Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

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One of Dortmund most profitable deals in recent years Bellingham official move to Real Madrid before the end of the month represents a significant milestone for the team. Their strategic acumen and excellent decision making are demonstrated by their success. Even though they might not be able to win the Bundesliga this year Dortmund tactical decision to play Bellingham ensures that they can still accomplish their primary goal. The club astute business acumen is demonstrated by their ability to make substantial profits from the sale of young gifted players like Bellingham. Even though it was disappointing to lose the championship to Bayern Munich in what on paper should have been an easy match the traumatic finale to the season will live in memory. Terzic remarkable performance during the season should comfort fans and the board though as Dortmund came perilously close to winning the desired title.

Bellingham's expected switch to Real Madrid underlines Dortmund's effective plan and good decisions. Even if they don't clinch this year's Bundesliga, using Bellingham and prioritizing their goals was shrewd. The club's smart dealings have made big profits from selling stars like Bellingham. The next step is to get a suitable replacement or boost other parts of the team. Dortmund's adaptability was clear post Haaland when they got more points. I believe, improving their overall score next season could bring them the long-awaited trophy.

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[Leviathan.007]

Borussia Dortmund is known to be selling their best players in almost all the summer transfer windows and that is why Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the German Bundesliga for more seasons to come.
Jadon Sancho was sold last two summer before Erling Haaland was sold to Manchester City last summer and now Jude Bellingham has left for Real Madrid. I think the club's transfer strategy isn't concerned by the success of the team rather they're more concerned by how much they make as gains when they sell these players. They might also be lucky raise another great player before the end of next season and still sell him at the end of the season

If they were able to retain the good players, Bayern could not have been dominating the league for years. It takes a consistent team to have great success, it's only financially good to sell a player who can make money without using it to another team.
On the one hand, they are doing something quite logical, they always sell their players when they are at their most valuable and make a lot of money. But their chances of becoming champions are dwindling

One thing I really want to see is that it is not easy for Dortmund to let go of its key players, because if Dortmund dares to make the choice to keep their key players by increasing their salaries then of course Dortmund will be able to win a trophy. Because even though Dortmund always sell their key players, but the reality is that Dortmund can still compete well in the Bundesliga title race. Therefore, if only one season Dortmund can retain all its key players, then of course Dortmund will be able to stop Bayern Munich's successive title success.

A team got some ways to make money and even teams like Dortmund earn money by selling talents they have like Bellingham and previously with Haaland they lose many great talents and because of that they are not in a situation to compare them with Bayern Munich but that's how they can earn money and that's their business for years.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Leipzig was the team that beat Bayern to take it to last game, if it wasn't for that then Dortmund wouldn't even have a chance to win the title, Bayern would have simply be the champion anyway, Leipzig won and Dortmund got a small hope at least.

If a team is good enough to take out Bayern from the title leadership, then they are good enough to beat Frankfurt as well. I am fully expecting them to be winning the title and that should be a lot better, I know for a fact that it is not going to be easy, but at the very least we are going to end up with something a bit different, and that should be a bit better in the end and I could see it becoming an easy Leipzig win which would not be a good return, but you can do like 2.5+ over and it could be much better.

I say that the one who was going to win the Bundesliga here was Bayern, there is no other way, Dortmund does have a very competitive team and they can almost take the Bundesliga away from Bayern, so things are not bad, only experience is here It is the one that came to the surface and it is well seen , for my part I see that what Bayern did is excellent, they made their caste known, despite the fact that they had so many technical and strategic problems, they were removed from the UCL , when they did not have everything to win , well , things didn't work out for him , but at least they Stayed with the Bundesliga.

Liverpool are set to do battle with Bayern Munich in the race to sign Wolfsburg defender Micky van de Ven.

The Netherlands U21 star has done well in the Bundesliga, leading to suggestions that Liverpool may sign him. But as usually happens when players impress in the German top-fight, Bayern are also said to be hot on his trail.

Source: https://www.rousingthekop.com/2023/06/17/bayern-have-already-told-26m-player-they-want-to-sign-him-liverpool-could-try-and-stop-them-journalist/

[Docnaster]

Borussia Dortmund is known to be selling their best players in almost all the summer transfer windows and that is why Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the German Bundesliga for more seasons to come.
Jadon Sancho was sold last two summer before Erling Haaland was sold to Manchester City last summer and now Jude Bellingham has left for Real Madrid. I think the club's transfer strategy isn't concerned by the success of the team rather they're more concerned by how much they make as gains when they sell these players. They might also be lucky raise another great player before the end of next season and still sell him at the end of the season

If they were able to retain the good players, Bayern could not have been dominating the league for years. It takes a consistent team to have great success, it's only financially good to sell a player who can make money without using it to another team.
On the one hand, they are doing something quite logical, they always sell their players when they are at their most valuable and make a lot of money. But their chances of becoming champions are dwindling

One thing I really want to see is that it is not easy for Dortmund to let go of its key players, because if Dortmund dares to make the choice to keep their key players by increasing their salaries then of course Dortmund will be able to win a trophy. Because even though Dortmund always sell their key players, but the reality is that Dortmund can still compete well in the Bundesliga title race. Therefore, if only one season Dortmund can retain all its key players, then of course Dortmund will be able to stop Bayern Munich's successive title success.

A team got some ways to make money and even teams like Dortmund earn money by selling talents they have like Bellingham and previously with Haaland they lose many great talents and because of that they are not in a situation to compare them with Bayern Munich but that's how they can earn money and that's their business for years.

Bayern Munich undoubtedly are the best club in Germany and they possess the best players in terms of quality and delivering great performances in the country as well.
However I think Borussia Dortmund had a better chance to end Bayern Munich's dominance in the league by winning the title on the last day of the league season but wastefully threw away their best chance to win the Bundesliga in 11 years.

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A team got some ways to make money and even teams like Dortmund earn money by selling talents they have like Bellingham and previously with Haaland they lose many great talents and because of that they are not in a situation to compare them with Bayern Munich but that's how they can earn money and that's their business for years.

Among them are Bellingham, Mahmoud Dahoud and several other players who will leave Dortmund this season, either being sold or leaving on a free transfer. But what's interesting is that Bellingham departure to Real Madrid happened recently and of course Dortmund made a sizable profit on the sale of Bellingham. The player selling business has indeed been carried out by dortmund in every season because it is an easy way for them to get big profits. From this huge advantage Dortmund can buy many other players from other leagues at a low price and that is what they do in producing talented players every season. But with what dortmund is doing, of course, it makes them not too strong in every season because they have to lose several important players in every season.

[KTChampions]

One thing I really want to see is that it is not easy for Dortmund to let go of its key players, because if Dortmund dares to make the choice to keep their key players by increasing their salaries then of course Dortmund will be able to win a trophy. Because even though Dortmund always sell their key players, but the reality is that Dortmund can still compete well in the Bundesliga title race. Therefore, if only one season Dortmund can retain all its key players, then of course Dortmund will be able to stop Bayern Munich's successive title success.

11 years without a title I would call a big failure than a good competition  In general, Dortmund has actually turned into a trophy-free club - they sometimes win the German Cup, but all their significant successes like the Bundesliga title or some kind of Euro Cup are in the past. Sad situation for a top 2 club in Germany. In every other country, the top 2 (and even the top 3) have done significantly better in the last 10 years.

[Velvet78]

Bayern Munich undoubtedly are the best club in Germany and they possess the best players in terms of quality and delivering great performances in the country as well.
However I think Borussia Dortmund had a better chance to end Bayern Munich's dominance in the league by winning the title on the last day of the league season but wastefully threw away their best chance to win the Bundesliga in 11 years.

Yeah this was a really big waste of Dortmund. It was like Bayern Munich handed over the title chance to them so many times during the season. Especially the last time was a huge opportunity for Dortmund. But Terzic couldn't make it to the title after all that title races for a whole season. That start against Mainz was telling us so much thing.

Bayern Munich can win the Bundesliga title even while they are having an inconsistent season. This is just unbelievable. Maybe we watched a thrilling title race to the end but I didn't like the ending at all. If this dominance of Bayern Munich was brought to an end finally then it would have been a really special moment. Maybe this would have even increased the level of attention to the Bundesliga.

[arimamib]

11 years without a title I would call a big failure than a good competition  In general, Dortmund has actually turned into a trophy-free club - they sometimes win the German Cup, but all their significant successes like the Bundesliga title or some kind of Euro Cup are in the past. Sad situation for a top 2 club in Germany. In every other country, the top 2 (and even the top 3) have done significantly better in the last 10 years.

Dortmund management must change their attitude if they want to bring the Bundesliga title in the coming seasons because if they continue to sell star players, it is possible that Dortmund will fast for the title for the next 5 seasons.  10 years is quite a long time but Dortmund have always failed to break Bayern Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga.

In the bundesliga, only bayern munich is the most consistent in defending the bundesliga title because other teams are not able to do much because the depth of their squad is relatively dominated by ordinary players but in the depth of the bayern munich squad they are able to present many quality players.

[snipie]

Dortmund management must change their attitude if they want to bring the Bundesliga title in the coming seasons because if they continue to sell star players, it is possible that Dortmund will fast for the title for the next 5 seasons.  10 years is quite a long time but Dortmund have always failed to break Bayern Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga.

In the bundesliga, only bayern munich is the most consistent in defending the bundesliga title because other teams are not able to do much because the depth of their squad is relatively dominated by ordinary players but in the depth of the bayern munich squad they are able to present many quality players.

Imagine a team getting back from 1 transfer what they spent in the previous one + benefits. That's what Dortmund is doing to sustain their position while getting new players to train and help them getting the title if possible.
Dortmund are one of the hard numbers in Bundesliga, their problem is having a team like Bayern Munich to ruin their fan, otherwise they would be the first team in the ranking although selling their top players.

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I think we should not forget where Borussia Dortmund is coming from. In the late 1990s and the early 2000s they were at the same level as Bayern Munich or maybe even ahead of them a few times. In order to do that they had to make very high debts though which almost led them into bankruptcy afterwards. Then Jürgen Klopp came and the club has risen again and they even made it into the Champions League final back in 2013. Still they are pretty far behind Bayern in terms of financials.

It's more than two decade ago. Lots of things are changing right now. That's why dortmund was using strategy to sell the player after developed it as a way to stabilizing the financial of club. Dortmund is not as rich as bayern. It must also think the expense by the club as well.
Bayern is always raiding dortmund's player which was also making the club to be even weaker when it comes to the new season. This strategy is a very bad strategy since dortmund was the only potential competitor in bundesliga for bayern.
Buying the good players from dortmund = winning the league for bayern. The investors must be going in. Bundesliga will always be like that forever without the hand from investors to build the clubs.
That's why dortmnd has no choice other than trying to use such strategy as a way to keep its financial stable.

I put a lot of respects for dortmund as its hard work to make sure the club will not face financial trouble that will be affecting its players.

[Leviathan.007]

Dortmund management must change their attitude if they want to bring the Bundesliga title in the coming seasons because if they continue to sell star players, it is possible that Dortmund will fast for the title for the next 5 seasons.  10 years is quite a long time but Dortmund have always failed to break Bayern Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga.

In the bundesliga, only bayern munich is the most consistent in defending the bundesliga title because other teams are not able to do much because the depth of their squad is relatively dominated by ordinary players but in the depth of the bayern munich squad they are able to present many quality players.

Imagine a team getting back from 1 transfer what they spent in the previous one + benefits. That's what Dortmund is doing to sustain their position while getting new players to train and help them getting the title if possible.
Dortmund are one of the hard numbers in Bundesliga, their problem is having a team like Bayern Munich to ruin their fan, otherwise they would be the first team in the ranking although selling their top players.

I guess you are wrong because you won't know having money is more important than a better place on the table for the managers.
Obviously, Dortmund prefers to earn more money from transferring players to other teams than using the players to have a better situation. Otherwise, the Dortmund we saw could easily win the Bundesliga title if they didn't sell Haaland before.

[rendravolt]

Borussia Dortmund is known to be selling their best players in almost all the summer transfer windows and that is why Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the German Bundesliga for more seasons to come.
Jadon Sancho was sold last two summer before Erling Haaland was sold to Manchester City last summer and now Jude Bellingham has left for Real Madrid. I think the club's transfer strategy isn't concerned by the success of the team rather they're more concerned by how much they make as gains when they sell these players. They might also be lucky raise another great player before the end of next season and still sell him at the end of the season

If they were able to retain the good players, Bayern could not have been dominating the league for years. It takes a consistent team to have great success, it's only financially good to sell a player who can make money without using it to another team.
On the one hand, they are doing something quite logical, they always sell their players when they are at their most valuable and make a lot of money. But their chances of becoming champions are dwindling

Bayern munchen dominated the bundesliga so easily for so many years because they had no consistent competitors to do so. Dortmund might be able to win the bundesliga occasionally in 1 or 2 seasons if they keep their star players from being sold to other clubs and I agree with your opinion on that. Indeed, we cannot stop the business thinking of the Dortmund owner and maybe we can only criticize him, but it must be admitted that many star players have been born from Dortmund since the Lewandowski era to the most recent Haaland now.

[makishart]

Dortmund management must change their attitude if they want to bring the Bundesliga title in the coming seasons because if they continue to sell star players, it is possible that Dortmund will fast for the title for the next 5 seasons.  10 years is quite a long time but Dortmund have always failed to break Bayern Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga.

Why change dortmund's attitude? There's nothing wrong with it. The only problem is on the DFL itself by preventing the clubs from getting more investment from investors. Dortmund was doing it caused by it's not a rich club. It used the money to sell its player as a way to keep its financial better. There's no way that can be done by dortmund other than it caused by the income from playing in bundesliga was not enough to pay all the expenses.
 DFL was blocking investors from taking a part in the club..

In the bundesliga, only bayern munich is the most consistent in defending the bundesliga title because other teams are not able to do much because the depth of their squad is relatively dominated by ordinary players but in the depth of the bayern munich squad they are able to present many quality players.

It's caused by bayern was the only team that consistently buying good players from its competitor. Destroying dortmund from buying its good player has become the main strategy for bayern to always consistntly winning the trophy for more than 1 decade.
The only problem was in DFL. If DFL will give approve for the investors to put their money and bayern will be rarely winning the trophy again.

[Jody.Drummer]

Borussia Dortmund is known to be selling their best players in almost all the summer transfer windows and that is why Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the German Bundesliga for more seasons to come.
Jadon Sancho was sold last two summer before Erling Haaland was sold to Manchester City last summer and now Jude Bellingham has left for Real Madrid. I think the club's transfer strategy isn't concerned by the success of the team rather they're more concerned by how much they make as gains when they sell these players. They might also be lucky raise another great player before the end of next season and still sell him at the end of the season

If they were able to retain the good players, Bayern could not have been dominating the league for years. It takes a consistent team to have great success, it's only financially good to sell a player who can make money without using it to another team.
On the one hand, they are doing something quite logical, they always sell their players when they are at their most valuable and make a lot of money. But their chances of becoming champions are dwindling

Bayern munchen dominated the bundesliga so easily for so many years because they had no consistent competitors to do so. Dortmund might be able to win the bundesliga occasionally in 1 or 2 seasons if they keep their star players from being sold to other clubs and I agree with your opinion on that. Indeed, we cannot stop the business thinking of the Dortmund owner and maybe we can only criticize him, but it must be admitted that many star players have been born from Dortmund since the Lewandowski era to the most recent Haaland now.

The reality is sometimes not that simple. Being able to compete or not, of course, must be seen from a number of actual conditions, even if the players make a sizable contribution but must pay attention to other conditions.
This season is proof that conditions other than players have an effect because Bayern's conditions this season actually provide something different and are quite tense, especially when competition is held even until the match ends.
But it all comes back the same in the end, saying Dortmund can compete or not at the moment it seems with their conditions, they are only focused on second place and nothing else can really be done when Bayern really get back to their good form.

[X-ray]

I guess you are wrong because you won't know having money is more important than a better place on the table for the managers.
Obviously, Dortmund prefers to earn more money from transferring players to other teams than using the players to have a better situation. Otherwise, the Dortmund we saw could easily win the Bundesliga title if they didn't sell Haaland before.

So, did you say that if dortmund can only rely to the haaland? Haaland was never winning bundesliga with dortmund unlike lewandowski which has been ever winning bundesliga 10 years ago.
No guarantee even if haaland is still playing in dortmund and the club can win bundesliga trophy from bayern. The fact that if bayerns are still keeping its record in the bundesliga to win this league for more than 10 years in a row.
That proves that if there's no club that can prevent bayern to win the league. Dortmund was losing in the previous season due to the weak mentality that owned by its players.

I will not think that halaand will have a good progress like he was in city when decided to stay even longer in the dortmund.
Football is a game for eleven players. Haaland has been playing in dortmund for several years but no achievement being achieved by him.

[Dzwaafu11]

11 years without a title I would call a big failure than a good competition  In general, Dortmund has actually turned into a trophy-free club - they sometimes win the German Cup, but all their significant successes like the Bundesliga title or some kind of Euro Cup are in the past. Sad situation for a top 2 club in Germany. In every other country, the top 2 (and even the top 3) have done significantly better in the last 10 years.

Dortmund management must change their attitude if they want to bring the Bundesliga title in the coming seasons because if they continue to sell star players, it is possible that Dortmund will fast for the title for the next 5 seasons.  10 years is quite a long time but Dortmund have always failed to break Bayern Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga.

In the bundesliga, only bayern munich is the most consistent in defending the bundesliga title because other teams are not able to do much because the depth of their squad is relatively dominated by ordinary players but in the depth of the bayern munich squad they are able to present many quality players.

I also think Dortmund needs more effort to get the next season's trophy because they usually sell their good players. I don't know why the money or the trophies? Dortmund have been waiting for so long for dortmund to get these trophies, but I think they always misuse them, and that is why Bayern Munich always challenges them when it comes to these competitions because bayern always utilize their star players in order to get these titles. I don't know if Dortmund management is not seeing how it goes to them, but they really need to change how they are selling their star players.

However, if Dortmund continues this way, I believe Bayern Munich will be leading all the time, and Dortmund will keep waiting until they change or get new players, since they have already sold them out.

[bestcoins1]

I guess you are wrong because you won't know having money is more important than a better place on the table for the managers.
Obviously, Dortmund prefers to earn more money from transferring players to other teams than using the players to have a better situation. Otherwise, the Dortmund we saw could easily win the Bundesliga title if they didn't sell Haaland before.

And even though there is no Haaland, Dortmund can still compete with the top big teams in the Bundesliga like Bayern Munich, which means that Dortmund really have the ability to train their players to be better and they almost won the Bundesliga title. It's just that Dortmund had a draw in their last match so they had to continue to die to become champions, but for next season I'm sure Dortmund will again make better competition from the start of the season to the end of the season.

[asriloni]

I also think Dortmund needs more effort to get the next season's trophy because they usually sell their good players. I don't know why the money or the trophies? Dortmund have been waiting for so long for dortmund to get these trophies, but I think they always misuse them, and that is why Bayern Munich always challenges them when it comes to these competitions because bayern always utilize their star players in order to get these titles. I don't know if Dortmund management is not seeing how it goes to them, but they really need to change how they are selling their star players.

The competition from bayern and dortmund have been also happening in the transfer market too. Just like the last match of the previous season. That proves that if dortmund lack of winning mentality. It's only 1 step ahead to get victory over dortmund in the bundesliga but dortmund was not able making it happen. Dortmund was aware of that, but the problem is you can't always be sure if the players will always show the best performance. The last match against mainz has been showing to us how bad dortmnud at that match as mainz was leading 2-0 before dortmund was making it to be draw.

However, if Dortmund continues this way, I believe Bayern Munich will be leading all the time, and Dortmund will keep waiting until they change or get new players, since they have already sold them out.

I hope the domination will end for bayern. It looks very boring to see bayern to win 11 bundesliga titles in a row without any losses. The only problem if DFL was also preventing the clubs other than dortmund and bayern from growing by cancelling a lot of investments that have been offered by investors.

[dzungmobile]

And even though there is no Haaland, Dortmund can still compete with the top big teams in the Bundesliga like Bayern Munich, which means that Dortmund really have the ability to train their players to be better and they almost won the Bundesliga title. It's just that Dortmund had a draw in their last match so they had to continue to die to become champions, but for next season I'm sure Dortmund will again make better competition from the start of the season to the end of the season.

Without Haaland they were able to nearly get the trophy and only lost it in the last match but in this summer, they just sold Bellingham to Real Madrid. This transfer is a second highest transfer in history of Dortmund only after the transfer of Dembele to Barcelona years ago.

Dortmund has that transfer strategy to sell their star players at highest price when they can. They also want to maintain their salary ceiling and don't want to break it for their star players anytime they have to convince their star players to prolong or sign new contracts. In finance, it is a very smart and safe strategy but in sports, it did not help them to win titles. With this strategy, they will not win Bundesliga in many more seasons.

This shows why Dortmund could not beat Bayern Munich in the last 11 years. They sold most of their best players to Bayern Munich and we see the reasons. Selling best players already reduce their squad power but selling those players directly to their direct competitor is worse. They became weaker and their competitor became stronger, no chance to win Bundesliga.

[rahmad2nd]

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If they were able to retain the good players, Bayern could not have been dominating the league for years. It takes a consistent team to have great success, it's only financially good to sell a player who can make money without using it to another team.
On the one hand, they are doing something quite logical, they always sell their players when they are at their most valuable and make a lot of money. But their chances of becoming champions are dwindling

Bayern munchen dominated the bundesliga so easily for so many years because they had no consistent competitors to do so. Dortmund might be able to win the bundesliga occasionally in 1 or 2 seasons if they keep their star players from being sold to other clubs and I agree with your opinion on that. Indeed, we cannot stop the business thinking of the Dortmund owner and maybe we can only criticize him, but it must be admitted that many star players have been born from Dortmund since the Lewandowski era to the most recent Haaland now.

That's why, if the Bundesliga wants to be competitive like other league competitions. they should change the system 50+1. thus, there will be more clubs getting cash injections than investors and sponsors. also, it is very possible that the Bundesliga will no longer be dominated by Bayern Munich. Dortmund have done a very good job, staying in the top four of this competition and still exist in the Champions League. besides that, they get profits from the sale of their players.

They did nothing wrong, because to survive and compete in this league they have to maneuver in their business. the unique thing is that almost every season Dortmund always creates young talents, then sells them at fantastic prices. but they can still compete, and remain a top club in the Bundesliga. So, what do you think so that this competition can be more competitive like other leagues. I mean, at least the competition hasn't been dominated by just one club in the last decade.