think Osimhen can join a La Liga team or PSG. PSG will probably try their hardest to add Osimhen to the squad next season.

Napoli's chances of winning the title this season are very low. The first reason is that this team's performance is erratic. You have to play consistently well to win the title. The second reason is that Inter Milan, Juventus and AC Milan are very strong this season. Competing with these three teams makes it more difficult for Napoli to win the title.

@BALIK I sincerely hope that Victor leaves for Real Madrid because he’ll get proper respect and the perfect stage to perform at the highest level. Furthermore I feel that it’s high time Napoli fan’s call out this arrogant management and force the management to respond to this current crisis and if they fail to do so then their season will only keep on getting worse.
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October 13, 2023, 10:54:20 AM
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I don't think he can do much at the moment as there are no great coaches available. Unfortunately, you pay for the mistakes you make, and you pay dearly for them.
The argument with Spalletti, the bad treatment of Victor, their best striker. I don't think it was a great strategy.
Napoli's leadership has always been arrogant, which is why they lost Spalletti. Now the relationship with Osimhen is damaged, and it seems that he is very angry, I am almost sure that he will leave the club this off-season, and perhaps he now regrets that he did not do this in the summer. After such conflicts, there will always be a tense situation in the team, and this will certainly deprive Napoli of all chances to count on the Scudetto, and it is not yet clear how this conflict with Osimhen will end.
Osimhen is getting worse as time goes by, whether he can't adapt or Napoli really considers Osimhen to be a quality player. Because if Napoli had been able to take advantage of last season's transfer market, they might have had players with much better performances. Honestly, I agree that Napoli management was unclear when Spalletti left, there were many setbacks, starting from the team's performance and the players who seemed to have lost balance. Being defeated by Fiorentina is a bad note because it turns out that in terms of play, Fiorentina succeeded in breaking Napoli's defense.

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October 13, 2023, 12:16:07 PM
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Yes, we realize that Napoli's performance continues to decline but we don't know whether it is because the coach is unable to handle the squad or there are other factors, but I know one of the rumors is that Osimhen is not very comfortable with Napoli because of last month's issue, issues like this may impact the team and we don't know if there are other issues. By the way there is no point in expecting Mourinho to come to Napoli because he is still under contract with Roma, so who is the more worthy coach?

In fact, the club is trying to make amends by replacing Garcia, but I honestly don`t think that that`s the only problem. I think there are multiple problems at this point and changing mid-race could be even more damaging
It`s not a good situation..

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October 13, 2023, 12:54:39 PM
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If Napoli wants to fire Rudi Garcia, I think it will likely be a blunder for them because we often see teams that frequently change coaches and certainly won't be able to make many changes in the near future. However, that is up to the Napoli owner because if he is not satisfied with Rudi Garcia performance, he could fire Rudi Garcia if Napoli loses again in the next match.
There will need to be more adaptation if Napoli changes to a new coach, but if in the next match Napoli loses against another team, I think also Garcia position will be very threatened at there. Because the next match is against Verona and it would be very unworthy if Napoli lost, but I don't think Napoli will lose anyway. Verona is not a strong team on paper and Napoli should be able to win perfectly, although they are playing away.

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October 13, 2023, 01:23:34 PM
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Yes, we realize that Napoli's performance continues to decline but we don't know whether it is because the coach is unable to handle the squad or there are other factors, but I know one of the rumors is that Osimhen is not very comfortable with Napoli because of last month's issue, issues like this may impact the team and we don't know if there are other issues. By the way there is no point in expecting Mourinho to come to Napoli because he is still under contract with Roma, so who is the more worthy coach?

In fact, the club is trying to make amends by replacing Garcia, but I honestly don`t think that that`s the only problem. I think there are multiple problems at this point and changing mid-race could be even more damaging
It`s not a good situation..

I think the problem does lie with Rudi Garcia, because it seems Rudi Garcia does not have a good way to build good chemistry and harmonization with players. Therefore, the board also cannot just be silent to deal with this problem because problems like this will certainly have a bad impact on team performance. Although yes, at least I still think that there is no problem about the application of strategy and tactics. But somehow, Napoli fans and players are not too happy with Rudi Garcia, so they want to get Rudi Garcia fired and replaced with others.

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October 13, 2023, 01:27:13 PM
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Yes indeed, at least there is still plenty of time if Napoli changes coach now, then the new coach they recruit later will at least still have a good plan and time throughout this season. After all, Napoli current position still allows them to compete well and strongly in the top four, so replacing Garcia at this moment could be the right time. Because yes, it seems like it would be useless if Napoli still kept Garcia, because this might make Napoli get bad results again and make their position in the standings worse over time.
There is still enough of time as the leagues are yet to get to their mid season, there is still enough time even before the next transfer window and so your opinion could be considered right to an extent but on the other hand don't you think that changing a coach at this time will also come with it's effect, such as the team taking another time to adjust to the new coach which may linger till the season goes far.

It's will be better if they can wait awhile and probably give the coach some more time to improve and if by the end of the season there's nothing to reckon with, he could be relieved of his duty. But the issues Napoli is facing at the moment isn't solely a coaching problem, the entire management of the team have a big role too in the problem facing the team at the moment, they are yet to resolve fully that with osimehen and that is really affecting his performance yet all blames are been pushed to the coach but then let's wait till the next transfer window and see if osimehen stays back.

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October 13, 2023, 01:55:03 PM
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I think the problem does lie with Rudi Garcia, because it seems Rudi Garcia does not have a good way to build good chemistry and harmonization with players. Therefore, the board also cannot just be silent to deal with this problem because problems like this will certainly have a bad impact on team performance. Although yes, at least I still think that there is no problem about the application of strategy and tactics. But somehow, Napoli fans and players are not too happy with Rudi Garcia, so they want to get Rudi Garcia fired and replaced with others.
Exactly, that's also my thought about the current ongoing situation at Napoli, the whole problem lies with their new manager Rudi Garcia cause he lack the quality of good connection with his players, their former manager Spalletti managed an almost similar squad and they performed brilliant and even won the Scudetto, so Garcia not doing well currently means that he's not doing the right thing or is incapable of managing the club.

 However the club owners had talks with Antonio Conte concerning taking over as the manager of the club, but according to the news the talks they had didn't produce good results cause Antonio Conte refers starting afresh next summer instead of taking over from Rudi Garcia, this is a boost for Rudi to work hard and impress the board and fans to gain their support again and retain his managerial role.
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October 13, 2023, 01:58:18 PM
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I have two considerations regarding this news:
Napoli are changing coaches too often and quickly, which is not a good sign at all. It is a profound crisis in my opinion.

Second thing, Antonio Conte is a good coach, but he demands he spends money to have a good squad, does Napoli have this money? If dont have, better not call Conte.

Napoli is the defending champion of Serie A, this is enough to be as reason why Napoli wants to change coaches as soon as possible. their current performance is very far from expectations, so taking this decision could be the right decision.

When it comes to money, I don't think Napoli will be able to follow Conte's wishes, Napoli is even suspected of manipulating financial reports (if this case really goes to trial and there is evidence). I don't think this will be done by a team with a club with healthy finances. This means, if Conte is required to buy expensive players, most of then will be rejected.

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October 13, 2023, 02:03:08 PM
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After Paul Pogba had problems due to positive doping use, now another Juventus player, Nicolo Fagioli, is facing a new problem regarding betting reasons. Nicolo Fagioli is currently under investigation by the Turin prosecutor's office for betting on illegal platforms. I think there is no end to the problems faced by Juventus players and the future of this club from Turin is increasingly unclear. Maybe more cases will be revealed in the future and we can't stop thinking about the behavior of these players when everything is going well for the club's performance but it is not accompanied by the attitude of the players. It is even reported that Nicolo Fagioli will receive a ban of up to 3 years if found guilty.

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Juventus really can't get rid of this kind of unfortunate incidents. The previous season went on really problematic for them until the end of the season. And now they are dealing with this kind of incidents as well. At least so far this kind of incidents haven't affected their performance negatively as they have been doing good in the league.

When it comes to Paul Pogba he just ended his career on his own. First the consecutive injuries he has experienced so far and now this dope incident. I don't think there would be any big team in Europe would be likely to sign him anymore. We might see him signing for a Saudi Arabia team later on maybe.
So far there hasn't been anything that has affected the club's performance, but if one by one the players have problems, won't Juventus be getting a bad image? Maybe Juventus can continue to maintain their good performance, but sometimes they also need conducive conditions so they can focus more on getting through this season. Juventus is not in any European competition and they must be willing to be fully in Serie A, although this is quite a good thing because they can focus completely on the league but of course they want to return to European competition next season with a full squad.

Paul Pogba really doesn't have any hope anymore because it is a consequence of what he has done and it is not certain that the Saudi league will accept it. Certainly the Saudi league does not want its league to be seen as bad by accepting players who have problems, especially when using doping, it could damage the image of the league they are building.
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October 13, 2023, 02:06:00 PM
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In fact, the club is trying to make amends by replacing Garcia, but I honestly don`t think that that`s the only problem. I think there are multiple problems at this point and changing mid-race could be even more damaging
It`s not a good situation..
Napoli is indeed facing a very different situation from last season, so improvements need to be made early on before Napoli experiences delays in this matter. Because in general, Napoli is not far behind some of its rivals at the start of this season, so there is still plenty of time for Garcia to make up for his mistakes. And I don't think the team management or anyone at Napoli needs to blame Garcia for the several defeats that Napoli experienced at the start of this season.

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October 13, 2023, 02:33:05 PM
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Is there any certainty that Antonio Conte will coach Napoli? because I haven't found the news because what is circulating is just rumors, there are even rumors that Antonio Conte is not interested in immediately continuing his career as a coach so there is no chance for Napoli to be coached by Conte in the near future unless there is a change, for example Napoli makes a very attractive offer such as the funds provided for player spending are also often the reason coaches are interested in coaching at the club, so it's not just about the salary they get but the ease of using money in the transfer market.
Of the eight matches, only being able to win 4 matches is not an impressive performance for the defending champion team because the pressure to defend the title is quite strong, but Rudi Garcia is not a successful coach so Napoli should have realized this from the start of his appointment that Napoli could fail to defend the title because they have a coach who is not smart enough in strategy.

I know Antonio Conte very well, since he played for the team I support: my beloved Juventus.
I can tell you that he is a good coach, he was also a good player. However, to say that he need guarantees, guarantees that you will follow his way of working and his strategies. Is the Napoli management willing?
The real problem is this with Antonio Conte. If they take it he can fix the situation.

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October 13, 2023, 02:41:09 PM
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Napoli is the defending champion of Serie A, this is enough to be as reason why Napoli wants to change coaches as soon as possible. their current performance is very far from expectations, so taking this decision could be the right decision.
They don't  have patience after winning a first Scudetto after more than 3 decades. Oh, it's their choice but good luck for them as I doubt any coach can help them to defend their Scudetto. It is nearly impossible because a perfect season like a last one does not usually happen with clubs like Napoli. In Premier League, Leicester City is an example and even Napoli are stronger than Leicester City and already belong to top clubs in Serie A many seasons, they can have decreasing performance like Leicester City.

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When it comes to money, I don't think Napoli will be able to follow Conte's wishes, Napoli is even suspected of manipulating financial reports (if this case really goes to trial and there is evidence). I don't think this will be done by a team with a club with healthy finances. This means, if Conte is required to buy expensive players, most of then will be rejected.
Conte is an ambitious coach and he wants to win titles so if things won't go well and Napoli won't satisfy his demand to buy players, he will create internal problems for Napoli. Will De Sanctis want to have Conte after he fired Spaletti?

It's hard for Conte and De Sanctis work with each other and it's hard for Napoli to satisfy Conte's transfer demand.

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October 13, 2023, 02:43:56 PM
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I have two considerations regarding this news:
Napoli are changing coaches too often and quickly, which is not a good sign at all. It is a profound crisis in my opinion.

Second thing, Antonio Conte is a good coach, but he demands he spends money to have a good squad, does Napoli have this money? If dont have, better not call Conte.

Napoli is the defending champion of Serie A, this is enough to be as reason why Napoli wants to change coaches as soon as possible. their current performance is very far from expectations, so taking this decision could be the right decision.

When it comes to money, I don't think Napoli will be able to follow Conte's wishes, Napoli is even suspected of manipulating financial reports (if this case really goes to trial and there is evidence). I don't think this will be done by a team with a club with healthy finances. This means, if Conte is required to buy expensive players, most of then will be rejected.

Defending Champions with a screwed up manager? Napoli is going nowhere near that top four clubs to qualify for the Champions League next season. Supporting the chase for a new coach, he'll yeah!

They're yet to come to agreement, (lol) You're telling us about spending. Antonio Conte will have to say yes then they can think of meeting whatever signatures he wants to introduce into the squad.
Napoli are good with making good financial decisions during transfer windows. You'll rarely see Napoli spending outrageous valuations for players. I love that strategy though.

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