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October 19, 2023, 03:06:11 PM
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I witnessed Lukaku's impressive form this season after big clubs abandoned him. The 29-year-old Belgian striker has been laughed at and criticized throughout his career. Despite doubts about his performance, Lukaku still shines regularly for AS Roma. He is proving to be a professional player. Throughout the summer, people talked a lot about him. And now his on-field performance. That's what proves the big clubs wrong.

He was criticized because he behaved like a mercenary, honestly, if he does his job and scores goals I don't understand the reason for the criticism. We all work for money, not for glory. In my opinion, whoever criticized him is a little inconsistent and stupid.

I don't understand why someone continues to criticize Lukaku when he actually has good quality talent and always makes a very good contribution every time he is at his new club, he always proves to be the best.
But I think the criticism came continuously after the incident at that time when Lukaku wanted to be made permanent by Inter Milan but was secretly close to Juventus so this behavior was considered unfair and considered an arrogant player even though it was normal behavior and did not violate the rule as long as just having closeness without having anything to hide wouldn't be a big problem.
But since that incident, Lukaku has always been doubted and some people even give him bad criticism after joining Roma.


because people just love to criticize
last year they almost lynched Allegri for example, who had to manage a team totally in emergency with a lot of injured people
everyone to criticize him without considering the very special situation

people feel like a coach without ever having coached

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October 19, 2023, 03:27:54 PM
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Napoli was a much stronger team with Osimhen and Khvicha Kvaratskhelia and especially when Luciano Spalletti was working in this team they were in the good form and this team even won the title in Serie A. But I think Napoli is losing power time after time, first Spalletti left Napoli and now Osimhen is the next effective person who is about to leave the team.  


Some things that needs to be noticed here.

1. Osimhen injured
2. Spalletti was not there.
3. No minjae in the club.

Those things are really impacting the performance from napoli. I remember last season napoli was winning the trophy but there was a thing that made me feel curious. Osimhen had also got injured at the end of previous season. The performance of napoli had been also dropping so hard.
From that i can say that if napoli is being very dependent on osimhen at this moment. Osimhen was helping napoli so many times in winning the game. Im feeling that if everything becomes even badly for napoli.

The lost against madrid then osimhen injured. Napoli is in a critical situation this time. I can't even imagine if osimhen will be absent till end of season.

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October 19, 2023, 03:32:37 PM
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Some things that needs to be noticed here.

1. Osimhen injured
2. Spalletti was not there.
3. No minjae in the club.

Those things are really impacting the performance from napoli. I remember last season napoli was winning the trophy but there was a thing that made me feel curious. Osimhen had also got injured at the end of previous season. The performance of napoli had been also dropping so hard.
From that i can say that if napoli is being very dependent on osimhen at this moment. Osimhen was helping napoli so many times in winning the game. Im feeling that if everything becomes even badly for napoli.

The lost against madrid then osimhen injured. Napoli is in a critical situation this time. I can't even imagine if osimhen will be absent till end of season.
You missed with one points important exactly Khvicha Kvaratskhelia still not on the top performed this season, looks difference with his performance last season success made Napoli winning Scudetto and this season they have loss compete for defending their domestic league trophy. Napoli have bad start in this season not only leaving by Spaletti but also not good relation with Victor Osimhen could be one reason why Napoli can't return to the top performed.

Not late for Napoli back to quit well perform and take participant in tittle race with Milan, Inter and Juventus, have many matches left and Napoli opportunity for defending their tittle last season not close yet.

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October 19, 2023, 03:33:04 PM
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Napoli was a much stronger team with Osimhen and Khvicha Kvaratskhelia and especially when Luciano Spalletti was working in this team they were in the good form and this team even won the title in Serie A. But I think Napoli is losing power time after time, first Spalletti left Napoli and now Osimhen is the next effective person who is about to leave the team.  


Some things that needs to be noticed here.

1. Osimhen injured
2. Spalletti was not there.
3. No minjae in the club.

Those things are really impacting the performance from napoli. I remember last season napoli was winning the trophy but there was a thing that made me feel curious. Osimhen had also got injured at the end of previous season. The performance of napoli had been also dropping so hard.
From that i can say that if napoli is being very dependent on osimhen at this moment. Osimhen was helping napoli so many times in winning the game. Im feeling that if everything becomes even badly for napoli.

The lost against madrid then osimhen injured. Napoli is in a critical situation this time. I can't even imagine if osimhen will be absent till end of season.


this is why I say, if you are totally dependent on a player at least treat him well
now having thrown away all the work done by Spalletti, having angered the main player, what is left to destroy?
For me it doesn't reach the Champions League

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October 19, 2023, 04:00:52 PM
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Well I don't trust their performance as well cause they're currently underperforming, well I don't know how bad is Osimhen's situation but if he's fit to play against Union Berlin in the Champions league they could win the game or get a draw since they're away from home but I doubt if they'll be able to get  3 points against Acmilan even though they'll be playing with a home advantage.
The reason is, the problem does not only lie in how Osimhen performs. However, the whole team, especially the coach's tactics. Not only that, so far, Garcia has not been able to optimize his abilities to bring or guide Napoli to become extraordinary again like Spaletti did. Many say that Garcia is still recovering and still needs time. However, how long does it take for agriculture to wait? So there must be good cooperation between the coach and the players so that tactics can really work optimally. In this case, the intensity of the good relationship between the coach and the players also really has to be solid. Because if there is a mismatch and both of them prioritize their respective egos, then no matter what, it will not be successful and optimal.
I think that some of the worries about Napoli's play under Garcia arent completely unfounded. I saw Spalletti passionately lead the team by giving them directions in real time during games, which may have made them feel better about their performance. Garcia, on the other hand, looks like he is deeply focused on his notes and not as interested in talking to people. Im worried about Napoli's chances this season in the Champions League. Still, the question is whether Garcia will step up. Getting used to a club like Napoli isnt easy, especially after someone as important as Spalletti. The bond between a coach and his or her players is very important, but there seems to be a rift between them right now. Success might not be possible if Garcia and the players cant agree on their priorities and goals. How much longer do fans have to wait?

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October 19, 2023, 04:11:08 PM
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Napoli was a much stronger team with Osimhen and Khvicha Kvaratskhelia and especially when Luciano Spalletti was working in this team they were in the good form and this team even won the title in Serie A. But I think Napoli is losing power time after time, first Spalletti left Napoli and now Osimhen is the next effective person who is about to leave the team.  


Some things that needs to be noticed here.

1. Osimhen injured
2. Spalletti was not there.
3. No minjae in the club.

Those things are really impacting the performance from napoli. I remember last season napoli was winning the trophy but there was a thing that made me feel curious. Osimhen had also got injured at the end of previous season. The performance of napoli had been also dropping so hard.
From that i can say that if napoli is being very dependent on osimhen at this moment. Osimhen was helping napoli so many times in winning the game. Im feeling that if everything becomes even badly for napoli.

The lost against madrid then osimhen injured. Napoli is in a critical situation this time. I can't even imagine if osimhen will be absent till end of season.

There are no more removed players and changes from the squad that won Napoli Italian Seria A league.  They have the fans, they have the goalscorers and those who created chance leading to goalscoring opportunities.
What has changed is the coaches and defenders,  what do the coach bring into the team,  there have been a change,  with regards to how they play and mentality. This is a much different Napoli managed by Spalletti.
Osimhen is committed and the sell of Kim min jae has not gone so wrong for Napoli.
Napoli dependency on osimhen is not even rated at fifty percent,  they have  a general team effort that supports the club.  The coach is not just using  the right tactics.

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October 19, 2023, 04:20:41 PM
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AC Milan definitely aims to continue their winning streak in Serie A as they prepare to face Juventus in their upcoming match. AC Milan is currently at the top of the table with seven wins out of eight league games and just one loss. Juventus, on the other hand, is in third place and has had a fairly good start to the campaign. Juventus is looking to continue their good form vs Milan, but Milan also have a strong recent record against Juventus, being unbeaten in their last five encounters. AC Milan will be hoping for a repeat of their previous success.
Juventus condition doesn't really good before this match because some of their players were got injured and Alex Sandro dan Mattia De Sciglio have already got injured earlier and they are still struggle to recover and besides them the players just like Federico Chiesa and Danilo confirmed will not be available for this match and do not forget too Nicolò Fagioli obviously he will be absense because of his scandal so Juventus really is not in the good situation but Vlahovic was return from his injured so he probably will be played since the beginning of match and he will together in the front lines with Milik or Moise Kean so if we compared between both teams obviously Milan much better than Juventus and after seeing the conditions between them i feel like Milan will going to win this match

Yes, it's a shame indeed, when Juventus have a target to be able to have better results this season, but in fact some of Juventus main players are also endlessly injured. Because anyway, if the Juventus situation is fine, then of course Juventus will have a great chance to be able to compete strongly in the race for the Scudetto this season. But yes, because Juventus main players continue to take turns experiencing problems and injuries, then this factor will make it difficult for Juventus to stabilize at this moment. So yes, playing against Milan will certainly still be a difficult job for Juventus, because in a situation like this Juventus cannot guarantee a winning result.

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October 19, 2023, 04:42:08 PM
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Yes, it's a shame indeed, when Juventus have a target to be able to have better results this season, but in fact some of Juventus main players are also endlessly injured. Because anyway, if the Juventus situation is fine, then of course Juventus will have a great chance to be able to compete strongly in the race for the Scudetto this season. But yes, because Juventus main players continue to take turns experiencing problems and injuries, then this factor will make it difficult for Juventus to stabilize at this moment. So yes, playing against Milan will certainly still be a difficult job for Juventus, because in a situation like this Juventus cannot guarantee a winning result.
There's a possibility that Juventus would win the match and end Acmilan's winning streak but I doubt that because of the recent happenings at Juventus that could reduce the morale of the team, but one thing I'm sure of is that it's not going to be easy for both sides even though Milan are favorites to win the game, Juventus is definitely going to give them a rough time to do so,although they'll be without some key players that would've hrelp make it easier for their team to do better.

 Acmilan is currently the best performing team in the league they've previously lost against a big side this season and their next match against Juventus is another test for them against a big side, and I'm sure alot of Milan fans would be Furious if they lose cause they're the favorites to win the game,if not for the problems ongoing at Juve I would had said they'll win buy I doubt  I'd it's going to be possible with some of their key players.
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Napoli has been doing some mistakes. The worst one might be recruiting garcia as a new appointment for the club. I had bad feeling about him even before he was coming to the napoli.
I had tracker his record as a coach and he never had great achievements. I was even questioning myself about that decision had taken by napoli. It seems like that napoli being clueless after spalletti was leaving the club.
Spalletti has become a new appoinetment for italy national club.

I wonder who's gonna be another candidate to replace him. The first offer already rejected by conte. It seems like that napoli's scouting team is still trying to discover the most suitable candidate to take the position as a head coach for napoli.
I feel that the appointment of Rudi Garcia as Napoli coach is a gamble by Napoli's management this season. You're right that Garcia doesn't have a great record in his coaching career, so it makes sense to me that a lot of people are really doubting him and Napoli this season.

Currently Napoli is in 5th place with 4 wins, 2 draws and 2 losses. The performance is sometimes good, but sometimes also bad. Napoli lost humiliatingly to Fiorentina and also Lazio, while they also lost to Real Madrid in the Champions League. There are no rumors yet about who could replace Garcia at Napoli, so he will be leading the team for some time from now.

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October 19, 2023, 05:55:08 PM
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Napoli has been doing some mistakes. The worst one might be recruiting garcia as a new appointment for the club. I had bad feeling about him even before he was coming to the napoli.
I had tracker his record as a coach and he never had great achievements. I was even questioning myself about that decision had taken by napoli. It seems like that napoli being clueless after spalletti was leaving the club.
Spalletti has become a new appoinetment for italy national club.

I wonder who's gonna be another candidate to replace him. The first offer already rejected by conte. It seems like that napoli's scouting team is still trying to discover the most suitable candidate to take the position as a head coach for napoli.
I feel that the appointment of Rudi Garcia as Napoli coach is a gamble by Napoli's management this season. You're right that Garcia doesn't have a great record in his coaching career, so it makes sense to me that a lot of people are really doubting him and Napoli this season.

Currently Napoli is in 5th place with 4 wins, 2 draws and 2 losses. The performance is sometimes good, but sometimes also bad. Napoli lost humiliatingly to Fiorentina and also Lazio, while they also lost to Real Madrid in the Champions League. There are no rumors yet about who could replace Garcia at Napoli, so he will be leading the team for some time from now.

Ok but if you look at the successes that Spalletti had before he came to Napoli and that Garcia had before he came to Napoli, I think that Garcia was less of a gamble than Spalletti. Winning Ligue 1 with OSC Lille and also winning the Coup de France and being a finalist with Olympique Marseille isn't any worse compared to what Spalletti had achieved before he had this amazing season with Napoli. It's too much talk about the coach and not enough talk about the players and how they are less focused on success than they have been last season. They are more prone to errors during the games and luck is against them, which is something a coach can't do anything against.

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October 19, 2023, 07:26:09 PM
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There's a possibility that Juventus would win the match and end Acmilan's winning streak but I doubt that because of the recent happenings at Juventus that could reduce the morale of the team, but one thing I'm sure of is that it's not going to be easy for both sides even though Milan are favorites to win the game, Juventus is definitely going to give them a rough time to do so,although they'll be without some key players that would've hrelp make it easier for their team to do better.

 Acmilan is currently the best performing team in the league they've previously lost against a big side this season and their next match against Juventus is another test for them against a big side, and I'm sure alot of Milan fans would be Furious if they lose cause they're the favorites to win the game,if not for the problems ongoing at Juve I would had said they'll win buy I doubt  I'd it's going to be possible with some of their key players.
I think if you look at the opportunities that exist, it is likely that Juventus will try any means to win. We know that the difference between Juventus and Milan is 4 points and if Juventus manages to win at least they can stop Milan from continuing to get away from their pursuit. However, if Milan loses, the team that will benefit quite a bit is Inter, which is likely to replace the city team.

On the other hand, if we talk about Milan, this team has been very good so far and they don't want their rival teams to get closer to them. The problems that Juventus have, they have to try to forget for a moment and focus on the important match this week and I hope they can do that. The big match Milan vs Juventus will have an impact on changing several team positions this week and let's see with an unpredictable result whether Juventus this time can stop Milan at home.

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October 19, 2023, 07:41:09 PM
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I think if you look at the opportunities that exist, it is likely that Juventus will try any means to win. We know that the difference between Juventus and Milan is 4 points and if Juventus manages to win at least they can stop Milan from continuing to get away from their pursuit. However, if Milan loses, the team that will benefit quite a bit is Inter, which is likely to replace the city team.

On the other hand, if we talk about Milan, this team has been very good so far and they don't want their rival teams to get closer to them. The problems that Juventus have, they have to try to forget for a moment and focus on the important match this week and I hope they can do that. The big match Milan vs Juventus will have an impact on changing several team positions this week and let's see with an unpredictable result whether Juventus this time can stop Milan at home.

Actually Milan was a little favored because of the factor of playing at home and Juventus have a bad record when playing away against a strong team but sometimes the match in Serie A is unpredictable this is one of the leagues that most often disappoints gamblers with unreasonable results. I don't advise you to bet on 1x2 market because it's very risky who knows both teams play safe with a draw Cheesy By the way Milan have 3 difficult matches next week I don't think it's easy to determine the strategy and avoid injury so coach is definitely more careful because all the matches are important.

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October 19, 2023, 07:49:12 PM
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It will definitely be quite interesting if Osimhen can make it to the Premier League next season, because the meeting of the best players in different teams will always provide interesting matches in the Premier League. But for now everyone needs to see Osimhen's own attitude and decisions regarding his future, because this season he also has to continue playing as well as possible at Napoli before the player transfer schedule opens again at the start of next year.
Napoli was a much stronger team with Osimhen and Khvicha Kvaratskhelia and especially when Luciano Spalletti was working in this team they were in the good form and this team even won the title in Serie A. But I think Napoli is losing power time after time, first Spalletti left Napoli and now Osimhen is the next effective person who is about to leave the team.  
Now that there is a possibility they are going to be forced to sell Osimhen as well, I think they are going to be very upset that they ended up with firing their manager. They were so much better and look at how much worse they are right now, don't get me wrong it's not about having a worse manager, it's just that some managers click with the team better. A better manager with horrible chemistry with the team will get worse results than a worse manager that has amazing chemistry with the team, and that is maybe the reason they got worse this year, or maybe the manager is just straight up worse I do not know.

Financially they are in good position and after selling Osimhen and maybe who knows some other players, they will be even richer and they could try to get some more players and build the team once again, may take some time but since the new owners are quite good at building a team, I am guessing that the yare going to be able to do it very well.

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October 19, 2023, 08:41:43 PM
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Napoli was a much stronger team with Osimhen and Khvicha Kvaratskhelia and especially when Luciano Spalletti was working in this team they were in the good form and this team even won the title in Serie A. But I think Napoli is losing power time after time, first Spalletti left Napoli and now Osimhen is the next effective person who is about to leave the team.  


Some things that needs to be noticed here.

1. Osimhen injured
2. Spalletti was not there.
3. No minjae in the club.

Those things are really impacting the performance from napoli. I remember last season napoli was winning the trophy but there was a thing that made me feel curious. Osimhen had also got injured at the end of previous season. The performance of napoli had been also dropping so hard.
From that i can say that if napoli is being very dependent on osimhen at this moment. Osimhen was helping napoli so many times in winning the game. Im feeling that if everything becomes even badly for napoli.

The lost against madrid then osimhen injured. Napoli is in a critical situation this time. I can't even imagine if osimhen will be absent till end of season.
All this contributed to the gradual failure of the team but the team made it worse when they had issues with osimhen , he happens to be one of their best and they actually depend on h to a great extent, so it was expected they would treat h with every consciousness that he is that vital in the team but sadly he was treated otherwise and ever since I think it affected his performance as it has dropped.

Spalleti should work on getting along with his team well enough as he doesn't have much time on his side any more as the season is already going halfway soon and the team is not getting the desired results so they will most likely loose their patient and would want to sack him if he doesn't start producing results and making good improvement for the team .

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Juventus condition doesn't really good before this match because some of their players were got injured and Alex Sandro dan Mattia De Sciglio have already got injured earlier and they are still struggle to recover and besides them the players just like Federico Chiesa and Danilo confirmed will not be available for this match and do not forget too Nicolò Fagioli obviously he will be absense because of his scandal so Juventus really is not in the good situation but Vlahovic was return from his injured so he probably will be played since the beginning of match and he will together in the front lines with Milik or Moise Kean so if we compared between both teams obviously Milan much better than Juventus and after seeing the conditions between them i feel like Milan will going to win this match
And there is another reason why Juventus cant make it good vs Milan. Last season they were punished with points deduction and this season individual players will be punished. In the last few days there were players who were excluded from the national team, because manipulation. And for Fagioli it wont be easy, he was excluded from the game for 7 months. Juventus stay whit him and has not suspended him. But it continues with problems at Juventus.

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Garcia and Spalletti are truly two coaches with different styles. Spalletti tends to be more able to raise the enthusiasm of his players by standing and instructing strategy during the match, but Garcia is busy with his notes. I'm not sure Garcia can take Napoli higher in the Champions League this season, in fact I'm not sure Napoli will qualify for the Champions League next season because his performance is very unstable. I know Garcia needs adjustments and adaptation, but his appointment doesn't seem right when Napoli are doing well.
I got it.
Yes, even though it was previously said that Rudi Garcia had almost the same tactics as Spaletti, in reality, they are quite different. Especially when it is closely related to his approach to the players so that the messages from the tactics he creates reach them well. This approach is not only from how Garcia treats him, but also his emotional closeness. Because after all, this can provide better motivation for both of them. Maybe he is too busy with his notes because the pressure is quite high or because his expectations are too high but he hasn't been able to realize them. Well, this is ongoing work for Garcia to get better or even give up.

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October 19, 2023, 08:51:25 PM
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Ac milan may able to win against juventus easily. I meant juventus is now in a very big pressure. The club had been suffering so many problems. -snip-
Easy win? I don't think so. This big match can be a tough match too for AC Milan even though they are playing at home. The reason is that AC Milan was unable to play its best goalkeeper, Maignan, who received a red card against Genoa. you are rught abiut Juventus condition is not good, but without Maignan, this could provide an opportunity for Juventus to steal points from Milan.
You're right. It won't be an easy match for AC Milan although they will play at home. Besides the absence of Maignan because of the red card, AC Milan also has another problem that they have many injured players. AC Milan has 8 injured players, including 3 main midfielders (Bennacer, Krunic, and Loftus-cheek). This will be a serious problem because all their experienced midfielders will be unavailable for the match. I don't know how AC Milan to solve this problem because they only have substituted midfielders with a lower quality. It won't be a problem if they play against a small team, but they will play against a strong team like Juventus.

According to this situation, I assume Juventus has a big chance to steal point. They may win the match, or they get a draw result.  Smiley



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October 19, 2023, 08:57:25 PM
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Yes I agree with you, that this match will not be easy for both clubs, be it for AC Milan as the host, or Juventus as the visitors. Yes, although AC Milan can be said to be better than Juventus at this time, but that cannot guarantee for them to be able to win this match very easily. Juventus are not that bad to beat, and it is proven by the position of the standings they occupy now. Juventus are also aiming for victory, but if they can't get it, a draw is also the best result for them to bring home from AC Milan headquarters in this match.
This match will determine the quality of Ac milan performance this season because if they are able to win this match, of course they will maintain the opportunity to remain at the forefront of the race for this season trophy. But if they lose then their performance has not been consistent enough this season. However, I am sure that with the quality of Ac milan players this season, they will be able to beat Juventus in this match with a small score. However, the game scheme of the two teams in this match will certainly be difficult to predict because Ac milan often loses points when facing equally strong teams. I think Pioli will change the way in this match by pressing the players to appear more aggressive from the early minutes.

These two teams are quite close apart on the standings where Juventus can reduce the points behind Ac milan if they are able to win this match and also have the opportunity to sit in second place if Inter milan fails to win. Especially with the conditions currently being experienced by Juventus where their players have to be absent, such as Nicolo Fagioli, this will certainly have a bad impact on them in the match against Ac milan.

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October 19, 2023, 08:59:11 PM
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And there is another reason why Juventus cant make it good vs Milan. Last season they were punished with points deduction and this season individual players will be punished. In the last few days there were players who were excluded from the national team, because manipulation. And for Fagioli it wont be easy, he was excluded from the game for 7 months. Juventus stay whit him and has not suspended him. But it continues with problems at Juventus.
Milan first goalkeeper is suspended this match against Juventus and their second choice goalkeeper was injured and will miss this game too. Milan has to play with their 40 years old third goalkeeper. For Juve, Nicolo Fagiole has been banned for 6 months. I don't know how much these news could interfere with the match but I suppose both teams will do their best.
There is Tonali from Newcastle, and 2 Roma players under investigation for betting and they risk to be temporarily suspended too..

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You're right. It won't be an easy match for AC Milan although they will play at home. Besides the absence of Maignan because of the red card, AC Milan also has another problem that they have many injured players. AC Milan has 8 injured players, including 3 main midfielders (Bennacer, Krunic, and Loftus-cheek). This will be a serious problem because all their experienced midfielders will be unavailable for the match. I don't know how AC Milan to solve this problem because they only have substituted midfielders with lower quality. It won't be a problem if they play against a small team, but they will play against a strong team like Juventus.

According to this situation, I assume Juventus has a big chance to steal point. They may win the match, or they get a draw result.  Smiley

Well if you' all think Juventus has a better chance of winning cause of Acmilan's series of injured players, then you should take  look as Juventus squad cause they're undergoing injury crisis too not only that, recently PSG have got two quality players banned from the team and a currently disciplined due to a doping act and illegal betting, they also got other first team players like Danilo, Chiesa, Alex sandro, De Sciglio, and their top finisher Vlahovic absent from the match due to injury, so I wonder how they're the favourites to win the game.

 It think Acmilan even have a better chance cause they still got good players in their squad depth that could challenge Juventus and most of their top players and finishers are still available, I think the match could be tough on both sides and could end up in a draw, however I picture Acmilan as more favourable to win the game.
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