Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[shogun47]

everyone has the same thought as you but look at the current standings in the bundesliga, there are 3 teams that are level on points (43 points) and all three only have a difference in goals. if bayern always wins the bundeliga trophy then the bundesliga will always be boring, with very competitive competition in the standings then the current league looks very interesting and almost as interesting as the english league (EPL).

there are still 12 matches to go, which means there are a lot of points to fight for and all three (bayern - dortmund - union) almost have an equal chance.

Seems different with Bundesliga compete this season until matchday 21 between Bayern Munich, Dortmund and Union Berlin have the same points on current standing position beside top fourth standing have fewest points left. I am so excited with Bayern Munich dominance more than ten years will be broke by Dortmund or Union Berlin with the same points having right now.

Still as predicting because Bundesliga have 12 matches left, everything possible with Bayern Munich become the winner or potential have surprise with underdog team like Union Berlin finally become the champion. No close chance if Dortmund having consistency performance on 12 matches left will get chance as the winner after last ten years.

Bayern now has won 10 Bundesliga championships in a row. I think if something like that happens, the fans of Bayern Munich might like it but for the overall perception of the league it is bad. It doesn't feel like an outstanding achievement anymore at some point because you think that something is wrong in terms of the balance of power within the league and between the teams.

I remember when Leicester City won the Premier League in 2016, that season was so much fun to watch and I recall how excited I was to see whether they made it again every weekend. In Germany it is now close to impossible for any other club to win the championship and if even Dortmund couldn't make it for 10 years in a row, how should any other club be able to?

This is why I hope that Union Berlin stays at the top and keeps fighting for as long as possible and I would have no problem with seeing them winning it. They have been promoted to the Bundesliga not so long ago and would finally be a nice story to see that club break the reign of Bayern Munich.

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[Juggy777]

In Week 22 of the Bundesliga, we will be presented with a match that will really determine the position of the top 3 teams. Yes, this week we will see Baayern Munich host Union Berlin at the Allianz Arena. This match is very crucial for both teams because whoever wins from these two teams will get a huge advantage in the Bundesliga standings. In their last 5 meetings, Bayern Munich won 2 times and the other 3 ended in a draw. There is hope for Union Berlin to improve their record against Bayern Munich in this match.

The winner from the derby of bayern against berlin will be making the gaps for the club who loses in the match. Im sure that if berlin was trying to be more careful with bayern despite the fact that bayern was getting bad achievements in the last matches of bundesliga but bayern may come back stronger against berlin. Bayern is also having very good head to head against union berlin. I guess that if berlin shall go to the fully defensive strategy to make sure.

Bookies put bayern as the most favorite club in the upcoming match against berlin.



It can be seen how small bayern's odd. The performance from berlin is not so bad at all but i think that people gonna take safe bet rather than union berlin. berlin's odd is very big.

This match is quite risky to bet on, if we look at the previous matches, Bayern Munich lost while Union Berlin only got a draw. But Upamecano's absence due to a red card against Gladbach will certainly be a gap in Bayern Munich's defense and Union Berlin players can put it to good use to score goals. But what is certain is that this match could end in a draw considering that both of them have the same goal to secure a place at the top of the standings.

I had a look at the odds and you almost get a 5.5 for a draw and a 3.2 for X/2 Union Berlin. What makes me wonder is that the bookies give odds to Union Berlin winning as if they were Mainz 05. How are the bookies so convinced that Bayern is going to make it? I mean I also think that Bayern will win this game as this very typical for them to win the important ones, but still I feel the odds are a bit off here. What do you think? Are odds of over 9 worth a little bet on Union Berlin? At the same time a win for Bayern only gives you a little bit more than 1.3. That is just too low.

I would definitely choose to bet on Union Berlin at 8.60 odds and this seems like an understated advantage for most people. There are other options such as betting over 2 goals or 2.5 goals because it is certain that this match will result in mutual goals. But then again, the Union Berlin odds are really exaggerated and for sure it makes one feel a bit confused.

@mv1986 I believe that the odds for Berlin are too good, and one should consider wagering a small amount on them because if they win then one will win quiet a big amount without risking too much. Furthermore Bayern hasn’t been in top form this season, hence there’s a chance that they can be defeated by Berlin so in my personal opinion wagering on Bayern doesn’t makes much sense as the odds are too low.

[harapan]

Yo, I'm totally with you on that skepticism about Dortmund. They've straight-up let us down in the clutch before. But hear me out, man. Maybe this year could be the year they turn it around. They got some sick players who can bring the heat and take over a game. But like, they've always been inconsistent, holding themselves back. It's just wack, you know? Like they can't even beat teams they should be destroying. It's like they got a serious "Bayern complex," where they freeze up against Bayern and can't handle the heat. But yo, I'm crossing my fingers that this year they break that mentality and stay on top of their game. If they do, they could definitely give Bayern a run for their money. As for my feelings, being a Dortmund fan is like being on a wild rollercoaster. They keep you on the edge of your seat with all the unpredictability, but that's what makes being a soccer fan so damn exciting. They are now at the 2nd position

Inconsistency is Dortmund's biggest problem, it has been for years. It happens every season. Even this season. The difference with this season is Bayern is also inconsistent because if Bayern was as consistent as they usually are they would be like 10 points ahead by now. Dortmund would meet a team at the first half of the table and destroy them with a 4-1 score line, then they will meet a team in the relegation zone the next week and lose 1-0. It's so disappointing. I would like to see them win the Bundesliga this season but their perpetual inconsistency is what I fear and the reason I don't want to get my hopes up.

[mv1986]

Yo, I'm totally with you on that skepticism about Dortmund. They've straight-up let us down in the clutch before. But hear me out, man. Maybe this year could be the year they turn it around. They got some sick players who can bring the heat and take over a game. But like, they've always been inconsistent, holding themselves back. It's just wack, you know? Like they can't even beat teams they should be destroying. It's like they got a serious "Bayern complex," where they freeze up against Bayern and can't handle the heat. But yo, I'm crossing my fingers that this year they break that mentality and stay on top of their game. If they do, they could definitely give Bayern a run for their money. As for my feelings, being a Dortmund fan is like being on a wild rollercoaster. They keep you on the edge of your seat with all the unpredictability, but that's what makes being a soccer fan so damn exciting. They are now at the 2nd position

Inconsistency is Dortmund's biggest problem, it has been for years. It happens every season. Even this season. The difference with this season is Bayern is also inconsistent because if Bayern was as consistent as they usually are they would be like 10 points ahead by now. Dortmund would meet a team at the first half of the table and destroy them with a 4-1 score line, then they will meet a team in the relegation zone the next week and lose 1-0. It's so disappointing. I would like to see them win the Bundesliga this season but their perpetual inconsistency is what I fear and the reason I don't want to get my hopes up.

This is the correct analysis in my opinion. The whole table only is so dense because Bayern is struggling. When Bayern plays a good season I think it would probably be already over.

They have already lost 20 points so far. This means that is almost equal to 7 losses. Since they have so many ties the stats don't look as bad, but essentially it would mean almost 7 losses, which is well below average for Bayern. In some seasons they would be 10 points ahead now.

It's exactly the way you described it with an amazing win one week and a catastrophic loss the following week and nobody knows why the hell that is happening. But they couldn't fix that for almost a decade now. I think there were one or two seasons where they scored more than 80 points, but they lost it every time because of their sudden failures.

[bct_ail]

This is the correct analysis in my opinion. The whole table only is so dense because Bayern is struggling. When Bayern plays a good season I think it would probably be already over.

Yes, that is how I see it too. But the problem is usually that when Bayern Munich does not play well and has a weak phase the other teams can not manage to take advantage of this phase. They then also lose their games. That is a matter of the head. Bayern Munich has been so dominant for decades that most player from other clubs have a block in their head when it comes to overtaking them. At any rate that is the only explanation that is plausible for me.

[alpamar99]

Yo, I'm totally with you on that skepticism about Dortmund. They've straight-up let us down in the clutch before. But hear me out, man. Maybe this year could be the year they turn it around. They got some sick players who can bring the heat and take over a game. But like, they've always been inconsistent, holding themselves back. It's just wack, you know? Like they can't even beat teams they should be destroying. It's like they got a serious "Bayern complex," where they freeze up against Bayern and can't handle the heat. But yo, I'm crossing my fingers that this year they break that mentality and stay on top of their game. If they do, they could definitely give Bayern a run for their money. As for my feelings, being a Dortmund fan is like being on a wild rollercoaster. They keep you on the edge of your seat with all the unpredictability, but that's what makes being a soccer fan so damn exciting. They are now at the 2nd position

Inconsistency is Dortmund's biggest problem, it has been for years. It happens every season. Even this season. The difference with this season is Bayern is also inconsistent because if Bayern was as consistent as they usually are they would be like 10 points ahead by now. Dortmund would meet a team at the first half of the table and destroy them with a 4-1 score line, then they will meet a team in the relegation zone the next week and lose 1-0. It's so disappointing. I would like to see them win the Bundesliga this season but their perpetual inconsistency is what I fear and the reason I don't want to get my hopes up.

Bayern considered several conditions and they seem to understand because the focus is on the Champions League. But with the current conditions this is actually good because with that the conditions in the League are still quite interesting now.
For Dortmund now they have very good momentum at the moment, especially with Haller recovering and Adayemi's performance is improving, although now he must be forced to rest

[bounceback]

We don't need to doubt Bayern Munich, which has very strong winning DNA in the Bundesliga. What I'm currently thinking about is how the two teams with the same points can continue to be consistent and not lose a single point in the remaining matches that are now available. One defeat will leave them behind, and if that happens to Borussia Dortmund and UnIon Berlin, then Bayern Munich will be a little more comfortable even though the points are so tight.

Bayern Munich may find it easy to always win when they still have great strikers, but in reality the great players from Bayern Munich have been bought by other clubs, making it difficult for Bayern Munich to win again. As far as I can see from Bayern Munich's greatness starting to decline, they have to get up to be able to get a win in the Bundesliga this season because Union Berlin and Dortmund are trying to win first place and win in the Bundesliga this season.

This season Bayern Muchen is getting tough competition in the Bundesliga league and if you want to stay at the top of the standings comfortably then they must always win in the next game, now Nagelsman must be able to apply a new strategy to the Bayern Muchen squad so that the team's performance returns consistently because if Nagelsman If you can't do that and motivate the players, it is possible that competitors at the top of the standings can overtake the Bayern Muchen team, especially if we look at the Dortmound team and the Union Berlin team, they look very consistent when playing.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Wow, it looks like Schalke can play well because they managed to control the match. But unfortunately, Schalke still couldn't get three points in the match against Wolfsburg yesterday. Even if I consider the results of the statistics that Schalke has, then Schalke deserves to win three points in that match.
But yes, maybe Schalke is still not lucky enough, but if Schalke can maintain good gameplay like that for the next match, then Schalke can earn points for each match.

The draw is more than enough for schalke. What is really needed by schalke is point. It doesn't matter whether it's much or low but as long as schalke was not losing full points and that would be enough. The draw against wolfsburg was predictable. I would say that if schalke has so many disadvantages jst as it has non skillful players compared with wolfsburg, schalke didn't have chemistry between its players, it doesn't have money to be quality players from the market.
There are many disadvantages owned by schalke compared with wolfsburg. That's very sad to see schalke in the relegation zone but there are lots of reasons why it's happening to the schalke. The popularity of team has been declining a lot since a few years ago.

Schalke is a team that can have many favorable things that they can use to get ahead, the fact that they have lost against Wolfsburg is not that everything is lost, what they have to do is not let themselves win anymore, they have to play every game they play As if it were a final, they can't leave everything half done, a draw is not the right thing for Schalke, they have to think only about winning, no team is recommended to be relegated, so they have to take good care of their position so they don't leave down, they have a very good opportunity to raise their heads, not everything is lost, only now they have to take things more seriously in each game.

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[AverageGlabella]

This is the correct analysis in my opinion. The whole table only is so dense because Bayern is struggling. When Bayern plays a good season I think it would probably be already over.

They have already lost 20 points so far. This means that is almost equal to 7 losses. Since they have so many ties the stats don't look as bad, but essentially it would mean almost 7 losses, which is well below average for Bayern. In some seasons they would be 10 points ahead now.

Bayern are the only team that can afford investment every season and they like to target competitors to take their strongest players. They always raid Dortmunds best players and imo Dortmund are the only team that challenges them every season but it is true when Bayern struggle the league is closer but when they are on form they win by a lot of points and it reminds me of the French league where PSG find it easy every season. It could be the reason Bayern focus on the Champions league because they always win the Bundesliga and we might get a new winner this season.

[Leviathan.007]

This is the correct analysis in my opinion. The whole table only is so dense because Bayern is struggling. When Bayern plays a good season I think it would probably be already over.

They have already lost 20 points so far. This means that is almost equal to 7 losses. Since they have so many ties the stats don't look as bad, but essentially it would mean almost 7 losses, which is well below average for Bayern. In some seasons they would be 10 points ahead now.

Bayern are the only team that can afford investment every season and they like to target competitors to take their strongest players. They always raid Dortmunds best players and imo Dortmund are the only team that challenges them every season but it is true when Bayern struggle the league is closer but when they are on form they win by a lot of points and it reminds me of the French league where PSG find it easy every season. It could be the reason Bayern focus on the Champions league because they always win the Bundesliga and we might get a new winner this season.

Actually, that is the reason why Bayern Munich could be the first team if Germany for years. Their strategy is to target the strongest competitors they have in Bundesliga and then they find the key players in that team to send offers for the players even if they don't need the player but as you said Bayern Munich is the only team in Germany they have enough financial resources to do that, now we see Dortmund is racing with then in the league nad they probably will start sending offers for their players soon.

[hahay]

This is the correct analysis in my opinion. The whole table only is so dense because Bayern is struggling. When Bayern plays a good season I think it would probably be already over.

They have already lost 20 points so far. This means that is almost equal to 7 losses. Since they have so many ties the stats don't look as bad, but essentially it would mean almost 7 losses, which is well below average for Bayern. In some seasons they would be 10 points ahead now.

Bayern are the only team that can afford investment every season and they like to target competitors to take their strongest players. They always raid Dortmunds best players and imo Dortmund are the only team that challenges them every season but it is true when Bayern struggle the league is closer but when they are on form they win by a lot of points and it reminds me of the French league where PSG find it easy every season. It could be the reason Bayern focus on the Champions league because they always win the Bundesliga and we might get a new winner this season.

Actually, that is the reason why Bayern Munich could be the first team if Germany for years. Their strategy is to target the strongest competitors they have in Bundesliga and then they find the key players in that team to send offers for the players even if they don't need the player but as you said Bayern Munich is the only team in Germany they have enough financial resources to do that, now we see Dortmund is racing with then in the league nad they probably will start sending offers for their players soon.

Basically Bayern Munich always focuses on the Bundesliga and also the Champions League every season, so even if you say Bayern Munich will focus more on the Champions League, in reality Bayern Munich will remain strong in the Bundesliga. Also, even though currently Bayern Munich's position is no longer safe but I'm still pretty sure, at the end of the season Bayern Munich will still win the title.

But indeed, the competition in the title race this season will be very competitive because Bayern Munich's performance is also not as good as in previous seasons. Because from the start of this season, Bayern Munich has not been smooth in getting points in every match they have played.

[Alanaz]

This is the correct analysis in my opinion. The whole table only is so dense because Bayern is struggling. When Bayern plays a good season I think it would probably be already over.

They have already lost 20 points so far. This means that is almost equal to 7 losses. Since they have so many ties the stats don't look as bad, but essentially it would mean almost 7 losses, which is well below average for Bayern. In some seasons they would be 10 points ahead now.

I agree with you that the currently very tight standings cannot be separated from the declining performance of Bayern Munich. But it is also possible that other teams have also made improvements, and these improvements have not been seen because they have been overshadowed by the decline of Bayern Munich. Apart from all that, I think it's good because we see the very tough competition shown by the Bundesliga this season with all the drama we see in their matches.

[rahmad2nd]

This week is actually like an opportunity for Dortmund to take the lead in the standings. However it depends on whether Bayern Munich really lost points against Union Berlin. On paper Bayern Munich are very highly favoured of course. But we shouldn't look at only this before betting of course. Union Berlin are a quite dangerous team actually. They stole one point from Bayern Munich in this season already. Maybe this match is going to be in Allianz Arena but Bayern Munich are an unpredictable team as well.

We have witnessed Bayern Munich losing points in very unexpected matches. Hence I don't think anything is guaranteed here either. I'm thinking of betting on both teams to score for this one.

The probability of Dortmund to overthrow Hoffenheim is very high. so most likely, Dortmund will shift the top of the Bundesliga standings. though, only temporarily. even then, if Bayern wins the game over Union Berlin. however, their tough opponent is Leipzig. the following week, Dortmund will host Liepzig at Signal Iduna Park, their own headquarters. the match later, will be a match for revenge for Dotmund which Leipzig beat with a landslide score in the first meeting. but unfortunately, Edin Terzic has to share his focus because they have another important match that will be visiting Chelsea headquarters. well, we'll see how much Dortmund is able to maintain consistency and move on with a positive trend.

On the other hand, the Bayern vs Berlin match is a decisive match for these two teams. however, after all on paper Bayern are more favorites in this match. also, Bayern will play in front of its own public. so, most likely the scenario is that Nagelsmann will target full points against Berlin and Stuttgart before playing the Champions League match which will host PSG in the second leg later.

[Iranus]

Bayern are the only team that can afford investment every season and they like to target competitors to take their strongest players. They always raid Dortmunds best players and imo Dortmund are the only team that challenges them every season but it is true when Bayern struggle the league is closer but when they are on form they win by a lot of points and it reminds me of the French league where PSG find it easy every season. It could be the reason Bayern focus on the Champions league because they always win the Bundesliga and we might get a new winner this season.

Actually, that is the reason why Bayern Munich could be the first team if Germany for years. Their strategy is to target the strongest competitors they have in Bundesliga and then they find the key players in that team to send offers for the players even if they don't need the player but as you said Bayern Munich is the only team in Germany they have enough financial resources to do that, now we see Dortmund is racing with then in the league nad they probably will start sending offers for their players soon.

Basically Bayern Munich always focuses on the Bundesliga and also the Champions League every season, so even if you say Bayern Munich will focus more on the Champions League, in reality Bayern Munich will remain strong in the Bundesliga. Also, even though currently Bayern Munich's position is no longer safe but I'm still pretty sure, at the end of the season Bayern Munich will still win the title.
But indeed, the competition in the title race this season will be very competitive because Bayern Munich's performance is also not as good as in previous seasons. Because from the start of this season, Bayern Munich has not been smooth in getting points in every match they have played.

Bayern Munich is right now not in a very good position. They have the same points as Union Berlin and Dortmund. And the main reason for that is they are currently concentrating heavily on the Champions League. They have a good aggregate lead over PSG. Even though it is just only one goal, I believe it is going to be crucial to bringing it into the second leg. If it wasn't for the Champions League, Bayern Munich would have confirmed for better in Bundesliga.

I still do not believe that Bayern Munich is going to lose the Bundesliga title to anyone. What I am most interested in is the next match. Which is going to be played against Union Berlin. I would love to see Union Berlin win not going to lie.

[fullhdpixel]

I would definitely choose to bet on Union Berlin at 8.60 odds and this seems like an understated advantage for most people. There are other options such as betting over 2 goals or 2.5 goals because it is certain that this match will result in mutual goals. But then again, the Union Berlin odds are really exaggerated and for sure it makes one feel a bit confused.

8.60 is not something we can ignore especially if you consider the recent games we saw from these two teams but you should not forget that during the last five games, these two teams Union Berlin could never beat Bayern Munich and they had 4 draws. But if Union Berlin wins this game they can be 46 points and take first place in the league so this match is very much important for both teams this week because of their positions on the table.

I agree that it is going to be a troubling game and I understand that Union Berlin will be a big opponent to play against, but I also believe that they already have a good team and they will most probably win that game. Maybe they haven't been as dominant as they used to be but that doesn't mean that they are going to end up losing neither, it just means that they are going to end up with a harder win, but a win nevertheless.

I believe that Bayern will get this game, and put themselves a bit of ease, at least against Union Berlin. I know they have been having a hard year, but I have full confidence that they will get the title this season too.

[Distraction]

Can Dortmund really play big for the league championship this season? It seems very likely indeed according to the current situation in the league.

We don't see the current scenario in the Bundesliga very often. Bayern Munich are struggling this much for the first time in I don't know how many years.    There is Union Berlin in the title race also actually but I don't think they can fight with these two teams until the end of the season. They already had a bad time period before in the season and they can surely have another one. They don't have a squad that is as quality as theirs in the end. It is harder for them to maintain a solid form that long.

[GiftedMAN]

I would definitely choose to bet on Union Berlin at 8.60 odds and this seems like an understated advantage for most people. There are other options such as betting over 2 goals or 2.5 goals because it is certain that this match will result in mutual goals. But then again, the Union Berlin odds are really exaggerated and for sure it makes one feel a bit confused.

8.60 is not something we can ignore especially if you consider the recent games we saw from these two teams but you should not forget that during the last five games, these two teams Union Berlin could never beat Bayern Munich and they had 4 draws. But if Union Berlin wins this game they can be 46 points and take first place in the league so this match is very much important for both teams this week because of their positions on the table.

I agree that it is going to be a troubling game and I understand that Union Berlin will be a big opponent to play against, but I also believe that they already have a good team and they will most probably win that game. Maybe they haven't been as dominant as they used to be but that doesn't mean that they are going to end up losing neither, it just means that they are going to end up with a harder win, but a win nevertheless.

I believe that Bayern will get this game, and put themselves a bit of ease, at least against Union Berlin. I know they have been having a hard year, but I have full confidence that they will get the title this season too.

Union Berlin may appear to be a strong opponent against Bayern Munich but they are not as solid as we think they are and regardless of the poor performance of Bayern Munich they are the the better team to win the game .

Bayern Munich knows how to win strong opponent and I think they will surely win Berlin and maintain them position as league leaders.

[herurist]

Personally, I don't think Union Berlin will be champion in this season. That seems unlikely to me. This group is not weak. However, the team's performance suddenly dropped. Against Schalke they definitely should have earned full points. But they can't do it. Union Berlin had a poor performance against Schalke. I think Dortmund and Bayern Munich teams are doing much better than Berlin right now. And if Dortmund continues to perform like they are now, Dortmund has a chance to win the title.

Not only you but everyone will definitely not think about conditions like this because the possibility is clearly very small. But what they did this time was really very inconvenient and of course this was something that was really good at making Bayern at least uncomfortable with their current condition.
But at the end of the season, in the end, only Bayern could bring the trophy.

[Leviathan.007]

Basically Bayern Munich always focuses on the Bundesliga and also the Champions League every season, so even if you say Bayern Munich will focus more on the Champions League, in reality Bayern Munich will remain strong in the Bundesliga. Also, even though currently Bayern Munich's position is no longer safe but I'm still pretty sure, at the end of the season Bayern Munich will still win the title.

But indeed, the competition in the title race this season will be very competitive because Bayern Munich's performance is also not as good as in previous seasons. Because from the start of this season, Bayern Munich has not been smooth in getting points in every match they have played.

That's the reason why the Bundesliga is getting more interesting every year, if you remember the last years of the Bundesliga, usually, we had only Bayern Munich racing the league and all other teams were unable to even get near to them and they could easily focus on the champions league because there were not really worry about Bundesliga, but this time they had two competitors while Durtmound, their tradition competitor is really close and performing well and they have the same amount of points with Durtmond and Union Berlin right now.

[Bobrox]

Most excited match for watching on Bundesliga matchday 22 between Bayern Munich vs Union Berlin, current standing both teams having the same 43 points and the winner in this match potential lead 1st Bundesliga position depend on result Dortmund match against Hoffeinhem because having the same points with Bayern Munich and Union Berlin.

Still compete with Bundesliga until matchday 22 because current standing third team between Bayern Munich, Dortmund and Union Berlin have the same points, seems first time in Bundesliga edition era after ten years dominance by Bayern Munich with many points gap from the other team but this season have been change drastically.