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July 23, 2025, 05:08:11 PM
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I said it before that Erik Ten Hag will soon show Leverkusen how he is coaching a team, just look at his first pre season game, very poor performance from all the players and the coach, Erik Ten Hag will soon spoil a solid squad that Xabi Alonso has built for Leverkusen, I know that Leverkusen sell some of their stars players and that will be some problem affecting the team but getting defeated by Flamengo under 20 boys is very shameful for a club like Leverkusen.

we are going to be waiting till then, because from what happened the last time, Manchester United is not really giving people the mindset of trusting him, and they are waiting for him to start the whole action, because from the action we are going to know whether is acually ready or can handle leverkuseen and leverkuseen have all he need the only thing that is he need to be ready since is the commanding in chief of the club that way anything that happens he will be the one to blame, so he need to prove people wrong.

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After the match some players want to leave the club because has it’s stance now Zhaka has decided to leave the team and other players are also thinking about that which means Erik Ten Hag will build another squad for Leverkusen next season, I don’t think Erik Ten Hag can coach a team like Leverkusen and with the way things are going Erik Ten Hag can get sacked after next season.

And i dot know why Zhaka wants to leave the club and for some time he has informed the management of him wanting to leave the club and ten hag will have to come up with a new strategy to his taste so everything boils down to how he wants everything to go and is when the season begins we are going to know. is performance will determine if they will sack him or not.

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July 23, 2025, 05:36:21 PM
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Erik Ten Hag took over a team that finished first and second. While he did lose some players, the return has to be at least decent enough that it makes sense. I can see them not being title winners, even Leverkusen with Xabi didn't win last year, that's fine.

I can even see failing to not be second place, they lost Wirtz, a great player, so I can see that. But not being top 4? That is not acceptable, and they need to finish at least fourth place to say that they did alright. The further away you get from that, you are going to end up with bunch of terrible results. So the best version for this team would be that, and if they are like 11th or something by winter, he should be sacked and someone more decent should take over the job.

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July 23, 2025, 05:41:15 PM
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Leverkusen will never make the same mistake that Manchester United made and as far as I can tell they are secretly looking for another capable manager after giving Ten Hag the reins of the club and if they can convince a capable manager to come to their club then I think they will remove Ten Hag from the club. It is true that how Leverkusen is planning can be seen from a few matches at the beginning of the season and if ten Hag is planning the team wrongly from the beginning of the season then the management will definitely take action against him and sack him. Most of those who follow the German league are of the opinion that Leverkusen will do badly under Ten Hag but will not do well.

If you think Bayer Leverkusen management are still looking for another manager underground, that means they don’t even believe in their decision and Ten Hag, whom they brought in to manage the squad, is useless, or they want to test his capacity, whether he can do it or not. They don’t believe in him that much before getting him as their manager.

However, obviously Ten Hag is an experienced manager, but I’m surprised you said they may be looking for another manager secretly. Those who think so believe Ten Hag doesn’t have the capability to manage the club? But they just want to see whether he can do it or not. However, I don’t doubt Ten Hag managing Bayer Leverkusen.

I feel like Bayer Leverkusen are not as tough as Manchester United, or should I say they are not participating in some league that Manchester United were performing in even though Ten Hag was not able to deliver the expected result at Manchester United. I don’t think managing Bayer Leverkusen will be a big deal for him.

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July 23, 2025, 05:44:22 PM
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The season hasn't started yet and he may have started making statements to the press early. I hope it's not the same as when he was at Manchester United, where he started with losses in friendlies and then came his interviews in which he complained about players and the relationship with the players became terrible, then he made terrible signings.

Now at Leverkusen, he already had a defeat in which he conceded 5 goals in the friendly match. In 5 days, he will have another friendly match against Bochum, who were recently relegated from the Bundesliga. If he loses, it will be terrible for him.
Getting flogged by Flamengo U21 a few days ago was just a prelude of what is to come. Xhaka knows Leverkusen is finished with ETH at the club, and that's why he wants out before it's too late. Another thing is that he's not fighting to move to a bigger club, as most players would do. He's fighting to go to Sunderland, which Leverkusen is obviously bigger than. That tells me he's desperate about leaving and does not want to stick around when the ship starts sinking.

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July 23, 2025, 06:17:52 PM
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Getting flogged by Flamengo U21 a few days ago was just a prelude of what is to come. Xhaka knows Leverkusen is finished with ETH at the club, and that's why he wants out before it's too late. Another thing is that he's not fighting to move to a bigger club, as most players would do. He's fighting to go to Sunderland, which Leverkusen is obviously bigger than. That tells me he's desperate about leaving and does not want to stick around when the ship starts sinking.

Since announcing Erik Ten Hag as headcoach, we've seen quite alot happening and I must confess, there's very sign of weakness for Bayer Leverkusen. On a second thought, Defeats is not a bad thing rather its seen as one a little bit of setback inother to boost the morale of the team to bounce back. Bayer Leverkusen doesn't seem ready for this current season based on their current form. Who's Flamengo that Leverkusen would lose to? Common brother even though it's a friendly clash, I don't expect such huge goal margin coming from Flamengo. However let's be positive and trust the new administration of Erik Ten Hag.

 
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July 23, 2025, 06:21:39 PM
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To be honest , Erik Ten Hag will be facing alot of more pressure now as he got in the last years and even in Manchester United for sure.


That's for sure, that's the way things are, but this is where ETH has to prove that he was the best choice for Leverkusen, for me the fans are already used to good results, he has to live up to it, otherwise it will be a very bad thing for him if he can't live up to the expectations, he is really strong , I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

The opening match, against Flamengo's U-20 team in a friendly, with a surprising result, will certainly increase the pressure on Ten Hag for next season. Ten Hag must immediately change and evaluate his current strategy. If his performance doesn't improve, this will only increase the pressure on him, which could ultimately lead to a similar situation to when he coached Manchester United.

Ten Hag shouldn't be under as much pressure as he was when he coached Leverkusen, as it was different from when he coached Manchester United, which was full of pressure from all sides. However, Ten Hag's mistake in his first match will certainly be a bad start, and put him under pressure at Leverkusen now.

If Ten Hag wants to prove that Leverkusen made the right decision in hiring him, he must immediately evaluate the team so that he can improve. If he continues to experience negative results, I think his position as Leverkusen coach will worsen.

I also think Bayern Munich will easily defend their Bundesliga title this season, as so far I haven't seen any serious challengers. Leverkusen will certainly face difficult times under Ten Hag, and I don't think Dortmund will be strong enough to match Bayern Munich's strength next season.

 
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July 23, 2025, 06:54:15 PM
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Getting flogged by Flamengo U21 a few days ago was just a prelude of what is to come. Xhaka knows Leverkusen is finished with ETH at the club, and that's why he wants out before it's too late. Another thing is that he's not fighting to move to a bigger club, as most players would do. He's fighting to go to Sunderland, which Leverkusen is obviously bigger than. That tells me he's desperate about leaving and does not want to stick around when the ship starts sinking.


It was a pre-season match, and it's where we see a lot of surprise results. So, Flamengo U21 defeating Leverkusen is not a surprise result to me because I have seen many matches like that before. I know that Ten Hag is not the best coach, but he's also not that bad. All I want to see is the result as the season begins, and from there, I can judge. Maybe he can handle Leverkusen properly, or maybe not.In fact, with Leverkusen’s current squad, I don’t even expect much from Ten Hag because I believe that even Xabi Alonso, if he were still there, would struggle. If he doesn’t add quality players to strengthen the team, it will be hard to win the Bundesliga with the current squad.

Another thing that might prevent Ten Hag from being successful at Leverkusen is that he may not get the opportunity to sign quality players to help strengthen the team, as top class players may not be willing to play under him. Just look at what's happening now Xhaka, who is important to Leverkusen, wants to leave. Even Ten Hag knows how crucial Xhaka is to the team. If Xhaka leaves Leverkusen, it will be hard for Ten Hag to find a replacement. But let's see what happens next season.
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July 23, 2025, 07:19:53 PM
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Since announcing Erik Ten Hag as headcoach, we've seen quite alot happening and I must confess, there's very sign of weakness for Bayer Leverkusen. On a second thought, Defeats is not a bad thing rather its seen as one a little bit of setback inother to boost the morale of the team to bounce back. Bayer Leverkusen doesn't seem ready for this current season based on their current form. Who's Flamengo that Leverkusen would lose to? Common brother even though it's a friendly clash, I don't expect such huge goal margin coming from Flamengo. However let's be positive and trust the new administration of Erik Ten Hag.

Leverkusen conceded 5 goals against a small team like Flamengo U20. We have not seen Leverkusen lose by such a big margin in the last 2 seasons. Many people  will say that this is a friendly match, this match is not important , yes undeniable , it is not an important match. So Leverkusen will concede 5 goals against e small team? This is a shameful defeat for Leverkusen.  I do not like Ten Hag at all as a coach. I have seen him turn Manchester United into a ruin. It is foolish to expect that Leverkusen will do anything good next season with Ten Hag.

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Getting flogged by Flamengo U21 a few days ago was just a prelude of what is to come. Xhaka knows Leverkusen is finished with ETH at the club, and that's why he wants out before it's too late. Another thing is that he's not fighting to move to a bigger club, as most players would do. He's fighting to go to Sunderland, which Leverkusen is obviously bigger than. That tells me he's desperate about leaving and does not want to stick around when the ship starts sinking.

Loi, it's now I'm getting to know of this about Xhaka wanting to bail out from Leverkusen. I have always thought about this, and wondered how and why Leverkusen lost to some kids by that kind of disgraceful margin. For me, I still think Ten Hang isn't the right man for Bayern Leverkusen, his supposed to be coaching some team from Romania, Estonia or maybe back to the Netherlands and not a top European club team. Even his statement after the defeat against Flamengo U20 boys was also disgraceful.

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The season hasn't started yet and he may have started making statements to the press early. I hope it's not the same as when he was at Manchester United, where he started with losses in friendlies and then came his interviews in which he complained about players and the relationship with the players became terrible, then he made terrible signings.

Now at Leverkusen, he already had a defeat in which he conceded 5 goals in the friendly match. In 5 days, he will have another friendly match against Bochum, who were recently relegated from the Bundesliga. If he loses, it will be terrible for him.
Getting flogged by Flamengo U21 a few days ago was just a prelude of what is to come. Xhaka knows Leverkusen is finished with ETH at the club, and that's why he wants out before it's too late. Another thing is that he's not fighting to move to a bigger club, as most players would do. He's fighting to go to Sunderland, which Leverkusen is obviously bigger than. That tells me he's desperate about leaving and does not want to stick around when the ship starts sinking.


Bayer Leverkusen can still surprise everyone when the league begins their loss against Flamengo U21 should not be a criteria for fans to discredit ETH or see his team like hey are not going to do well next season. Xhaka has made his intentions know but from the look of things he is not making the right choice because leaving a bigger team with a better offer to join a small team doesn't show that he is a good player he's just looking for a team to play. Leverkusen will not sink next season nobody should be scared Ten Hag will do his magic people should believe in him.

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July 23, 2025, 07:52:24 PM
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The season hasn't started yet and he may have started making statements to the press early. I hope it's not the same as when he was at Manchester United, where he started with losses in friendlies and then came his interviews in which he complained about players and the relationship with the players became terrible, then he made terrible signings.

Now at Leverkusen, he already had a defeat in which he conceded 5 goals in the friendly match. In 5 days, he will have another friendly match against Bochum, who were recently relegated from the Bundesliga. If he loses, it will be terrible for him.

Bayern Leverkusen have a task to accomplish in the coming season and when they play in the friendlies and they don’t get to win matches, it becomes very hard for their fans to have trust in them that they’re going to do well next season. They’ve lost woefully in their first preseason game under Eric Ten Hag’s management, I don’t hope they lose another one again because it’ll only make everyone look less of him and not trust him to handle the affairs of the team going forward. Friendly may not be enough to judge a coach on how he’s going to perform when the season begins, but it’ll surely show the direction we should expect from him and limit some kind of expectations from him when the season begins.

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The season hasn't started yet and he may have started making statements to the press early. I hope it's not the same as when he was at Manchester United, where he started with losses in friendlies and then came his interviews in which he complained about players and the relationship with the players became terrible, then he made terrible signings.

Now at Leverkusen, he already had a defeat in which he conceded 5 goals in the friendly match. In 5 days, he will have another friendly match against Bochum, who were recently relegated from the Bundesliga. If he loses, it will be terrible for him.
Getting flogged by Flamengo U21 a few days ago was just a prelude of what is to come. Xhaka knows Leverkusen is finished with ETH at the club, and that's why he wants out before it's too late. Another thing is that he's not fighting to move to a bigger club, as most players would do. He's fighting to go to Sunderland, which Leverkusen is obviously bigger than. That tells me he's desperate about leaving and does not want to stick around when the ship starts sinking.


If the team's situation is as you describe, resolving these issues may take time. The team has been performing well in recent seasons, and this structure needs to continue. The new manager needs to contribute to the team and improve their performance. Achieving these goals isn't easy, but the fans and management expect it.

I believe they will not allow a repeat of what happened at Manchester United and will take action. The manager needs to address these issues urgently. It's too early to criticize the manager. We need to see how the season starts. It's clear the team isn't ready yet, but they can perform well at the start of the season.

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Getting flogged by Flamengo U21 a few days ago was just a prelude of what is to come. Xhaka knows Leverkusen is finished with ETH at the club, and that's why he wants out before it's too late. Another thing is that he's not fighting to move to a bigger club, as most players would do. He's fighting to go to Sunderland, which Leverkusen is obviously bigger than. That tells me he's desperate about leaving and does not want to stick around when the ship starts sinking.

Since announcing Erik Ten Hag as headcoach, we've seen quite alot happening and I must confess, there's very sign of weakness for Bayer Leverkusen. On a second thought, Defeats is not a bad thing rather its seen as one a little bit of setback inother to boost the morale of the team to bounce back. Bayer Leverkusen doesn't seem ready for this current season based on their current form. Who's Flamengo that Leverkusen would lose to? Common brother even though it's a friendly clash, I don't expect such huge goal margin coming from Flamengo. However let's be positive and trust the new administration of Erik Ten Hag.
Yeah it's has not been going well for them despite just being the pre season their performance seem to be falling off. The team was doing just well before his arrival and I don't expect them to be this bad already by just losing a coach and a few players.
Being a first division team in the Europe top 5 league I don't expect them to lose to an U21 side of any team. Even the senior team of Flamengo is not supposed to win against Leverkusen. I don't even understand why they would play against the U21 and not the senior team itself. It's a shame to Leverkusen, Ten Hag should do everything possible to get things back in order else people will start questioning his management and soon he will be under pressure again.

 
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Leverkusen conceded 5 goals against a small team like Flamengo U20. We have not seen Leverkusen lose by such a big margin in the last 2 seasons. Many people  will say that this is a friendly match, this match is not important , yes undeniable , it is not an important match. So Leverkusen will concede 5 goals against e small team? This is a shameful defeat for Leverkusen.  I do not like Ten Hag at all as a coach. I have seen him turn Manchester United into a ruin. It is foolish to expect that Leverkusen will do anything good next season with Ten Hag.
The only excuse Erik Ten Hag would give for this disgraceful loss is that it was a friendly match and nothing is at stake.  He can also claim that he was experimenting with players since he made several changes. The weather was also very hot which was an advantage to the home side.

But critics and other football analysts are pushing that Bayer Leverkusen shouldn't have lost to an Under 20 team of a South American club. There was no excuse for that large margin win. There were high hopes that Ten Hag would give Vincent Kompany the needed competition in the Bundesliga. But this loss might have reduced people's expectations.

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The season hasn't started yet and he may have started making statements to the press early. I hope it's not the same as when he was at Manchester United, where he started with losses in friendlies and then came his interviews in which he complained about players and the relationship with the players became terrible, then he made terrible signings.

Now at Leverkusen, he already had a defeat in which he conceded 5 goals in the friendly match. In 5 days, he will have another friendly match against Bochum, who were recently relegated from the Bundesliga. If he loses, it will be terrible for him.
Getting flogged by Flamengo U21 a few days ago was just a prelude of what is to come. Xhaka knows Leverkusen is finished with ETH at the club, and that's why he wants out before it's too late. Another thing is that he's not fighting to move to a bigger club, as most players would do. He's fighting to go to Sunderland, which Leverkusen is obviously bigger than. That tells me he's desperate about leaving and does not want to stick around when the ship starts sinking.


Bayer Leverkusen can still surprise everyone when the league begins their loss against Flamengo U21 should not be a criteria for fans to discredit ETH or see his team like hey are not going to do well next season. Xhaka has made his intentions know but from the look of things he is not making the right choice because leaving a bigger team with a better offer to join a small team doesn't show that he is a good player he's just looking for a team to play. Leverkusen will not sink next season nobody should be scared Ten Hag will do his magic people should believe in him.

We all know it is too early to judge Erik ten Hag’s performance at Bayer Leverkusen, but still, I don’t want us to forget his performance at Manchester United, which is the same thing that I am afraid of happening at Bayer Leverkusen. We all know how it started, and we kept giving him more time to see if there would be changes, but it just kept getting worse than before. Although I won’t compare the pressure in both leagues, because it’s different, I still don’t have much hope in Erik to do better.

Furthermore, talking about Xhaka leaving Bayer Leverkusen for Sunderland, it is because he wants to join the Premier League, which, to me, is a nice decision. This will be more challenging for him, and it will make him better than staying in the Bundesliga.

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July 23, 2025, 08:21:29 PM
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We all know it is too early to judge Erik ten Hag’s performance at Bayer Leverkusen, but still, I don’t want us to forget his performance at Manchester United, which is the same thing that I am afraid of happening at Bayer Leverkusen. We all know how it started, and we kept giving him more time to see if there would be changes, but it just kept getting worse than before. Although I won’t compare the pressure in both leagues, because it’s different, I still don’t have much hope in Erik to do better.

This is the major point. We still can not  forget Manchester United's performance. Day by day we have seen a squad destroyed because of Ten Hag. Ten Hag has wasted a lot of money. He has bought all the players who paid huge transfer fees and they have not played well in  a single match in Manchester United's jersey. And that is why no one can trust Ten Hag.

I don't know why the management at Leverkusen has made Ten Hag the manager. Can't they find someone more experienced? Leverkusen performed atrociously against Flamengo. I have serious doubts whether Leverkusen will be in the top 4 of the table next season.

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July 23, 2025, 08:21:42 PM
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To be honest , Erik Ten Hag will be facing alot of more pressure now as he got in the last years and even in
Since Erik Ten Hag blames Manchester United for his poor performance when he was Manchester United head coach, I believe he will face a lot of pressure at Bayer Leverkusen because he will want to win his matches and prove to the world that he isn't a bad coach and also not the problem at Manchester United. If Erik Ten Hag fails to perform well at Bayer Leverkusen, he will be filled with shame, and people will know he was the problem why Manchester United was performing poorly when he was the head coach of Manchester United.

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July 23, 2025, 08:33:37 PM
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The season hasn't started yet and he may have started making statements to the press early. I hope it's not the same as when he was at Manchester United, where he started with losses in friendlies and then came his interviews in which he complained about players and the relationship with the players became terrible, then he made terrible signings.

Now at Leverkusen, he already had a defeat in which he conceded 5 goals in the friendly match. In 5 days, he will have another friendly match against Bochum, who were recently relegated from the Bundesliga. If he loses, it will be terrible for him.
Getting flogged by Flamengo U21 a few days ago was just a prelude of what is to come. Xhaka knows Leverkusen is finished with ETH at the club, and that's why he wants out before it's too late. Another thing is that he's not fighting to move to a bigger club, as most players would do. He's fighting to go to Sunderland, which Leverkusen is obviously bigger than. That tells me he's desperate about leaving and does not want to stick around when the ship starts sinking.

I have been saying this that Eric is not a good manager right from he's time at Manchester United but no one believes me, Manny were saying he needed time while some were saying Manchester United doesn't have the kind of players needed and he went on to kill the team poisoned the mind of players, disrespect players saying he don't take nonsense from players while he was the nonsense, now I'm being vindicated now he's joined Bayern Leverkusen, Eric was just fortunate in his time at Ajax, he doesn't have coaching sense rather ego and pride towards players, imagine a player like cr7 and David de gea he let them all down and brought in onana and hojlund, two Manchester United biggest mistakes.

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July 23, 2025, 08:41:20 PM
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We all know it is too early to judge Erik ten Hag’s performance at Bayer Leverkusen, but still, I don’t want us to forget his performance at Manchester United, which is the same thing that I am afraid of happening at Bayer Leverkusen. We all know how it started, and we kept giving him more time to see if there would be changes, but it just kept getting worse than before. Although I won’t compare the pressure in both leagues, because it’s different, I still don’t have much hope in Erik to do better.

This is the major point. We still can not  forget Manchester United's performance. Day by day we have seen a squad destroyed because of Ten Hag. Ten Hag has wasted a lot of money. He has bought all the players who paid huge transfer fees and they have not played well in  a single match in Manchester United's jersey. And that is why no one can trust Ten Hag.

I don't know why the management at Leverkusen has made Ten Hag the manager. Can't they find someone more experienced? Leverkusen performed atrociously against Flamengo. I have serious doubts whether Leverkusen will be in the top 4 of the table next season.

That is the same thing I am afraid of, them not being in the top four this season. If we are to compare how Erik ten Hag destroyed Manchester United’s performance, then all the effort that Xabi Alonso put into Bayer Leverkusen will be in vain. There is no hope that Erik will do something better. If you lose your first game with a new team as a coach in the pre-season, then what will you do when the season starts? Although the management has given him a chance, we will see what he will do. But I don’t think he will finish this season as Bayer Leverkusen’s coach.

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July 23, 2025, 08:51:14 PM
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The season hasn't started yet and he may have started making statements to the press early. I hope it's not the same as when he was at Manchester United, where he started with losses in friendlies and then came his interviews in which he complained about players and the relationship with the players became terrible, then he made terrible signings.

Now at Leverkusen, he already had a defeat in which he conceded 5 goals in the friendly match. In 5 days, he will have another friendly match against Bochum, who were recently relegated from the Bundesliga. If he loses, it will be terrible for him.
Getting flogged by Flamengo U21 a few days ago was just a prelude of what is to come. Xhaka knows Leverkusen is finished with ETH at the club, and that's why he wants out before it's too late. Another thing is that he's not fighting to move to a bigger club, as most players would do. He's fighting to go to Sunderland, which Leverkusen is obviously bigger than. That tells me he's desperate about leaving and does not want to stick around when the ship starts sinking.

He appears to have completed his goals with Leverkusen, and it's not easy to earn a Premier League transfer at his age. Having achieved this, he wants the transfer to happen as soon as possible. At 32, he has the chance to compete in the Premier League. Sunderland seems like an opportunity for him, but perhaps Bayer Leverkusen will be a serious title contender this year, just like in previous years. In that case, he might regret leaving the club.

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