Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A)

[Velvet78]

It feels like this season will be more fun.    Because I see Juventus in a much better shape with Motta. Besides Napoli can also get better in time with Conte. I would love to see these three teams in a fierce title race.

I would like to see Milan and Roma also doing nice work but it is a horrible start instead.    Fonseca has made things worse for now. Of course managers might do better when they are given enough time. Look at Arteta example at Arsenal but let's see...

And Roma... This is absolutely not I want to see from De Rossi. He needs to find a way to make the players believe in themselves. I don't even know what happened. They weren't this bad on the last weeks of the Serie A. At least in the attacking line.

[fuguebtc]

Currently, the majority of us here are very disappointed with AC Milan's performance at the start of this season. Changing coaches was initially hoped to make AC Milan better. But now what we see is just the opposite. It's a shame that we didn't see the performance they showed in pre-season which looked convincing from them at the start of this season. It is reported that the players have difficulty understanding the strategy used by the coach or there is a mismatch there. But what is clear is that they are not playing like a strong team in Serie A. They are playing like a weak team at the start of this season. Last season with Pioli we might have seen AC Milan succeed in reaching second place at the end of the season. but it seems that this season will be quite difficult for AC Milan to reach that ranking again with Fonseca. Unless Juventus and Inter Milan weaken and AC Milan, on the other hand, experiences improvement. But that seems like a hope that is a little difficult to come true.

AC Milan's start to the season is nowhere near where they were expected to be, and being disappointed is only normal.
You know, within 5 matches before the start of the season Milan won 3, drew 1 and lose 1. So they had a pretty average pre-season, and now in the very early stage of the league, they are drawing games at home, coming back very late against weaker teams. Now they play a few more games in the league, and then UCL starts.

I don't really know how the management is seeing this, but a lot of new managers need a good amount of time to settle in and then deliver big results. That might be the case here, too. But AC Milan ultras now need to get behind the manager and support him till he makes things right, and starts getting wins. The team is great, individual brilliance is definitely there, and I can see them turning things around.

[Juse14]

Currently, the majority of us here are very disappointed with AC Milan's performance at the start of this season. Changing coaches was initially hoped to make AC Milan better. But now what we see is just the opposite. It's a shame that we didn't see the performance they showed in pre-season which looked convincing from them at the start of this season. It is reported that the players have difficulty understanding the strategy used by the coach or there is a mismatch there. But what is clear is that they are not playing like a strong team in Serie A. They are playing like a weak team at the start of this season. Last season with Pioli we might have seen AC Milan succeed in reaching second place at the end of the season. but it seems that this season will be quite difficult for AC Milan to reach that ranking again with Fonseca. Unless Juventus and Inter Milan weaken and AC Milan, on the other hand, experiences improvement. But that seems like a hope that is a little difficult to come true.

AC Milan's start to the season is nowhere near where they were expected to be, and being disappointed is only normal.
You know, within 5 matches before the start of the season Milan won 3, drew 1 and lose 1. So they had a pretty average pre-season, and now in the very early stage of the league, they are drawing games at home, coming back very late against weaker teams. Now they play a few more games in the league, and then UCL starts.

I don't really know how the management is seeing this, but a lot of new managers need a good amount of time to settle in and then deliver big results. That might be the case here, too. But AC Milan ultras now need to get behind the manager and support him till he makes things right, and starts getting wins. The team is great, individual brilliance is definitely there, and I can see them turning things around.

AC Milan had a very disappointing start to the season, much to the chagrin of many fans who had some expectations (to be fair) that were not met. Perhaps their pre-season was not all that convincing. However, the record was not bad (W3 D1 L1). Home draw with Brescia and problems against weaker sides early in the league made it even more frustrating.

However, I do agree that supporters do need to be patient. A lot of new managers do need time to settle in and get their ideas across: AC Milan does have a strong squad. The individual brilliance is certainly there. Provided the management and fans continue to support them, there's every chance they'll turn this situation around and start picking up some positive results, especially when the Champions League challenge begins. It may be only a question of time for the team to find its rhythm.

[Jegileman]

Although indeed, Napoli also slowly looks better but still, I also think Napoli will still find it difficult to succeed or will still find it difficult to get good results throughout this season. Although indeed, I also realize that with Conte of course Napoli will be very good but for some reason, I think Napoli will not succeed in getting the scudetto as many expect about Lukaku too.

Lukaku presence in the club has actually improve the performance of the forward position compared to last season. Lukaku is really playing for what he was bought for. I don’t know how Napoli will be playing furthermore from now, but if they continue to play consistently, I believe they’ll be a major contender this season for the top four in the Serie A. Last season was not on a good note for them and they missed out of the European competition, so they will have enough time to focus on their league matches and come out better at the end of the season. The absence of Osimehn is not felt much by them since they had a replacement for him and he’s also playing very well to put the team ahead in the league matches. Consistency matters now and I hope they can be able to remain consistent till the end of the season because that’s the only way they can prove their best in the league this season.

[TopT3ns]

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Although indeed, Napoli also slowly looks better but still, I also think Napoli will still find it difficult to succeed or will still find it difficult to get good results throughout this season. Although indeed, I also realize that with Conte of course Napoli will be very good but for some reason, I think Napoli will not succeed in getting the scudetto as many expect about Lukaku too.

Yes, little by little he is improving, you can see Antonio Conte's hand in the team and you can also see that his way of playing attracts the right players, like Romero Lukaku who needed to fix his CV a little.
I think he has a good chance of returning to the Champions League. Better for Napoli.

Napoli started the season badly after suffering their first defeat against Hellas Verona, Napoli's game, especially their front line, was very bad in that match after losing Osimhen, but fortunately Napoli was able to recover in the last two matches after Conte slightly modified their attack line and the arrival of Lukaku finally made the Napoli squad is now complete, however, in my opinion, Napoli are still in a transition stage at the moment after their poor performance last season, so it seems like it is too early for us to make them favorites to win the Scudetto this season, I think for now Conte will just focus to build their squad in order to get a better team balance so it is very likely that they will target the Scudetto in the next season, although maybe they will try to get it this season but in my opinion Napoli is still not worthy.

This is something that will be exciting to watch in terms of how Conte handles this change, especially with the emergence of new players such as Lukaku. Strategic alterations by a manager might not always yield instantaneous outcomes, and how this individual alters the formation and positions of the players will determine the future performance of the team. Some of the key issues to be focused on include balance on the pitch as well as increase in the communication and coordination between the back and the front lines.
 
I was able to identify that adjusting to changes in the squad will be the new challenge that Napoli has to overcome. If the team gets enough time and practice they are capable of performing to the best of their ability and deliver positive outcomes consistently. It is perhaps in constructing a good team that can bear a lot of fruits in the following seasons that emphasis should be laid on at the current time.

[Ryu_Ar1]

Still, even though it was only one defeat and 2 draws but they lost to Parma, which in fact in terms of the quality of players and the level is clearly actually Milan far superior so in this case I think they should try to change this flow for the better because 3 matches and only got 2 points obviously it was not a satisfactory result for Milan.

On the other hand, this can also be an excuse for new coaches in adaptation problems, it's just that when the situation occurs now when adaptation is too long then this can have an impact on a much greater decline in performance. We can see the example of Napoli last season where those who initially could not adapt between the new coach and the players they had actually had an impact on the worsening situation which in the end they were thrown far from the standings. This should be a concern of course for Milan when they are wrong in determining the rhythm at the beginning of the season then it can have a worse impact in mid-season or even the end of the season.

Yeah right. And in fact, if Milan continues to not get maximum points at the start of the season then this will only further distance Milan from the title race. Juventus and Inter Milan will only continue to create more points differences and leave Milan behind. if Milan doesn't get up from now on. Obviously this is not a very good condition at all for AC Milan and also for their new coach. And all of this is primarily due to the slow adaptation process. And the second is because it is reported that there is an internal problem in this squad involving a mismatch between the player and the coach. Fonseca must immediately resolve this problem so that he can be more accepted by all the players on the team. So the players will be able to trust themselves more and produce good results.

The competition for the Scudetto is actually difficult to guess because in the end there is a club that starts not going well but at the end of the season they shoot quickly just like what happened to Lazio in the last 2 seasons or some dark horse clubs that are sometimes troublesome just like the picture of Bologna last season.
But there are also those who sometimes start well but end tragically because they cannot be consistent considering their performance continues to decline over time.

Things like this always happen which makes conditions unpredictable, but for Milan they are used to a good start and even they in recent seasons have always been a subscription to unbeaten at the start of the season during the Pioli era but now the situation is different with the new coach.
This must change immediately because although there will always be reasons such as adaptation and so on, it's not really worth it and it won't be accepted if they end up not playing well at the start of the season because it doesn't reflect a big club.

[beerlover]

Indeed, in the last few seasons we have seen many obstacles that have prevented Juventus from getting maximum results in several seasons. Starting from the sanctions received by the club, such as points deductions, then in the following season there were sanctions received by their players due to doping cases which resulted in the players being banned from playing. And after that, many players were injured. Well, when this club was coached by Allegri, a lot of things happened that hampered the development of this club. But I hope that the problems experienced by Juventus last season will no longer occur this season. Because if that happens again, even though this team has developed rapidly, it could experience setbacks again.

Juventus can be said to be very lucky because they managed to get a great coach like Thiago Motta. Because it is quite rare for a coach to immediately produce good results at the start of his presence on the team. different from Juventus, we know that AC Milan doesn't seem to be lucky enough because they haven't managed to achieve good results with the new coach they currently have.

I do agree that it wasn't really an easy period for Juventus to face all those fines and penalties but they are not getting anything now and I think they are going to be fine. UCL and Serie A together with some money in their pocket and some good transfers. Plus they did alright last season, they weren't that bad, they finished third but they did deserve second, the last games were the only reason they finished third, they really fought for a title all the way until the middle of the season and after that got worse.

I believe that they will do fine, we should consider this to get better with time, we just need to consider this as something that Motta will be able to do as well, he is a great manager and he has what it takes to take Juventus a step ahead. I believe that Inter is great and could still win, but at the same time we could see Juventus win it this season as well, they are really good and could do something that could benefit them without a doubt.

[Weawant]

Over the past few seasons, Juventus happens to be one team thst has really struggled through a lot, impressively they try to get through all of this with the best they can tho they still be struggling through it but then it's clear there are obvious efforts to change the narrative.

I'm very optimistic that with their new coach, even with the whole sactions and injuries they have been suffering he's going to be able to use an effective strategy to getting them doing even better this season, although last season was and would have been their best bet for them to be able to maintain a very decent position on the league table and probably attempt the title nevertheless this season they have all the chance and opportunity again at it and I hope the very best is all they get from it.

[khiholangkang]

I'm not a fan of Juventus but still, I want to see Juventus in good form and get good results. Juventus had Allegri working on this team for a long time but during the time when he was working there he couldn't get good results and got fired from this team and that's why they hired Moota, While Motta got amazing results in Juventus so far and he got the team improved once he joined them but it is not enough yet because compared to the other teams like Inter Milan, they need to work much harder than this to get the title of the Serie A at the end of this season.

I'm also not a fan of Juventus but I have to say objectively that they have improved a lot compared to last year, Motta is working a lot since his career taking off depends on this success. With Bologna he did well but now he has the opportunity to demonstrate that he is a top coach. Let's see what he can achieve.

But have you ever thought that we only have 3 matches in Serie a? Determining that Allegri is worse than Motta at Juventus cannot be concluded yet, maybe it's true and I admit that the previous season Bologna in Motta's hands experienced a very extraordinary improvement, on the other hand Juventus last season suffered a lot of defeats, but this is a new season and the journey is still far away, who is better we can see if a lot of match data is shown, we don't know if Juventus will be able to be consistent in this situation.

[hahay]

Over the past few seasons, Juventus happens to be one team thst has really struggled through a lot, impressively they try to get through all of this with the best they can tho they still be struggling through it but then it's clear there are obvious efforts to change the narrative.

I'm very optimistic that with their new coach, even with the whole sactions and injuries they have been suffering he's going to be able to use an effective strategy to getting them doing even better this season, although last season was and would have been their best bet for them to be able to maintain a very decent position on the league table and probably attempt the title nevertheless this season they have all the chance and opportunity again at it and I hope the very best is all they get from it.

True, Juventus seem to be a team that gets into trouble  quite often when compared to Inter, Milan and some of the other top teams in Serie A. But even so, Juventus always manages to recover and even though indeed,Juventus also needs time to be able to recover. But the great thing is, Juventus still looks easy to get the players and or coaches they want and thus, the recovery can happen well and maybe quickly too.

So indeed, with Juventus new manager this season seems to be a sign of Juventus rise to dominate Serie A again. Although not completely dominating, but with Juventus having a chance to get the Scudetto again it has also been a good result in his first season for the new Juventus manager this season. Moreover,if for example Juventus managed to get good results also in the Champions League, then it would be a great success for Thiago Motta too.

[Nanga Parbat]

Seeing Motta contribution to Juventus at the beginning of this season is indeed very interesting and makes all fans and bettors always believe in betting on Juventus victory. However, the problem in this series A is that it is likely that Motta will still be very easy to make his contribution, but when the UCL match starts, Motta will have very heavy pressure when he has to divide the match schedule in the UCL and series A. Meanwhile, the Juventus coach does not have experience in managing a team in several competitions. And regarding the competition with Inter Milan, it is likely that Inter will still lead until the end of the season because even though Juventus seems to have improved, the Juventus coach needs time to understand the strategy used by Inter and break the strategy in the coming season.

Juventus, who are very good and strong, most people should have predicted and bet in their favor.  But everyone got the opposite answer.  If they do it well and with brains, they will solve the problem, otherwise Juventus will do their position.  If Juventus continue to improve then good for him as there are seasons ahead and he will be able to put his numbers up well.  If they do not succeed in this, their coach should make many changes in them and make a strong team in which they will not get the name of defeat.  And this will make prediction and bettors easier.  If they don't pay attention to it, they will do their own harm.  Yes, even if their coach can't win in their favor, it will be of no use.  And in that, Juventus will need to work hard too.  Now their performance is waiting to see what they do.

[Die_empty]

Over the past few seasons, Juventus happens to be one team thst has really struggled through a lot, impressively they try to get through all of this with the best they can tho they still be struggling through it but then it's clear there are obvious efforts to change the narrative.

I'm very optimistic that with their new coach, even with the whole sactions and injuries they have been suffering he's going to be able to use an effective strategy to getting them doing even better this season, although last season was and would have been their best bet for them to be able to maintain a very decent position on the league table and probably attempt the title nevertheless this season they have all the chance and opportunity again at it and I hope the very best is all they get from it.

Juventus have faced many challenges, but they still manage to make it to the Champions League. I am a fan of Massimiliano Allegri because of his dedication to Juventus. When the club was having point deduction problems, he had the opportunity to leave Juventus and move to Saudi Arabia, where he would have been one of the highest-paid coaches. But he decided to stay with Juventus and fight for a European slot. I am surprised he was sacked after all the good work he did in Juventus. Thiago Motta has  a UEFA Pro Licence which means he is qualified for the job. Winning two games and drawing one in three games is not a bad result. The team is still blending; we should be expecting them to improve as the league games keep commencing.

[Iranus]

Currently, Thiago Motta is on the list of coaches who are widely discussed for his success in starting the season with his new team very brilliantly. Juventus, which has not experienced defeat in the new season, is certainly a concern. After last season they always adopted a pattern of play that was not very good even though last season they also rarely lost. but looking at Juventus now they are playing much better. Yes, Thiago Motta looks like he will become quite a famous coach if he succeeds in bringing Juventus to a high level again. I hope Thiago Motta can not only bring good results in Serie A but hopefully he can also bring Juventus to a brilliant performance in the UCL.

In 3 days they will face Empoli. And I think if Juventus can still maintain their consistency in the game on the field then it is very clear that Juventus will be the favorite even though they are not the hosts in the match.

I think coach Thiago Motta became famous when he helped Bologna reach the Champions League. Secondly, after just one season, he helped many young players become stars. By choosing Thiago Motta, Juventus has chosen a youthful, dynamic, energetic, and modern football-appropriate style. The excitement in Bologna's play last season may have caught the attention of Juventus's board. If Thiago Motta can recreate this style of play at Juventus, and even raise it to a new level.
The new, inspiring football of new coach Thiago Motta has breathed new life into Juventus as the club is eager to return to the top of glory. What Juventus has is more than enough for this coach. I see a glimmer of hope for Juventus fans. Hopes of the club regaining the Scudetto after a four-year absence are opening up.

I understand that Motta is a good coach and everyone likes him right now. But I wouldn’t get my hopes up too much to be honest.
Because many times we have seen that a new coach comes to manage a club and suddenly the club starts bringing in good results.
But after a certain period of time, the performance starts dropping and it seems like he is managing a team that is different from what he started with.
We are watching that with Roma right now.

So I would actually say that we should not over-hype things and we should wait to see what actually happens.
If Motta is able to bring in consistent results till the 15th or 20th match I would say yes he is bringing in consistent results and he is doing good for The Old Lady. the problem is nowadays, people are really quick to jump on to conclusions.

Against Empoli on next Saturday there is a big chance winger Nico Gonzalez will be missing cause he is not fully recovered. Another concern is according to ilbianconero, Motta said he might start the match with attacking midfielder Adzic, he chose Adzic for his club debut as a starter on Saturday. You know after the international break this one is going to be his first match. So, before placing a bet on this match keep these 2 things in mind.


Source: https://www.ilbianconero.com/a/adzic-juventus-empoli-titolare-idea-thiago-motta-96985

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Against Empoli on next Saturday there is a big chance winger Nico Gonzalez will be missing cause he is not fully recovered. Another concern is according to ilbianconero, Motta said he might start the match with attacking midfielder Adzic, he chose Adzic for his club debut as a starter on Saturday. You know after the international break this one is going to be his first match. So, before placing a bet on this match keep these 2 things in mind.

Havent he played yesterday with Argentina and even scored?
Btw Adzic is a potential crack I wanna see him play some games but can be a big name in the next years, he has the skill for sure.

Keep also in mind that 2 injuries players will be back available, and the last player arrived in the team will have 2 more weeks of work, for a total of 2 weeks  overall with the new coach.

[EL MOHA]

But have you ever thought that we only have 3 matches in Serie a? Determining that Allegri is worse than Motta at Juventus cannot be concluded yet, maybe it's true and I admit that the previous season Bologna in Motta's hands experienced a very extraordinary improvement, on the other hand Juventus last season suffered a lot of defeats, but this is a new season and the journey is still far away, who is better we can see if a lot of match data is shown, we don't know if Juventus will be able to be consistent in this situation.

If we are talking about the best coaches that have ever coached or managed Juventus I will say Maximiliano Allegri is up there with them and no matter what Happened after he shouldn’t be disrespected. Last season Allegri had a poor season but I will say it is the club’s fault actually, he was hit with numerous penalties like points deduction and he had the injury crisis that had almost half of his players out which made it difficult for the team to get back to winning matches regularly although they still got to qualify for the European competitions which clearly shows how impactful he still was at the face of the crisis and that’s why he was not sacked like other coaches are him sacked.

Thiago Motta was excellent at Bologna taking them to the champions league places which I wouldn’t lie was a difficult job he did, but what’s more difficult is the consistency to repeat the same thing again. I won’t compare or rate him high enough as Allegri except if he backs it up with consistency and trophies. So for now we need to die down the comparison

[TelolettOm]

Thiago Motta was excellent at Bologna taking them to the champions league places which I wouldn’t lie was a difficult job he did, but what’s more difficult is the consistency to repeat the same thing again. I won’t compare or rate him high enough as Allegri except if he backs it up with consistency and trophies. So for now we need to die down the comparison

Indeed. Motta's career at Juventus has just begun, so it is not apple-to-apple when compared to Allegri who has been Juventus manager for years. So we cannot compare who is better and who is not. What is clear is that Allegri contributed several top Serie A 5 trophies, the Italian Cup, and so on. In the past, he was actually very good. However, it's all over and now it's Motta's turn who has just begun.

Now it's time for Motta to work and start his career at Juventus. At least, Motta had good experience previously at Bologna. And in the first 3 matches, Juventus' performance was quite good. So, we just have to wait and see what happens next.

[junder]

I'm not a Juventus fan either, but what makes me a little amazed with this team is that they have a player posture that tends to be superior to the usual team, and according to this is one advantage they have. With Thiago Motta as their coach, there is a chance for Juventus to perform better because they have a fairly experienced coach, with them currently in second place in the standings proving that they have good and strong performance.
No one knows what the future will be like, Inter Milan who are indeed strong because their very good performance makes them at the top of the standings are certainly not easy to beat, I am sure Thiago Motta will do his best for Juventus because he has shown his duties well so far.

Don't be happy with Juventus' early achievements this season because the journey is still long. Last season, Massimiliano Allegri also was able to make Juventus appear consistent and compete with Inter Milan at the top of the standings at the start of the season, but entering the middle of the season, Juventus' performance declined and caused Juventus to fail to take advantage of the opportunity to win the Serie A title.
Hopefully this season will be different. Juventus is not only strong at the beginning of the season but can also be consistent until the end, especially since they have a tighter schedule than the previous season. This will not be an easy job for Thiago Motta.

BTW this weekend Juventus will play away against Empoli. Juventus should be able to get 3 full points because Empoli is not a tough opponent for the odds. Juventus has pretty good odds, namely @1.77.

No team hopes they want to fail to win the title, all teams will try to survive and or try harder to be better, Including Motta who will definitely do that for Juventus. And it is still early in the season so it is possible that Juventus could experience problems and be displaced from its current ranking, even possibly with Inter Milan too, but that is probably unlikely. With his current busy schedule, it is additional work for Motta and hopefully Motta can handle all of this well.
With the match that will take place later against Empoli, Juventus should be able to win, because with the chance of winning I think Juventus is superior.
Let's just see what will happen later with the match that will take place.

[Rustam Meraj]

Indeed. Motta's career at Juventus has just begun, so it is not apple-to-apple when compared to Allegri who has been Juventus manager for years. So we cannot compare who is better and who is not. What is clear is that Allegri contributed several top Serie A 5 trophies, the Italian Cup, and so on. In the past, he was actually very good. However, it's all over and now it's Motta's turn who has just begun.

Now it's time for Motta to work and start his career at Juventus. At least, Motta had good experience previously at Bologna. And in the first 3 matches, Juventus' performance was quite good. So, we just have to wait and see what happens next.

I also think it is not fair to compare Motta new job at Juventus to Allegri old one. Allegri did great job in past but we can not expect Motta to be just like him. Motta has chance to do things his own way and make name for himself. He has experience from his old job at Bologna and Juventus has started well under him. Let's give Motta time to figure out his own way of doing things. It is exciting to see what will happen next for him and Juventus.

[Rampagoe004]

I also think it is not fair to compare Motta new job at Juventus to Allegri old one. Allegri did great job in past but we can not expect Motta to be just like him. Motta has chance to do things his own way and make name for himself. He has experience from his old job at Bologna and Juventus has started well under him. Let's give Motta time to figure out his own way of doing things. It is exciting to see what will happen next for him and Juventus.

Yes, it's true that Motta and Allegri are very far apart when compared in terms of the performances he gave in the past, which gave Juventus many titles, not only in the Italian League but also in their performances in Europe. Allegri, a senior player at Juventus, has worked very well for the team and worked well together to win the championship, Motta cannot be like Allegri, he still has a lot of time at Juventus to make a name for himself as the best player this year. let's see in the next match, hopefully he can give the best for himself and Juventus.

[Catenaccio]

I also think it is not fair to compare Motta new job at Juventus to Allegri old one. Allegri did great job in past but we can not expect Motta to be just like him. Motta has chance to do things his own way and make name for himself. He has experience from his old job at Bologna and Juventus has started well under him. Let's give Motta time to figure out his own way of doing things. It is exciting to see what will happen next for him and Juventus.

People are free to make their comparisons and we can see that Max Allegri began his coach career as a young coach and at small clubs before joining AC Milan and began his success in AC Milan. Max left AC Milan and joined Juventus when he was already a successful coach in Italy. In Juventus, he won many titles with them and I feel Thiago Motta is developing his coach career like Max Allegri.

Thiago started in Bologna, made big surprising success there and now he is in Junventus with a mission to help them winning Scudetto after several years without it. I don't say Thiago won't get it because he is a young coach. In Serie A history, we had some young coaches won Scudetto like Conte, Max Allegri, Simeone Inzaghi.

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