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December 14, 2023, 04:55:53 AM
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Union Berlin might be making progress but it is still early though. They won their last game which was against Gladbach. It was a comfortable win in terms of the final score as well. Next time they are playing an away game against Bochum and I would like to see the same productivity from them continuing. However I wouldn't bet on Union Berlin of course as they aren't reliable at all for now.

Their performance dropped very sharply compared to the previous season but I don't think it will come to their even relegation from the Bundesliga. Every decent team have hard times. The most important thing is to deal with it somehow.
There seems to be hope for Union Berlin to bounce back because their two matches produced four points which has taken them out of the bottom zone for now, and when in the Champions League they were able to score two goals against Real Madrid which was quite extraordinary because they experienced quite a lot of problems in attacking so have performed very poorly since the start of the season but there is hope they will improve.
Against Bochum, there is no favorite team, so Union Berlin, which has momentum, will very likely be able to get points again in this match, and in several of their meetings, both teams have always scored goals, so betting yes on BTTS can be done, considering that Bochum as the home team will certainly not give up. just like that because their position is still too close to the relegation zone, but if Union Berlin manages to get point even just one point then it could be said that the change of coach have quite a good impact on their performance so far.

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December 14, 2023, 07:11:01 AM
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Union Berlin might be making progress but it is still early though. They won their last game which was against Gladbach. It was a comfortable win in terms of the final score as well. Next time they are playing an away game against Bochum and I would like to see the same productivity from them continuing. However I wouldn't bet on Union Berlin of course as they aren't reliable at all for now.

Their performance dropped very sharply compared to the previous season but I don't think it will come to their even relegation from the Bundesliga. Every decent team have hard times. The most important thing is to deal with it somehow.
The best performance I saw from Union Berlin was in the first weeks of the last season when Union Berlin was even on the top side of the Bundesliga and racing for the title with teams like Dortmund and Bayern Munich but we know a team like this could never have the enough potential to race with the top teams and now in this season I think Union Berlin is not in the good situation and Union Berlin is trying to get back in the good form but based on what Isaw from this teams against Real Madrid I can say Union Berlin is far from what they should be.
Now they are out of the Champions League and their improvement bring them out of the relegation in Bundesliga hopefully they already have learned from their mistakes and will do better in coming weeks next game against Bochum is also looking good for them because they are also having just 2 wins and 7 draws here win can give Union Berlin a long time relief but still it's not easy.

In the last season, they are surely strong contender and now living near the relegation zone is completely unacceptable, but now they need to jump even staying into middle of the league table will give them better things and with this all they can also regroup themselves and change their strategy which is currently not working for the better performance.

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December 14, 2023, 07:54:10 AM
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Bayern Munich are regarded as the best club in Germany in past decades. We hope for a change and here it is, happening before our very eyes this season. I would be so glad to watch another club lifts the Bundesliga title this season because Bundesliga have become one of the boring leagues I'm aware of due to Bayern Munich constant domination and constant lifting the league titles. Bayer Leverkusen can proof everyone wrong this season, remember they're unbeaten this season and the incredible performance is all the masterpiece of Xabi Alonso.
I think this era of Bayern Munich been the best club in Germany will soon come to a halt because a few good teams are beginning to come up in the German bundesliga this season and they are really doing so well that Bayern Munich will have to sit up els by the end of this season they may be just finishing amongst top four and not winning the league title.

Stuttgart and Bayern Leverkusen are currently on the move to making the era of Bayern Munich`s dominance in the German bundesliga. Bayern Munich loss few days back to Frankfurt is a clear sign that Munich is soon and gradually loosing their grip on the bundesliga and soonest they will be stripped of their domineering prowess and of course this is really making the bundesliga very interesting as we are all now in anticipation of who could possibly win the league title by the end of the season unlike before when we were also certain of who the winners would be even before the season comes to an end.

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December 14, 2023, 08:39:54 AM
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Union Berlin might be making progress but it is still early though. They won their last game which was against Gladbach. It was a comfortable win in terms of the final score as well. Next time they are playing an away game against Bochum and I would like to see the same productivity from them continuing. However I wouldn't bet on Union Berlin of course as they aren't reliable at all for now.

Their performance dropped very sharply compared to the previous season but I don't think it will come to their even relegation from the Bundesliga. Every decent team have hard times. The most important thing is to deal with it somehow.
There seems to be hope for Union Berlin to bounce back because their two matches produced four points which has taken them out of the bottom zone for now, and when in the Champions League they were able to score two goals against Real Madrid which was quite extraordinary because they experienced quite a lot of problems in attacking so have performed very poorly since the start of the season but there is hope they will improve.
Against Bochum, there is no favorite team, so Union Berlin, which has momentum, will very likely be able to get points again in this match, and in several of their meetings, both teams have always scored goals, so betting yes on BTTS can be done, considering that Bochum as the home team will certainly not give up. just like that because their position is still too close to the relegation zone, but if Union Berlin manages to get point even just one point then it could be said that the change of coach have quite a good impact on their performance so far.
Union Berlin's performance this season has really decreased, this team cannot balance their performance when facing matches in the Champions League and domestic league, but maybe after bad results in the Champions League and not making it to the next round, Union Berlin will return to the domestic league, they can focus more there to improve their position, their current position is already out of the relegation zone in 15th position but this position is not guaranteed to be safe because the relegated teams are also trying to get up and Union Berlin have to fight harder to secure their position at least in the middle standings.

The match against Bochum cannot be predicted with certainty because both teams seem to have almost the same performance but I hope Union Berlin can continue their good record after being able to beat Mönchengladbach with a landslide score of 3:1 but unfortunately this match is an away match for Union Berlin so to bet between these two clubs are too risky.

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December 14, 2023, 08:45:04 AM
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Union Berlin might be making progress but it is still early though. They won their last game which was against Gladbach. It was a comfortable win in terms of the final score as well. Next time they are playing an away game against Bochum and I would like to see the same productivity from them continuing. However I wouldn't bet on Union Berlin of course as they aren't reliable at all for now.

Their performance dropped very sharply compared to the previous season but I don't think it will come to their even relegation from the Bundesliga. Every decent team have hard times. The most important thing is to deal with it somehow.

Union Berlin are now out of the Champions League and can concentrate 100% on the Bundesliga. Travelling and preparations are no longer necessary.
The next two games are very important for Union Berlin. Bochum and Köln are their direct neighbours in the table. These are 6-point games. After thes two games they have some rest over Christmas and New Year's Eve. But shortly after then they have to start training again and have to rehearse the ideas from the new coach.
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December 14, 2023, 09:09:54 AM
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Union Berlin are now out of the Champions League and can concentrate 100% on the Bundesliga. Travelling and preparations are no longer necessary.
The next two games are very important for Union Berlin. Bochum and Köln are their direct neighbours in the table. These are 6-point games. After thes two games they have some rest over Christmas and New Year's Eve. But shortly after then they have to start training again and have to rehearse the ideas from the new coach.
Union Berlin's performance in the Champions League was very bad and failed completely, without win, 4 defeats and 2 draws from 6 matches is very bad record for Union Berlin who made their first appearance in the Champions League. Have three participants teams in Champion League without winning match yet from Union Berlin, Sevilla and Crvena zvezda.

Right now Union Berlin can focus and concentrate 100% for domestic league because they failed to reach Europe League and left Bundesliga as competition in this season. Current standings in Bundesliga, Union Berlin position close with relegation zone and they have wake up if won't relegated to Bundesliga 2 next season because their 10 points the same with FC Koln on the latest teams on relegated position. I hope Union Berlin can raise to higher standings in Bundesliga and finish on Europe League spot standings with 21 matches left.

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December 14, 2023, 09:12:29 AM
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Union Berlin are now out of the Champions League and can concentrate 100% on the Bundesliga. Travelling and preparations are no longer necessary.
The next two games are very important for Union Berlin. Bochum and Köln are their direct neighbours in the table. These are 6-point games. After thes two games they have some rest over Christmas and New Year's Eve. But shortly after then they have to start training again and have to rehearse the ideas from the new coach.
We know how difficult and challenging for these clubs to maintain balance in elite competitions. Not qualifying for next match doesn't seem to be the fault of anyone, rather Union Berlin did their best but will ensure they grab three points and improved their performance in matches. Bundesliga club, Union Berlin is knockout from the UEFA Champions League and currently will focused on their league matches to ensure they're able to maintain stability in the game. Union Berlin headcoach, Nenad Bjelica is promising and will not exits his position, he will uncovered more solid strategies to win upcoming matches.

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December 14, 2023, 09:24:18 AM
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I think this era of Bayern Munich been the best club in Germany will soon come to a halt because a few good teams are beginning to come up in the German bundesliga this season and they are really doing so well that Bayern Munich will have to sit up els by the end of this season they may be just finishing amongst top four and not winning the league title.

Stuttgart and Bayern Leverkusen are currently on the move to making the era of Bayern Munich`s dominance in the German bundesliga. Bayern Munich loss few days back to Frankfurt is a clear sign that Munich is soon and gradually loosing their grip on the bundesliga and soonest they will be stripped of their domineering prowess and of course this is really making the bundesliga very interesting as we are all now in anticipation of who could possibly win the league title by the end of the season unlike before when we were also certain of who the winners would be even before the season comes to an end.

Bayern has sufficient finances to strengthen its team, and if it buys the strongest players from competing teams, it will solve several problems at once. Also, let's not rush and wait until the end of the season, by this time everything may change. But I agree that Bayern with Tuchel has become a slightly different team, they need a more experienced coach, Tuchel is very ambitious, but I am inclined to believe that he has not enough experience to manage such a team, sometimes he gives vent to his emotions, this always bad.

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December 14, 2023, 09:38:01 AM
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I think this era of Bayern Munich been the best club in Germany will soon come to a halt because a few good teams are beginning to come up in the German bundesliga this season and they are really doing so well that Bayern Munich will have to sit up els by the end of this season they may be just finishing amongst top four and not winning the league title.

Stuttgart and Bayern Leverkusen are currently on the move to making the era of Bayern Munich`s dominance in the German bundesliga. Bayern Munich loss few days back to Frankfurt is a clear sign that Munich is soon and gradually loosing their grip on the bundesliga and soonest they will be stripped of their domineering prowess and of course this is really making the bundesliga very interesting as we are all now in anticipation of who could possibly win the league title by the end of the season unlike before when we were also certain of who the winners would be even before the season comes to an end.

Bayern has sufficient finances to strengthen its team, and if it buys the strongest players from competing teams, it will solve several problems at once. Also, let's not rush and wait until the end of the season, by this time everything may change. But I agree that Bayern with Tuchel has become a slightly different team, they need a more experienced coach, Tuchel is very ambitious, but I am inclined to believe that he has not enough experience to manage such a team, sometimes he gives vent to his emotions, this always bad.
Bayern Munich can always get talented players from rival teams and they have done that for many seasons. I think it's not surprising that basically Bayern Munich always dominates the Bundesliga title results because they always get what they want. It is possible that Bayern Munich will still strengthen their squad in the January transfer window to bring in players from rival teams such as Leverkusen and Dortmund.

Talking about Thomas Tuchel, he is quite an experienced coach and perhaps Bayern Munich were interested in bringing him in because when there was a commotion the root of the problem was not clear and actually Julian Nagelsmaan was still a good choice at that time but for some reason the director's decision to fire him was a regret that many people regretted.

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December 14, 2023, 11:14:13 AM
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Bayern Munich can always get talented players from rival teams and they have done that for many seasons. I think it's not surprising that basically Bayern Munich always dominates the Bundesliga title results because they always get what they want. It is possible that Bayern Munich will still strengthen their squad in the January transfer window to bring in players from rival teams such as Leverkusen and Dortmund.

Talking about Thomas Tuchel, he is quite an experienced coach and perhaps Bayern Munich were interested in bringing him in because when there was a commotion the root of the problem was not clear and actually Julian Nagelsmaan was still a good choice at that time but for some reason the director's decision to fire him was a regret that many people regretted.
Even though Dortmund is Bayern Munich's rival, we always remember that Dortmund is a club that produces new talent which can always develop the talents of young players to become very reliable and sell them to other clubs and one of them is Bayern Munich which always gets talented players from Dortmund, even most fans say Dortmund is like a business club that has always been selling talented players for a long time.
You know, Dortmund doesn't always sell its players, of course they have been able to win titles in the Bundesliga several times, breaking Munich's dominance, but in any case, this is a wise decision for the future of the club, but I am very sure that one day there will be a right time for Dortmund to retain their players and break Bayern Munich dominance.
For Leverkusen, it seems that this club will not sell its flagship players because currently Leverkusen has a very clear goal of wanting to replace Bayern Munich in first position so that for this season and next season Leverkusen will not accept any offers from Bayern Munich unless the situation is urgent.

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December 14, 2023, 11:19:13 AM
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Union Berlin might be making progress but it is still early though. They won their last game which was against Gladbach. It was a comfortable win in terms of the final score as well. Next time they are playing an away game against Bochum and I would like to see the same productivity from them continuing. However I wouldn't bet on Union Berlin of course as they aren't reliable at all for now.

Their performance dropped very sharply compared to the previous season but I don't think it will come to their even relegation from the Bundesliga. Every decent team have hard times. The most important thing is to deal with it somehow.

Union Berlin are now out of the Champions League and can concentrate 100% on the Bundesliga. Travelling and preparations are no longer necessary.
The next two games are very important for Union Berlin. Bochum and Köln are their direct neighbours in the table. These are 6-point games. After thes two games they have some rest over Christmas and New Year's Eve. But shortly after then they have to start training again and have to rehearse the ideas from the new coach.
Union fell well below expectations this year. Personally, I was disappointed while watching them. While we think they can be better, they are in 15th place in the Bundesliga. They were eliminated from UCL. It's a very sad season but now it's time to start over. They should concentrate on the league again and start to rise.
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Union Berlin might be making progress but it is still early though. They won their last game which was against Gladbach. It was a comfortable win in terms of the final score as well. Next time they are playing an away game against Bochum and I would like to see the same productivity from them continuing. However I wouldn't bet on Union Berlin of course as they aren't reliable at all for now.

I think it is too early to know that Union Barley performance is back. They only won there first match, and the game that was won was at home, so I think they just try their best to avoid being beat at home. That is why they try all they can to score goals. However, I think we should wait and see some other games that they will play. If they are able to perform the same way, then we can say they are getting their performance back. Even in their upcoming match with Bochum, I can say their performance is back. If they do well, I want them to perform as they did in their last match, like 3 games from there.

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December 14, 2023, 11:40:34 AM
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Union Berlin's performance this season has really decreased, this team cannot balance their performance when facing matches in the Champions League and domestic league, but maybe after bad results in the Champions League and not making it to the next round, Union Berlin will return to the domestic league, they can focus more there to improve their position, their current position is already out of the relegation zone in 15th position but this position is not guaranteed to be safe because the relegated teams are also trying to get up and Union Berlin have to fight harder to secure their position at least in the middle standings.

The match against Bochum cannot be predicted with certainty because both teams seem to have almost the same performance but I hope Union Berlin can continue their good record after being able to beat Mönchengladbach with a landslide score of 3:1 but unfortunately this match is an away match for Union Berlin so to bet between these two clubs are too risky.
Well they've tried their best and it got them that far, too bad it wasn’t enough to see them to the next round and right now they have to come back home and focus on performaning better in their domestic league and see if they’ll get another chance in the Champions league, it's a good thing they've tasted a little experience of what the UCL is all about and it would guide then when next they qualify for the tournament.

 However i doubt if they'll qualitlfy for the UCL next season, based on their current position, they're currently in the 15th position, not even close to the first five, moreover the battle for the top four in the Bundesliga this season is very tough currently and i don't think they'll be able to keep up with Dortmund, Leverkusen,  Bayern Munich and the rest other clubs currently in the top 6, it would take alot of hardwork from them for that to be possible.

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Union Berlin might be making progress but it is still early though. They won their last game which was against Gladbach. It was a comfortable win in terms of the final score as well. Next time they are playing an away game against Bochum and I would like to see the same productivity from them continuing. However I wouldn't bet on Union Berlin of course as they aren't reliable at all for now.

I think it is too early to know that Union Barley performance is back. They only won there first, and the game that was won was at home, so I think they just try their best to avoid being beat at home. That is why they try all they can to score goals. However, I think we should wait and see some other games that they will play. If they are able to perform the same way, then we can say they are getting their performance back. Even in their upcoming match with Bochum, I can say their performance is back. If they do well, I want them to perform as they did in their last match, like 3 games from there.
When compared to the past, what was experienced by the Union Berlin team was very declining, but since the beginning of the season their very poor performance has slowly been improving in a more positive direction and this indicates that this team's performance is likely to improve further.
To be able to fully recover and be like last season I think it will be very difficult for Union Berlin and they need a longer process.

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December 14, 2023, 12:31:02 PM
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Union Berlin might be making progress but it is still early though. They won their last game which was against Gladbach. It was a comfortable win in terms of the final score as well. Next time they are playing an away game against Bochum and I would like to see the same productivity from them continuing. However I wouldn't bet on Union Berlin of course as they aren't reliable at all for now.

Their performance dropped very sharply compared to the previous season but I don't think it will come to their even relegation from the Bundesliga. Every decent team have hard times. The most important thing is to deal with it somehow.

Union Berlin are now out of the Champions League and can concentrate 100% on the Bundesliga. Travelling and preparations are no longer necessary.
The next two games are very important for Union Berlin. Bochum and Köln are their direct neighbours in the table. These are 6-point games. After thes two games they have some rest over Christmas and New Year's Eve. But shortly after then they have to start training again and have to rehearse the ideas from the new coach.

You said it as if Union Berlin is quite exhausted because of the two leagues with the UCL, I don't think it has much effect on the team, just basically Union Berlin is experiencing a decline in this season that makes them lose themselves from the previous season which is quite strong enough to compete, because even in the UCL they only get two points from draws, so I don't think it means Union Berlin is focusing on the UCL.

They are quite an improvement from yesterday's match, but I think they are quite improved if you look at the match against Gladbach, most likely in the next match against Koln and Bochum, Union Berlin can win the match, but indeed I myself have not dared to bet on Union Berlin because their performance is not so promising overall.

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December 14, 2023, 12:33:21 PM
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I think this era of Bayern Munich been the best club in Germany will soon come to a halt because a few good teams are beginning to come up in the German bundesliga this season and they are really doing so well that Bayern Munich will have to sit up els by the end of this season they may be just finishing amongst top four and not winning the league title.

Stuttgart and Bayern Leverkusen are currently on the move to making the era of Bayern Munich`s dominance in the German bundesliga. Bayern Munich loss few days back to Frankfurt is a clear sign that Munich is soon and gradually loosing their grip on the bundesliga and soonest they will be stripped of their domineering prowess and of course this is really making the bundesliga very interesting as we are all now in anticipation of who could possibly win the league title by the end of the season unlike before when we were also certain of who the winners would be even before the season comes to an end.

Bayern has sufficient finances to strengthen its team, and if it buys the strongest players from competing teams, it will solve several problems at once. Also, let's not rush and wait until the end of the season, by this time everything may change. But I agree that Bayern with Tuchel has become a slightly different team, they need a more experienced coach, Tuchel is very ambitious, but I am inclined to believe that he has not enough experience to manage such a team, sometimes he gives vent to his emotions, this always bad.

Yes, I absolutely agree. We should not rush into making any decisions. There is still a long time to go in this season, anything can still happen. Who knows, maybe Bayern Munich will actually see a drop in performance and Bayer Leverkusen will actually be able to win the Bundesliga title. But the opposite thing can also happen. But so far I am not expecting anything from any other team, especially Dortmund. They are really inconsistent and they also do not have the performance on which we can say that they will improve. However it is definitely going to be hilarious if Bayern Munich gets trophy-less this season because this is the season when Harry Kane joined them.

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December 14, 2023, 12:58:41 PM
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Union Berlin might be making progress but it is still early though. They won their last game which was against Gladbach. It was a comfortable win in terms of the final score as well. Next time they are playing an away game against Bochum and I would like to see the same productivity from them continuing. However I wouldn't bet on Union Berlin of course as they aren't reliable at all for now.

Their performance dropped very sharply compared to the previous season but I don't think it will come to their even relegation from the Bundesliga. Every decent team have hard times. The most important thing is to deal with it somehow.

Union Berlin are now out of the Champions League and can concentrate 100% on the Bundesliga. Travelling and preparations are no longer necessary.
The next two games are very important for Union Berlin. Bochum and Köln are their direct neighbours in the table. These are 6-point games. After thes two games they have some rest over Christmas and New Year's Eve. But shortly after then they have to start training again and have to rehearse the ideas from the new coach.

You said it as if Union Berlin is quite exhausted because of the two leagues with the UCL, I don't think it has much effect on the team, just basically Union Berlin is experiencing a decline in this season that makes them lose themselves from the previous season which is quite strong enough to compete, because even in the UCL they only get two points from draws, so I don't think it means Union Berlin is focusing on the UCL.

They are quite an improvement from yesterday's match, but I think they are quite improved if you look at the match against Gladbach, most likely in the next match against Koln and Bochum, Union Berlin can win the match, but indeed I myself have not dared to bet on Union Berlin because their performance is not so promising overall.

Of course it is exhausting to dance on two weddings. But their participation in the Champions League is not the only reason why they have achieved only 10 points in the Bundesliga so far. I have written about the reasons here many times. But regardless of this the Champions League also played a part in the results of the performance from Union Berlin.
I am not going to bet on theier next game against Bochum either. But I expect a draw.
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December 14, 2023, 01:13:45 PM
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Union Berlin might be making progress but it is still early though. They won their last game which was against Gladbach. It was a comfortable win in terms of the final score as well. Next time they are playing an away game against Bochum and I would like to see the same productivity from them continuing. However I wouldn't bet on Union Berlin of course as they aren't reliable at all for now.

I think it is too early to know that Union Barley performance is back. They only won there first, and the game that was won was at home, so I think they just try their best to avoid being beat at home. That is why they try all they can to score goals. However, I think we should wait and see some other games that they will play. If they are able to perform the same way, then we can say they are getting their performance back. Even in their upcoming match with Bochum, I can say their performance is back. If they do well, I want them to perform as they did in their last match, like 3 games from there.
When compared to the past, what was experienced by the Union Berlin team was very declining, but since the beginning of the season their very poor performance has slowly been improving in a more positive direction and this indicates that this team's performance is likely to improve further.
To be able to fully recover and be like last season I think it will be very difficult for Union Berlin and they need a longer process.
Of course, Union Berlin needs a long process to fully recover. In the next match against Bochum, I personally not too sure that Union Berlin can win, considering that Bochum has also been quite great when playing at home so far this season.

Although, their gap points in the standings also is not too far. I mean between the both teams Union Berlin with Bochum, but on the other side, I think the Union Berlin players might also be tired. Considering that previously, they make a hard game in the big match against Real Madrid, so I think maybe Union Belin performance in the next match will not be very optimal.

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December 14, 2023, 02:00:08 PM
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I think it is too early to know that Union Barley performance is back. They only won there first match, and the game that was won was at home, so I think they just try their best to avoid being beat at home. That is why they try all they can to score goals. However, I think we should wait and see some other games that they will play. If they are able to perform the same way, then we can say they are getting their performance back. Even in their upcoming match with Bochum, I can say their performance is back. If they do well, I want them to perform as they did in their last match, like 3 games from there.
Seems Union Berlin have return back to quit well performance in domestic league, after eliminating in Champion League they will focus how to defend their position in Bundesliga and out from relegated zone. Winning against Borussia Mönchengladbach last match become capital for Union Berlin focus upcoming match and try to get three points against VfL Bochum. Four matches later, Union Berlin will face team with potential to get three points against Bochum, FC Koln, SC Freiburg and Mainz before facing Bayern Munich with less possibility three points achievement.
The current position, Union Berlin is not far enough points away from the teams in mid-table positions and it would be an advantage for Union Berlin if it is able to appear consistent and get three points every match, it is possible to return to 8th position or even the Europe League spot position.

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December 14, 2023, 02:19:04 PM
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Union fell well below expectations this year. Personally, I was disappointed while watching them. While we think they can be better, they are in 15th place in the Bundesliga. They were eliminated from UCL. It's a very sad season but now it's time to start over. They should concentrate on the league again and start to rise.
Actually I wasn't expecting so much from union Berlin in the champions league because I know they don't have the much experience to have gone far enough in the champions league, the competition in the champions league is o much that they needed more than their regular performance and form to be able to contend well enough amongst other teams in the league to be able to still stay in the League.

Moreover Union Berlin was in a group where they had well experienced team in the champions league and also a several times winner of the champions league, so I wasn't expecting union Berlin to do any better than real Madrid or Napoli, as a matter of fact union Berlin is literally struggling in their domestic league so definitely the pressure at the UCL was such that they couldn't hand just in a short period of time we'll enough to get pass the group stage, I would have taught they would have a chance at the third place so they could still participate in the europa but then Braga turned out a better contender.

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