Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Lafu]

Schalke has got so much overtime and didn't shot a goal.  

And two red cards for Hoffenheim. Didn't watch the game but that is the right time for Leverkusen to climb on the first place because next weekend they will play against Bayern.

Damn , havnt seen that they got 2 Red cards and just noticed 1 of them , ok that explains why Leverkusen have won the game !
And for sure next Weekend will be the Top match between Bayern and Leverkusen and i guess maybe pointing the way for the Team that will win this Match.
If Bayern will play as they have done it yesterday i guess they will lose this match.

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[nikola22]

meanwhile the victory of Bayer Leverkusen over Hoffenheim 4-1 allowed them to take the first spot in the Bundesliga table with 25 points. Bayern Munich and RB Leipzig both trailing with 24 points. so this season the race for the title will be very interesting.

[seek3r]

meanwhile the victory of Bayer Leverkusen over Hoffenheim 4-1 allowed them to take the first spot in the Bundesliga table with 25 points. Bayern Munich and RB Leipzig both trailing with 24 points. so this season the race for the title will be very interesting.

Yes, currently it looks a bit more exciting than in the last seasons
Leverkusen is currently in a good form but I don't think they will be able to show their performance over the whole season.

This week will be full with games, starting on tuesday and wednesday. On the 19.12 we will see the match between Leverkusen and Bayern. Very excited for this match 

[snipie]

Schalke has got so much overtime and didn't shot a goal.  

And two red cards for Hoffenheim. Didn't watch the game but that is the right time for Leverkusen to climb on the first place because next weekend they will play against Bayern.

Damn , havnt seen that they got 2 Red cards and just noticed 1 of them , ok that explains why Leverkusen have won the game !

Well technically even with 11 players, Hoffenheim wouldn't win this game easily. Before the first red card, they were behind with 3 goals to 1 at 64 minutes with few threatening attempts.
Leverkusen are scoring many goals lately without a single defeat, they will play vs Koln this Wednesday and I assume they will win then as you said, depending from Bayern performance this Saturday, they might have a weak chance to win or at least escape with a draw.

[bct_ail]

Yes, currently it looks a bit more exciting than in the last seasons
Leverkusen is currently in a good form but I don't think they will be able to show their performance over the whole season.

But did you ever think that Bayern could not win? The others have to accept the gifts from Bayern. 

[seek3r]

Yes, currently it looks a bit more exciting than in the last seasons
Leverkusen is currently in a good form but I don't think they will be able to show their performance over the whole season.

But did you ever think that Bayern could not win? The others have to accept the gifts from Bayern. 

Sure. Everyone except Schalke can win against Bayern!
I think the last two matches from them showed that they arent invicible. Especially the match against Union should have been a wake-up call. 

[Darkoth89]

Favre has somehow not fit all the time to dortmund ... only the last successes could always somehow separate him from the dismissal.
but now after the next home defeat (first against cologne and now against stuttgart) one had to act...

BVB fire head coach Lucien Favre - Edin Terzic to take over

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bvb-fire-head-coach-lucien-favre-edin-terzic-to-take-over/view/news/376054

I can't understand the BVB here. Maybe Favre really isn't the right coach for them, maybe someone else could've been more successful with the players Dortmund has but sacking Favre now? In the middle of the season? With the reasoning that they are afraid they won't reach their season goals and then trusting on a completely inexperienced Terzic to reach these goals? Favres statistics weren't all that bad as Dortmund coach and I am sure they would've finished in the top 3 easily at the end of the season. Then they still could've evaluated the season and make a clear cut and start the next season with a new coach. That move to sack Favre is really risky imo or are they hoping Terzic will be as successful as Hansi Flick.

[snipie]

Favre has somehow not fit all the time to dortmund ... only the last successes could always somehow separate him from the dismissal.
but now after the next home defeat (first against cologne and now against stuttgart) one had to act...

BVB fire head coach Lucien Favre - Edin Terzic to take over

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bvb-fire-head-coach-lucien-favre-edin-terzic-to-take-over/view/news/376054

I can't understand the BVB here. Maybe Favre really isn't the right coach for them, maybe someone else could've been more successful with the players Dortmund has but sacking Favre now? In the middle of the season? With the reasoning that they are afraid they won't reach their season goals and then trusting on a completely inexperienced Terzic to reach these goals? Favres statistics weren't all that bad as Dortmund coach and I am sure they would've finished in the top 3 easily at the end of the season. Then they still could've evaluated the season and make a clear cut and start the next season with a new coach. That move to sack Favre is really risky imo or are they hoping Terzic will be as successful as Hansi Flick.

Well I expected to see something similar for Schalke before Dortmund... It is expected anyway, Dortmund failed very hard lately vs weak teams and with the worst humiliating way = receiving 5 goals! plus a draw against Frankfurt... They has 4 defeats in 11 games and they are 5th, the next team to has such defeats in the table is Augsburg 10th

[tyKiwanuka]

I can't understand the BVB here.

I do It's not about the results or their position in the table right now, this is about Favre's personality. He is a very difficult person to deal with longterm and he had the same problems at Hertha and Gladbach in the past (not sure about his stint in Nice). He always gets into trouble with the bosses and their relationship gets worse and worse over time. As long as the team performs well, both sides will just live with it and keep a distanced business relationship. But as soon as the team is in a slump after ~2+ years, the management will grab the opportunity and sack him. By then he will probably also have lost the locker room (which looks to be the case in Dortmund as well), so there is no point in keeping him. This slump doesn't have to last very long; some games of non-results are enough, to justify the sacking publicly without having too many questions asked.

I think he is one hell of a coach and can develop (young) teams extremely well, but he is also an alpha male, which isn't always super obvious when you see/hear him. As a coach you have to be like this to a certain extent and it will work as long as you deliver. But the other alpha males in the club, will not hesitate to get rid of you, once you fade and/or show weaknesses.

[Darkoth89]

He always gets into trouble with the bosses and their relationship gets worse and worse over time.

So did Tuchel. I think Watzke and Zorc aren't always easy to deal with, too. They are both hoping to find a second Jürgen Klopp.

Don't get me wrong. It might be all true what you are saying. I was actually expecting them to sack him after they failed to save their 11 point(?) lead over Bayern over the finish line last season. But sacking him now? Would you say it's riskier to trust a complete newcomer coach to save the season than letting Favre finishing it?

[tyKiwanuka]

Would you say it's riskier to trust a complete newcomer coach to save the season than letting Favre finishing it?

Well, at least it's way easier to kind of control him^^ Zorc and Watzke are surely not the easiest persons to deal with, but they are the bosses, so as a coach of Dortmund you will always come out on the short end, if you don't get along with them and the results are bad-ish.

I don't think Dortmund is planning with Terzic longterm as of now, but will look for a more proven coach in the coming weeks. If Terzic is successful, then he might also stay, who knows. The problem is, there are not that many coaches available right now and judging by their history, they would want a german-speaking coach again - and this won't be Rangnick 100% Marco Rose maybe.....

[btcsmlcmnr]

And Dortmund just sacked Favre

Dortmund in the last season and in this current season are very different. This season they played worse and the injury of Haaland can prolong their troubles. Jadon Sancho can feel bad when he couldn't leave in the summer transfer to Manchester United, a big club, back to his country land and at least Manchester United did not have bad results like Dortmund.

Favre can feel how bitter the career of football manager is. It can change very fast and Mourinho with his 2 coach time in Chelsea proves it too. He won Premier League with Chelsea and one season later, he was sacked 2 times.

[ILuckyGuyI]

Dortmund were terrible in their last 3 matches in the league. They lost to Köln 1-2 in their home stadium. After that, they couldn't manage to win Frankfurt match too. And the result of their last match was embarrasing for them. How the hell did Dortmund lose to Stuttgart 1-5 in their home stadium? I know that Haaland is injured but they have many talented players. They fired Lucien Favre now but I think the real problem here is that Dortmund are having too much problem on scoring goals without Haaland.

[Iranus]

Dortmund were terrible in their last 3 matches in the league. They lost to Köln 1-2 in their home stadium. After that, they couldn't manage to win Frankfurt match too. And the result of their last match was embarrasing for them. How the hell did Dortmund lose to Stuttgart 1-5 in their home stadium? I know that Haaland is injured but they have many talented players. They fired Lucien Favre now but I think the real problem here is that Dortmund are having too much problem on scoring goals without Haaland.

Dortmund lost the match against Stuttgart very badly. They could not return to the truck in the second half. Although the ball was more in Dortmund's possession.  But they could not make a good attack. On the other hand, Stuttgart has less possession. But they were able to attack something very good. Their defender is the main culprit behind losing the Dortmund match. Dortmund's defenders played very badly.

[Lafu]

Tomorrow there are all 4 matches intresting and also very hard to say where to place a bet for !
Normaly Dortmund should win against Bremen but we know what was happend the last Weekend .
Stuttgart vs Union Berlin i really cant say how to bet there its hard but will go for Stuttgart maybe .
Frankfurt plays against Gladbach also very hard to say how will win that .

[Ratash]

meanwhile the victory of Bayer Leverkusen over Hoffenheim 4-1 allowed them to take the first spot in the Bundesliga table with 25 points. Bayern Munich and RB Leipzig both trailing with 24 points. so this season the race for the title will be very interesting.

Yes, currently it looks a bit more exciting than in the last seasons
Leverkusen is currently in a good form but I don't think they will be able to show their performance over the whole season.

This week will be full with games, starting on tuesday and wednesday. On the 19.12 we will see the match between Leverkusen and Bayern. Very excited for this match  

Yes even if bayer leverkusen are in top form and in the first place but the question is will they keep it up? Last seasons we've seen many clubs start a big streak but then they fall behind and bayern dominate the season but leverkusen have the chance to take the lead when they face bayern in the 13 round they must win at home so they can be secured for the moment.

[ingiltere]

I pick over 2.5 goals tonight for Werder Bremen - Borussia Dortmund match because Dortmund get unexpected results lately. Conceding 5 goals from Stuttgart at home was a big surprise. They need to recover from this loss but Bremen away games are always hard.
Both teams to score is another option but I'll stick to 3 goals, no matter which side scores.

[Lordhermes]

I pick over 2.5 goals tonight for Werder Bremen - Borussia Dortmund match because Dortmund get unexpected results lately. Conceding 5 goals from Stuttgart at home was a big surprise. They need to recover from this loss but Bremen away games are always hard.
Both teams to score is another option but I'll stick to 3 goals, no matter which side scores.

Dortmund had been a not consistent winning club, their winning potentially is not as strong as Bayern Munich as there is a sensitive of stagnant play in their players which made them loss unexpectedly. Werder Bremen sure will score a goal in the match.

[dishku]

I pick over 2.5 goals tonight for Werder Bremen - Borussia Dortmund match because Dortmund get unexpected results lately. Conceding 5 goals from Stuttgart at home was a big surprise. They need to recover from this loss but Bremen away games are always hard.
Both teams to score is another option but I'll stick to 3 goals, no matter which side scores.

Dortmund had been a not consistent winning club, their winning potentially is not as strong as Bayern Munich as there is a sensitive of stagnant play in their players which made them loss unexpectedly. Werder Bremen sure will score a goal in the match.

Agreed with you that is totally different match so that I also hope both side will concede goals. Over 2.5 goals looking attractive for that match even hard to predict about the future but not bad to stake little on that pick. Hopefully this match will be entertaining.

[jaberwock]

Honestly it was a game to forget for Dortmund but lets be honest not like they have been this bad for a long time. Last year they were second in the league, year before that second once again, year before that fourth, and third before that, second again before that. So, as you can see they had 3 times second in the past 5 years, with one third and one fourth along the way. They have been consistently one of the best teams of bundesliga for 5 years in a row, they had championships before that as well.

So long story short, just because they had a few game bad streak doesn't make them suddenly bad. Now they are starting fresh again with this change, I am sure they are going to find someone that will be great for them and they will recover and fight for top 3 once again.