Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Lafu]

If Bayern Munich will keep there awesome playing in the new season as they have done in the last and in the last weeks nobody can stop them.
Sadly to say but that is just the true , but on the other side the other teams has got an longer break and maybe there are 2 or 3 teams that can beat them.
When Schalke starts the same as they have end the last season they get a package.

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[Naida_BR]

If Bayern Munich will keep there awesome playing in the new season as they have done in the last and in the last weeks nobody can stop them.
Sadly to say but that is just the true , but on the other side the other teams has got an longer break and maybe there are 2 or 3 teams that can beat them.
When Schalke starts the same as they have end the last season they get a package.

Where is a huge difference between Bayern and all other teams.
Bayern will continue be the dominant club in Germany as they have the best management and training teams in the country.
Only Dortmund can reverse this situation but it needs a lot of time - years to do so.

[swogerino]

If Bayern Munich will keep there awesome playing in the new season as they have done in the last and in the last weeks nobody can stop them.
Sadly to say but that is just the true , but on the other side the other teams has got an longer break and maybe there are 2 or 3 teams that can beat them.
When Schalke starts the same as they have end the last season they get a package.

Where is a huge difference between Bayern and all other teams.
Bayern will continue be the dominant club in Germany as they have the best management and training teams in the country.
Only Dortmund can reverse this situation but it needs a lot of time - years to do so.

Even when Dortmund does this they do it in a sporadic way and they are not able to keep up the fight against Bayern Munich for more than 2 consecutive years.Bayern is more powerful than any other teams in Germany and they are consistent most of the time.The teams who want to beat them need to have a huge desire to be successful and train real hard with the same intensity during all year.I think other teams are not as disciplined as Bayern is when it comes to training.

[bct_ail]

If Bayern Munich will keep there awesome playing in the new season as they have done in the last and in the last weeks nobody can stop them.
Sadly to say but that is just the true , but on the other side the other teams has got an longer break and maybe there are 2 or 3 teams that can beat them.
When Schalke starts the same as they have end the last season they get a package.

Where is a huge difference between Bayern and all other teams.
Bayern will continue be the dominant club in Germany as they have the best management and training teams in the country.
Only Dortmund can reverse this situation but it needs a lot of time - years to do so.

Even when Dortmund does this they do it in a sporadic way and they are not able to keep up the fight against Bayern Munich for more than 2 consecutive years.Bayern is more powerful than any other teams in Germany and they are consistent most of the time.The teams who want to beat them need to have a huge desire to be successful and train real hard with the same intensity during all year.I think other teams are not as disciplined as Bayern is when it comes to training.

Bayern is out of space at the moment. Just remember the break due to Corona. Most of the clubs struggles after the Bundesliga have started again. Bayern have won every game. They havent't lost even one game or scored a draw.

[Lafu]

The teams who want to beat them need to have a huge desire to be successful and train real hard with the same intensity during all year.I think other teams are not as disciplined as Bayern is when it comes to training.

The teams that want and try to beat them have to be a lot of luck and some hope that Bayern Munich have a bad day at this time !
Other teams are disciplined also and i dont think its about that , its hard for other teams because every player from Munich is very good and they all play together as a team.
And for now we havnt seen Sane playing and guess if he comes and keep playing as he has in the past nobody can stop them.

[tyKiwanuka]

The big plus for Bayern regarding Lewandowski is that he is extremely durable on top of being such an excellent striker. He barely misses any games (31.66 appearances on average in Bundesliga in his six years with Bayern) and the bavarians played a risky game in the past, where they didn't have a proper replacement for him all the time. If he tore his ACL or whatever, Bayern would have been in huge trouble imo, but the gamble paid off. Nowadays it wouldn't be that much of a problem, since they have a lot of options offensively (but still no proper central forward besides Lewandowski).

Compare it to Reus from Dortmund, who is extremely important for them, though in a different position. He just played 20 games per season on average in the last 6 years, because dude just can't stay healthy. So being a good/gifted player isn't enough, your body must be ready for the challenge as well and Lewandowski is just amazing overall.

[Darkoth89]

I am wondering how Bayern plans to replace Lewandowski in the long run. As you said, so far he was almost never injured. But he just turned 32 and imho Bayern should already plan for an era after Lewandowski.

Arp is overhyped in my opinion. Zirkzee on the other hand already showed that he knows how to score important goals (against Freiburg for example). I am actually expecting a lot of him. He is only 19 years and will probably learn alot from Lewa in the training sessions. But I guess in the end they gonna just simply sign Haaland from Dormund  

[Juggy777]

I am wondering how Bayern plans to replace Lewandowski in the long run. As you said, so far he was almost never injured. But he just turned 32 and imho Bayern should already plan for an era after Lewandowski.

Arp is overhyped in my opinion. Zirkzee on the other hand already showed that he knows how to score important goals (against Freiburg for example). I am actually expecting a lot of him. He is only 19 years and will probably learn alot from Lewa in the training sessions. But I guess in the end they gonna just simply sign Haaland from Dormund  

@Darkoth89 I don’t think that Bayern will start worrying now because Lewandowski will be able to play at least till 35 years, and then I believe that Bayern will buy Mbappé as his replacement, because he's a natural goal scorer like Lewandowski is. Also Mbappé said he joined PSG because he wanted to win the champions league, and at some stage he’ll realise that he cannot win the champions league with PSG, and hence playing for Bayern will appeal to him therefore I feel that he’ll be the replacement for Lewandowski.

Source:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8654769/I-joined-PSG-win-Champions-League-insists-Mbappe-French-giants-prepare-Lisbon-final.html

[cryptofrka]

@Darkoth89 I don’t think that Bayern will start worrying now because Lewandowski will be able to play at least till 35 years, and then I believe that Bayern will buy Mbappé as his replacement, because he's a natural goal scorer like Lewandowski is. Also Mbappé said he joined PSG because he wanted to win the champions league, and at some stage he’ll realise that he cannot win the champions league with PSG, and hence playing for Bayern will appeal to him therefore I feel that he’ll be the replacement for Lewandowski.

Bayern won't be going for Mbappe for sure. It's just not their style, it's too much money and his salary would be a problem for them.
It's not the case that Bayern does not have money, it's just that they never did spend like that before. Options like Haaland seem more attractive for them and they will probably do that kind of transfer.

Mbappe is a Real Madrid fan and it will probably be his next step anyway.

[Shasha80]

@Darkoth89 I don’t think that Bayern will start worrying now because Lewandowski will be able to play at least till 35 years, and then I believe that Bayern will buy Mbappé as his replacement, because he's a natural goal scorer like Lewandowski is. Also Mbappé said he joined PSG because he wanted to win the champions league, and at some stage he’ll realise that he cannot win the champions league with PSG, and hence playing for Bayern will appeal to him therefore I feel that he’ll be the replacement for Lewandowski.

Bayern won't be going for Mbappe for sure. It's just not their style, it's too much money and his salary would be a problem for them.
It's not the case that Bayern does not have money, it's just that they never did spend like that before. Options like Haaland seem more attractive for them and they will probably do that kind of transfer.

Mbappe is a Real Madrid fan and it will probably be his next step anyway.

I agree that Bayern is not the typical club that would buy Mbappe, as transfer fees and a large salary are the main reasons.
Bayern is not penniless, but Bayern's transfer policy of never spending large sums of money to buy players. Mbappe is likely
to move to teams such as Real Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester City and Chelsea which usually spend large amounts of money
to buy players.

[Lafu]

I also think that we never will see an transfer from Mbappe to Bayern Munich because as cryptofrka already have written its not there style how Mbappe plays !
Haaland would and can be an real option for them but they have already someone that can replace in some years Lewandowski .
You forgot that they have Sane now and i guess that we will see some nice playing with this 2 players together.

[Indymoney]

@Darkoth89 I don’t think that Bayern will start worrying now because Lewandowski will be able to play at least till 35 years, and then I believe that Bayern will buy Mbappé as his replacement, because he's a natural goal scorer like Lewandowski is. Also Mbappé said he joined PSG because he wanted to win the champions league, and at some stage he’ll realise that he cannot win the champions league with PSG, and hence playing for Bayern will appeal to him therefore I feel that he’ll be the replacement for Lewandowski.

Bayern won't be going for Mbappe for sure. It's just not their style, it's too much money and his salary would be a problem for them.
It's not the case that Bayern does not have money, it's just that they never did spend like that before. Options like Haaland seem more attractive for them and they will probably do that kind of transfer.

Mbappe is a Real Madrid fan and it will probably be his next step anyway.

I agree that Bayern is not the typical club that would buy Mbappe, as transfer fees and a large salary are the main reasons.
Bayern is not penniless, but Bayern's transfer policy of never spending large sums of money to buy players. Mbappe is likely
to move to teams such as Real Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester City and Chelsea which usually spend large amounts of money
to buy players.

Bayern's policy not spending some big on players is very good as mostly they have very talented players with less price and they are one of most successfull clube in Europe without big spendings like Real Madrid Barcelona and Manchester City their future players are Sane and Haaland because these both are much better and have styl which suits Bayern.

[Darkoth89]

@Darkoth89 I don’t think that Bayern will start worrying now because Lewandowski will be able to play at least till 35 years, and then I believe that Bayern will buy Mbappé as his replacement, because he's a natural goal scorer like Lewandowski is. Also Mbappé said he joined PSG because he wanted to win the champions league, and at some stage he’ll realise that he cannot win the champions league with PSG, and hence playing for Bayern will appeal to him therefore I feel that he’ll be the replacement for Lewandowski.

Source:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8654769/I-joined-PSG-win-Champions-League-insists-Mbappe-French-giants-prepare-Lisbon-final.html

Well, 'worrying' is probably the wrong word. But it would be foolish for Bayern (or any team in general) to not have an early plan on how to replace their top performers one day. Even if Lewandowski has 2 or 3 more good seasons ahead, Bayern can't wait that long and only start to look for a replacement when Lewa ends his carreer/moves to a different club.  Ideally, they would find a talented young striker who they could then slowly build up and perhaps substitute him for Lewa from time to time. Maybe Zirkzee can be exactly that?!

And as much as I'd love to see Mbappe in the Bundesliga, that's not gonna to happen. Bayern hardly makes these kind of record transfer deals. And that's why Haaland (which I mentioned as a joke) won't probably end up in Munich either. Dortmund won't let him go for peanuts and Bayern won't spend 100+ million, especially not when they'd finance a direct competitor this way.

[Lafu]

They have already started to bring new young players in for that postion that Lewandowski playes , Serge Gnabry and Leroy Sane !
Both of them can play that position easy and i would love to see them all two playing togehter as they have done already in the German national team.
All of them World class playes and they still young .

[Indymoney]

They have already started to bring new young players in for that postion that Lewandowski playes , Serge Gnabry and Leroy Sane !
Both of them can play that position easy and i would love to see them all two playing togehter as they have done already in the German national team.
All of them World class playes and they still young .

Germany is full of soccer talent because they have too many players in past and in current squad these two have some good future for them Gnabry and Sane can do much better then many players woth millions of USD and playing with player like Lewandowski is really good expereince for them which help them in long run future career.

[tyKiwanuka]

They have already started to bring new young players in for that postion that Lewandowski playes , Serge Gnabry and Leroy Sane !

Well, Sané and Gnabry play different positions and have very different skill sets; they are no central forwards, but more coming down the flanks, need some space and speed to really shine. Lewandowski is a modern-oldschool striker. Haaland was mentioned, who would fit pretty well imo and Bayern has a habit of buying the best players from Dortmund (and the rest of the league).

Regarding Mbappé I agree that he is not what Bayern would want right now (as replacement for Lewa). But who knows what the Bayern style will look like once the Pole retires or goes elsewhere and/or they have a new coach. Bayern is a super healthy club, though not as shiny like some english/spanish clubs. But you won't find an organisation in the whole football world that is so well run like Bayern - and they are still preserving their independence, while being able to compete at top level internationally. They could get and pay every player they want easily, but they won't do it, because no player is bigger than the club and breaking the bank for a single player is never a good thing (team chemistry etc.).

[Lafu]

Lewandowski is a modern-oldschool striker.
Haaland was mentioned, who would fit pretty well imo and Bayern has a habit of buying the best players from Dortmund (and the rest of the league).

With Haaland i have written that in some of my earlier posts and yes this can be happen again.
Remember where Lewandowski has played before he was going to Bayern Munich ?
Same Club as Haaland is playing now , but for sane and Gnabry they can play the position from Lewa. they played that in the National team already.

[Darkoth89]

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Haaland was mentioned, who would fit pretty well imo and Bayern has a habit of buying the best players from Dortmund (and the rest of the league).

But Dortmunds strategy when setting up new contracts for their players have changed quite a lot over the last years. Ironically it was Bayern that set this development in motion when they got Hummels, Götze or Lewandowski for cheap from Dortmund. They won't build in cheap buyout clauses in their contracts and are now rejecting offers that don't meet their demands. And that they'll let a contract run out like the one of Lewandowski, won't happen. Sancho is a good example for that. Not only haven't they accepted Man Uniteds offer because it was too low, they also extended the contract with Sancho.

So as I said before, that's why I think we won't see Haaland moving from Dortmund to Bayern. My guess is that at some point he'll be sold for 100+ million to either Real or a club from the Premier League.

[tyKiwanuka]

They won't build in cheap buyout clauses in their contracts and are now rejecting offers that don't meet their demands. And that they'll let a contract run out like the one of Lewandowski, won't happen.

Yes. The problem in the equation is often the player and/or agent. If a player wants to leave the club no matter what, this will always create agitation, whatever the contract says. Creates a lose-lose-lose situation then, where everyone is unhappy. The biggest loser is probably the club, where this player is currently under contract, because most likely he will not perform as good as he used to - being sulky. So putting in ultra-high buyout clauses, rejecting good offers, is only helping them so much (if the player really wants to leave).

I am pretty sure that if Haalands wants to go to Bayern and they want him too and can pay him, he would be able to go there in the end. But England/Spain is more likely, since he will be that good in 1-2 years, that Bayern won't pay what these super "rich" clubs are willing to pay

[Darkoth89]

Yes. The problem in the equation is often the player and/or agent. If a player wants to leave the club no matter what, this will always create agitation, whatever the contract says. Creates a lose-lose-lose situation then, where everyone is unhappy. The biggest loser is probably the club, where this player is currently under contract, because most likely he will not perform as good as he used to - being sulky. So putting in ultra-high buyout clauses, rejecting good offers, is only helping them so much (if the player really wants to leave).

I am pretty sure that if Haalands wants to go to Bayern and they want him too and can pay him, he would be able to go there in the end. But England/Spain is more likely, since he will be that good in 1-2 years, that Bayern won't pay what these super "rich" clubs are willing to pay

You probably have Dembele (and Aubemeyang) in mind, right? It is true that a player could somehow force his transfer by simply going on strike and not showing up for training etc.. That's always a risk for a club that demands a player to fulfill his contract. But these players should be aware what effect such a behaviour has on their reputation and some clubs would probably think twice before offering them a contract. For Dembele his transfer to Barca was all but beneficial for his career.

Uli Hoeneß said back then about Dembele and Barca that "forcing a player to break a contract is the lowest class" (https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/hoeness-slams-barcelonas-dembele-pursuit-lowest-class) and that "for each day (that Dembele misses training) he would get a fine of 100.000 Euro from me" (https://www.welt.de/sport/fussball/article167815840/Dembele-wuerde-bei-mir-100-000-Euro-Strafe-bekommen-jeden-Tag.html). So even if Hoeneß isn't president anymore, I doubt that things have changed much for Bayern Munich: That they would sign a player who strikes his way out of his contract is highly unlikely.