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June 04, 2025, 09:35:03 PM
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Fr Most of you lots here are toxic bums. Before Manchester United,  Erik ten Hag was a solid manager and even before all he's won with Ajax, he previously won with a lower club in that same league competition. I see no reason for him to fail. He is a winner and wherever he goes he wins. Xabi Alonso has left him a good performing side, I will see what he adds and removes from it. A new goalkeeper just joined from Brentford,  I hope he's learning from hos failings at Manchester United.

How much money did Erik ten Hag spend on signings at Manchester United?

answer: $807m

https://www.goal.com/en/lists/erik-ten-hag-man-utd-signings-ranked/blte734c9451e89fd5e

The guy spent a lot of money and had a lot of time to put together a winning team and he couldn't, so this isn't toxic, this is real, you can research this data yourself, it's real, it's not fake news, it's not just people's opinions, it's real data. When a coach has unlimited resources to be able to sign any player and still he fails, then the problem is with him. And anyone will have a lot of doubts about him in relation to Leverkusen, which doesn't have the same background that Manchester United has. At Leverkusen he can fail too.
It's true that these players that ten hang signed became flops but you can't blame ten hang for that check all the players that has come to united in the past five years they has become all flops look at onana from been one of the best goal keepers in Ajax to one of the worst in United not forgetting Harry maguire  been one of the best defenders in the world in Leicester to one of the best in United the problem is that United is not a good team so it affects any player that come over there

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June 04, 2025, 09:36:18 PM
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It will take time for Ten Hag to make changes at Leverkusen because after all the departure of Xabi Alonso has made this team have to go through adjustments. The target next season to compete for the title but it will be difficult to achieve if Leverkusen does not strengthen the team with the swelling of several important players. Everyone associates Ten Hag's failure at Manchester United and maybe many people are pessimistic that Leverkusen under Ten Hag's coaching can be much more successful. Anything can happen but we need to give him time and trust him because who knows he could repeat the success he had at Ajax.
The club has lost so many players already and I am sure some will still go before the transfer window closes and losing Alonso also will definitely affect the team and things will be more difficult for the new coach. I also think things won't happen instantly when Ten Hag takes over it will take a little time and so i don't expect them to be in the title race this coming season but if they should be in it then I would be surprised and commend Ten Hag for a job Weldon.
Being in Leverkusen will have less pressure than at Manchester United and I think they will also give him time and trust his process. I have a feeling that he might do well in Leverkusen and redeem himself.

But everyone is not getting it right about him now, he may be so poor at Manchester United but it doesn’t mean same will happen in this new club he’d joined now to manage especially when there is high hopes on him to keep the team on high hopes of reviving their good form.
You're right, he used to be a very good coach but coming to Manchester United change how everyone viewed him which I believe is the pressure at the club, the desperation of success is what is killing the team and affecting the coaches there which I believe it won't be so at Leverkusen despite tasting glory recently. I have believe that things will be different for Ten Hag now and he might do at his new club.

 
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June 04, 2025, 10:33:17 PM
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https://www.teamtalk.com/liverpool/liverpool-to-seal-florian-wirtz-transfer-colossal-fee-leverkusen-say-yes

As expected, Leverkusen finally gives a green light to Wirtz's transfer to Liverpool.
After rejecting the first two offers, Liverpool made another one and put €142.5m (£120m) on the table, which was a slightly below Leverkusen's asking price of €150m (£126m).
They couldn't say no to that.

If the transfer goes ahead, this will be the most expensive signing in Premier League's history and a huge money inflow for Leverkusen.

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The structure of Bayer Leverkusen next year is very, very important. They will play with a new coach and the players will need to be in harmony with him. They should complete the transfers quickly so that the new transfers can contribute well to the team. Their return to the championship in Germany depends only on perfect planning.

Bayern Leverkusen have been one of the teams that have been talked most about since the end of this season heading to the next season. Their change of manager and many top players leaving to other top teams have been what has brought about the discussions. Also, their new manager happen to be one many thinks can’t do anything much for the club because of his most recent record in a top team in Europe which ended him being sacked. This is a new journey and a new path for him, maybe he’ll be more successful here than he has ever been since the start of his managerial career.

Bayern Leverkusen has rose against all odds and have become a top team in the German Bundesliga recently, it becomes a necessity for their new coach Eric Ten Hag to be in his best management for the success of the team because seeing themselves falling back after climbing up the ladder of success will be very sad. He has a big task on him to deliver and he must try and do it or risk losing his job again. We just await the next season to see how it will be for this great team after finishing the season as runner up.

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The structure of Bayer Leverkusen next year is very, very important. They will play with a new coach and the players will need to be in harmony with him. They should complete the transfers quickly so that the new transfers can contribute well to the team. Their return to the championship in Germany depends only on perfect planning.
Yes, Bayer Leverkusen need new players to strengthen their team so they can compete in all competitions next season, especially in the Bundesliga. However, the truth is that even with the current squad, the new coach can still use it to win a trophy. So, it is not only new signings that can make Leverkusen successful. If the new coach is an experienced and tactically sound, it is very possible that he can use the current Bayer Leverkusen squad to even win the Bundesliga.

It would actually be better if they don't give Ten Hag too much money for signings expensive players. They should just give him money to bring in one to three average players and see how the team performs first. Considering how Ten Hag spent money at Manchester United and the players he signed did not perform to the standard expected, it seems many of those players were not worth the signing.So, I would prefer if Leverkusen don't spend too much on signings next season and instead wait to seen the coach performance before allocating more funds for transfers.

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June 05, 2025, 12:24:50 AM
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It's true that these players that ten hang signed became flops but you can't blame ten hang for that check all the players that has come to united in the past five years they has become all flops look at onana from been one of the best goal keepers in Ajax to one of the worst in United not forgetting Harry maguire  been one of the best defenders in the world in Leicester to one of the best in United the problem is that United is not a good team so it affects any player that come over there
Man united situation is a general problem which has lingerd into becoming the club's failure which should have been fixed for a long time now, and the club needs do address with immediate action by doing a total overhauling of the club, ranging from the players to keepers and to the entire management and staffs, if they really needs to get positive results and the bounce back of man Utds team, the need to apply a new strategy or approach in reforming the entire club and the team to position themselves back where they used to be.

 
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June 05, 2025, 12:42:39 AM
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It's true that these players that ten hang signed became flops but you can't blame ten hang for that check all the players that has come to united in the past five years they has become all flops look at onana from been one of the best goal keepers in Ajax to one of the worst in United not forgetting Harry maguire  been one of the best defenders in the world in Leicester to one of the best in United the problem is that United is not a good team so it affects any player that come over there
Man united situation is a general problem which has lingerd into becoming the club's failure which should have been fixed for a long time now, and the club needs do address with immediate action by doing a total overhauling of the club, ranging from the players to keepers and to the entire management and staffs, if they really needs to get positive results and the bounce back of man Utds team, the need to apply a new strategy or approach in reforming the entire club and the team to position themselves back where they used to be.

The problem of Manchester United right now has affected everything in the team starting from the goal keeper to the players and the pattern of the team. The problem has grown to the point that it is not something that can be fixed easily again what the team needs now is to either rebuild the team with new players or the management should hand the team over to a new ownership so that they can run the affairs fo the team very well because from their last seasons performance they don't look like a team that is waking up soon.

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Hopefully, Ten Hag succeeds with Leverkusen, especially because Ten Hag is not really ready and can handle tough competition like the Premier League. Bundesliga will be different. If he can communicate well with his players, he might be able to adapt immediately to his new team. It's just that many doubt, hopefully, he answers those doubts with achievements with Leverkusen.

Fr Most of you lots here are toxic bums. Before Manchester United,  Erik ten Hag was a solid manager and even before all he's won with Ajax, he previously won with a lower club in that same league competition. I see no reason for him to fail. He is a winner and wherever he goes he wins. Xabi Alonso has left him a good performing side, I will see what he adds and removes from it. A new goalkeeper just joined from Brentford,  I hope he's learning from hos failings at Manchester United.
Xabi Alonso has been in charge of Leverkusen for so long and he has organized the team very well, that is why his team went undefeated in the German league last season and was able to achieve good results in this season's Champions League. However, after Xabi Alonso left for Real Madrid, the Leverkusen management has handed over the responsibility of this club to Erik ten Hag.
Earlier, this manager was at Manchester United and Manchester United performed extremely badly under him, due to which many are saying that the way he destroyed Manchester United, he will gradually destroy Leverkusen. Now the point is that you are saying that Xabi Alonso has left a well-organized team and Erik ten Hag will do well with this team, but a manager will never follow the strategy of another manager.

Instead of adopting the strategy that Xabi Alonso achieved success with, the current manager will try to organize the team according to his own wishes and if he does so, the opposite will happen.

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June 05, 2025, 04:42:52 AM
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but you are ignoring the transfer period. I think Leverkusen will sell many players in the transfer period. Because they will receive very high offers and the players will want to leave the team. In this case, it will be necessary to transfer good players in order for the team to be established better. Technical director Ten Hag needs to bring good players to Bayer Leverkusen. If they cannot transfer quality and young players, they may not be in their current position. Right now, everyone expects Leverkusen to be in the championship race next year. Frankly, he will be the technical director I am most curious about in recent years.
That is good to focus on transfer period for Bayer Leverkusen especially after their amazing undefeated win in 2023-2024 Bundesliga season because successful teams mostly face challenge of their best players getting big offers from other clubs which makes transfer window very important time. Your point about needing to bring in good young players to replace anyone who leaves is spot on as their ability to stay in championship race next year will depend heavily on making smart new signings. If they can not replace key players well it will be hard to repeat their success.
The structure of Bayer Leverkusen next year is very, very important. They will play with a new coach and the players will need to be in harmony with him. They should complete the transfers quickly so that the new transfers can contribute well to the team. Their return to the championship in Germany depends only on perfect planning.

Any small mistake will affect Bayer Leverkusen more than we can expect because the absence of Xavi Alonso will not be that easy for them, as their new coach who will come might not be so good as him. But we all know that even with that, if they can finalise their transfer and play a very smart move, it will be easy for them to surely achieve something tangible this coming season because we don’t yet know who will come as a new coach yet. But still, the players will need to adjust and act to the changes they will have after the transfer window.

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June 05, 2025, 05:40:45 AM
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Xabi Alonso has been in charge of Leverkusen for so long and he has organized the team very well, that is why his team went undefeated in the German league last season and was able to achieve good results in this season's Champions League. However, after Xabi Alonso left for Real Madrid, the Leverkusen management has handed over the responsibility of this club to Erik ten Hag.
Earlier, this manager was at Manchester United and Manchester United performed extremely badly under him, due to which many are saying that the way he destroyed Manchester United, he will gradually destroy Leverkusen. Now the point is that you are saying that Xabi Alonso has left a well-organized team and Erik ten Hag will do well with this team, but a manager will never follow the strategy of another manager.

Instead of adopting the strategy that Xabi Alonso achieved success with, the current manager will try to organize the team according to his own wishes and if he does so, the opposite will happen.
What you are commenting may have been wrong because Bayer Leverkusen has not achieved good results in the UEFA Champions League this season. But it was true that Xabi Alonso had been in charge of this team for a long time and he had organized the team well. You can observe the important statistics of this team under Xabi Alonso they have not won a single match in the knockout stage against Bayern Munich. So I think it is very important for the Bayer Leverkusen team to overcome all these weaknesses, previously this team had only finished runner-up in the UEFA Champions League once. But at the moment, based on their performance this season it seems uncertain whether they will ever reach the UCL final under new manager.











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June 05, 2025, 08:34:32 AM
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Any small mistake will affect Bayer Leverkusen more than we can expect because the absence of Xavi Alonso will not be that easy for them, as their new coach who will come might not be so good as him. But we all know that even with that, if they can finalise their transfer and play a very smart move, it will be easy for them to surely achieve something tangible this coming season because we don’t yet know who will come as a new coach yet. But still, the players will need to adjust and act to the changes they will have after the transfer window.
Bayer Leverkusen was average club before arrival of Xabi Alonso but he done good magic and bring them from relegation zone to title winners which is surely one of the best achievement from him now he is already leave and things are back on normal.

Xabi Alonso arrival give some good encouragement to this club as now they can stay in good spot due to having some good performance in top ranks but for this needed some good strategy reports are clearly indicating they are already agreed about transfer of their star player Wirtz's on price of €142.5 Million which is huge amount with this now they can manage more players those could be give good performance and keep things on balance. Here now good time to check about management how they will work for keeping things because if they fail to handle this surely they could be in bottom half which could be big dilemma for them.

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June 05, 2025, 09:20:41 AM
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but you are ignoring the transfer period. I think Leverkusen will sell many players in the transfer period. Because they will receive very high offers and the players will want to leave the team. In this case, it will be necessary to transfer good players in order for the team to be established better. Technical director Ten Hag needs to bring good players to Bayer Leverkusen. If they cannot transfer quality and young players, they may not be in their current position. Right now, everyone expects Leverkusen to be in the championship race next year. Frankly, he will be the technical director I am most curious about in recent years.
That is good to focus on transfer period for Bayer Leverkusen especially after their amazing undefeated win in 2023-2024 Bundesliga season because successful teams mostly face challenge of their best players getting big offers from other clubs which makes transfer window very important time. Your point about needing to bring in good young players to replace anyone who leaves is spot on as their ability to stay in championship race next year will depend heavily on making smart new signings. If they can not replace key players well it will be hard to repeat their success.
The structure of Bayer Leverkusen next year is very, very important. They will play with a new coach and the players will need to be in harmony with him. They should complete the transfers quickly so that the new transfers can contribute well to the team. Their return to the championship in Germany depends only on perfect planning.

Any small mistake will affect Bayer Leverkusen more than we can expect because the absence of Xavi Alonso will not be that easy for them, as their new coach who will come might not be so good as him. But we all know that even with that, if they can finalise their transfer and play a very smart move, it will be easy for them to surely achieve something tangible this coming season because we don’t yet know who will come as a new coach yet. But still, the players will need to adjust and act to the changes they will have after the transfer window.
I am not expecting too much from Leverkusen next season because the team will take time to pick form since they will have a new coach and some of their key players have left the club. The new coach will decide the players to bring into the club to replace the ones that have left. That will be a lot of challenge for them because the players will need time to adapt to the new coach game pattern.

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June 05, 2025, 11:19:54 AM
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I am not expecting too much from Leverkusen next season because the team will take time to pick form since they will have a new coach and some of their key players have left the club. The new coach will decide the players to bring into the club to replace the ones that have left. That will be a lot of challenge for them because the players will need time to adapt to the new coach game pattern.

I don't expect a good performance from Leverkusen next season. If Leverkusen can do well and qualify for the Champions League, then they are lucky.

First of all, Leverkusen has lost their best coach in history, Xabi Alonso. Alonso was a great coach. It is with the help of Alonso that we have seen better performance from Leverkusen in the last few seasons. Alonso built a great squad. And Alonso's match strategy was also very good.

Secondly, Leverkusen is going to sell several players in their squad. And Leverkusen is going to sell the best players in the squad. Florian Wirtz is one of them. Leverkusen has lost their coach, there are going to be big changes in the squad. So keeping the performance stable in the next season is a big challenge for Leverkusen.

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June 05, 2025, 11:40:13 AM
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https://www.teamtalk.com/liverpool/liverpool-to-seal-florian-wirtz-transfer-colossal-fee-leverkusen-say-yes

As expected, Leverkusen finally gives a green light to Wirtz's transfer to Liverpool.
After rejecting the first two offers, Liverpool made another one and put €142.5m (£120m) on the table, which was a slightly below Leverkusen's asking price of €150m (£126m).
They couldn't say no to that.

If the transfer goes ahead, this will be the most expensive signing in Premier League's history and a huge money inflow for Leverkusen.

This is really an insane amount.  Grin  First they stated Leverkusen's conditions like:

- 150 million euros fee for Bayern Munich
- 100 million for other teams

But it seems like that was just a rumour or they changed their demands. Liverpool is still going after him. Wirtz is one of the best midfielder choices in the market for sure. I'm curious about whether we will see Xabi Alonso's Real Madrid intervening as well.

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June 05, 2025, 12:20:39 PM
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I am not expecting too much from Leverkusen next season because the team will take time to pick form since they will have a new coach and some of their key players have left the club. The new coach will decide the players to bring into the club to replace the ones that have left. That will be a lot of challenge for them because the players will need time to adapt to the new coach game pattern.
Most people doubt Ten Hag because previously Leverkusen had a coach who was able to make some big changes to the club and vice versa with some players who have left the club. But we can see next season how Ten Hag can give his best even though he needs time to adjust. At least being able to compete in the top three and qualifying for the Champions League is more than enough because it is not easy to make a team compete for the championship title with the current conditions.

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June 05, 2025, 01:29:35 PM
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That is good to focus on transfer period for Bayer Leverkusen especially after their amazing undefeated win in 2023-2024 Bundesliga season because successful teams mostly face challenge of their best players getting big offers from other clubs which makes transfer window very important time. Your point about needing to bring in good young players to replace anyone who leaves is spot on as their ability to stay in championship race next year will depend heavily on making smart new signings. If they can not replace key players well it will be hard to repeat their success.
The structure of Bayer Leverkusen next year is very, very important. They will play with a new coach and the players will need to be in harmony with him. They should complete the transfers quickly so that the new transfers can contribute well to the team. Their return to the championship in Germany depends only on perfect planning.

Bayer Leverkusen will build their squad next season, although I understand that they will sell some of their players during the transfer window, but they are going to get new players to strengthen their team again. They will be starting the new season with a new coach. With this season, I think they should get in new players early so the new players and the current players will be able to get used to the coach's style of play.

Let's's see what Leverkusen will do during the transfer window, but I know they will definitely strengthen the squad ahead of next season;; they want to repeat their success again next season..

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June 05, 2025, 01:30:18 PM
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This is really an insane amount.  Grin  First they stated Leverkusen's conditions like:
- 150 million euros fee for Bayern Munich
- 100 million for other teams
But it seems like that was just a rumour or they changed their demands. Liverpool is still going after him. Wirtz is one of the best midfielder choices in the market for sure.
I'm curious about whether we will see Xabi Alonso's Real Madrid intervening as well.
Maybe that price tagg was just made because they are in the same League for Bayern Munich , thats what i think.
So its possible that they want to be sure if Wirtz leaving the club that he dont goes to an direct competitor , specially because its Munich , but who knows.
I guess that Xabi Alonso tried a few times to get Wirtz with him to Real Madrid and its possible that we will see him there for sure.
He has the skills and all to making something that Kroos have done there.
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Maybe that price tagg was just made because they are in the same League for Bayern Munich , thats what i think.
So its possible that they want to be sure if Wirtz leaving the club that he dont goes to an direct competitor , specially because its Munich , but who knows.
I guess that Xabi Alonso tried a few times to get Wirtz with him to Real Madrid and its possible that we will see him there for sure.
He has the skills and all to making something that Kroos have done there.

I don’t think there was any price discrepancy between clubs They had actually put him up for that huge £150 million price for all the clubs coming so it wasn’t Bayern Munich. And in fact it wasn’t the club that advised against selling him to Bayern Munich but I think it was the player him self that opted for the transfer to Liverpool, moreover aside injury I think Bayern Leverkusen already has Jamaal Musiala who to me is better than Florian Wirtz

We are not going to see him at Real Madrid most especially not this season or with that huge amount of money, Real Madrid are looking to be very conventional in spending this days that they are actually looking for players with lower valuation and at the moment their target is the Stuttgart midfielder Angelo Stiller who is more cheaper than Wirtz and is considered an all round midfielder than Wirtz.

Liverpool is Wirtz first choice and with this amount on him I don’t think any club will rival them for the signature

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June 05, 2025, 01:59:47 PM
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I don’t think there was any price discrepancy between clubs They had actually put him up for that huge £150 million price for all the clubs coming so it wasn’t Bayern Munich. And in fact it wasn’t the club that advised against selling him to Bayern Munich but I think it was the player him self that opted for the transfer to Liverpool, moreover aside injury I think Bayern Leverkusen already has Jamaal Musiala who to me is better than Florian Wirtz
For me Jamal Musiala is also in some ways better then Florian Wirtz there is no question about that.
But if you have seen them both playing together you know what i mean , they fit perfect together in a team and maybe (so thats why my thoughts about that price tagg)

We are not going to see him at Real Madrid most especially not this season or with that huge amount of money, Real Madrid are looking to be very conventional in spending this days that they are actually looking for players with lower valuation and at the moment their target is the Stuttgart midfielder Angelo Stiller who is more cheaper than Wirtz and is considered an all round midfielder than Wirtz.
For sure we will dont see him this or next season in Real Madrid and thats what i have written.
I am sure that in the next years he will get an offer from them.
Angelo Stiller can be going to Real Madrid but would love to see him one more year in Stuttgart.
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June 05, 2025, 02:01:17 PM
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The structure of Bayer Leverkusen next year is very, very important. They will play with a new coach and the players will need to be in harmony with him. They should complete the transfers quickly so that the new transfers can contribute well to the team. Their return to the championship in Germany depends only on perfect planning.

Of course, the team will be strong in the market for signings any kind of player to strengthen their performance next season, but this team is not rich enough to buy any player they want in the market, they are not rich enough like Bayern Munich to buy any top their choice player, perhaps they want to sell their key players for a huge amount of money in order to buy some player to improve their performance, they will need a stronger defense because they conceded unnecessary goals last season which prevented them from winning a trophy.

However, I've heard a rumor that Ten Hags has added Manchester United Antony to the list of players they plan to sign for the next season. As a manager who always wants to be reunited with his former players, I hope Ten Hag signs Onana as well. Manchester United fans will be satisfied to see the deal done because Onana has been their problem ever since he joined the team.

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