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June 12, 2025, 07:47:45 PM
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Changes in management and the departure of several key players will certainly affect Leverkusen chances of winning the trophy again. Bayern Munich dominance will remain difficult to break, because Kompany has a better squad depth than all his competitors. Xabi Alonso's legacy squad is quite good, but Ten Hag certainly still has to polish it to suit his preferences.

Exactly, I said this before if Bayer Leverkusen change their manager and their key players they will not dominate the Bundesliga competition next season because it will be very hard for them to do,  infact they will not even do that because the new manager will come up with his own style of play and the new players must take their time to understand each other and get blended to other players before they can be productive and enjoy their season, every manager that comes in normally polish to make the team look the way they want it to be. And this will take the players a while to understand everything.

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In my opinion, to break Bayern Munich dominance in the Bundesliga, several teams must experience an increase in performance simultaneously, thus putting a lot of pressure on Kompany team. However, in the near future, this may not happen, because even Dortmund, who are considered the strongest rivals in the Bundesliga, have had difficulties in the last few seasons.

Mind you there is no any team that can challenge Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga currently, Bayern Munich are currently in their best form in the Bundesliga, for the fact that even Bayer Leverkusen and Dortmund find it difficult to compete with Bayern Munich this season make me believe that even in the coming season Bayern Munich will still be strong and continue to be the best club in the Bundesliga competition.

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June 12, 2025, 08:41:29 PM
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For Sane, Arsenal would have made more sense, wonder why he didn't picked that team. That is a team that could possibly win premier league, so either Arsenal offered a very tiny amount of money, or they were just not interested in getting him "that" much like rumoured. Going to Galatasraay over Arsenal makes no sense at all, it feels as if we are seeing something that is very difficult to choice for him but it also looks like he is doing whatever he can to stay relevant.

Some players just got o Saudi and make a big bank, they take that bag and leave after few years and retire. Sane could have done that, at least 25+ million a year, as high as possibly 40+ million a year. He declined, and stayed at UCL level, next season he will be at UCL. However, Arsenal deal still doesn't make sense, he would have been great there.
I also think going to Arsenal would have been a better choice than joining Galatasaray as he would still be seen around in major competitions but coming to think of it I think this is not the kind of player Arsenal need right now, his recent performance was not impressive and also Arsenal already has Saka playing from the right wing so bringing Sane will just be surplus as he is a player good enough not to sit on the bench.

It could be as you said, maybe Arsenal didn't offer as much money as Galatasaray did or maybe he just chose Galatasaray for some reasons known to him but in real sense Arsenal would have been better. I believe Saudi league would have been more beneficial for him and with his career nearing ending days he definitely needs to stack up more money like other players. The Saudi league is not that bad anymore they are now more competitive than before.

 
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June 12, 2025, 08:44:09 PM
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Exactly, I said this before if Bayer Leverkusen change their manager and their key players they will not dominate the Bundesliga competition next season because it will be very hard for them to do,  infact they will not even do that because the new manager will come up with his own style of play and the new players must take their time to understand each other and get blended to other players before they can be productive and enjoy their season, every manager that comes in normally polish to make the team look the way they want it to be. And this will take the players a while to understand everything.
Your on the points Change the manage and the keys players can really affects Leverkusen performance next season competition in the Bundesliga. Because with the way they struggle this season and later finish up in the 2nd place in the table they should not even try that method change some of their keys players, if not next season will not favor at all. Normal the manager system will be different from the previous one; and the new manager come with with his own experience there’s know way the player can comprehend each other they will be so much confusion between them.

Mind you there is no any team that can challenge Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga currently, Bayern Munich are currently in their best form in the Bundesliga, for the fact that even Bayer Leverkusen and Dortmund find it difficult to compete with Bayern Munich this season make me believe that even in the coming season Bayern Munich will still be strong and continue to be the best club in the Bundesliga competition.
Points of correction Op. Bayern Munich are in good form throughout this season not mean that their no a team can challenge them, is just that Leverkusen performances was salient this season if not who is Bayern Munich they even compare them with Leverkusen; and the facts is that even Dortmund are enough to compete with Bayern is because they have the best form this season and dominate the league this season that’s what given you hope next season, do you forget that winning a league is temporary it can turn around to the other team.

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June 12, 2025, 09:52:50 PM
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Xabi Alonso did well before the last season, the difference can't even be compared, so he can't be so missed by Leverkusen and the rivalry will continue even more fiercely than before. Kompany is a great coach with a good squad at the moment, notwithstanding, with the experience of Erik ten Hag and his hunger for winning after the disgraceful departure from Man U, he might want to impress. So he will give his best, and I expect a more competitive Bundesliga season, which will not reduce the current status of Leverkusen, but increase the chase for the top spot.
That's an interesting point of view. There is a serious argument to be made regarding a coach's need to prove himself. Ten Hag was a failure at United, but he constructed a team at Ajax that could compete with the best in Europe. A club may surprise people when everyone believes they are ready to fall apart. sure, it's hard to take when Alonso leaves, and sure, losing top players hurts

Bayern is the favorite for a reason: they are rock solid, know when to strike, and are always ready to steal the finest players. But it's not a secret. We might see something unexpected if Ten Hag can get the young players to play well and Leverkusen stays confident. And even if they do drop this year, maybe that's just the way things are going to go for Leverkusen to bounce back soon. The Bundesliga has seen wilder swings. Do you remember Dortmund after Klopp? Football doesn't care what others think should happen

 
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That's an interesting point of view. There is a serious argument to be made regarding a coach's need to prove himself. Ten Hag was a failure at United, but he constructed a team at Ajax that could compete with the best in Europe. A club may surprise people when everyone believes they are ready to fall apart. sure, it's hard to take when Alonso leaves, and sure, losing top players hurts
Yes, Ten Hag was a good coach when he was at Ajax, and his image has been very bad since he was at Man United. So in Leverkusen this time, ETH must be able to rebuild his good image, optimize his ability to really be able to bring Leverkusen to its best performance again, continue Xabi's steps which have indeed been well-established in Leverkusen

Now is Ten Hag's turn in Leverkusen. And we will see the tactics sand plans to be done and arranged by him.
And one of Ten Hag's wishes is to be able to sign this West Ham defender.

Source: Bayer Leverkusen's new manager Erik Ten Hag has told the club to sign Nayef Aguerd.

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June 13, 2025, 01:06:47 AM
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Yeah you're actually right he dominated the eredivisie league with ajax and some pretty good players and secondly has no match in that league, but failed in Manchester United because the competition and expectations of the club and fans were high, the pressure was too much on him from some hungry man United fans that haven't won the league for years now, and that makes him look inexperience, okay let's watch what he's gonna do in Bayer Leverkusen if he is that good like you said, because the pressure will be less there and some quality players are there too, but we've got some tough teams there too, just hope he shows workings as a good coach you said.
I think that ETH is a coach who, at least to me, doesn't have much going for him nor does he seem good to me, but I think that the times he has lived through have taught him to have a focus and vision of football that is now being managed. Now he is in charge of a team that, if it is successful, should maintain that level or raise it even more, as his predecessor did. If he is not at that level, I think he should not continue, but you always have to give people a good opportunity.

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June 13, 2025, 01:52:36 AM
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I think that ETH is a coach who, at least to me, doesn't have much going for him nor does he seem good to me, but I think that the times he has lived through have taught him to have a focus and vision of football that is now being managed. Now he is in charge of a team that, if it is successful, should maintain that level or raise it even more, as his predecessor did. If he is not at that level, I think he should not continue, but you always have to give people a good opportunity.
He is not as good as the previous coach but if given the push and good players then there is hope that Leverkusen under his coaching can be better even though it will take time to perfect the team. At Manchester United he experimented too much and always put some players in the wrong positions so that what happened was beyond expectations. For now what needs to be done is how to make some players understand Ten Hag's strategy and need to make some adjustments. At least being able to compete in the top three is enough and slowly they can develop a strategy to compete with Bayern Munich in the fight for the Bundesliga title next season.

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June 13, 2025, 04:46:36 AM
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I think that ETH is a coach who, at least to me, doesn't have much going for him nor does he seem good to me, but I think that the times he has lived through have taught him to have a focus and vision of football that is now being managed. Now he is in charge of a team that, if it is successful, should maintain that level or raise it even more, as his predecessor did. If he is not at that level, I think he should not continue, but you always have to give people a good opportunity.

I like the way he coaches because Erik has a lot of strategies in building a squad, but in handling Leverkusen I think Erik ten Hag has a lot of pressure because Leverkusen is no longer a mid-table team so the championship title is highly expected under Erik's leadership.

 Leverkusen also has a busy schedule where Erik is expected to bring impressive achievements under his coaching in the 3 competitions. However, in the Bundesliga I think Bayern Munich is still highly favored to become champions, especially since they are much stronger than Leverkusen.
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June 13, 2025, 04:57:31 AM
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I like the way he coaches because Erik has a lot of strategies in building a squad, but in handling Leverkusen I think Erik ten Hag has a lot of pressure because Leverkusen is no longer a mid-table team so the championship title is highly expected under Erik's leadership.

 Leverkusen also has a busy schedule where Erik is expected to bring impressive achievements under his coaching in the 3 competitions. However, in the Bundesliga I think Bayern Munich is still highly favored to become champions, especially since they are much stronger than Leverkusen.

Ten Hag was very confident with Manchester United too. He was happy with his achievements. But we did not see much change in Manchester United's overall performance. Manchester United's performance was weak as usual.

Ten Hag is also very confident with Leverkusen. And it is expected that Leverkusen will play well in all three competitions with the help of Ten Hag. I do not expect that at all. Leverkusen will not be able to win a single title. First of all, I do not trust Ten Hag. Secondly, Leverkusen's squad is gradually weakening. Because Leverkusen management is going to sell several players in the squad. So I doubt whether Leverkusen's performance will be stable next season, winning the title is a long way off.

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June 13, 2025, 08:07:02 AM
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I think that ETH is a coach who, at least to me, doesn't have much going for him nor does he seem good to me, but I think that the times he has lived through have taught him to have a focus and vision of football that is now being managed. Now he is in charge of a team that, if it is successful, should maintain that level or raise it even more, as his predecessor did. If he is not at that level, I think he should not continue, but you always have to give people a good opportunity.
He is not as good as the previous coach but if given the push and good players then there is hope that Leverkusen under his coaching can be better even though it will take time to perfect the team. At Manchester United he experimented too much and always put some players in the wrong positions so that what happened was beyond expectations. For now what needs to be done is how to make some players understand Ten Hag's strategy and need to make some adjustments. At least being able to compete in the top three is enough and slowly they can develop a strategy to compete with Bayern Munich in the fight for the Bundesliga title next season.
Bayer Leverkusen will be the team that receives the most attention this year in the German league. Because their technical director went to Real Madrid and they brought the unsuccessful former technical director of Manchester United to the team. According to many people, the biggest reason why Manchester United is in this position today is Ten Hag and his wrong transfer policies. We also saw that he was playing some players in the wrong positions. I still do not understand how Bayer Leverkusen believed in him and brought him to the team. After the beginning of the year, the continuation of his career will probably be determined according to Leverkusen's situation.

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I like the way he coaches because Erik has a lot of strategies in building a squad, but in handling Leverkusen I think Erik ten Hag has a lot of pressure because Leverkusen is no longer a mid-table team so the championship title is highly expected under Erik's leadership.

 Leverkusen also has a busy schedule where Erik is expected to bring impressive achievements under his coaching in the 3 competitions. However, in the Bundesliga I think Bayern Munich is still highly favored to become champions, especially since they are much stronger than Leverkusen.

Ten Hag was very confident with Manchester United too. He was happy with his achievements. But we did not see much change in Manchester United's overall performance. Manchester United's performance was weak as usual.

Ten Hag is also very confident with Leverkusen. And it is expected that Leverkusen will play well in all three competitions with the help of Ten Hag. I do not expect that at all. Leverkusen will not be able to win a single title. First of all, I do not trust Ten Hag. Secondly, Leverkusen's squad is gradually weakening. Because Leverkusen management is going to sell several players in the squad. So I doubt whether Leverkusen's performance will be stable next season, winning the title is a long way off.
When at Manchester United, Erik Ten Hag had tried hard to improve the team's performance but he had problems because of conflicts between players which made it difficult for him to bring Manchester United to win the championship. But at Leverkusen I am sure he is able to continue the good performance left by Xabi Alonso, he only needs support from the fans and players in every match to win.

Of course Leverkusen wants to take advantage of the transfer market by selling their star players, but in this transfer market they are also busy recruiting other players to fill the gaps left by their old players. One of the players that Ten Hag wants to target is Grealish from Manchester City. In addition, Erik Ten Hag also wants to recruit Alejandro Garnacho from Manchester United, I think he really wants to change people's views on his doubts in handling Leverkusen.
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June 13, 2025, 09:44:17 AM
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I think that ETH is a coach who, at least to me, doesn't have much going for him nor does he seem good to me, but I think that the times he has lived through have taught him to have a focus and vision of football that is now being managed. Now he is in charge of a team that, if it is successful, should maintain that level or raise it even more, as his predecessor did. If he is not at that level, I think he should not continue, but you always have to give people a good opportunity.
He is not as good as the previous coach but if given the push and good players then there is hope that Leverkusen under his coaching can be better even though it will take time to perfect the team. At Manchester United he experimented too much and always put some players in the wrong positions so that what happened was beyond expectations. For now what needs to be done is how to make some players understand Ten Hag's strategy and need to make some adjustments. At least being able to compete in the top three is enough and slowly they can develop a strategy to compete with Bayern Munich in the fight for the Bundesliga title next season.
Bayer Leverkusen will be the team that receives the most attention this year in the German league. Because their technical director went to Real Madrid and they brought the unsuccessful former technical director of Manchester United to the team. According to many people, the biggest reason why Manchester United is in this position today is Ten Hag and his wrong transfer policies. We also saw that he was playing some players in the wrong positions. I still do not understand how Bayer Leverkusen believed in him and brought him to the team. After the beginning of the year, the continuation of his career will probably be determined according to Leverkusen's situation.
I might be wrong in this, but I don't think that Ten Hag will be able to maintain Leverkusen quality, talk more of improving their performance in order for them to be able to win the title. However, he might perform better than when he was in United because the pressure on Bundesliga is not as high as that of EPL. Let's watch out for Leverkusen next season. Fingers crossed.

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June 13, 2025, 09:53:31 AM
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Bayern is the favorite for a reason: they are rock solid, know when to strike, and are always ready to steal the finest players. But it's not a secret. We might see something unexpected if Ten Hag can get the young players to play well and Leverkusen stays confident. And even if they do drop this year, maybe that's just the way things are going to go for Leverkusen to bounce back soon. The Bundesliga has seen wilder swings.
Since the beginning of Kompany's first season with Bayern has paid off by reclaiming the Bundesliga trophy from Leverkusen which at that time was still in the hands of Xabi. Now he has gone to Madrid and the new Coach whose name we already know will be a challenge in managing Leverkusen. Because the Bundesliga next season brings Erik Ten Hag to a much more serious fight, like it or not his first season with Leverkusen must be able to secure a Champions League ticket.

 
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June 13, 2025, 10:01:12 AM
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Since the beginning of Kompany's first season with Bayern has paid off by reclaiming the Bundesliga trophy from Leverkusen which at that time was still in the hands of Xabi. Now he has gone to Madrid and the new Coach whose name we already know will be a challenge in managing Leverkusen. Because the Bundesliga next season brings Erik Ten Hag to a much more serious fight, like it or not his first season with Leverkusen must be able to secure a Champions League ticket.

I am sure that Bayern Munich will be the Bundesliga champions next season if they do not make any big mistakes or stumble. Dortmund and Leverkusen can be considered as Bayern Munich's main opponents. However, we have not seen good performances from these two teams this season.

Leverkusen's performance is likely to decline next season. Even qualifying for the Champions League will be difficult for the team. Leverkusen has lost their coach Xabi Alonso. The new coach Ten Hag is not very experienced or successful, so not much can be expected from this coach.

Dortmund's performance is erratic. It is impossible to predict how this team will perform before the start of the season. On the other hand, Leverkusen's squad is going to undergo major changes. Leverkusen is going to sell talented players like Wirtz at a high price.

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June 13, 2025, 12:20:09 PM
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I am sure that Bayern Munich will be the Bundesliga champions next season if they do not make any big mistakes or stumble.
Apart from the players that Bayern Munich have and have got in the past they should be getting every time the Champions of the German League.
For now you cant say that they will be not doing or making any mistakes , other teams are making there homeworks and getting better.
So for sure there will be next season some games where they are struggling to 100%.

Dortmund and Leverkusen can be considered as Bayern Munich's main opponents. However, we have not seen good performances from these two teams this season.
Dont know what you are have seen , but specially Dortmund showed some improvements the last weeks of the season.
And not every game that was played from Munich was good , and i guess that the next season will be more close as it was the last one.
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Yes, Ten Hag was a good coach when he was at Ajax, and his image has been very bad since he was at Man United. So in Leverkusen this time, ETH must be able to rebuild his good image, optimize his ability to really be able to bring Leverkusen to its best performance again, continue Xabi's steps which have indeed been well-established in Leverkusen

Now is Ten Hag's turn in Leverkusen. And we will see the tactics sand plans to be done and arranged by him.
And one of Ten Hag's wishes is to be able to sign this West Ham defender.

Source: Bayer Leverkusen's new manager Erik Ten Hag has told the club to sign Nayef Aguerd.
It is absolutely true that Ten Hag's image was completely destroyed when he was at Manchester United so I think maybe he is now trying to increase his status in that regard by taking charge of the German club. We all know that Florian Wirtz has already left Bayer Leverkusen football club, so the new boss of the team Erik ten Hag is currently looking for his replacement he preferred Justin Kluivert in that spot.
Only time will tell how much potential this Dutch player will have for the Bayer Leverkusen team but we can say that ETH have done a fantastic job by giving this player a chance. A few days ago everyone probably noticed that Justin Kluivert team the Netherlands achieved a great victory against Malta in the World Cup qualifiers but he did an unsatisfactory job against Malta in that match.

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June 13, 2025, 03:41:23 PM
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I think that ETH is a coach who, at least to me, doesn't have much going for him nor does he seem good to me, but I think that the times he has lived through have taught him to have a focus and vision of football that is now being managed. Now he is in charge of a team that, if it is successful, should maintain that level or raise it even more, as his predecessor did. If he is not at that level, I think he should not continue, but you always have to give people a good opportunity.
He is not as good as the previous coach but if given the push and good players then there is hope that Leverkusen under his coaching can be better even though it will take time to perfect the team. At Manchester United he experimented too much and always put some players in the wrong positions so that what happened was beyond expectations. For now what needs to be done is how to make some players understand Ten Hag's strategy and need to make some adjustments. At least being able to compete in the top three is enough and slowly they can develop a strategy to compete with Bayern Munich in the fight for the Bundesliga title next season.
In my opinion, Ten Hag's failure at Man United was not because he experimented too much, because for me every coach should be like that. It's just that at Man United there was a lot of extraordinary pressure that made Ten Hag not develop, Ten Hag's failure at Man United was not entirely Ten Hag's fault because we also can't deny that coaching Man United is not easy, a good coach will end badly if he coaches Man United now. There are many examples of great coaches who have coached Man United but ended tragically, and maybe the next coach will be Amorim.

Ten Hag is a coach who has a good philosophy in coaching football, this was seen when he coached Ajax. And this was also proven by Leverkusen confidently recruiting Ten Hag to replace Xabi Alanso, this proves that Ten Hag's potential actually exists, it's just that he needs to coach a team that doesn't have too much pressure and many internal problems. So I'm sure that for next season Leverkusen will remain consistent with Ten Hag, especially Ten Hag's plan to bring in several new players. Leverkusen must support and give Ten Hag confidence so that Ten Hag can give his best for Leverkusen.

 
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Yes, Ten Hag was a good coach when he was at Ajax, and his image has been very bad since he was at Man United. So in Leverkusen this time, ETH must be able to rebuild his good image, optimize his ability to really be able to bring Leverkusen to its best performance again, continue Xabi's steps which have indeed been well-established in Leverkusen
Eric Ten Hag is not a bad coach, he is a good coach with great tactical ability, his tactics only failed when he was managing Manchester United before he get sacked, he managed the team for two years and was able to win two trophies which average to one trophy per season and it is not bad for a coach to win titles each season.

Manchester United atmosphere wasn’t that good for him to prosper and some of the players they signed are also not capable of playing for the team, and because of that, he didn’t do well. But when he was coaching Ajax, he was a great manager and he had good reputation there.

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Now is Ten Hag's turn in Leverkusen. And we will see the tactics sand plans to be done and arranged by him.
And one of Ten Hag's wishes is to be able to sign this West Ham defender.

Source: Bayer Leverkusen's new manager Erik Ten Hag has told the club to sign Nayef Aguerd.
This is the time we will see how good Ten Hag will be at Leverkusen because the team’s management seems to cooperate with him to sign some players he will need to make the team great again because they sell some players, they need to rebuild the team to maintain their standard, and with Ten Hag, they can do better.

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https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1933209431627510249

Yeah Bayern Munich is really seriously interested in Nico Williams as you can see on the source above as well. There is a release clause of 58 million euros. However I don't see it too high honestly.

Because just think about it. He is one of the best young talents in the world.  Wink  I expect Bayern Munich to do their best to make the deal done. After Sane's departure this would be one of the best improvements for the attacking line.

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Yeah you're actually right he dominated the eredivisie league with ajax and some pretty good players and secondly has no match in that league, but failed in Manchester United because the competition and expectations of the club and fans were high, the pressure was too much on him from some hungry man United fans that haven't won the league for years now, and that makes him look inexperience, okay let's watch what he's gonna do in Bayer Leverkusen if he is that good like you said, because the pressure will be less there and some quality players are there too, but we've got some tough teams there too, just hope he shows workings as a good coach you said.
I think that ETH is a coach who, at least to me, doesn't have much going for him nor does he seem good to me, but I think that the times he has lived through have taught him to have a focus and vision of football that is now being managed. Now he is in charge of a team that, if it is successful, should maintain that level or raise it even more, as his predecessor did. If he is not at that level, I think he should not continue, but you always have to give people a good opportunity.

I think this is the exact time to correct the wrong impression some of the Manchester United fans had on him, like if he is that good this is his chance to prove it, because I believe at this point in time Leverkusen is still at their best with some quality players and not much pressure like that of Manchester United, that's the more reason I believe in klope former Liverpool coach, he prove himself to the world by moving a relegated team werder to the senior league bundesliga, and still fix up a struggling Liverpool, so if ETH is that good like self acclaimed then he should show working that we will make then know that it was Manchester all this while .

 
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