Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Velvet78]

There is still a month for the beginning of the new season. Good enough time to complete signings and get ready. I wonder how good Dortmund will be able to start. The players will have less time to rest because of the Club World Cup.

I doubt Erik ten Hag will be successful with Bayern Leverkusen after defeating in the pre-season match against Flamengo-U20 over 5-1, indeed as pre season match but the opponent teams as dominance by youth players how easily Leverkusen conceded until five goals.

It is too harsh to make an assumption about a whole season only depending on a friendly result. I don't agree with your opinion. Their lineup wasn't even full of main players. Like I said before, they had U19 players all over there.

When it comes to signings this summer, they are changing. A new system and new players. They lost some important names. But hopefully Erik ten Hag will manage to build a team of his preferences.

[mv1986]

I have heard that Bayern Munich is after the youngster Nick Woltemade (23). He is a SS mainly but can play as CF and AM as well. However there is a problem...

They made a huge offer like 55 million euros + 10% sell-on clause to Stuttgart. But it was still rejected.    His market value is 30 million euros. However it seems like they have an abnormal price tag in their mind.

Is he really worth that much you think? He had an average season the last time. He started to play in the main squad of German national team too. But I don't think he is worth a huge amount now.

 Stuttgart appear to be in a brawny position with Bayern's €50 million + extra €5 million bonus and 10% sellon bid rejected, and there are at present no personal talks underway. afaik Stuttgart are said to not even consider negotiations below €65-70 million, even I have read in a local news that they are asking for €100 million.

You know Oltemed has had an extraordinary season, I could see he netted 17 goals in 33 contests inclusive of being the top scorer at the U21 Euros, however his ongoing market value is still around €30-36 million. If you ask me I will say, Bayern's offer cast back the player's actual worth, although Stuttgart is struggling.

It is still a long way and a long time to go. Woltemade has had good moments at the tournament and he disappeared at times, that is why I think Bayern is hesitant to pay these monster amounts that Stuttgart is asking for. Understandably in my opinion because while I think Woltemade is a good player, I don't think he is that 100 million euros guy. They would have to let him play as a playmaker, the reason they are still after him is because they couldn't get Wirtz and Musiala suffered from a long-term injury. Bayern has to do something about it and Stuttgart knows it, and no other club would be willing or capable of paying that much money for him.

[$weetne$$]

Do not use the poor performance of Ten Hag in a friendly match to determine how performance in the league we understand that the Bayer Leverkusen team was not supposed to lose to a youth team with that number of goals but let's assume that Ten Hag didn't play the game with his full squad or he just tried to see the strength of his opponents so that he will know the right players to use next season so I believe he will do better when the league start knowing that all eyes will be on him to see what he can achieve with the team.

I agree that this was never supposed to be a match for judgment on the teams ability,  the team actually does have the capacity to do even better this was an obvious Warm up game and remember they had nothing at stake for such a game so it will make no sense for them to put in all the effort they would have put when they happen to be playing the actual league game into games such as this and risk injuries on their player, one thing I know about ten hag is that his tactical approaches are usually very different from what you may be expecting so this game cannot be a yardstick for judging him, he may have use this game to understand something about the team which he may have been looking out for since.

[knowngunman]

Yet another football fan judging Ten Hag due to his past Manchester United history, people need to understand that Ten Hag is definitely a good manager but no matter what he needs time to rebuild this Bayer Leverkusen team that has lost almost four key players with the likes of Jonathan Tah, Florian Wirtz and Jeremy Frimpong who were back bone of club last season are out and This will affect the imbalance of the club and the playing pattern which he needs to rebuild fast.

Seriously, it sounds disgusting seeing football fans making fun of this and judging the bald man just after his first game. For goodness sake, this man just arrived at Leverkusen and he's still getting use to the players available in the squad to know how he'll make use of them when new season begins. I perceive it as a pure hatred towards the man and wishing for his downfall in his new club. I don't know whether fans expect him to perform magic and transform the team overnight. It's unfortunate, the man already has a dent to his name from Manchester United experience and it'll be difficult to clean at the moment.

[TelolettOm]

......this Bayer Leverkusen team that has lost almost four key players with the likes of Jonathan Tah, Florian Wirtz and Jeremy Frimpong who were back bone of club last season are out and This will affect the imbalance of the club and the playing pattern which he needs to rebuild fast.

This is the key; losing them really makes things worse. Leverkusen, on the other hand, earned a lot of money from the sale of the player, but as a result, they now have to struggle. What we need to hope for next is how they can bring in players who are at least good enough to strengthen some of their lines.

As Ten Hag said, the last defeat shouldn't have happened, but everything can be a big lesson, and they will do better next time.

Now, we are having a new update on Bayern Munich.
After confirming that Luis Diaz is indeed likely to move from Liverpool, Bayern Munich will now submit a new proposal for the winger. And as an alternative, Bayern Munich will go for Malick Fofana from Lyon.

Source: Bayern new proposal for Luis Diaz expected soon

[Zaguru12]

This is the key; losing them really makes things worse. Leverkusen, on the other hand, earned a lot of money from the sale of the player, but as a result, they now have to struggle. What we need to hope for next is how they can bring in players who are at least good enough to strengthen some of their lines.

As Ten Hag said, the last defeat shouldn't have happened, but everything can be a big lesson, and they will do better next time.

Now, we are having a new update on Bayern Munich.
After confirming that Luis Diaz is indeed likely to move from Liverpool, Bayern Munich will now submit a new proposal for the winger. And as an alternative, Bayern Munich will go for Malick Fofana from Lyon.

Source: Bayern new proposal for Luis Diaz expected soon

This is exactly what I want many fans to see that this teams isn’t the same as the last season team and even Xabi Alonso might be needing some players in this team to actually make it work. Not to talk of Ten Hag that just came and hasn’t implemented his playing pattern. This games are just friendlies that are even been played by younger players who most of them won’t be seeing the first team next season.
Bayer Leverkusen seriously needs to go into the market and sign players because for them to challenge Bayern Munich they currently have a thin squad.


I see Bayern Munich are seriously looking at the possibility of signing Luiz Diaz, both parties will have to agree with terms because it is obvious that the move will be the best for both parties, Luiz Diaz has fallen out with Liverpool supporters and also his moved to Barcelona collapsed with Rashford the preferred option so this Bayern Munich is the best choice for him. Also Bayern much have already had Sane leave while Musiala is definitely looking to be out of the season with the injury sustained during club World Cup.

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I hope that Ten Hag gets it right this time, because if his decisions worsen the team performance, it's going to be a shame on him. Having players without backups will be a big challenge should incase, any of them is injured or drops form. Ten Hag can make the club proud of him, if he knows what he's doing. Leverkusen have suffered from poor performance before Xabi Alonso strengthen the club.

It seems the first-team players would tire more easily if a team like Leverkusen didn't have backup players, because every team needs backup players to fill in when key players are injured. So, Ten Hag should think carefully about this if he truly wants to improve Leverkusen, and the team will be very proud of him. But if Leverkusen's next season is worse than the previous two, Ten Hag will certainly face even more criticism from Leverkusen fans, and the team will also be unhappy with Ten Hag if Leverkusen's results are worse than last season.

[SmartCharpa]

Do not use the poor performance of Ten Hag in a friendly match to determine how performance in the league we understand that the Bayer Leverkusen team was not supposed to lose to a youth team with that number of goals but let's assume that Ten Hag didn't play the game with his full squad or he just tried to see the strength of his opponents so that he will know the right players to use next season so I believe he will do better when the league start knowing that all eyes will be on him to see what he can achieve with the team.

That's what we used to say when Ten Hag was still at Manchester United, despite signing players, Manchester United hardly won their preseason games under Ten Hag, and we normally claim that preseason games have no impact on the result of their league games. It was bad that they conceded such goals against a minor team, Ten Hag is not an experienced manager, and because it was only a preseason game, it should have served as a game where he learned about the players he will use the next season.

Furthermore, will it be until Leverkusen starts losing league games that we know Ten Hag tactics have never changed after he managed Manchester United? These are the games where the players will showcase their talents, and even if Bayer Leverkusen keeps the players Xabi Alonso used to win the league the previous two seasons, I'm confident they will still struggle to win their games under Ten Hag, but the season will start in a few weeks.

[Akbarkoe]

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Ten Hag coached Manchester United and when coaching Manchester United he lifted a trophy with them even though he didn't coach them well as Manchester United was down in the English premier league, we all know that English premier league is one of the most difficult league in the world, for me I will even say is the most difficult league in the world right now, so he may do well in this Germany League, one thing I have learnt when it comes to football is never to say a thing can't happen, Ten hag may surprise everyone next season.
Bayern Leverkusen has great players and all Ten Hag will do is to use this players very well and everything will go well, I believe he has an assistant coach there in Bayern Leverkusen and the assistant coach has been in the club for some time now so the coach will put Ten Hag through in some things.
No body believed PSG will win inter Milan and lift the champions League trophy and no body believed Chelsea will win PSG and lift the FIFA club world cup, so no one should judge Ten Hag now untill next season starts.

While I'm discussing things that haven't happened yet, this is just a prediction. I'm not being pretentious, and Leverkusen can't be compared to PSG or Chelsea. Speaking of PSG, they've been building their club for quite some time, from signing star players to bringing in a more experienced coach, before finally finding balance in their team last season and conquering Europe. The same thing happened to Chelsea. The previous season, Chelsea spent several large sums of money to strengthen their squad several times. Both teams deserved their achievements. Meanwhile, Leverkusen will start the new season with doubts, having sold several of their best players and brought in a rather controversial coach.

Erik Ten Hag's performances in the Netherlands propelled him to the Premier League thanks to his Ajax performances, but his team's performances in the Premier League, where the main competition lies, have been quite weak. Now he's moved to a team aiming for success in the Bundesliga, and I don't think he'll be successful there either. His next stop will likely be the Netherlands. He could return to the Netherlands and manage a team. Frankly, his chances of success in the challenging Bundesliga are quite low.

I agree with that. When he moved to Manchester United, he failed to adapt well to the Premier League, and even caused significant losses for the club. The Bundesliga isn't as competitive as the Premier League, but considering all aspects and the current situation at Leverkusen, his chances of shining in Germany are slim.

[$weetne$$]

Now, we are having a new update on Bayern Munich.
After confirming that Luis Diaz is indeed likely to move from Liverpool, Bayern Munich will now submit a new proposal for the winger. And as an alternative, Bayern Munich will go for Malick Fofana from Lyon.

Source: Bayern new proposal for Luis Diaz expected soon

Moving from a top team in EPL to another top team in the German Bundesliga will not be a bad move for Diaz, he has been exceptional in Liverpool where he had ven tougher challenge to hand so I am optimistic of his moves to Bayern Munich he is definitely going  to make impacts in  the German Bundesliga and having a resilient coach as Kompany will give him that moral boost to scale heights in the Bundesliga,  Diaz will be a better option than Fofona , except that does not pull through I still see him as the best choice.

[AirtelBuzz]

Now, we are having a new update on Bayern Munich.
After confirming that Luis Diaz is indeed likely to move from Liverpool, Bayern Munich will now submit a new proposal for the winger. And as an alternative, Bayern Munich will go for Malick Fofana from Lyon.

Source: Bayern new proposal for Luis Diaz expected soon

This new update about Bayern Munich is truly incredible as they have been able to plan for Luis Diaz in recent times.In fact, this player had a strong chance of joining Barcelona, but due to financial considerations, the club may not have been able to purchase him. As a result we are currently seeing this player being forced to move to another league, meaning he may now be involved with a club in the German league. It can be said that if this player that is, this Colombian player had been able to join the Barcelona club, then maybe that player would have been considered the ideal complement to that team. However it seems to me that the German league club may be hoping that the English club will sell the Colombian player soon.

[armanda90]

I see Bayern Munich are seriously looking at the possibility of signing Luiz Diaz, both parties will have to agree with terms because it is obvious that the move will be the best for both parties, Luiz Diaz has fallen out with Liverpool supporters and also his moved to Barcelona collapsed with Rashford the preferred option so this Bayern Munich is the best choice for him. Also Bayern much have already had Sane leave while Musiala is definitely looking to be out of the season with the injury sustained during club World Cup.

Regarding from EPSN Sport news, Liverpool rejected 78 million euro bid offer from Bayern Munich and want higher amount if Bayern interested to sign him, both team still continue negotiation reach agreement deal the best transfer fees for Luiz Diaz. Bayern Munich have priority for signing Luiz Diaz and keep continue negotiation for increasing bid offer based on how much transfer asking by Liverpool. I think Luiz Diaz could be good replacing for Jamal Musiala looks out until the end of this season after getting injury at FIFA Club World Cup match.

For awhile, Liverpool have many top winger recently after several new recruitment and I don't think easily for Luiz Diaz get regular position for next season. Good ideas moving to Bayern Munich regarding not difficult for him get regular or more minutes playing without having many top players at winger position. If Bayern reach agreement deal based on bid offer asking by Liverpool seems easily for Luiz Diaz out from Liverpool and begin new journey at Bayern Munich.

[free-bit.co.in]

Moving from a top team in EPL to another top team in the German Bundesliga will not be a bad move for Diaz, he has been exceptional in Liverpool where he had ven tougher challenge to hand so I am optimistic of his moves to Bayern Munich he is definitely going  to make impacts in  the German Bundesliga and having a resilient coach as Kompany will give him that moral boost to scale heights in the Bundesliga,  Diaz will be a better option than Fofona , except that does not pull through I still see him as the best choice.

Bayern Munich management is desperate to buy Luis Diaz. We saw a good performance from Diaz last season. This Liverpool forward managed to score 13 goals. And that is why Kompany is showing a lot of interest in Diaz. He considers Luis Diaz suitable for his match strategy.
Bayern Munich make final decision on Luis Diaz transfer after Liverpool rejected £58.5m bid

However, Liverpool has rejected Bayern Munich's offer of 58.5 million. Liverpool is very likely seeking a large total. You know Bayern Munich is a wealthy club, if Munich management finds Luis Diaz suitable for their squad, then they will be interested in spending up to 70/80 million. Liverpool management wants to buy Nick Woltemade from Stuttgart. And if they sign Nick Woltemade, there is no doubt that they will sell Diaz. We will probably see Diaz in Munich next season. But for this, Munich will have to spend around 70 million.

[Lida93]

In terms of regrets I still think in all of the options that Bayer Leverkusen had then Erik Ten Hag was the best candidate with the right portfolio of track winning record among the people shortlisted for that interview. So it shouldn’t be a thing for them to regret even if it didn’t work out

I think all eyes are now in Bayer Leverkusen after the departure of many key players but also because there is still interest in some of the remaining ones like Granit Xhaka from Inter Milan for example.
Now Eric Ten Hag was able to recruit few players that replaced those who went out of the team, yet some positions have only one player and depending from the strategy he will adopt, there will be difficulties in case of injuries. This problem should be taken in consideration because the upcoming season will be harder than the previous one.

I hope that Ten Hag gets it right this time, because if his decisions worsen the team performance, it's going to be a shame on him. Having players without backups will be a big challenge should incase, any of them is injured or drops form. Ten Hag can make the club proud of him, if he knows what he's doing. Leverkusen have suffered from poor performance before Xabi Alonso strengthen the club.

Ten Hag would have to be careful with his job at Bayer Leverkusen because for anything that should make him give a performance below where he met the team from Xabi Alonso then it's going to be a dent to his coaching record. It will be very risky that he goes into the new season without backup players to certain critical positions in his team. Bayer Leverkusen is one of the best team presently reckoned in the bundesliga after Bayern Munich so a lot of high expectations will be fixed on them for next season's competition in their domestic league.

[imamusma]

Now, we are having a new update on Bayern Munich.
After confirming that Luis Diaz is indeed likely to move from Liverpool, Bayern Munich will now submit a new proposal for the winger. And as an alternative, Bayern Munich will go for Malick Fofana from Lyon.

Source: Bayern new proposal for Luis Diaz expected soon

Moving from a top team in EPL to another top team in the German Bundesliga will not be a bad move for Diaz, he has been exceptional in Liverpool where he had ven tougher challenge to hand so I am optimistic of his moves to Bayern Munich he is definitely going  to make impacts in  the German Bundesliga and having a resilient coach as Kompany will give him that moral boost to scale heights in the Bundesliga,  Diaz will be a better option than Fofona , except that does not pull through I still see him as the best choice.

Luis Diaz feels his playing time will be limited next season, after Liverpool recruited several new players. Arne Slot seems likely to rely more on Cody Gakpo on the left wing, and the arrival of Florian Wirtz also adds competition up front.
I think this is the right time to leave, Bayern Munich is a good option, and I assume Liverpool would be willing to let Luiz Diaz go. The transfer is highly likely to happen, and Luis Diaz is clearly better than Malick Fofana.

[SatoPrincess]

I have heard that Bayern Munich is after the youngster Nick Woltemade (23). He is a SS mainly but can play as CF and AM as well. However there is a problem...

They made a huge offer like 55 million euros + 10% sell-on clause to Stuttgart. But it was still rejected.    His market value is 30 million euros. However it seems like they have an abnormal price tag in their mind.

Is he really worth that much you think? He had an average season the last time. He started to play in the main squad of German national team too. But I don't think he is worth a huge amount now.

This name is strange to me, I am hearing it for the first time but for the fact that Bayern Munich is interested in signing him then there must be something special about him.
I just read somewhere that Bayern Munich have paused negotiations for the player after seeing two bids rejected by his parent club, they now want to prioritize Luiz Diaz at the moment.

[SatoPrincess]

Because Ten Hag had a very difficult season at Man United, it was felt that he was considered a bad coach. And especially as Xabi's replacement, it would certainly be considered very bad if he couldn't deliver the best results.

Unfortunately, in this opening match, Ten Hag was actually embarrassed by being defeated by Flamengo U20, even though it was a friendly match.

The coach Eric Ten Hag is most under discussion due to his failure in Manchester United and his replacement with the coach Xabi Alonso in Bayern leverkusen. But the main thing is predicting his performance by seeing the pre season matches is completely unfair. Maybe they planned some changes for the season and noticed mistakes in pre-season matches. I think it's wrong to make an image about someone by seeing his previous mistakes. It's not necessarily the same things that will be repeated in another place or with new faces. So, let's motivate him somehow so that he can do well and even more well. He just needs to focus on his goal and avoid the negative things circulating about him. And his relation with the players must be as strong and friendly as possible.

It's too early to start judging ten hang because of his preseasons games which are just for the purpose of practice and keeping fit we have to wait until the new season starts before we can start throwing stones at him and again we should not expect ten hang to replicate what Xabi Alonso was able to do in Leverkusen because anyone expecting ten hang to do so well be disappointed as Xabi was super exceptional while at Leverkusen

The people judging Erik Ten Hag by the defeat Bayern Leverkusen conceded against Flamengo U20 should know that Erik Ten Hag winning his preseason matches doesn't justify that he will do well at Bayern Leverkusen next season; they should wait until the new German Bundesliga season starts, and if Erik Ten Hag fails to do well at Bayern Leverkusen, they can start judging him.

I know it is too early to start dishing criticism out but to be frank losing in that manner to an U20 team is embarrassing and is not something that we can just say okay and look away, it might be a friendly match but he has to do better atleast for the reputation of the club he manages.

[MinoRaiola]

Now, we are having a new update on Bayern Munich.
After confirming that Luis Diaz is indeed likely to move from Liverpool, Bayern Munich will now submit a new proposal for the winger. And as an alternative, Bayern Munich will go for Malick Fofana from Lyon.

I think it doesnt matter if Bayern Munich bring new players into their team. The coach Vincent Kompany is good, he has a lot of experience from the Premier League. He has only won one title as a coach, 1x German champion. But his discipline is good, he is always ready for action.
I think the problem is in the management. We keep hearing negative things about Uli Hoeneß in the last few weeks. I think it is about time the old man only watched the games and no longer made decisions. Something is not right in the management, it is strange.

[RockBell]

Ten Hag would have to be careful with his job at Bayer Leverkusen because for anything that should make him give a performance below where he met the team from Xabi Alonso then it's going to be a dent to his coaching record. It will be very risky that he goes into the new season without backup players to certain critical positions in his team. Bayer Leverkusen is one of the best team presently reckoned in the bundesliga after Bayern Munich so a lot of high expectations will be fixed on them for next season's competition in their domestic league.

from what is happening now, a lot of things need to be observed because this is a different league so Ten Hag needs to be very careful because this is an opportunity for them to do something better When he was in Manchester united things were not going well and now been the coach of leverkusen a lot of things are expected from him.  and from the way it is going the only way that he can vindicate him self is for him to win a trophy this season and the problem now is that it wont be that easy because of bayern kompany will make it very difficult for ten hag, and eventually if the backup players are gotten then they will be able to make a difference for this shows that players are very important.

[Adbitco]

Unfortunately, in this opening match, Ten Hag was actually embarrassed by being defeated by Flamengo U20, even though it was a friendly match.

Wait, so this is true! I was scrolling down on Facebook and saw a post by Fabrizio on his page were he posted, Flamingo U20  4 Vs Bayern Leverkusen 0 HT, like four goals to nothing against Leverkusen and it's not even their main but by the U20. I went online to check to confirm if it wasn't a prank by Fabrizio. How really did this Leverkusen side turn out like this under Ten Hang, it might be just a friendly match but common, against U20's?

Yes, at first I also saw it in some memes and thought it was just a mockery of Ten Hag, but when I found it on Leverkusen's Twitter, ah, this is true. And even more so on Google. Even though this is just a friendly match, is it possible that Ten Hag is that relaxed and not that serious about preparing his squad? After all, it's the first match; he should understand the club's expectations under his coaching.

It's not easy, but even if they lose a friendly match, it shouldn't mean they have to be slaughtered, especially by a U20 club.  
here is what reaction from Ten hag after this bad defeat

Source: reaction from Ten hag after this bad defeat

I just don't understand this man, what's he talking about losing players. Was he expecting someone to die or get injured in the game. A team managed by him lost 5 - 0 to an under 20 team and his here saying a totally different thing. A friendly game yes, but losing to such a team is uncalled for, not even their senior team but brunch of players that some are still probably teens. Let's see the kind of excuses he will bring up when maybe a division thrash him again.