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October 03, 2024, 09:22:06 AM
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Osimhen has become a burden for the team lately, he fell out with De Laurentiis and later with Conte, who suspended him from training, so for discipline in the team they had to get rid of him. Lukaku has fit in very well, you can see that he is trying very hard, he likes working with Conte and that was their original goal to get him in the team. If Napoli, Inter and Juventus keep up the same pace until the end of the championship, maybe we will have something like competition in Serie A.

I don't know what has happened between the club president and Victor Oshime but, saying he fell out with Antonio Conte is nothing but misinformation truthfully. They had talks together but Victor Oshime stated he wants to leave the club, Antonio Conte even came out to say that he will not get involved with whatever that happened last season. I hate the comparison between Victor Oshime and Romelu Lukaku, check the stats and you'd see that having Victor Oshime in your sqaud is a great thing. Well, I'm rooting for Napoli to win the Seria A Scudetto League Competition.

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October 03, 2024, 10:48:50 AM
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Osimhen has become a burden for the team lately, he fell out with De Laurentiis and later with Conte, who suspended him from training, so for discipline in the team they had to get rid of him. Lukaku has fit in very well, you can see that he is trying very hard, he likes working with Conte and that was their original goal to get him in the team. If Napoli, Inter and Juventus keep up the same pace until the end of the championship, maybe we will have something like competition in Serie A.
I don't know what has happened between the club president and Victor Oshime but, saying he fell out with Antonio Conte is nothing but misinformation truthfully. They had talks together but Victor Oshime stated he wants to leave the club, Antonio Conte even came out to say that he will not get involved with whatever that happened last season. I hate the comparison between Victor Oshime and Romelu Lukaku, check the stats and you'd see that having Victor Oshime in your sqaud is a great thing. Well, I'm rooting for Napoli to win the Seria A Scudetto League Competition.
The dispute between Osimhen and Napoli began when the club's official TikTok account uploaded a video of Osimhen failing to execute a penalty in the fifth week of the Serie A 23/24 match against Bologna which ended 0-0, previously he was very insistent on being the executor, but after getting his wish his kick went wide of the target.
Then continued when the offer from Al Ahli came, he was ready to sign a four year contract, with a total contract value of €160 million, but Napoli made the plan fail. The club was willing to release Osimhen according to the agreement, but they asked for an additional €5 million which made Al Ahli cancel the deal.
So, if anyone says that the disharmony between Osimhen and Napoli is due to his disagreement with Antonio Conte, that is wrong information.

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October 03, 2024, 12:18:59 PM
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What Conte has done with Napoli is impressive, but it's important to keep in mind that we are only at the beginning of the season. Consistency will be key in determining the true strength of the team. Like Spalletti, Conte's impact has been immediate and significant, likely due to his champion mentality that he instills in his players. However, maintaining this level of performance throughout the season and indeed, in the midst of competing in smaller competitions as well as the UCL and the UEL, will be the real test. If Naples is able to do so, there's a good chance of them becoming a major threat this season, possibly even taking the lead in Serie A and winning the Scudetto title.
Antonio Conte has indeed succeeded in getting Napoli back on its feet at the start of this season. And so far Napoli's performance has been quite impressive after Conte became coach there. But the harder task actually starts from now. namely Conte must be able to continue to maintain Napoli's performance so that it remains consistent throughout this season. Because actually maintaining this consistency is always not easy to do. Only a very few coaches can do that for a club. And Conte has been able to do that in the past at the clubs he once triumphed with. So it looks like he will also be able to do it in Napoli. The season hasn't started long yet and there's still a long way to go. And the most worrying thing in football is player injuries. Napoli must avoid this. Because this team lacks good players on the bench. So when key players are injured, I think a decline in performance can occur.











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October 03, 2024, 12:19:06 PM
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 * Napoli - Como => Napoli
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October 03, 2024, 12:45:14 PM
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I don't know what has happened between the club president and Victor Oshime but, saying he fell out with Antonio Conte is nothing but misinformation truthfully. They had talks together but Victor Oshime stated he wants to leave the club, Antonio Conte even came out to say that he will not get involved with whatever that happened last season. I hate the comparison between Victor Oshime and Romelu Lukaku, check the stats and you'd see that having Victor Oshime in your sqaud is a great thing. Well, I'm rooting for Napoli to win the Seria A Scudetto League Competition.
So true. Never have I heard that Osimhen has a falling out with Conte. Maybe for those who didn't follow the news regarding Osimhen last season it would be difficult to understand what problems occurred between Osimhen and Napoli. But for those of us who have been following Osimhen's news since last season, namely since there was a problem with content that offended Osimhen's feelings, we will understand what happened there. And Conte did not play Osimhen at the start of the season because at that time the negotiation process for Osimhen in the transfer market was still ongoing with several clubs. Although in the end Osimhen failed to find a new club that could redeem him from Napoli. but in the end Osimhen was loaned to Galatasaray because Osimhen was no longer comfortable playing at Napoli.

Comparing Osimhen with Lukaku is clearly not the right thing to do. Osimhen is a young player who can continue to develop to become better and better. And having Osimhen is indeed a good thing in the long term. Lukaku and Osimhen each have their strengths and weaknesses.

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October 03, 2024, 12:48:49 PM
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So true. Never have I heard that Osimhen has a falling out with Conte. Maybe for those who didn't follow the news regarding Osimhen last season it would be difficult to understand what problems occurred between Osimhen and Napoli. But for those of us who have been following Osimhen's news since last season, namely since there was a problem with content that offended Osimhen's feelings, we will understand what happened there. And Conte did not play Osimhen at the start of the season because at that time the negotiation process for Osimhen in the transfer market was still ongoing with several clubs. Although in the end Osimhen failed to find a new club that could redeem him from Napoli. but in the end Osimhen was loaned to Galatasaray because Osimhen was no longer comfortable playing at Napoli.

Comparing Osimhen with Lukaku is clearly not the right thing to do. Osimhen is a young player who can continue to develop to become better and better. And having Osimhen is indeed a good thing in the long term. Lukaku and Osimhen each have their strengths and weaknesses.
I agree with your views on comparing Osimhen with Lukaku, two very different players in regard to their age and development. It's fair to say that Osimhen brings a lot of potential for future growth and performance. Each player indeed has their own unique strengths and weaknesses, and their value to a team cannot be simply compared.
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October 03, 2024, 12:52:10 PM
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Spalletti has been working with Napoli for quite a long time so that they finally managed to win Serie A and this is different from Conte who has just coached Napoli but he was able to make a very significant difference to Napoli's performance.
In terms of strength, Napoli is now very good but they must be able to maintain their consistency, at the beginning of the season like this we have not been able to measure the true strength of the team, let alone maintaining consistency, of course it is not easy.
What Conte has done with Napoli is impressive, but it's important to keep in mind that we are only at the beginning of the season. Consistency will be key in determining the true strength of the team. Like Spalletti, Conte's impact has been immediate and significant, likely due to his champion mentality that he instills in his players. However, maintaining this level of performance throughout the season and indeed, in the midst of competing in smaller competitions as well as the UCL and the UEL, will be the real test. If Naples is able to do so, there's a good chance of them becoming a major threat this season, possibly even taking the lead in Serie A and winning the Scudetto title.
Every single point matters in football so despite the fact that we are still at the early stages of the league, just like you rightly said, it is impressive seeing how great Napoli have become under the management of Antonio Conte. What he is doing in Napoli is far greater than what he did with his most recent club Tottenham and I have the confidence that he will finish this season strong. To be honest, I did not see this kind of performance coming but he made it possible even with no much sophisticated players. We need to give him the credit because Napoli has suddenly become a kind of consistent which is a good thing.











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October 03, 2024, 01:12:19 PM
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So true. Never have I heard that Osimhen has a falling out with Conte. Maybe for those who didn't follow the news regarding Osimhen last season it would be difficult to understand what problems occurred between Osimhen and Napoli. But for those of us who have been following Osimhen's news since last season, namely since there was a problem with content that offended Osimhen's feelings, we will understand what happened there. And Conte did not play Osimhen at the start of the season because at that time the negotiation process for Osimhen in the transfer market was still ongoing with several clubs. Although in the end Osimhen failed to find a new club that could redeem him from Napoli. but in the end Osimhen was loaned to Galatasaray because Osimhen was no longer comfortable playing at Napoli.

Comparing Osimhen with Lukaku is clearly not the right thing to do. Osimhen is a young player who can continue to develop to become better and better. And having Osimhen is indeed a good thing in the long term. Lukaku and Osimhen each have their strengths and weaknesses.

Yes, it seems there was a misunderstanding or maybe some misinformation circulating about the relationship between Osimhen and Conte. Indeed, Osimhen had some issues at Napoli, which may have created a certain perception. However, Conte's decision not to play Osimhen at the start of the season was primarily due to ongoing negotiations for Osimhen in the transfer market. After which, he was loaned to Galatasaray.

Comparing Osimhen to Lukaku may not be fair as these are two players at different stages in their careers, each with distinct strengths and weaknesses. Osimhen is a young prospect with a promising future ahead, while Lukaku is an established player with a proven track record. Both bring value to their respective teams in their own ways.
News about Osimhen is sometimes exaggerated or made too dramatic by some news media. So, all of this can cause some misunderstandings for those who don't explore it further. But that problem has now passed. And now Napoli are fighting with Conte and all the existing players and with their mainstay striker, Lukaku. Likewise, Osimhen is currently struggling with the club that borrowed his services this season, namely Galatasaray. And it looks like Osimhen has recently managed to score a few goals for Galatasaray. Which means Osimhen has started to adapt well there. And Napoli are now also doing well with Conte and Lukaku as the mainstay players brought by Conte. I hope things go very well for everyone.

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October 03, 2024, 01:39:25 PM
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News about Osimhen is sometimes exaggerated or made too dramatic by some news media. So, all of this can cause some misunderstandings for those who don't explore it further. But that problem has now passed. And now Napoli are fighting with Conte and all the existing players and with their mainstay striker, Lukaku. Likewise, Osimhen is currently struggling with the club that borrowed his services this season, namely Galatasaray. And it looks like Osimhen has recently managed to score a few goals for Galatasaray. Which means Osimhen has started to adapt well there. And Napoli are now also doing well with Conte and Lukaku as the mainstay players brought by Conte. I hope things go very well for everyone.

Both Napoli and Osimhen are doing just fine after the loan deal. Antonio Conte is building a good team that is competing for the top spot in the Seria A. Rumelu Lukaku is not also doing badly have scored two goals and given two assists. Victor is gradually integrating into the Galastaray team and has grown to be an important player. His removal in their last game against Kasımpaşa S.K. affected the club's performance and made them lose two points. He has scored two times and assisted others three times to score. Anyway, we might keep hearing rumours about his transfer until he secures a permanent deal from any club.
 
Every single point matters in football so despite the fact that we are still at the early stages of the league, just like you rightly said, it is impressive seeing how great Napoli have become under the management of Antonio Conte. What he is doing in Napoli is far greater than what he did with his most recent club Tottenham and I have the confidence that he will finish this season strong. To be honest, I did not see this kind of performance coming but he made it possible even with no much sophisticated players. We need to give him the credit because Napoli has suddenly become a kind of consistent which is a good thing.

Conte is no doubt one of the excellent coaches in Europe. He has successfully transformed some of the clubs he has managed. But he has a history of having problems with players and club management. He is a coach who is highly principled and always wants to have his way. We could see the manifestation of this character when he said he wouldn't work with Victor. He was willing to keep the Nigerian international out of the squad for an entire season. 

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October 03, 2024, 02:15:18 PM
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News about Osimhen is sometimes exaggerated or made too dramatic by some news media. So, all of this can cause some misunderstandings for those who don't explore it further. But that problem has now passed. And now Napoli are fighting with Conte and all the existing players and with their mainstay striker, Lukaku. Likewise, Osimhen is currently struggling with the club that borrowed his services this season, namely Galatasaray. And it looks like Osimhen has recently managed to score a few goals for Galatasaray. Which means Osimhen has started to adapt well there. And Napoli are now also doing well with Conte and Lukaku as the mainstay players brought by Conte. I hope things go very well for everyone.
Napoli no longer need Osimhen now that they have been able to show a much better team performance at the start of this season, fans have forgotten about Osimhen and Lukaku has been very successful in replacing Osimhen's position.
Regardless of Osimhen's problems with Napoli and some negative news about both of them, I think it is no longer important.
Osimhen currently has to focus on his career development with the Galatasaray team which of course will be quite difficult for Osimhen to rise and Napoli with coach Conte will continue to focus on maintaining the consistency of the team so the two are no longer related now.

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October 03, 2024, 02:15:49 PM
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Osimhen's problem is only with the club because Osimhen no longer wants to play for Napoli and wants to immediately find a new club. Unfortunately he failed to find a new team that could sign him permanently. So he found a solution by being transferred to Galatasaray. Osimhen and Conte don't seem to have any problems. Because Conte did not play Osimhen because at that time Osimhen's status was uncertain, namely whether he would be released or not. And it's not good to play a player who no longer feels comfortable playing for the club. I respect Osimhen because his change in attitude towards the club is also quite justified. but yeah, sometimes these players also rate themselves too highly. So in the end he had to be loaned out. because Conte already has a mainstay player brought in in the transfer market, namely Lukaku, to replace Osimhen. And automatically makes Osimhen no longer needed.
In addition to Napoli asking for a very high transfer fee, Osimhen himself also asked for a fairly large salary, making it difficult for several clubs who wanted to sign him to meet it. So this problem is not only on Napoli because they also determine, because if his salary is not too big then PSG or several other clubs will be able to afford it. Conte did not include Osimhen in his plans and that was also the reason for Osimhen to accept the loan, the reason being that there was too much drama that could affect their strength.

Regardless of who is wrong and right, Osimhen should be able to get a new club so he can continue his career. Galatasaray could make Osimhen permanent as long as he is willing to lower his salary, but I hope Osimhen returns to play at a much better club and has a big name.

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October 03, 2024, 02:29:46 PM
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Osimhen has become a burden for the team lately, he fell out with De Laurentiis and later with Conte, who suspended him from training, so for discipline in the team they had to get rid of him.

Osimhen was already in the market before Conte was hired was he? He had his issues with Napoli since September of 2023 and that was before Conte was hired. His issue with Napoli started when the Napoli official tiktok poster videos mocking Osimhen after he missed a penalty. Osimhen was blamed for their poor form.
I know Osimhen has his role to play in his issue with Napoli, but don't make it look like he's just an I disciplined player that doesn't have regards for any of his coaches. The moment things went bad for the club after the season they won the league, the club turned against him, even though he didn't do much to help his case.

If Napoli, Inter and Juventus keep up the same pace until the end of the championship, maybe we will have something like competition in Serie A.

What do you mean "something like competition"? Are you implying that there has not been competition in the Serie A? If that's what you're implying then you have not been following the league. Since Inter Milan ended Juventus 9 years winning streak, 3 different teams have won the Serie A in last 4 seasons. No other league in the top 5 leagues in Europe can boost of that. That shows a competitive league.

The league winner might run away with the league, (except when AC Milan won it with 2 points ahead of Inter), but the 2nd to 5th position is closely competitive. There is usually just a 2 to 4 points difference between the 2nd and 5th position. That's competition. The Serie A has been the most competitive league in Europe for the past 5 seasons.

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October 03, 2024, 02:34:40 PM
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I agree with your views on comparing Osimhen with Lukaku, two very different players in regard to their age and development. It's fair to say that Osimhen brings a lot of potential for future growth and performance. Each player indeed has their own unique strengths and weaknesses, and their value to a team cannot be simply compared.
Players who have potential when they are in a team will certainly be the difference with other players because players who have potential in every match will be key players for their colleagues even though the coach must care about all players in every line in order to continue to improve the strength of his own team. This season Napoli has again shown its ability through existing players including Lukaku in it, but Napoli still has to be more consistent and Lukaku also still has to work better during this season, as well as Osimhen in other leagues.

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October 03, 2024, 02:54:34 PM
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* Napoli - Como => Napoli

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Maybe it's your right to see some matches for Napoli, but on the other hand I predict that this match will have a draw score, it might seem impossible for COMO but seeing COMO's improvement in Serie A it seems like they will put up a good fight at Napoli's home, that's why I dare to take the decision to say this.

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October 03, 2024, 03:45:28 PM
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* Napoli - Como => Napoli

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Maybe it's your right to see some matches for Napoli, but on the other hand I predict that this match will have a draw score, it might seem impossible for COMO but seeing COMO's improvement in Serie A it seems like they will put up a good fight at Napoli's home, that's why I dare to take the decision to say this.
A draw is possible considering they have won their last two games in a row, Como have clearly shown improvement and I think Cesc Fabregas' squad has adapted well to Serie A.
There is nothing impossible in football, for example at Atalanta's home ground Como could win with a fairly large score, in this match it could happen again although it is unlikely considering Napoli are currently at the top of the standings and 3 points are the target for Conte's troops to distance points from Juventus who are below them.
However, I will not deny that Napoli are indeed favorites in this match, we'll see tomorrow if there will be a surprise.?

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October 03, 2024, 04:27:36 PM
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I agree with your views on comparing Osimhen with Lukaku, two very different players in regard to their age and development. It's fair to say that Osimhen brings a lot of potential for future growth and performance. Each player indeed has their own unique strengths and weaknesses, and their value to a team cannot be simply compared.
Players who have potential when they are in a team will certainly be the difference with other players because players who have potential in every match will be key players for their colleagues even though the coach must care about all players in every line in order to continue to improve the strength of his own team. This season Napoli has again shown its ability through existing players including Lukaku in it, but Napoli still has to be more consistent and Lukaku also still has to work better during this season, as well as Osimhen in other leagues.
Isn't Osimhen already at Galatasaray at the moment, no need to remember him anymore, he has developed well in the Turkish league today, it is very good for his development because Napoli I think took the wrong action, sorry not a mistake but it was not right.

Lukaku is good enough and can still produce goals for Napoli, I think he is also good enough to be at Napoli although if compared it is difficult to equalize which one is better because it depends on how our object thinks about Napoli or the players themselves, but overall this is a decision that is considered good by the Napoli football team itself.

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October 03, 2024, 04:28:59 PM
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I agree with your views on comparing Osimhen with Lukaku, two very different players in regard to their age and development. It's fair to say that Osimhen brings a lot of potential for future growth and performance. Each player indeed has their own unique strengths and weaknesses, and their value to a team cannot be simply compared.
Players who have potential when they are in a team will certainly be the difference with other players because players who have potential in every match will be key players for their colleagues even though the coach must care about all players in every line in order to continue to improve the strength of his own team. This season Napoli has again shown its ability through existing players including Lukaku in it, but Napoli still has to be more consistent and Lukaku also still has to work better during this season, as well as Osimhen in other leagues.

Basically Lukaku and Osimhen are great players but unfortunately, Conte only chose one of them and I think it's not so right even though so far Conte has succeeded in making Napoli get good results. Because of course, if Osimhen is still maintained then it will be good for Napoli to rotate players, especially since Osimhen is still young which is certainly good for the long term, because in the previous season Napoli also extended Osimhen's contract.

At least, this factor also disappointed me, because if Napoli didn't want Osimhen, then there was  no need for Napoli to give a new contract and salary  increase at that time. Because after all, if in the end Osimhen is not needed by the team, then it is better for Napoli to sell him  at that time after getting the scudetto, but Napoli kept Osimhen and made Osimhen's career bad by throwing Osimhen away like that.

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October 03, 2024, 04:52:50 PM
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* Napoli - Como => Napoli

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i try to give trust on Napoli
Maybe it's your right to see some matches for Napoli, but on the other hand I predict that this match will have a draw score, it might seem impossible for COMO but seeing COMO's improvement in Serie A it seems like they will put up a good fight at Napoli's home, that's why I dare to take the decision to say this.
Como is seen giving positive developments in the past few weeks, if you think about it against Napoli I think it will be very difficult for the game now, especially the game is at home to Napoli, it is not an easy task for Como, then Napoli as well as leaders of the Serie League standings A, meanwhile Como is in 10th position with a difference of 5 points, it is not too far but I think it will be very difficult to get a draw even if you think of victory, maybe luck like a kick in the penalty box can be a big thing for Como.

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October 03, 2024, 04:55:49 PM
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At the very begining of the season in the first games when i see and read the names in the Napoli line up, were pretty bad, b ut now with the last players who comes in the late phase of the market plus some players who comeback from injuries seems like a very good team overall, and with a good coach like Conte i think they can make some very good noise.

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October 03, 2024, 05:01:16 PM
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Osimhen has become a burden for the team lately, he fell out with De Laurentiis and later with Conte, who suspended him from training, so for discipline in the team they had to get rid of him. Lukaku has fit in very well, you can see that he is trying very hard, he likes working with Conte and that was their original goal to get him in the team. If Napoli, Inter and Juventus keep up the same pace until the end of the championship, maybe we will have something like competition in Serie A.

I don't know what has happened between the club president and Victor Oshime but, saying he fell out with Antonio Conte is nothing but misinformation truthfully. They had talks together but Victor Oshime stated he wants to leave the club, Antonio Conte even came out to say that he will not get involved with whatever that happened last season. I hate the comparison between Victor Oshime and Romelu Lukaku, check the stats and you'd see that having Victor Oshime in your sqaud is a great thing. Well, I'm rooting for Napoli to win the Seria A Scudetto League Competition.
The drama that occurred between Victor Oshime and the club president has been going on for a long time and is indeed difficult to fix, that's why Victor Oshime stated that he wanted to leave the club and wanted to play for another club. However, in fact, Victor Oshime's transfer was also not easy because Napoli set a very high price at the beginning, many EPL teams wanted his services but were constrained by the price, including Arsenal if I'm not mistaken. In the end, Victor Oshime landed at a club in Turkey, so actually Victor Oshime's problem was with the club president and there was no problem with Conte.

Because the relationship between Osimhen and Napoli is difficult to repair, of course coach Antonio Conte who has just joined Napoli will practically not work with him, so he prefers Lukaku who has worked with him. Yes. Osimhen is not bad as a striker, even his status as the Serie A goal king in 2022-2023.

Now that Napoli has gone through the drama, Napoli's focus is now on continuing to improve their performance so that they can remain consistent and can get trophies this season, especially the Scudetto trophy.

 
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