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July 13, 2023, 04:57:39 PM
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Bayern München want to sell Sadio Mane. he can move to another club for 20 million euros. but so far no club has contacted Bayern München.
and Bayern München could use that 20 million euros to transfer Kane. but maybe Mane will get an offer from a rich club.
Mane still has a contract until 2025 and can earn up to 25 million euros a year including bonuses at Bayern München. Mane will not give up that money voluntarily.  Wink
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July 13, 2023, 05:15:24 PM
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Bayern München want to sell Sadio Mane. he can move to another club for 20 million euros. but so far no club has contacted Bayern München.
and Bayern München could use that 20 million euros to transfer Kane. but maybe Mane will get an offer from a rich club.
Mane still has a contract until 2025 and can earn up to 25 million euros a year including bonuses at Bayern München. Mane will not give up that money voluntarily.  Wink

But if Mane is really going to be sold or released in this transfer window, then maybe I'll be disappointed too because after all, Mane has also only been one season at Bayern Munich. Indeed, it looks like Bayern Munich really want to getting Kane but i think the desire to bring Kane should not give up Mane for sale. Because i'm sure, maybe if Bayern Munich will still bring in Kane but with not sell Mane, then it looks like Bayern Munich's attack line will be better and maybe also used as player rotation for important matches in the Bundesliga and also in the Champions League.

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July 13, 2023, 05:29:49 PM
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Dortmund has starting their pre season tour yesterday that they had big win against Germany 5th division team Westfalia Rhynern with huge scores 7-0 and as people predicted they were too strong to their opponent that since the beginning of match Dortmund were playing very agressive and in the first half Dortmund were able to leading 3-0 and their statistics during the match also looks fantastic that Dortmund has 79% ball possession and 36 total of shots

I know Dortmund opponent is so weak so i am not surprised if they can able to win with big scores but this first match is good to restore their players fitness and Dortmund next match will be against another weak team Rot-Weiß Oberhausen on Wednesday that Dortmund at least will have 6 pre season matches before Bundesliga starting again and next month Dortmund will fight against Premier League Chelsea and Manchester United

Dortmund didn't have a hard game against this team and they're totally unknown, however, Drtmound and all other teams are in the training phase and they are mostly not ready for the games otherwise they could even win the game with better results. I think the thing Dortmund left do to for this season is to find a better replacement for Bellingham they sold to Real Madrid.



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July 13, 2023, 05:38:15 PM
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Bayern München want to sell Sadio Mane. he can move to another club for 20 million euros. but so far no club has contacted Bayern München.
and Bayern München could use that 20 million euros to transfer Kane. but maybe Mane will get an offer from a rich club.
Mane still has a contract until 2025 and can earn up to 25 million euros a year including bonuses at Bayern München. Mane will not give up that money voluntarily.  Wink

Yes, the reason is said to be his high salary. His current salary is 22 million euros per year. Truthfully this is a really huge amount of money for a player who they don't get a big efficiency from. But due to his salary I don't think he would find a European team for himself that easy. Most of them would be cautious about signing him.

At this point Saudi Arabian teams can intervene. There has already been some interest by three such teams like Al-Ahli, Al-Ettifaq and Al-Nassr. These teams wouldn't only make do with offering the same salary. They would make a big boost to be more convincing to the player.

I think Mane might want to go there as well if he doesn't feel comfortable here.

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July 13, 2023, 07:38:08 PM
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If Sadio Mane will really leave Bayern Munich again after only 1 year, then i think this was definitely one of the most disappointing transfers of Bayern Munich in the last decade. Mane was an absolute world class player at Liverpool and when the first rumors started to appear last year that Mane might come to Bayern Munich i think many did not even believe it at the beginning. Then he really came and the expectations where extremely high obviously. Sadly it did not work out at all, at least not in the last part of the season. At the beginning everything was ok i would say.
If Bayern will sell Mane then they can save his very high salary of 22 Million € per year. This is even more important than the transfer fee they will get for him.
The big money for Mane can be easily paid by a club in Saudi Arabia, there are several clubs that are interested. When I read that Mane received 20 million euros per year, it was a big mistake. They should let him go for any price. I remember a team picture from the Oktoberfest where Mane was the only one of all the players not holding a glass of beer in his hand... over 35 people.

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July 13, 2023, 07:55:17 PM
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Isn't it too optimistic to think that selling Mane brings in a substantial amount of money that could be used to pay Kane? Mane won't be sold for nothing, but I doubt that there is any club currently considering to pay a significant amount to Bayern Munich as Mane also has an ongoing contract. If it is not Saudi Arabia, which club is willing to pay Mane a high salary? He is one of the best paid players and he could also choose to stay and accept the fight in the team while making a fortune even if he doesn't play. All these negotiations will be cumbersome and can take much longer.

Not just Sadio Mane but Bayern Munich can sell even more players to supply the money for hiring this player. I think since Tuchel joined Bayern Munich he didn't make some changes and now he can even sell some players he doesn't need for the next season this way there won't be any problems with hiring Harry Kane and paying the money to Tottenham.
However the Bayern Munich I know got enough money to even hire Kane without selling any player.
 


Bayern Munich has the problem that many of the players they have on their team can play a world class game and then play abysmal as if they have been out of the game for a year. Nagelsmann had that issue and tried to rotate , but then players like Sane or Gnabry or also Mane were all the same. Suck one game, be brilliant the next game. That is why it is not easy to decide whom to sell and whom to keep. I think none of them is steady enough to be playing for Bayern Munich.

Bayern is known for not making ill-considered moves in the market and I think they should stick to that strategy and not abandon it for the sake of shooting from the hip and getting Kane. But they might left without choices soon although it seems that Kane also wants to go to Bayern.

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July 13, 2023, 08:29:05 PM
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Dortmund has starting their pre season tour yesterday that they had big win against Germany 5th division team Westfalia Rhynern with huge scores 7-0 and as people predicted they were too strong to their opponent that since the beginning of match Dortmund were playing very agressive and in the first half Dortmund were able to leading 3-0 and their statistics during the match also looks fantastic that Dortmund has 79% ball possession and 36 total of shots

I know Dortmund opponent is so weak so i am not surprised if they can able to win with big scores but this first match is good to restore their players fitness and Dortmund next match will be against another weak team Rot-Weiß Oberhausen on Wednesday that Dortmund at least will have 6 pre season matches before Bundesliga starting again and next month Dortmund will fight against Premier League Chelsea and Manchester United

Dortmund didn't have a hard game against this team and they're totally unknown, however, Drtmound and all other teams are in the training phase and they are mostly not ready for the games otherwise they could even win the game with better results. I think the thing Dortmund left do to for this season is to find a better replacement for Bellingham they sold to Real Madrid.



Borussia Dortmund had a remarkable pre season. Achieving a score of 7, which is undoubtedly commendable. It is noteworthy that Dortmund effortlessly triumphed over weaker opponents such as Westfalia Rhynern. Demonstrating their strength and skills right from the beginning of the game. This victorious start not only enhances their experience but also highlights areas that require further reinforcement or perhaps the adoption of a refreshed strategy. As we eagerly await the beginning of the next season I firmly believe that Borussia Dortmund will once again demonstrate their resilience and competence standing tall to challenge Bayern Munich.

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I know Dortmund opponent is so weak so i am not surprised if they can able to win with big scores but this first match is good to restore their players fitness and Dortmund next match will be against another weak team Rot-Weiß Oberhausen on Wednesday that Dortmund at least will have 6 pre season matches before Bundesliga starting again and next month Dortmund will fight against Premier League Chelsea and Manchester United
Even though it's their first game, preseason games doesn’t always have to be played against tough opponents.  Preseason games are merely held to put the team to the test to improve their match fitness level and help them gel, as well as to offer newly signed players a chance to contribute. The results don't really matter because some poor opponents even manage to defeat a strong side in a preseason game. They'll likely play a better squad before the preseason is up to see how emotionally and physically ready they are for the season.

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July 13, 2023, 09:43:56 PM
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Dortmund has starting their pre season tour yesterday that they had big win against Germany 5th division team Westfalia Rhynern with huge scores 7-0 and as people predicted they were too strong to their opponent that since the beginning of match Dortmund were playing very agressive and in the first half Dortmund were able to leading 3-0 and their statistics during the match also looks fantastic that Dortmund has 79% ball possession and 36 total of shots

I know Dortmund opponent is so weak so i am not surprised if they can able to win with big scores but this first match is good to restore their players fitness and Dortmund next match will be against another weak team Rot-Weiß Oberhausen on Wednesday that Dortmund at least will have 6 pre season matches before Bundesliga starting again and next month Dortmund will fight against Premier League Chelsea and Manchester United
Yep not too strange with the result because it's not too balanced and this score is actually quite reasonable when looking at the comparison of the two clubs.
I quite like some of the things that Terzic did in this because it's like they utilised almost all the players and see in this match all the players get playing time and this is a good thing in my opinion because this can also make some young players more excited especially those who are often on the bench.
The first game was pretty good and now they'll get back to preparing for the second tour next week.

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July 13, 2023, 10:52:17 PM
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Dortmund has starting their pre season tour yesterday that they had big win against Germany 5th division team Westfalia Rhynern with huge scores 7-0 and as people predicted they were too strong to their opponent that since the beginning of match Dortmund were playing very agressive and in the first half Dortmund were able to leading 3-0 and their statistics during the match also looks fantastic that Dortmund has 79% ball possession and 36 total of shots

I know Dortmund opponent is so weak so i am not surprised if they can able to win with big scores but this first match is good to restore their players fitness and Dortmund next match will be against another weak team Rot-Weiß Oberhausen on Wednesday that Dortmund at least will have 6 pre season matches before Bundesliga starting again and next month Dortmund will fight against Premier League Chelsea and Manchester United
Yep not too strange with the result because it's not too balanced and this score is actually quite reasonable when looking at the comparison of the two clubs.
I quite like some of the things that Terzic did in this because it's like they utilised almost all the players and see in this match all the players get playing time and this is a good thing in my opinion because this can also make some young players more excited especially those who are often on the bench.
The first game was pretty good and now they'll get back to preparing for the second tour next week.
I'm not really disturbed about Borussia Dortmund's performance in that friendly game or would I be concerned about their up coming friendly games before the transfer window is ended.
My reason for not being interested is because I know that Dortmund would do well in the German Bundesliga competition come next season no matter how bad things turns out to be. Dortmund must stop seeing a top two finish for over the last decade as a success when there's every opportunity to winning the German Bundesliga title

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July 13, 2023, 11:13:08 PM
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Dortmund didn't have a hard game against this team and they're totally unknown, however, Drtmound and all other teams are in the training phase and they are mostly not ready for the games otherwise they could even win the game with better results. I think the thing Dortmund left do to for this season is to find a better replacement for Bellingham they sold to Real Madrid.
Dortmund is a team that very often sells the best players they have printed and almost every season is like that. I think it will not be difficult for Dortmund to find a replacement for Bellingham which they sold to Real Madrid, because selling the best players is like a business for Dortmund so I will never be surprised when in the future Dortmund sells the best players again after they have trained them with pretty good. Likewise with Bellingham which they have sold to Real Madrid.
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July 13, 2023, 11:50:53 PM
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Dortmund is a team that very often sells the best players they have printed and almost every season is like that. I think it will not be difficult for Dortmund to find a replacement for Bellingham which they sold to Real Madrid, because selling the best players is like a business for Dortmund so I will never be surprised when in the future Dortmund sells the best players again after they have trained them with pretty good. Likewise with Bellingham which they have sold to Real Madrid.
Actually, I think it was Bellingham's absence in the last round match that prevented Borussia Dortmund from winning the coveted title and interrupting the hegemony of Bayern Munich. Therefore, I would choose words with great care that it would not be difficult for Borussia to find a replacement for Bellingham. Moreover, now Bellingham cannot even theoretically go out on the football field and help Dortmund in the new season.
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July 14, 2023, 01:40:59 AM
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Dortmund is a team that very often sells the best players they have printed and almost every season is like that. I think it will not be difficult for Dortmund to find a replacement for Bellingham which they sold to Real Madrid, because selling the best players is like a business for Dortmund so I will never be surprised when in the future Dortmund sells the best players again after they have trained them with pretty good. Likewise with Bellingham which they have sold to Real Madrid.
It is Dortmund tradition and it is their strategy which was seriously applied after their club got a crisis and they carried about 100 million euros of debt in 2005. It is because they overpaid for player transfers and salary as well as some other costs after they won Champions League in 1996 - 1997 season.

After luckily solved that crisis, Dortmund changed their strategy and focus more on finding youth players around the world, give them chances to grow up and sell them to help the club finance. They also don't agree to increase salary of their star players too much because they do know how it will be harmful for the club finance in long term.

They had a Champions League runner up in 2012 - 2013 season but about 10 years later, they did not fall into another financial crisis that proves their strategy works fine.

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July 14, 2023, 04:04:52 AM
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Actually, I think it was Bellingham's absence in the last round match that prevented Borussia Dortmund from winning the coveted title and interrupting the hegemony of Bayern Munich. Therefore, I would choose words with great care that it would not be difficult for Borussia to find a replacement for Bellingham. Moreover, now Bellingham cannot even theoretically go out on the football field and help Dortmund in the new season.
Less chemistry during the last match of last season. Dortmund was missing golden opportunity to win bundesliga. That's very disappointed result for all of dortmund fans. Bayern was lucky enough to be helped by mainz at the last match.
I know how hurt it was for all of dortmund fans.

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July 14, 2023, 04:12:54 AM
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If Sadio Mane will really leave Bayern Munich again after only 1 year, then i think this was definitely one of the most disappointing transfers of Bayern Munich in the last decade. Mane was an absolute world class player at Liverpool and when the first rumors started to appear last year that Mane might come to Bayern Munich i think many did not even believe it at the beginning. Then he really came and the expectations where extremely high obviously. Sadly it did not work out at all, at least not in the last part of the season. At the beginning everything was ok i would say.
If Bayern will sell Mane then they can save his very high salary of 22 Million € per year. This is even more important than the transfer fee they will get for him.
The big money for Mane can be easily paid by a club in Saudi Arabia, there are several clubs that are interested. When I read that Mane received 20 million euros per year, it was a big mistake. They should let him go for any price. I remember a team picture from the Oktoberfest where Mane was the only one of all the players not holding a glass of beer in his hand... over 35 people.
His injury with performance in only season here at Bayern Munich is considering the club to sell him with as we all know right now Saudi Pro League is having good offers for him, but he is already rejected as Al-Ahli wants to re-unit him with former teammate Roberto Firmino, but it's not going to happen because he still wants to play here in Europe and most chances he will have good deal from Manchester Untied even right now nothing is official but in case of Harry Kane arrival here he has to pack-up and go through for another season in English Premier League.

Even he still deserves chance here but as reports are coming Bayern Munich needs fund for the Harry Kane, and they are already reduce the price of his transfer as well from £20 million to £17 million which is surely giving impression they want to offload him with last year they bring him to the price of £35 million from the Liverpool.

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July 14, 2023, 08:02:12 AM
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So far we have seen two free transfers by Bayern Munich side which has been their only activity. Konrad Laimer and Raphaël Guerreiro have joined the team in this way. But I must say that these are both really good additions to the team to have a bigger squad depth. But this won't be the only action they take of course.

A right-back and of course a centre-forward seem to be urgent for them to transfer. They have been interested in Kyle Walker for right-back position for a while and they are waiting on the player's decision. He still has one more year left on his contract but we will see. For striker transfer you already know that their priority is Kane. Apart from that Julian Alvarez is also rumoured.

I think the first priority for Bayern Munich is not hiring a good forward and goalkeeper to have alternative for Neuer because he is getting old, as forward they are waiting for Tottenham and Harry Kane because they know the first and best forward they can target is is currently Kane however I think Bayern Munich got some alternative options for Kane.

Sommer is also likely to join Inter this summer as they are about to lose Onana to Manchester United. Neuer got injured for a long time in the previous season. I'm curious about how good he will return to the game. He is 37 years old now yeah but he is still Neuer. Bayern Munich might not want to replace him now before seeing his performance next season.

However they can find a replacement for Sommer on one hand as he is likely to leave as I said. They had better find a player who doesn't care about being Neuer's substitute much. Because Sommer doesn't want this now.

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July 14, 2023, 08:38:31 AM
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Sommer is also likely to join Inter this summer as they are about to lose Onana to Manchester United. Neuer got injured for a long time in the previous season. I'm curious about how good he will return to the game. He is 37 years old now yeah but he is still Neuer. Bayern Munich might not want to replace him now before seeing his performance next season.

However they can find a replacement for Sommer on one hand as he is likely to leave as I said. They had better find a player who doesn't care about being Neuer's substitute much. Because Sommer doesn't want this now.
It depends if Manuel Neuer will be getting to his full fitness back without any issue.
I saw a report yesterday from skysport about the situation around Neuer and the Goalkeepers at Bayern Munich.
And they say that he is not already ready for games and it will be taking more time for Manuel Neuer to getting back.
But we will see who the first Keeper is when the season starts.

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July 14, 2023, 08:49:41 AM
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Onana's transfer to Manchester United seems to be done at any time because he is really close and on the other hand they lost their first goalkeeper De Gea which can show us Onana's transfer is nearly done. Also, Bayern Munich is not going to have a long-term plan with Neuer because of his age, also he is still getting recovered and not ready for the games.
Manuel Neuer seems to be at the end of his career at Bayern Munich considering he only has one season contract still valid. Manuel Neuer is 37 years old but he can still play at a very high level, but due to his physical condition and frequent injuries it is clear that Bayern Munich needs to think about his future.

Yann Sommer and Sven Ulreich are also 33 and 34 years old, so of course Bayern Munich really have to think about a suitable replacement for them. Meanwhile, Bayern Munich has 2 young goalkeepers in Alexander Nubel and Johannes Schenk, but both of them have not received much trust from the coach to appear with the first team.
Without any doubt Manuel Neuer is still their best goalkeeper but with his current injury status things are looking not good because most chances he will join after few rounds of next season, and they have already done their homework for the alternative which is quite useful even new goalkeeper is also 34, but he will do good job for them in coming season, and they also have few other options even China goalkeeper is quite young but after 3 or 4 years he could be also good and can replace as first choice goalkeeper for them.

Now most chances they will give chance to Yann Sommer before having Manuel Neuer as their first choice with he is now having last season at the club if his injury and performance allow him for the better than hopefully things could be gone positive for him.

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July 14, 2023, 08:50:17 AM
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Actually, I think it was Bellingham's absence in the last round match that prevented Borussia Dortmund from winning the coveted title and interrupting the hegemony of Bayern Munich. Therefore, I would choose words with great care that it would not be difficult for Borussia to find a replacement for Bellingham. Moreover, now Bellingham cannot even theoretically go out on the football field and help Dortmund in the new season.
Less chemistry during the last match of last season. Dortmund was missing golden opportunity to win bundesliga. That's very disappointed result for all of dortmund fans. Bayern was lucky enough to be helped by mainz at the last match.
I know how hurt it was for all of dortmund fans.

Why are we, months after the last game, still talk about this? The season is over, the new one is just around the corner.

Everybody knows what happened, so enough writing the same posts just to collect signature campaign posts please.

Also, it is NOT Dortmund's strategy to sell players. With every strong player that left they tried to keep him for at least 1 more year. They offered new deals with higher payment to Haaland, Bellingham, Sancho, and so on, so where would that make sense if they just want money. Dortmund wants success, they want to win titles.

If players want to move on for a big pay day and to a big name in European football you can't stop them. They have the power when their contract is expiring, nothing Dortmund can do.

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July 14, 2023, 09:04:35 AM
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Also, it is NOT Dortmund's strategy to sell players. With every strong player that left they tried to keep him for at least 1 more year. They offered new deals with higher payment to Haaland, Bellingham, Sancho, and so on, so where would that make sense if they just want money. Dortmund wants success, they want to win titles.

If players want to move on for a big pay day and to a big name in European football you can't stop them. They have the power when their contract is expiring, nothing Dortmund can do.


Actually it is Dortmund's vision exactly. They don't prioritize becoming the champions in the Bundesliga. Instead they have a certain main vision that they have been maintaining for years. It is to bring young and talented players to the team for a cheap price and increase the speed of their development to make them young star players. After that they are okay to sell them for a really high amount of profit. These kind of players are using Dortmund as a steppingstone to join bigger teams.

Some of them push them to put a release clause on their contract as well though like Haaland did. This isn't good for Dortmund as they can sell them for higher amounts normally but there is nothing to do about it.
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