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December 30, 2022, 12:11:46 PM
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The problem of such gaps is not in the number of points to the desired place (4th), but in the number of teams that need to be overtaken. In this case it is 8 teams. I think the chances of Bayer this season to get a ticket to the Champions League are close to zero. Even if all these 8 teams started on equal terms, Bayer would have a 15-20% chance of defeating all of them, but with such a lag, this is unrealistic.

19 games and 57 points. if Bayer Leverkusen get 35 or 39 points, they will play internationally again next year. but not in the champions leaque.
Leverkusen has to get at least 58-60 points. and i don't think Leverkusen can do that.
in the last 4 years, the bundesliga teams had to get at least 58 points to get a place in the CL. they won't manage that.
however, places 5 to 8 are absolutely realistic for me.
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December 30, 2022, 12:20:25 PM
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Other clubs do not have that luxury and are therefore often left behind.
Dortmund received a lot of money for Haaland, but what did they finally get for reinforcements?
Dortmund received for sure a lot of Money from the Haaland transfer and what they did was buying the player Sebastien Haller.
Sadly his injury with cancer was just detected after the transfer was accomplished and finished.
That player is missing in Dortmund and i guess they would be played better with him.
Without any doubt this was really setback for them in this season because no one was having any thought about this injury but now in coming transfer window they can do something better for themselves because time is running out and competition is tough which need quick action otherwise most chances they can drop from top four spots which could be bigger setback with right now we have few teams which are doing good job and have quality and consistency in performance for the staying at top level.

Even now I have feeling Leipzig and Freiburg both can challenge Bayern Munich for the title race as well because right now these both teams are having balanced players and their level is also amazing which can create problems for the leader in coming days.

I believe that this has been a setback for Dortmund over the past few seasons. They are generally prone to selling their most talented players every other season to either Bayern Munich or the English Premier League, which is a very unfortunate situation for them.

There is no doubt that Dortmund would have been an unstoppable force in European football if they had players like Robert Lewandowski and Erling Haaland on their team. However, I think that is why they are able to generate such a large amount of revenue, because they are able to scout out the finest young players and sell them for a decent price.

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December 30, 2022, 01:28:37 PM
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I saw Freiburg on the other hand exactly where they are right now. They have become more consistent in the last few years and now belong in the top 5.
freiburg .yes this club surprises me every year. the new players they get every year is amazing .
i never heard these names before and suddenly they are playing in the national team . freiburg has a good coach and a good management.
that's why they are so successful every year !
It can be said that Freiburg is one of the small Bundesliga teams that is currently of concern to football fans because the team's achievements continue to increase every year and this season they have shown they are able to compete with other big team teams and are able to be in second place in the standings which only 4 points adrift with the Bayern Muchen team, even though their current position on the standings is still a possibility that other teams can catch up but they have shown to be very consistent throughout this season.

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December 30, 2022, 01:39:21 PM
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Bundesliga is so competitive this season. Union Berlin and Freiburg are the most surprising team so far. One wouldn't think they will go that far in the Bundesliga. It has always been Bayern, Dortmund, and Leipzig. The most shocking of all is Dortmund who seems to have flipped out from the top 4 zones. BVB needs to do something in other to change this current situation. It wouldn't be nice to see them miss out on the champion league race next season.
It looks like this season will provide new surprises for several clubs who are in their best form. There is no doubt that this season or next season clubs like Union Berlin and Sc Freiburg will continue to dominate the bundesliga. The UCL zone seems to have started to change and this now belongs to another club, we know Dortmund really dominated with Bayern Munich like the previous season, but it seems that Dortmund will have a little trouble this season to reaching the top 4 of the standings.
Yeah, the league settings have changed. underrated clubs like Freiburg and union Berlin who have not appeared in the Bundesliga top 5 positions, or Europe competition for years, are now a big problem for the likes of Leverkusen, Monchengladbach, and Borussia Dortmund. I'm happy for Bayern Munich and Rb Leipzig, they have proven themselves even as big names like Dortmund, Leverkusen, and Monchengladbach, seem to have faded away in strength. Indeed, Bayern Munich is undoubtedly the Giants of the German Bundesliga.

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December 30, 2022, 01:48:41 PM
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I believe that this has been a setback for Dortmund over the past few seasons. They are generally prone to selling their most talented players every other season to either Bayern Munich or the English Premier League, which is a very unfortunate situation for them.

There is no doubt that Dortmund would have been an unstoppable force in European football if they had players like Robert Lewandowski and Erling Haaland on their team. However, I think that is why they are able to generate such a large amount of revenue, because they are able to scout out the finest young players and sell them for a decent price.

quickly searching on google I saw that dortmund made a profit of €37.8 million in Q1 2022/23 alone, I don't know how far this site is:

https://offthepitch.com/a/monday-briefing-borussia-dortmund-earn-eu378-million-profit-q1-202223

but if really dortmond are making big profits each season then they won't try too hard to win the bundesliga though not my opinion if they manage to hire a good manager and keep their good players i'm convinced they could manage to win the bundesliga and with that would see a very competitive bundesliga in which it would be very difficult to guess who would win the bundesliga in each season, the way things are currently each season, you don't even have to try to guess who will be champion because everyone knows that it will be bayern

the other teams just keep playing to qualify for European competitions and thereby expose their players so that they have a very high price on the market. became a very lucrative business for the Bundesliga teams that don't even care about becoming champions anymore



occupying the 6th position, dortmund will play their first game against Augsburg, which in my opinion even though dortmund coming into this game with a sequence of two defeats they will be able to come out with victory in this game against augsburg, which to a certain extent would raise dortmund is in need of victories to stay in a good position in the table, if they lose it will be a big disaster, there will be 3 consecutive defeats

Bundesliga is so competitive this season. Union Berlin and Freiburg are the most surprising team so far. One wouldn't think they will go that far in the Bundesliga. It has always been Bayern, Dortmund, and Leipzig. The most shocking of all is Dortmund who seems to have flipped out from the top 4 zones. BVB needs to do something in other to change this current situation. It wouldn't be nice to see them miss out on the champion league race next season.
It looks like this season will provide new surprises for several clubs who are in their best form. There is no doubt that this season or next season clubs like Union Berlin and Sc Freiburg will continue to dominate the bundesliga. The UCL zone seems to have started to change and this now belongs to another club, we know Dortmund really dominated with Bayern Munich like the previous season, but it seems that Dortmund will have a little trouble this season to reaching the top 4 of the standings.
Yeah, the league settings have changed. underrated clubs like Freiburg and union Berlin who have not appeared in the Bundesliga top 5 positions, or Europe competition for years, are now a big problem for the likes of Leverkusen, Monchengladbach, and Borussia Dortmund. I'm happy for Bayern Munich and Rb Leipzig, they have proven themselves even as big names like Dortmund, Leverkusen, and Monchengladbach, seem to have faded away in strength. Indeed, Bayern Munich is undoubtedly the Giants of the German Bundesliga.

 Grin

it's really sad to see this scenario but there are still many games left to finish the league and as I've seen many cases in which certain old teams fall from position in the beginning and middle of the league but at the end of the league they return to occupy their old positions I think that no final of the league and we will see who will really finish in a good position, of course the number 1 position is guaranteed by bayern, there is no doubt about that

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December 30, 2022, 01:51:39 PM
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Bundesliga is so competitive this season. Union Berlin and Freiburg are the most surprising team so far. One wouldn't think they will go that far in the Bundesliga. It has always been Bayern, Dortmund, and Leipzig. The most shocking of all is Dortmund who seems to have flipped out from the top 4 zones. BVB needs to do something in other to change this current situation. It wouldn't be nice to see them miss out on the champion league race next season.
It looks like this season will provide new surprises for several clubs who are in their best form. There is no doubt that this season or next season clubs like Union Berlin and Sc Freiburg will continue to dominate the bundesliga. The UCL zone seems to have started to change and this now belongs to another club, we know Dortmund really dominated with Bayern Munich like the previous season, but it seems that Dortmund will have a little trouble this season to reaching the top 4 of the standings.
Yeah, the league settings have changed. underrated clubs like Freiburg and union Berlin who have not appeared in the Bundesliga top 5 positions, or Europe competition for years, are now a big problem for the likes of Leverkusen, Monchengladbach, and Borussia Dortmund. I'm happy for Bayern Munich and Rb Leipzig, they have proven themselves even as big names like Dortmund, Leverkusen, and Monchengladbach, seem to have faded away in strength. Indeed, Bayern Munich is undoubtedly the Giants of the German Bundesliga.
All the time there is always a time for any club to shine and it looks like Leverkusen and Monchengladbach, which were very strong several seasons ago, are now slumped in the middle of the standings. I'm not really sure what made some of these clubs collapse little by little, on the other hand, Bayern Munich is a German football giant and it still takes a very long time if you want to break the chain of champions at Die Roten.

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December 30, 2022, 03:12:59 PM
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~snipe~
I saw Freiburg on the other hand exactly where they are right now. They have become more consistent in the last few years and now belong in the top 5.

freiburg .yes this club surprises me every year. the new players they get every year is amazing .
i never heard these names before and suddenly they are playing in the national team . freiburg has a good coach and a good management.
that's why they are so successful every year !
Freiburg have performed quite extraordinarily this season, they even contributed one of the top scorers of the Bundesliga this season (Vincenzo Grifo) with 9 goals

the bundesliga will start in january 2023 and freiburg's opponent is wolfsburg, currently freiburg and bayern only have a difference of 4 points, there is still hope for freiburg to shift bayern's position

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December 30, 2022, 03:23:22 PM
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I agree with you that the German league has become very stale and it is only played to see by how many points Bayern Munich will win the league this time. This has been the case for the past 10 years as they have won every single season and in addition to that, they have even won the local league cups as well.

I agree with you that unless a billionaire buys the club, Bayern Munich will be the undisputed champions for the foreseeable future which is pretty sad. Another thing is that Bayern Munich tends to buy star players from the opposing teams which also cripples them to climb up the table.
Bayern Munich's domination in the last 10 years, I think the Bundesliga's competition that is not very interesting because in the end it only looks at the number or difference in points between Bayern Munich and the second position standing team at the end of the season. Have surprised at the early match Bundesliga started and Union Berlin success lead top standing, but just happening awhile before Bayern Munich return back to their usual position habit.

Even though currently having different with 4 points between first and second place, I don't think there is any guarantee that Freiburg, which is currently in second place, will be able to perform consistently and stay in second place with a slight difference in points. Finally have been easy predicting with Bayern Munich consistency as the Bundesliga winner for eleven time in a row.

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December 30, 2022, 03:36:42 PM
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I agree with you that the German league has become very stale and it is only played to see by how many points Bayern Munich will win the league this time. This has been the case for the past 10 years as they have won every single season and in addition to that, they have even won the local league cups as well.

I agree with you that unless a billionaire buys the club, Bayern Munich will be the undisputed champions for the foreseeable future which is pretty sad. Another thing is that Bayern Munich tends to buy star players from the opposing teams which also cripples them to climb up the table.
Bayern Munich's domination in the last 10 years, I think the Bundesliga's competition that is not very interesting because in the end it only looks at the number or difference in points between Bayern Munich and the second position standing team at the end of the season. Have surprised at the early match Bundesliga started and Union Berlin success lead top standing, but just happening awhile before Bayern Munich return back to their usual position habit.

Even though currently having different with 4 points between first and second place, I don't think there is any guarantee that Freiburg, which is currently in second place, will be able to perform consistently and stay in second place with a slight difference in points. Finally have been easy predicting with Bayern Munich consistency as the Bundesliga winner for eleven time in a row.
Bayern Munich is playing really great football. They have some great players in their team who are playing a huge role in the team. However, the team has a little problem with Bayern Munich's goalkeeper. Hope the coach of the team will solve this problem very well.

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Alexander Nübel has now spoken out and said that a return to Bayern Munich makes no sense as long as Manuel Neuer is in the goal. He thinks Neuer will be back in the goal in the new season. Furthermore, he said that he does not think that Monaco let him go before summer. So it seems that he would still like to stay at AS Monaco.
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December 30, 2022, 04:39:22 PM
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Bayern Munich is playing really great football. They have some great players in their team who are playing a huge role in the team. However, the team has a little problem with Bayern Munich's goalkeeper. Hope the coach of the team will solve this problem very well.
As usual, in Bundesliga, Bayern always becomes the best and hold the title. It seems that they don't have any other competitive clubs tjat can baoance Bayern Munich in Bundesliga. Morever Dortmund, they are really falling down currently.

so if you want to see if Bayern is exactly very good club with strong squad, watch them in UCL.

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December 30, 2022, 04:58:10 PM
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I haven't even heard of Bayern Munich's name for once among all those transfer rumours for a long time. They must be feeling like they don't need to make big transfers these days. It is true if we are talking about the Bundesliga of course. Because they are already very comfortable against the others despite the bad start to the league. The championship has become like a magnet for them.  Grin  They don't need to make any important transfer to win the league as a result.

However things might be different when it comes to the Champions League. Because the real competition for them is there obviously. They might need to get stronger in attacking line especially to beat the biggest title contenders. They have a matchup against one of them already in this round. But it looks like they won't bring a striker in January anyway.

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December 30, 2022, 05:19:10 PM
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Bayern Munich is playing really great football. They have some great players in their team who are playing a huge role in the team. However, the team has a little problem with Bayern Munich's goalkeeper. Hope the coach of the team will solve this problem very well.
As usual, in Bundesliga, Bayern always becomes the best and hold the title. It seems that they don't have any other competitive clubs tjat can baoance Bayern Munich in Bundesliga. Morever Dortmund, they are really falling down currently.

so if you want to see if Bayern is exactly very good club with strong squad, watch them in UCL.
Even though Bayern Munich have lost their main goalkeeper who has been on the crossbar for many years, but I believe it is not a big problem for them in this Bundesliga. As you said, Bayern Munich has no competitors that will make them have to work twice as hard for the title. Borussia Dortmund, which has been their main competitor, is now in an unfavorable situation for Borussia Dortmund.

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Union Berlin and Freiburg are the most surprising team so far. One wouldn't think they will go that far in the Bundesliga. It has always been Bayern, Dortmund, and Leipzig.
Union Berlin is really a surprising team. I had thought they would be more in the midfield this year. Although they finished at place 5 last season. I thought that the triple burden would be too much. But they proved me wrong.
I saw Freiburg on the other hand exactly where they are right now. They have become more consistent in the last few years and now belong in the top 5.

I must admit that both Union Berlin and Freiburg have surprised me a lot this season because both teams have played incredible football so far in the season. Freiburg is currently ranked second in the league right behind Bayern Munich, and if they are able to win their next match, they will be only one point away from being the league's top team. It is my belief that they will be able to give Bayern fierce competition for the league title in the latter part of the season. The form of Borussia Dortmund this season has disappointed me a lot, as they are only in sixth place in the league right behind Union Berlin at the moment.

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Union Berlin and Freiburg are the most surprising team so far. One wouldn't think they will go that far in the Bundesliga. It has always been Bayern, Dortmund, and Leipzig.
Union Berlin is really a surprising team. I had thought they would be more in the midfield this year. Although they finished at place 5 last season. I thought that the triple burden would be too much. But they proved me wrong.
I saw Freiburg on the other hand exactly where they are right now. They have become more consistent in the last few years and now belong in the top 5.

I must admit that both Union Berlin and Freiburg have surprised me a lot this season because both teams have played incredible football so far in the season. Freiburg is currently ranked second in the league right behind Bayern Munich, and if they are able to win their next match, they will be only one point away from being the league's top team. It is my belief that they will be able to give Bayern fierce competition for the league title in the latter part of the season. The form of Borussia Dortmund this season has disappointed me a lot, as they are only in sixth place in the league right behind Union Berlin at the moment.
Even though Union Berlin and Freiburg haven't been able to put great pressure on Bayern Munich, they deserve appreciation for being one of the teams that have managed to play well in recent years. Their job now is to make them able to compete with Bayern Munich. It will be eagerly awaited by many people, that there is a team in the Bundesliga that will provide real competition for the current rulers of the Bundesliga, not only for Union Berlin and Freiburg, but this applies to any team. All would be very welcome if there is a team that can do what I say.

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There is no doubt that Dortmund would have been an unstoppable force in European football if they had players like Robert Lewandowski and Erling Haaland on their team. However, I think that is why they are able to generate such a large amount of revenue, because they are able to scout out the finest young players and sell them for a decent price.
For sure there is no doubt that they would be been unstoppable in the European if they keeped there good players.
But if they would have done that i guess also they would be the most bankrupt Club after Barcelona too , its not possible to handle all the salaries without Investors.
And they sadly have not big investors like some english clubs have.

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Perhaps the biggest problem is the financial situation and differences between Bayern Munich and other clubs. By having good management for years and years, they have a healthy bank account and can actually buy and sell whatever they want. Rarely do you see bad buys at Bayern. Almost all the players who have passed them have become very good. And if you have a sound financial policy that results in a high bank account, it is also easier to build in stability by attracting experienced and good players. Other clubs do not have that luxury and are therefore often left behind. Dortmund received a lot of money for Haaland, but what did they finally get for reinforcements?
Bayern Munich is surely one of the best business models in the sporting world with their sources and facilities which are giving them quality and consistency in their long run performance in the UEFA it's not happened in one or two years they have done good and long run planning then management able to have system like this right now we have no other club in Germany which can do things like these, but I check few details about clubs with this I have feeling Freiburg management is also doing things like these even this will take time, but surely they can do and this could be game changer for them in long run.
Borussia Dortmund is another club which had potential but things never been ideal for them because as they have big amounted they start journey for the new players and their team's moral never been on same level.

There is an old saying which is the rich get richer and the poor get poorer day by day. This is exactly the case for the German league. In view of the fact that Bayern Munich have been the reigning champions of Germany for the past 10 seasons or so, it has made the German league uninteresting to watch for the most part. This is because we all know that Bayern Munich will be the league champion regardless of what happens. It is my opinion that this is going to be the case for the foreseeable future, barring a big billionaire taking over.

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December 30, 2022, 08:31:31 PM
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The club like berlin has been struggling with its performance. I would like to say that if starte from the middle of season and the trophy will be winning by bayern munich. It can be seen from the statistic and rotation that happened in anyother team that compete in the bundesliga. There are lots of change happeened with some clubs like dortmund and leipzig. Frankfurt was also performing so well but when we are seeing from the history and then bayern is dominating everything started from middle until end of season. No doubt if the early season became very attractive caused by some clubs were able to be the same like bayern but not for now until the end of season. Bayern is still above the competitors. there's no chance for competitor to take the trophy for the current season from bayern
Bayern could have some bad starts at times but that doesn't change the fact that they are just a great team which needed a breathing room for a while and after they have managed to fix all their problems they became much better again.

I mean think about it this way, how would you know how great you are if you rely on a single player for many years? They relied on the goal scoring talents of Lewandowski all the time, and that means they had to figure out how to score without him, which wasn't easy at first but they managed to do it. I have seen so many games where they shot many times and did not score much, all because they had to fix some things. Now they are much better than how they started of course.

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December 30, 2022, 08:34:50 PM
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Toni Kroos has announced his retirement from playing football at the end of the season!  the time has come to say goodbye to another champion.  He played excellent football.  What do you think you like him as a player?
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December 30, 2022, 08:42:24 PM
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Toni Kroos has announced his retirement from playing football at the end of the season!  the time has come to say goodbye to another champion.  He played excellent football.  What do you think you like him as a player?

Toni Kroos has been one of the most skillful midfielders for sure. He had so many years with Bayern Munich and Real Madrid in his career. He has always been very helpful for them both. I think his best times were with Bayern Munich. He was able to score many more goals and make many assists at the same time. I don't want to underestimate his Real Madrid career as well of course. He is still a very important player for Real Madrid even though they brought some new youngsters to the team.

Kroos will be remembered very positively by both of these teams surely.

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